Is LeBron's Game 4 of the 2011 Finals the worst single game performance of all time?

[SouBeachTalents]

And I'm referring to a superstar, best in the league type of player. Out of any game I can think of, this one has all the ingredients to be the worst playoff game by a superstar player in NBA history

1. LeBron scored 8, EIGHT god damn points on 3/11 shooting in a Finals game that was eventually decided by just 3 points
2. LeBron got great efforts from his teammates. Wade put up 32 on a sensational 65% from the field, while Bosh contributed 24 as well. The other members of the Big 3 both had great games, yet the Heat STILL lost
3. With the Heat up 2-1 and having HCA for games 6-7, a win here all but ends the series. There's not a chance in the world the Mavs are winning games 6-7 in Miami. A win in game 4 and the Heat basically do wrap up the series
4. In the 4th quarter of a close game that would have all but won the championship, LeBron has just two boards, no assists, two turnovers, and takes ONE shot, scoring no points in the 4th, while Jason Terry, who LeBron was guarding iirc, scores 10 points in the 4th to help Dallas win the game

In a Finals game in the prime of his career, LeBron was awful and ineffective in every way possible, and honestly singlehandedly cost the Heat a win in Game 4, a series Miami would eventually lose. My question is, can anyone name a worse performance by a superstar player in playoff history that tops this one?

[TMT]

Shawn Marion had him shook.

[kamil]

LeBron* and company also have the worst margin of defeat in NBA finals history.

[MavsSuperFan]

I will never understand how a guy with lebron's talents shoots only 11 times

[kamil]

I will never understand how a guy with lebron's talents shoots only 11 times

He doesn't have the clutch gene.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/59/59921d6b87bdfb0ab4266b39f770a140640d1660d5ff68a309 3f6e51b7e5b569.jpg

[Sarcastic]

He would've scored 0 if it was ok to outright tank. There was no way he was letting Wade win FMVP that year. It was better for him to lose the series than be seen as a beta that joined an alpha's team to chase rings.

[Fudge]

This is why he'll never be a Top 5 Great. Too beta.

[BigTicket]

John Stark's 2-18 shooting in game 7 of the finals might have been worse.

Ray Allen's 0-13 in the finals was pretty bad too.

Tony Parker once went 1-12 in a finals game that the Spurs lost by 1.

Kobe's 4-20 in game 5 of the finals against Indiana certainly wasn't pretty either.

Still, Lebron might take this one, not because he was the worst, but because he was supposed to be the best, and fell so far short

[jzek]

For a top-10 player, LeBron sure has so many fail/WTF moments in the Finals.

[Hey Yo]

Bird w B2B 8pt games in the 81 Finals with Boston leading the series 2-0

[hitmanyr2k]

And I'm referring to a superstar, best in the league type of player. Out of any game I can think of, this one has all the ingredients to be the worst playoff game by a superstar player in NBA history

1. LeBron scored 8, EIGHT god damn points on 3/11 shooting in a Finals game that was eventually decided by just 3 points
2. LeBron got great efforts from his teammates. Wade put up 32 on a sensational 65% from the field, while Bosh contributed 24 as well. The other members of the Big 3 both had great games, yet the Heat STILL lost
3. With the Heat up 2-1 and having HCA for games 6-7, a win here all but ends the series. There's not a chance in the world the Mavs are winning games 6-7 in Miami. A win in game 4 and the Heat basically do wrap up the series
4. In the 4th quarter of a close game that would have all but won the championship, LeBron has just two boards, no assists, two turnovers, and takes ONE shot, scoring no points in the 4th, while Jason Terry, who LeBron was guarding iirc, scores 10 points in the 4th to help Dallas win the game

In a Finals game in the prime of his career, LeBron was awful and ineffective in every way possible, and honestly singlehandedly cost the Heat a win in Game 4, a series Miami would eventually lose. My question is, can anyone name a worse performance by a superstar player in playoff history that tops this one?

I always say SIX point game. As if that game wasn't bad enough two of Lebron's points in that game came from the worst playoff flop of all-time.

http://i.imgur.com/7b1fUmx.gif

[kamil]

I always say SIX point game. As if that game wasn't bad enough two of Lebron's points in that game came from the worst playoff flop of all-time.

http://i.imgur.com/7b1fUmx.gif

LOL, nice catch. God damn, 6 points... that's pathetic.

