Boiled down... Kobe: 5 (5/7). Lebron: 2 (2/5).

[Deuce Bigalow]

Just so were clear. Let us proceed.

[steve franchise]

OP makes a good point.

Duncan: 5 (5/6)

Let us proceed.

[Deuce Bigalow]

OP makes a good point.

Duncan: 5 (5/6)

Let us proceed.
I'll take it. We shall proceed.

[bigkingsfan]

Pippen 6/6

[Andrei89]

Pippen 6/6

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

MJ 6/6
FFY. Proceed.

[truhooper]

Lebron: 2 finals mvps outta 2 :bowdown: :pimp:
Kobe: 2 finals mvps outta 5 :biggums: :facepalm

[Artillery]

Boiled down:

http://i.imgur.com/BckvvXS.jpg

[D-Rose]

These arguments are so narrow mined and frankly stupid. It's as if everyone assumes that all superstar players have the same supporting cast, coaches, situations, etc in their career.

Gotta believe these discussions are for the low IQ/part time fair-weather fans.

[WeGetRing2012]

Boiled down:

http://i.imgur.com/BckvvXS.jpg

Peep Lebron's elbow. His stans are pathetic :facepalm

[dubeta]

Kobe is actually 2 out of 7 (FMVP's)

[lilteapot]

These arguments are so narrow mined and frankly stupid. It's as if everyone assumes that all superstar players have the same supporting cast, coaches, situations, etc in their career.

Gotta believe these discussions are for the low IQ/part time fair-weather fans.
Pretty much. People who don't watch basketball or know anything about the game are restricted to only discussing legacies.

[WeGetRing2012]

These arguments are so narrow mined and frankly stupid. It's as if everyone assumes that all superstar players have the same supporting cast, coaches, situations, etc in their career.

Gotta believe these discussions are for the low IQ/part time fair-weather fans.

We'll Lebron did handpick his teammates, city, coaching staff, and team to play for so this is a pretty valid discussion.

If anything that argument only works for Kobe because he was stuck in LA from 04-07 when we weren't any good. Knowing Lebron he would've left.

[mehyaM24]

5/7 = 3 carried by shaq + 2 by gasol

2 carried by gasol people say? absolutely. in the 2009 and 2010 playoffs, combined, pau gasol had more win shares and a better offensive rating than kobe.

i know i've already made a topic on this...but has kobe ever really been the best player in the league? his so called "sidekick" outplayed him BOTH years the lakers were contenders (post shaq)

lol

[lilteapot]

The "carried by" argument only holds any weight if you were a benchwarmer that contributed absolutely nothing. So it means nothing when it comes to Kobe.

[1~Gibson~1]

Kobe is at the end of his career. LeBron is in the middle. Who's to say he doesnt win more? So you point is......?

[Kblaze8855]

These arguments are so narrow mined and frankly stupid

Its not even this particular argument. You could say that about perhaps every topic this guy ever made.

We really are talking about one of the worst posters of all time.

I believe im done ignoring these endless idiotic topics.

Dude....

Every time I see your name with a topic created its some simplistic bullshit saying nothing....including a long list of people you know someone is gonna bite on....

You take something you pull out of your ass....perhaps number of titles....or titles won in ___ years....or PPG in ____...


And your defense of your point often comes down to "Nope...*repost dumb list that makes no point*".

Might even throw in an emoticon to really up the ante on uslessness.

Some even have the exact same title as this one. Example:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328984



Russell: 11
Jordan: 6
Kareem: 6
Mikan: 5
Magic: 5
Kobe: 5
Shaq: 4
Duncan: 4
Bird: 3
Lebron: 2
Hakeem: 2
Wilt: 2

All these players have won/would have won an MVP and FMVP if the award existed and made multiple All-NBA first teams for you guys who want to bring in "Horry: 7".

I wanted to make this thread to end the Wilt debates. Let us proceed.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343167

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343212

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321493

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312451

The list of totally useless "Every single person here had this information already" or "Random number designed to mislead" topics you will make just to start a dumb argument you either cant or wont really back up is crazy.

Ive found like 9 more topics of yours that are almost exact word for word repeats of others.

You may have the worst ratio of useful content to topics made in the history of ISH.

And you come in with a "Kobe 5...Lebron 2" topic?

Why the **** would you possibly make this topic? The 60 other topics its discussed in not enough? You need to see your name next to some bullsht? Its not enough that we already have the bullshit? It needs to be your personal brand of it?

You are approaching Euroleague on the "No topic you make needs to exist" list.

Put a little thought into your topics or stop making them.

By all rights I should have been deleting them long ago. Half of them are repeats from a week earlier slightly reworded anyway.....

[D-Rose]

Thank you, KBlaze! :bowdown:

[TheMarkMadsen]

We get a million Kobe hating threads per day...

God forbid anybody trolls back..

Don't see Kblaze in any alkratozile or other threads which are literally copy and pasted word for word into multiple "new" threads per week.

[mehyaM24]

We get a million Kobe hating threads per day...

God forbid anybody trolls back..

Don't see Kblaze in any alkratozile or other threads which are literally copy and pasted word for word into multiple "new" threads per week.

why would you admit to trolling?

idiot

[Kblaze8855]

We let almost everything go.

Of the last 400 topics....only 3 were deleted. 40 topics a page....3 deletes in the first 10 pages.

This is the OP in those 3 topics:





Why LeBron Fans Have It Better Than MJ Fans.

You say MJ was WWAAYYYYY better than LeBron. Ok. Let's assume you're right. Still, being a LeBron is better. Why?

LeBron fans live in the present. Jordan fans are stuck 20 years in the past.


It can't be very fun. While we're enjoying what is happening right now, you guys are you're miserable now and holding onto 20 year old nostalgia.



MJ > LeBron. You got it. I'll enjoy next season. You won't.



Lebron's stats of greatness with applied basketball analytics and mathematics:


.















































2/5



2/5

doe


Its not that you cant hate. Just....hate with some ****ing sense.

Make a point.

[Legends66NBA7]

Kblaze, whenever you have time, you might as well lock the threads if you see repetitive topics that don't go anywhere outside of the sake of baiting and arguing to nothing.

I'm guilty myself for responding way too many times in one of those links you pulled out.

[BoutPractice]

I wonder how many times "2/5" would come up if we were to search ISH posts made in the past week. I suspect, about three hundred thousand too many.

[MP.Trey]

Sam Jones 10/11

[NumberSix]

2/7 Fmvp

[TheMarkMadsen]

There is a thread on the front page hating on Kobe for not being able to produce in the playoffs @ 36 years old

Kobe is 35..

Is that the type of topic "making ****ing sense" which you're lookin for?

[Kblaze8855]

I dont care if you are right or not. I care that you attempt to explain yourself. I care about effort. Not just a one liner to start an argument. Which is why:

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343582

Is closed.

Its pretty simple.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I dont care if you are right or not. I care that you attempt to explain yourself. I care about effort. Not just a one liner to start an argument. Which is why:

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343582

Is closed.

Its pretty simple.

So I can make a thread about Jordan missing the playoffs last year & as long as I pump out enough paragraphs with mindless drivel on how something that was physically impossible not happening is a knock against a player it can stay?

A stupid topic is a stupid topic

A thread about Kobe not making the playoffs last year.. Like really..

[Deuce Bigalow]

Its not even this particular argument. You could say that about perhaps every topic this guy ever made.

We really are talking about one of the worst posters of all time.

I believe im done ignoring these endless idiotic topics.

Dude....

Every time I see your name with a topic created its some simplistic bullshit saying nothing....including a long list of people you know someone is gonna bite on....

You take something you pull out of your ass....perhaps number of titles....or titles won in ___ years....or PPG in ____...


And your defense of your point often comes down to "Nope...*repost dumb list that makes no point*".

Might even throw in an emoticon to really up the ante on uslessness.

Some even have the exact same title as this one. Example:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328984




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343167

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343212

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321493

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312451

The list of totally useless "Every single person here had this information already" or "Random number designed to mislead" topics you will make just to start a dumb argument you either cant or wont really back up is crazy.