[Fudge]

I always say SIX point game. As if that game wasn't bad enough two of Lebron's points in that game came from the worst playoff flop of all-time.

http://i.imgur.com/7b1fUmx.gif
:roll: :facepalm

[Duncan21formvp]

yes it is.

[BoutPractice]

It's pretty hard to top that, yeah.

[JT123]

This thread is a clear defense mechanism. :oldlol: I've noticed a lot of Heat fans doing this lately. Making negative threads about Lebron and calling him a mental midget and yada yada, all because they are scared he is going to leave. These fools are trying to trick themselves into believing he sucks so that if he does leave it won't hurt as much because he had an 8 point Finals game 3 years ago. :facepalm This is honestly embarrassing.

[Rose'sACL]

Bird had two 8 point games.

[Cold soul]

Yes, indeed it was. Lebron was flat out pathetic in 2011 NBA Finals. I've never seen player of his talent level and caliber play that awful while getting outplayed by Jason Terry of all people.

[joeyjoejoe]

Westbrook went 4/20 in game 5 of the finals

[Im so nba'd out]

kobe bryant shot 4-20 in the finals before for 8 points


reggie miller shot 1-16 in the finals before

[mr4speed]

Bird w B2B 8pt games in the 81 Finals with Boston leading the series 2-0

Boston was not up 2-0 in that series. It was 1-1 before game 3. Bird only had 8 pts but pulled down 13 rebounds that game and dished for 10 assists and was a big reason Celtics won game 3. His game 4 was only 8 pts but again had 7 assists & I think 12 rebounds. He more than made up for a poor game 4 with his game 6 of that series = 27 pts and 13 rebounds and just killed Houston in the 4th qtr with clutch baskets and passes. His game 1 and game 2 and game 6 should have earned the FMVP - but people always focus on the low scoring games and missed his overall play.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Bird had two 8 point games.


Bird w B2B 8pt games in the 81 Finals with Boston leading the series 2-0

Actually it was 1-1 right before, oh and.......

-He was 24 and in his 2nd year, so not at his very best or that close
(I'd still take his performance over LeBron's 2011 when LBJ was already at his best, let alone LeBron's 2007 peformance :oldlol:)

-He also averaged 12.5 rebounds and 8.5 assists, for those two games; and he was easily the best playmaker in the series, getting most attention and getting everyone, especially Cornbread, easy baskets, plus almost outrebounded prime Moses, and played some really good D, 3rd best scorer in the series too, agressive and physical af

-He closed the series with 27/13/5 on 11/20 from the field, really clutch in the 4th

-He was the leader and best player of a team that had the 2nd worst record in the league before him (same team, then in 81 Cowens was gone and Parish in), and actually WON

-He didn't have a single teammate as good as Wade (around 2011), not even remotely close, shit he didn't even have an established player/teammate at the same level that Chris Bosh was (Maxwell and Parish were the closest and they never did what Bosh was doing in the late 00's, especially before they were playing alongside Larry).... Better yet, I should say he didn't (even) JOIN :lol

Stop talking about stuff you know nothing of... Saying stuff for the **** of it, not mentioning the whole story or close and without any type of context :rolleyes: :facepalm

[SHAQisGOAT]

Boston was not up 2-0 in that series. It was 1-1 before game 3. Bird only had 8 pts but pulled down 13 rebounds that game and dished for 10 assists and was a big reason Celtics won game 3. His game 4 was only 8 pts but again had 7 assists & I think 12 rebounds. He more than made up for a poor game 4 with his game 6 of that series = 27 pts and 13 rebounds and just killed Houston in the 4th qtr with clutch baskets and passes. His game 1 and game 2 and game 6 should have earned the FMVP - but people always focus on the low scoring games and missed his overall play.

:applause:

[riseagainst]

if lebron was a top 10 player all time, i'd say that's the worst finals game by a top 10 player all time. But he's not in the top 10.

if lebron was a top 20 player all time, i'd say that's the worst finals game by a top 20 player all time. But he's not in the top 20.

if lebron was a top 30 player all time, i'd say that's the worst finals game by a top 30 player all time. He happens to crack the top 30, just barely.

[SouBeachTalents]

I always say SIX point game. As if that game wasn't bad enough two of Lebron's points in that game came from the worst playoff flop of all-time.

http://i.imgur.com/7b1fUmx.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFe8KUEQdn4

[Hands of Iron]

Boston was not up 2-0 in that series. It was 1-1 before game 3. Bird only had 8 pts but pulled down 13 rebounds that game and dished for 10 assists and was a big reason Celtics won game 3. His game 4 was only 8 pts but again had 7 assists & I think 12 rebounds. He more than made up for a poor game 4 with his game 6 of that series = 27 pts and 13 rebounds and just killed Houston in the 4th qtr with clutch baskets and passes. His game 1 and game 2 and game 6 should have earned the FMVP - but people always focus on the low scoring games and missed his overall play.