Ive found like 9 more topics of yours that are almost exact word for word repeats of others.

You may have the worst ratio of useful content to topics made in the history of ISH.

And you come in with a "Kobe 5...Lebron 2" topic?

Why the **** would you possibly make this topic? The 60 other topics its discussed in not enough? You need to see your name next to some bullsht? Its not enough that we already have the bullshit? It needs to be your personal brand of it?

You are approaching Euroleague on the "No topic you make needs to exist" list.

Put a little thought into your topics or stop making them.

By all rights I should have been deleting them long ago. Half of them are repeats from a week earlier slightly reworded anyway.....
Of all-time Kblaze..in the history of ISH? I made it :D

[dc_chilling]

Just so were clear. Let us proceed.

Boiled down:

Kobe has played 18 seasons. Two finals MVPs, 1 MVP.

Lebron has played 11 seasons. Two finals MVPs, 4 MVPs.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Boiled down:

Kobe has played 18 seasons. Two finals MVPs, 1 MVP.

Lebron has played 11 seasons. Two finals MVPs, 4 MVPs.

So Lebrons on pace to play 22 seasons and still not have as many rings as Kobe?

[aj1987]

OP, you idiot. You haven't boiled it down properly.

FMVP's:
Kobe 2-7
LeBron 2-5

MVP:
Kobe 1-18
LeBron 4-11

First Round Exits:
Kobe - 2
LeBron - 0

[BlackVVaves]

Its not even this particular argument. You could say that about perhaps every topic this guy ever made.

We really are talking about one of the worst posters of all time.

I believe im done ignoring these endless idiotic topics.

Dude....

Every time I see your name with a topic created its some simplistic bullshit saying nothing....including a long list of people you know someone is gonna bite on....

You take something you pull out of your ass....perhaps number of titles....or titles won in ___ years....or PPG in ____...


And your defense of your point often comes down to "Nope...*repost dumb list that makes no point*".

Might even throw in an emoticon to really up the ante on uslessness.

Some even have the exact same title as this one. Example:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328984




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343167

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343212

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321493

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312451

The list of totally useless "Every single person here had this information already" or "Random number designed to mislead" topics you will make just to start a dumb argument you either cant or wont really back up is crazy.

Ive found like 9 more topics of yours that are almost exact word for word repeats of others.

You may have the worst ratio of useful content to topics made in the history of ISH.

And you come in with a "Kobe 5...Lebron 2" topic?

Why the **** would you possibly make this topic? The 60 other topics its discussed in not enough? You need to see your name next to some bullsht? Its not enough that we already have the bullshit? It needs to be your personal brand of it?

You are approaching Euroleague on the "No topic you make needs to exist" list.

Put a little thought into your topics or stop making them.

By all rights I should have been deleting them long ago. Half of them are repeats from a week earlier slightly reworded anyway.....

http://i.imgur.com/5gPbxQE.gif

[Andrei89]

OP, you idiot. You haven't boiled it down properly.

FMVP's:
Kobe 2-7
LeBron 2-5

MVP:
Kobe 1-18
LeBron 4-11

First Round Exits:
Kobe - 2
LeBron - 0


:applause: :applause: :applause:

[BigBoss]

I approve of this message

[SwayDizzle]

Kobe is on track to being a top 5 GOAT. Dat longevity

[zoom17]

Its not even this particular argument. You could say that about perhaps every topic this guy ever made.

We really are talking about one of the worst posters of all time.

I believe im done ignoring these endless idiotic topics.

Dude....

Every time I see your name with a topic created its some simplistic bullshit saying nothing....including a long list of people you know someone is gonna bite on....

You take something you pull out of your ass....perhaps number of titles....or titles won in ___ years....or PPG in ____...


And your defense of your point often comes down to "Nope...*repost dumb list that makes no point*".

Might even throw in an emoticon to really up the ante on uslessness.

Some even have the exact same title as this one. Example:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328984




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343167

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343212

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321493

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312451

The list of totally useless "Every single person here had this information already" or "Random number designed to mislead" topics you will make just to start a dumb argument you either cant or wont really back up is crazy.

Ive found like 9 more topics of yours that are almost exact word for word repeats of others.

You may have the worst ratio of useful content to topics made in the history of ISH.

And you come in with a "Kobe 5...Lebron 2" topic?

Why the **** would you possibly make this topic? The 60 other topics its discussed in not enough? You need to see your name next to some bullsht? Its not enough that we already have the bullshit? It needs to be your personal brand of it?

You are approaching Euroleague on the "No topic you make needs to exist" list.

Put a little thought into your topics or stop making them.

By all rights I should have been deleting them long ago. Half of them are repeats from a week earlier slightly reworded anyway.....

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Kevin-Garnett-Reaction-at-2013-Dunk-Contest.gif

[knicksman]

Boiled down:

Kobe has played 18 seasons. Two finals MVPs, 1 MVP.

Lebron has played 11 seasons. Two finals MVPs, 4 MVPs.

bro your IQ is getting smaller everytime you post:lol

[Ne 1]

First Round Exits:
Kobe - 2
LeBron - 0
2006/2007 Suns >>>>>>>>>>>>2006 Wizards, 2007 Wizards, 2008 Wizards, 2009 Hawks, 2010 Bulls, 2011 Sixers, 2012 Knicks, 2013 Bucks, 2014 Bobcats. 0 first round playoff exists is no surprise in the JV league.

[ArbitraryWater]

These arguments are so narrow mined and frankly stupid. It's as if everyone assumes that all superstar players have the same supporting cast, coaches, situations, etc in their career.

Gotta believe these discussions are for the low IQ/part time fair-weather fans.

Precisely.

People who lack the understanding or are too bored to actually discuss on a level-headed basis will resort to "2/5" and stuff like that...

Love has the "Never made the playoffs" stigma.
CP3 has "Never out of the 2nd round."
LeBron "Isn't Jordan."

ISH hates to appreciate, and frankly, most of the Kobe crowd is responsible for all the downplaying of some great basketball players we are fortunate enough to see. It's sad.

[aj1987]

2006/2007 Suns >>>>>>>>>>>>2006 Wizards, 2007 Wizards, 2008 Wizards, 2009 Hawks, 2010 Bulls, 2011 Sixers, 2012 Knicks, 2013 Bucks, 2014 Bobcats. 0 first round playoff exists is no surprise in the JV league.
Are we seriously talking about the same "what the **** is defense" '06 and '07 Suns? LeBron would've ripped them a new one.

[Kidbasketball20]

Peep Lebron's elbow. His stans are pathetic :facepalm


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

LeBron stans sooo pathetic

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Are we seriously talking about the same "what the **** is defense" '06 and '07 Suns? LeBron would've ripped them a new one.

If you mean fart nervously, yes.

[The-Legend-24]

We get a million Kobe hating threads per day...

God forbid anybody trolls back..

Don't see Kblaze in any alkratozile or other threads which are literally copy and pasted word for word into multiple "new" threads per week.
Kblaze and Jeff are pro Bran. Jeff banned me for a week for saying 2/5. :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

Kblaze and Jeff are pro Bran. Jeff banned me for a week for saying 2/5. :oldlol:

It's called being normal and objective..

[aj1987]

If you mean fart nervously, yes.
If you were trying to be funny, you failed miserably. Time to post on your alts to make you post seem "funny".

[NBAplayoffs2001]

If you were trying to be funny, you failed miserably. Time to post on your alts to make you post seem "funny".

Not here to humor you. Just myself.


:cheers: cheers to myself.

[Legends66NBA7]

So I can make a thread about Jordan missing the playoffs last year & as long as I pump out enough paragraphs with mindless drivel on how something that was physically impossible not happening is a knock against a player it can stay?

A stupid topic is a stupid topic

A thread about Kobe not making the playoffs last year.. Like really..

It's almost like you can't be anymore dense.

[atljonesbro]

Fmvp% >>>>

2/5 >>>> 2/7

[ArbitraryWater]

It's almost like you can't be anymore dense.

lmfaooo I know right

[aj1987]

It's almost like you can't be anymore dense.
You talking about TheMarkMadsen. One of the dumbest posters on this board.