Most people on here DKSAB and that is a sad fact. The 3-point % thread was another gem.

[masonanddixon]

On top of it all Dirk was playing with sinusitis and a 102F temperature.

[coin24]

Definitely worst game ever for a supposed star:cheers:
Then again, some people expect too much from a barely top 25 player..

[tmacattack33]

I'd have to watch it again.

Just going by stats though, a 3/11 performance killed 11 possessions and 8 of them ended with no points.

And I remember many 4/20 type performances...which means that that player ended 16 possessions for his team with no points, which is obviously worse.

[AintNoSunshine]

THE WORST Finals performance from an all time great. No possible way to defend that. He was shook.

[NumberSix]

Kobe game 7 against Phoenix.

[TheCorporation]

3 for 11, so if he kept up with that horrible pace he would be...6 for 22?

6 for 22? Hmm, I think I remember someone being 6 for 24 in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, but, Mr. 6 for 24's teammates were good enough to WIN him the game. :lol :lol

3 for 11 > 6 for 24

Thread fail, once again

Too easy, kids.

Served :bowdown:

[DFish24]

No need to re-open old wounds OP. Bran stans have been insecure enough after their idol went 2/5.

[The-Legend-24]

I forgot he actually played in that series. :oldlol:

[coin24]

3 for 11, so if he kept up with that horrible pace he would be...6 for 22?

6 for 22? Hmm, I think I remember someone being 6 for 24 in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, but, Mr. 6 for 24's teammates were good enough to WIN him the game. :lol :lol

3 for 11 > 6 for 24

Thread fail, once again

Too easy, kids.

Served :bowdown:


2/5 doe ouch:lol

[SouBeachTalents]

This thread is a clear defense mechanism. :oldlol: I've noticed a lot of Heat fans doing this lately. Making negative threads about Lebron and calling him a mental midget and yada yada, all because they are scared he is going to leave. These fools are trying to trick themselves into believing he sucks so that if he does leave it won't hurt as much because he had an 8 point Finals game 3 years ago. :facepalm This is honestly embarrassing.

Mind reading fail

[sportjames23]

Boston was not up 2-0 in that series. It was 1-1 before game 3. Bird only had 8 pts but pulled down 13 rebounds that game and dished for 10 assists and was a big reason Celtics won game 3. His game 4 was only 8 pts but again had 7 assists & I think 12 rebounds. He more than made up for a poor game 4 with his game 6 of that series = 27 pts and 13 rebounds and just killed Houston in the 4th qtr with clutch baskets and passes. His game 1 and game 2 and game 6 should have earned the FMVP - but people always focus on the low scoring games and missed his overall play.



Actually it was 1-1 right before, oh and.......

-He was 24 and in his 2nd year, so not at his very best or that close
(I'd still take his performance over LeBron's 2011 when LBJ was already at his best, let alone LeBron's 2007 peformance :oldlol:)

-He also averaged 12.5 rebounds and 8.5 assists, for those two games; and he was easily the best playmaker in the series, getting most attention and getting everyone, especially Cornbread, easy baskets, plus almost outrebounded prime Moses, and played some really good D, 3rd best scorer in the series too, agressive and physical af

-He closed the series with 27/13/5 on 11/20 from the field, really clutch in the 4th

-He was the leader and best player of a team that had the 2nd worst record in the league before him (same team, then in 81 Cowens was gone and Parish in), and actually WON

-He didn't have a single teammate as good as Wade (around 2011), not even remotely close, shit he didn't even have an established player/teammate at the same level that Chris Bosh was (Maxwell and Parish were the closest and they never did what Bosh was doing in the late 00's, especially before they were playing alongside Larry).... Better yet, I should say he didn't (even) JOIN :lol

Stop talking about stuff you know nothing of... Saying stuff for the **** of it, not mentioning the whole story or close and without any type of context :rolleyes: :facepalm


:cheers: to both of you. Stans ALWAYS leave out the details when they try to push their agendas.

[Eric Cartman]

3 for 11, so if he kept up with that horrible pace he would be...6 for 22?