[Ne 1]

Are we seriously talking about the same "what the **** is defense" '06 and '07 Suns? LeBron would've ripped them a new one.
Ironically, if it weren't for the leagues BS suspensions in '07, the Suns would have sent LeBron home fishing in the Finals. Those teams he faced in the first round don't even make the playoffs in the West, compared to the Suns who won 61 games. You talk about defense yet the 2007 Suns were ranked 13th in defense compared to the first round Wizard who were ranked 28th and the Suns actually blew out Bron's Cavs twice that year.

[TheMarkMadsen]

It's almost like you can't be anymore dense.

He's upset enough about trolling to hijack this thread.

He used this thread as an example of bad threads

There is a thread on the front page about Kobe not making the playoffs this year

Says nothing about that.

Hypocritical mutch?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Ironically, if it weren't for the leagues BS suspensions in '07, the Suns would have sent LeBron home fishing in the Finals. Those teams he faced in the first round don't even make the playoffs in the West, compared to the Suns who won 61 games. You talk about defense yet the 2007 Suns were ranked 13th in defense compared to the first round Wizard who were ranked 28th and the Suns actually blew out Bron's Cavs twice that year.

Ne 1 spitting knowledge on clueless NBA fans :rockon:

[nathanjizzle]

Peep Lebron's elbow. His stans are pathetic :facepalm

deception is the name of the game for lebroners

[aj1987]

Ironically, if it weren't for the leagues BS suspensions in '07, the Suns would have sent LeBron home fishing in the Finals. Those teams he faced in the first round don't even make the playoffs in the West, compared to the Suns who won 61 games. You talk about defense yet the 2007 Suns were ranked 13th in defense compared to the first round Wizard who were ranked 28th and the Suns actually blew out Bron's Cavs twice that year.
Didn't LeBron score 31/8/7 on over 60% TS against those Suns teams? Two 40+ games agains them in '06, if I'm not mistaken.

Also, can you stop being selective? The Cav's beat the Pistons who were the 7th best defensive team in the league.

Yeah, LeBron would've destroy those Suns teams. The Spurs beat them because they were a defensive beast. The Suns? :oldlol:

Oh, and also, I'm pretty sure that he shot above 55% in all those games against them.

If only those no defense and soft ass teams were in the East.

[Ne 1]

Kblaze and Jeff are pro Bran. Jeff banned me for a week for saying 2/5. :oldlol:
:oldlol: What was the reason listed? "please, love my LeBron"?

[coin24]

I was also banned for a week for disagreeing about Lebrons finals performance :lol

Apparently he had the best series ever up until game 5. Even though he was getting blown by every time down the floor, more TO than assists, no blocks and piss poor rebounding. Not to mention scoreless and passive quarters going full MIA..

But apparently I was filling the board with my Lebron agenda or some shit..

[knicksman]

Didn't LeBron score 31/8/7 on over 60% TS against those Suns teams? Two 40+ games agains them in '06, if I'm not mistaken.

Also, can you stop being selective? The Cav's beat the Pistons who were the 7th best defensive team in the league.

Yeah, LeBron would've destroy those Suns teams. The Spurs beat them because they were a defensive beast. The Suns? :oldlol:

Oh, and also, I'm pretty sure that he shot above 55% in all those games against them.

If only those no defense and soft ass teams were in the East.

LOL those cavs teams wouldnt make it past the first round while spurs needed the refs to win against the suns

[Ne 1]

LOL those cavs teams wouldnt make it past the first round while spurs needed the refs to win against the suns
This. I hated the Suns back then and rooted against them, but they got jobbed. Why wasn't Duncan suspended for leaving the floor earlier in the game, if "it's a matter of correctness, not fairness?"

The Suns lost two of their better players for a home game they possibly would have won otherwise, then got to play an elimination game ON THE ROAD, courtesy of the league office. That one of the games in the series might have been fixed only completes the parlay.

The Suns may have still had their own destiny in hand, but they were fighting with one of those hands tied behind their backs.

The series was 2-2. The Suns narrowly lost game 5 by a mere three points without Amare and despite having only 7 players available, one who played a scant 3 minutes. Common sense says that with Amare they would win that game. If the series is 3-2 the momentum changes and who knows if the Spurs would win game 6. Even if they did it is highly likely that Phoenix would win game 7 at home as the road team very rarely wins game 7s. It was the direct action of the league that helped decide the series in the Spurs favor, when it was clearly in poor judgment to do so.

[aj1987]

LOL those cavs teams wouldnt make it past the first round while spurs needed the refs to win against the suns
And how many times have the Knicks made it past the 1st in the last decade, while having one of the highest payrolls in the league?

:oldlol: The Cav's in the last 10 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your scrub franchise.

Maybe you guys need a beast down low.

[ArbitraryWater]

I was also banned for a week for disagreeing about Lebrons finals performance :lol

Apparently he had the best series ever up until game 5. Even though he was getting blown by every time down the floor, more TO than assists, no blocks and piss poor rebounding. Not to mention scoreless and passive quarters going full MIA..

But apparently I was filling the board with my Lebron agenda or some shit..

He didn't have any blocks? Really? He was on Kobe's career average this entire season...

And he averaged 8 rebounds a game. Maybe you were banned for making retarded statements. And no, he had more assists than turnovers, another lie.

Basically:

any time he defers to teammates = passive bitch
when he scores = bran padding


:rolleyes:

[ball4life27]

4mvps > 1mvp:rockon:

[1~Gibson~1]

Didn't LeBron score 31/8/7 on over 60% TS against those Suns teams? Two 40+ games agains them in '06, if I'm not mistaken.

Also, can you stop being selective? The Cav's beat the Pistons who were the 7th best defensive team in the league.

Yeah, LeBron would've destroy those Suns teams. The Spurs beat them because they were a defensive beast. The Suns? :oldlol:

Oh, and also, I'm pretty sure that he shot above 55% in all those games against them.

If only those no defense and soft ass teams were in the East.
He's actually right.. back then the Cavs werent do good defensively against run n gun teams like the 08 Suns. Doesnt make LeBron any less of a player, obviously he'd still be the bes Iindividual player on thr court (or mayne this could be a diff argument but whatever), but as a team we stood no match against them.

The Suns back then sinply had too much fire power. Even if LeBron went off for 50 each game, the final score would jave been out of reach. Something like 111-98 Suns way.

[Ne 1]

The Suns were up 100-97 (after a ferocious and impressive comeback on the road no less) with 32.5 seconds remaining in the game. Cheap Shot Horry could have just tapped Nash in an obvious foul situation to stop the clock. Instead, well, see for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs147_VdQXs
PHOENIX -- There was heartbreak in the desert for the severely short-handed Phoenix Suns, and the San Antonio Spurs are one win away from the Western Conference finals.

Bruce Bowen, labeled a dirty player by the Suns' Amare Stoudemire and the subject of taunts all night from the Phoenix crowd, sank a tiebreaking 3-pointer with 36 seconds to play. That gave the Spurs their first lead since the game's opening six minutes, and they pulled out an 88-85 victory on Wednesday night.

"It felt great," Bowen said. "After all the things I was hearing from the sidelines it was great. The people were calling me choice names I had never heard before."

San Antonio took a 3-2 lead in the best-of-seven series and can close it out by winning at home in Game 6 Friday night.

The Suns, without their all-NBA center Stoudemire and replacement Boris Diaw, and using essentially a six-man rotation, nearly won a grind-it-out kind of game the Suns aren't supposed to be able to play.


Bruce Bowen kicked Nash in the family jewels (no suspension), but Stat and Diaw both got suspended "for leaving the bench" when he was sticking up for Nash after Horry's cowardly heinous act. No doubt in my mind they would have been up 3-2 going back to SA with all the momentum.

[aj1987]

The Suns were up 100-97 (after a ferocious and impressive comeback on the road no less) with 32.5 seconds remaining in the game. Cheap Shot Horry could have just tapped Nash in an obvious foul situation to stop the clock. Instead, well, see for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs147_VdQXs

Bruce Bowen kicked Nash in the family jewels (no suspension), but Stat and Diaw both got suspended "for leaving the bench" when he was sticking up for Nash after Horry's cowardly heinous act. No doubt in my mind they would have been up 3-2 going back to SA with all the momentum.
I definitely agree with you. The Suns got robbed. That being said, leaving the bench "area" is an automatic suspension after THE brawl.