6 for 22? Hmm, I think I remember someone being 6 for 24 in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, but, Mr. 6 for 24's teammates were good enough to WIN him the game. :lol :lol

3 for 11 > 6 for 24

Thread fail, once again

Too easy, kids.

Served :bowdown:

Bosh and Wade were amazing that game.

[stalkerforlife]

It was voted the worst choke of all time.

[BasedTom]

this shit still pisses me off more than any other outcome in sports

there is literally no way to defend this, try as you might. the next day I seriously wondered if lebron had been contacted by the mob to throw the series

wade could have another fmvp :(
the heat could have a 3peat :(

[Mr. Jabbar]

Yes it is :lol :lol fvcking pathetic :oldlol:

[dubeta]

this shit still pisses me off more than any other outcome in sports

there is literally no way to defend this, try as you might. the next day I seriously wondered if lebron had been contacted by the mob to throw the series

wade could have another fmvp :(
the heat could have a 3peat :(

Rent free baby boy :roll:




LeBron trolled the entire Heat fanbase with that game, still has you boys shook :lol :lol

[GrapeApe]

Rent free baby boy :roll:




LeBron trolled the entire Heat fanbase with that game, still has you boys shook :lol :lol

So you're saying Lebron intentionally played like shit, forever tarnishing his legacy, just to troll Heat fans?

I can honestly say I've never heard that spin before. Bravo.

[BasedTom]

Rent free baby boy :roll:




LeBron trolled the entire Heat fanbase with that game, still has you boys shook :lol :lol
http://i.imgur.com/waSRHdT.gif

so he humiliated himself on the biggest stage
in up to that point one of the biggest games in his career
when all the world was deriding him for not having a ring and eager to see if he could finally get it done

all so he could get at heat fans and his teammates, the only people NOT shitting on him during the whole mess (while the governor of ohio, now running for the republican nomination btw, declared the dallas mavericks "Honorary Ohioans" whatever that's worth)

Please explain your reasoning. Please explain to me how even if you are correct, how it's not one of the most bitchmade, beta, and perfidious things a person could do.

[WayOfWade]

Yes it is :lol :lol fvcking pathetic :oldlol:
Fantastic post Jabbar, couldn't agree more :cheers:

[Young X]

Harden's game 5 against the Warriors last season.

[3ball]

.
...........Percentage of points scored while player is on floor



.......................RS......RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997.... 36.0..... 40.1..... 37.7..... 46.3...... 40.9...... 50.4
JORDAN 1998.... 36.3..... 42.1..... 39.7..... 48.8...... 43.6...... 49.1


LEBRON 2009.... 35.0..... 39.3..... 41.5..... 42.4
LEBRON 2010.... 34.6..... 44.4..... 32.6..... 40.3
LEBRON 2011.... 32.0..... 32.8..... 28.1..... 30.7...... 21.4...... 14.8
LEBRON 2012.... 34.2..... 33.8..... 34.5..... 34.9...... 30.0...... 33.3
LEBRON 2013.... 32.1..... 32.1..... 30.6..... 36.0...... 29.3...... 39.1
LEBRON 2014.... 33.1..... 38.2..... 35.3..... 32.1...... 39.6...... 29.5
LEBRON 2015.... 30.1..... 38.9..... 35.0..... 42.4...... 40.0...... 44.5
LEBRON 2016.... 33.1..... 41.9

CURRY 2015..... 29.9..... 36.2...... 33.4..... 36.6...... 29.3...... 40.6
CURRY 2016..... 35.8..... 42.5


Source: stats.nba.comSource: stats.nba.com

[masonanddixon]

That was probably the worst game I have ever seen by a so-called top 5 player in a Finals.

[Funktion]

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/s--nh9ngFdm--/t_full/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_75/v1405110412/lebron-vs-bosh-and-d-wade.gif

[Bankaii]

Or maybe 24 year old Larry Bird whom put up 8 points in BACK TO BACK Finals games.

Despite him shooting 3/11 both times his team still won one of the games by 20+ points.

One of the most overrated players in history.

[stalkerforlife]

Or maybe 24 year old Larry Bird whom put up 8 points in BACK TO BACK Finals games.

Despite him shooting 3/11 both times his team still won one of the games by 20+ points.

One of the most overrated players in history.

That's the point...they won.

:biggums:

Had Bran merely scored 12 points, they win 3 titles in a row.

Bird felt no need to pad stats.

[imnew09]

http://i.imgur.com/pSngI.jpg

Pathetic :facepalm

[ShawkFactory]

That was probably the worst game I have ever seen by a so-called top 5 player in a Finals.
Is the "so-called" top 5 player...top 5 of all time? Is that what you're saying?