[TheMarkMadsen]

He didn't have any blocks? Really? He was on Kobe's career average this entire season...

And he averaged 8 rebounds a game. Maybe you were banned for making retarded statements. And no, he had more assists than turnovers, another lie.

Basically:

any time he defers to teammates = passive bitch
when he scores = bran padding


:rolleyes:

Lebron averaged .3 blocks this season. Kobes career average is .5

Lebron had 20 assist in the finals & 19 turnovers

[coin24]

He didn't have any blocks? Really? He was on Kobe's career average this entire season...

And he averaged 8 rebounds a game. Maybe you were banned for making retarded statements. And no, he had more assists than turnovers, another lie.

Basically:

any time he defers to teammates = passive bitch
when he scores = bran padding


:rolleyes:

Can you read?

I said up until game 4, as in not including game 5 I was banned.

All those statements were true

[coin24]

And anyone arguing about east vs west playoffs wow, true dedicated bran followers:applause:

The east playoffs have been a joke for the last 15 years. Look at all those amazing teams the cavs and heat have beaten in the first and second rounds:lol :lol

[1~Gibson~1]

Yea I remember that specific game explicitly. Watching it live I could just sense some sort of rigging going on..........

From the Bruce Bowen kick
Nash's bloody nose incident
Sun's players getting ejected over a petty rule.

[BlackVVaves]

After that 2007 fuccboy shit, I couldn't stomach the Spurs organization until last season. And, that was only because they play such beautiful team basketball, it's hard to root against them.

But I definitely enjoyed every moment of their shortcomings after 2007, particularly losing to the 8th seeded Grizzlies as a 1 seed :oldlol:

That 2007 nonsense was disgusting. Literally disgusting. Almost stopped watching the NBA after that, I was that turned off by the sequence of events that occurred.

[Artillery]

After that 2007 fuccboy shit, I couldn't stomach the Spurs organization until last season. And, that was only because they play such beautiful team basketball, it's hard to root against them.

But I definitely enjoyed every moment of their shortcomings after 2007, particularly losing to the 8th seeded Grizzlies as a 1 seed :oldlol:

That 2007 nonsense was disgusting. Literally disgusting. Almost stopped watching the NBA after that, I was that turned off by the sequence of events that occurred.

Thunder fans shouldn't be complaining about rigged BS. Especially after the 2012 Conference Finals against SA when they needed Stern and his army of refs to beat SA. You just knew OKC didn't deserve to make the Finals after the way the Heat shit all over them. SA would have made it a competitive series. Durant and his team of choke artiest got destroyed in five games.

[coin24]

Thunder fans shouldn't be complaining about rigged BS. Especially after the 2012 Conference Finals against SA when they needed Stern and his army of refs to beat SA. You just knew OKC didn't deserve to make the Finals after the way the Heat shit all over them. SA would have made it a competitive series. Durant and his team of choke artiest got destroyed in five games.

Thunder from this year would have to be up there for most rigged shit ever..
Memphis and Clippers should have beaten them

[Legends66NBA7]

He's upset enough about trolling to hijack this thread.

He used this thread as an example of bad threads

There is a thread on the front page about Kobe not making the playoffs this year

Says nothing about that.

Hypocritical mutch?

Guy, be reasonable... for once. I've seen Blaze (and he's just 1 dude) lock threads by posters with an anti-Kobe agenda.

I would show it to you, but what I'm saying is that all these mods aren't here 24/7 either. He's trying to state something and he already did lock a thread up. If anti-Kobe threads get your panties in a bunch, please PM the mods and they'll do the best job they can.

Other than that, chill out.

[Legends66NBA7]

But apparently I was filling the board with my Lebron agenda or some shit..

I'd say that was a great call.

[BlackVVaves]

Thunder fans shouldn't be complaining about rigged BS. Especially after the 2012 Conference Finals against SA when they needed Stern and his army of refs to beat SA. You just knew OKC didn't deserve to make the Finals after the way the Heat shit all over them. SA would have made it a competitive series. Durant and his team of choke artiest got destroyed in five games.

The **** does OKC fans have to do with this? :wtf:

[knicksman]

And how many times have the Knicks made it past the 1st in the last decade, while having one of the highest payrolls in the league?

:oldlol: The Cav's in the last 10 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your scrub franchise.

Maybe you guys need a beast down low.

apr 2013..weak bandwagoner. Just like their beta boy:lol

[coin24]

I'd say that was a great call.

Love my Lebron or else right:lol

Glad the heat lost now all those bandwagon f@ggots have shut up for once:cheers:

[TheCorporation]

Finals MVPs is what we're after boys, unless you're saying Horry > Kobe, or Fisher = Kobe, etc. Let's be real, I will speak facts:

Kobe Bryant has won the Finals MVP twice in 7 trips. (2/7)
LeBron James has won the Finals MVP twice in 5 trips. (2/5)

What more do we need to discuss?

http://i59.tinypic.com/29w97wi.jpg

Rings are team contributions, sure Kobe had a grand escapade in Shaq's backpack for 3 ships, who wouldn't? But Kobe didn't win NBA Finals MVP because he was not the main reason they won. If we are talking about comparing player achievements then look no further than MVP winners. If we are comparing team achievements, then sure, Lakers > Heat, they have won more Championships.

But if we are comparing a player, then LBJ has 2 Finals MVPs, so does Kobe. LBJ has 4 MVPs, Kobe has...well, you know, one lol
So 4 > 1
2/5 > 2/7

Let's be real, if LBJ played with Prime Shaq for 8 years he would have AT LEAST 3 rings. So are we comparing teams or players now?

[Legends66NBA7]

Love my Lebron or else right:lol

You don't have to "love LeBron". You're posts aren't in any way reasonable when it comes to LeBron on any level. It's almost like your not a real person. Even if you don't like him or his game, you can say it without being completely outlandish and nonsensical.

I personally don't care enough about him to be a fanatic or a detractor of his. I will state things (on whatever the subject is regarding him) with an open mind and not say something beyond ridiculous.

[Megabox!]

OP gets no bitches

[Ai2death]

Remember, Lebron would of had 2 fmvp out of 3 rings if he didn't sabotage wade against Dallas as he knew Wade had the fmvp on lock.

[riseagainst]

technically if we are talking about FMVP/finals appearances, lebron has:

in 2011 he sabotaged and robbed Wade's fmvp, that's -1.
in 2012, the refs rigged the playoffs for him, that's -1.
in 2013, he was bailed out by ray allen, that's -2.

so lebron actually has -2/5.
He is so bad that he has a negative finals mvp win share.

:roll:

[bukowski81]

Finals MVPs is what we're after boys, unless you're saying Horry > Kobe, or Fisher = Kobe, etc. Let's be real, I will speak facts:

Kobe Bryant has won the Finals MVP twice in 7 trips. (2/7)
LeBron James has won the Finals MVP twice in 5 trips. (2/5)

What more do we need to discuss?

http://i59.tinypic.com/29w97wi.jpg

Rings are team contributions, sure Kobe had a grand escapade in Shaq's backpack for 3 ships, who wouldn't? But Kobe didn't win NBA Finals MVP because he was not the main reason they won. If we are talking about comparing player achievements then look no further than MVP winners. If we are comparing team achievements, then sure, Lakers > Heat, they have won more Championships.

But if we are comparing a player, then LBJ has 2 Finals MVPs, so does Kobe. LBJ has 4 MVPs, Kobe has...well, you know, one lol
So 4 > 1
2/5 > 2/7

Let's be real, if LBJ played with Prime Shaq for 8 years he would have AT LEAST 3 rings. So are we comparing teams or players now?

The saddest part is that you are not trolling, you really think you are making a good point

[Rodmantheman]

The saddest part is that you are not trolling, you really think you are making a good point

This thread is nothing but trolling.