Because I don't believe that lebron James is top 5 of all time.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Brans game 1 against 08 Celtics was worse IMO

12 pts on 2-18 shoot, 0-6 from 3 and 10 turnovers. 26TS, 11 EFG% 54 ORTG:lol :lol KG ATE that @zz:applause: :applause: Bran had a NEGATIVE gamescore and was the only Cavs started in minus +/-:roll: :roll:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200805060BOS.html

[ShawkFactory]

Brans game 1 against 08 Celtics was worse IMO

12 pts on 2-18 shoot, 0-6 from 3 and 10 turnovers. 26TS, 11 EFG% 54 ORTG:lol :lol KG ATE that @zz:applause: :applause: Bran had a NEGATIVE gamescore and was the only Cavs started in minus +/-:roll: :roll:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200805060BOS.html
One of his worst to be sure.

He came back and did 45 in a close loss in game 7.

[dhsilv]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200406100DET.html

Not exactly an all time great game here..

[feyki]

Bird w B2B 8pt games in the 81 Finals with Boston leading the series 2-0

http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/finals/1981.htm

You must check the numbers .

[Bankaii]

That's the point...they won.

:biggums:

Had Bran merely scored 12 points, they win 3 titles in a row.

Bird felt no need to pad stats.
If you spent as much time working as you do trolling online maybe your family would love you.

[ShaqTwizzle]

James : 8 / 9 / 7-ast
Kobe : 11 / 3 / 5-ast (G3 2004 Finals)

:confusedshrug:

[Straight_Ballin]

And I'm referring to a superstar, best in the league type of player. Out of any game I can think of, this one has all the ingredients to be the worst playoff game by a superstar player in NBA history

1. LeBron scored 8, EIGHT god damn points on 3/11 shooting in a Finals game that was eventually decided by just 3 points
2. LeBron got great efforts from his teammates. Wade put up 32 on a sensational 65% from the field, while Bosh contributed 24 as well. The other members of the Big 3 both had great games, yet the Heat STILL lost
3. With the Heat up 2-1 and having HCA for games 6-7, a win here all but ends the series. There's not a chance in the world the Mavs are winning games 6-7 in Miami. A win in game 4 and the Heat basically do wrap up the series
4. In the 4th quarter of a close game that would have all but won the championship, LeBron has just two boards, no assists, two turnovers, and takes ONE shot, scoring no points in the 4th, while Jason Terry, who LeBron was guarding iirc, scores 10 points in the 4th to help Dallas win the game

In a Finals game in the prime of his career, LeBron was awful and ineffective in every way possible, and honestly singlehandedly cost the Heat a win in Game 4, a series Miami would eventually lose. My question is, can anyone name a worse performance by a superstar player in playoff history that tops this one?

Honestly, anything that lebron has ever done is meaningless. This guy just travels not stop. His stats, rings, everything mean nothing. Anyone can put up good numbers if they don't play the game according to the rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptH0DyiomvE

[TomBrady]

Michael Jordan pushed off, gambled on basketball, and killed his father. I allegedly deflated footballs even though the PSI differences weren't anywhere close to a point where they would provide an advantage. LeBron gets away with the odd travel the same way that every other player in the league does and sometimes stiff arms on drives. Kobe Bryant raped someone.

Jordan's legacy as the GOAT, my legacy as the GOAT, and Kobe/LeBron's legacy as top 10 all time players stay as is. Stop being such a hormonal bitch.

[SouBeachTalents]

I think people are focusing too much on the statistical output. Obviously, LeBron's is pathetic, and would be at the bottom of the barrel anyway. But it's the additional factors that really put it over the top

The stakes: A chance to go up 3-1 in the Finals with HCA in Games 6 & 7
Teammate performance: Wade & Bosh put up 56 points combined
Crunch time: ZERO points AND assists in the 4th quarter, took ONE shot, let the guy he was primarily guarding go off for 10 points in the 4th as well

Most amazing of all, even most of the minimal points he scored were fradulant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFe8KUEQdn4

2 points on a goal tend
2 free throws from a shameless, embarrassing flop
2 points on a wide open dunk set up almost solely by Wade
2 points on a jumper over Terry

Factor in he was healthy and in the peak of his career, a stretch where he won 4 MVP's in 5 seasons, and I just don't see any argument for a game from a legitimate superstar or an all time great worse than this one