Iman Shumpert Possibly Getting Traded on Draft Day?

[Smook A.]

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[Rameek]

Good. He needs to go.... Next will be Chandler, hopefully Felton, but the one guy that has to go is Bargs.

[Smook A.]

Good. He needs to go.... Next will be Chandler, hopefully Felton, but the one guy that has to go is Bargs.
Good luck. It won't be easy to find a trade parter for Bargs

[Rameek]

Good luck. It won't be easy to find a trade parter for Bargs
Yeah only the Knicks would give up 2 or 3 picks for this scrub.

[JohnFreeman]

I would take Shumpert, but not at the expense of a pick. Would have to be packaged with someone else.

[Levity]

Shumpert to CHA for the 24th pick?

[Smook A.]

Shumpert to CHA for the 24th pick?
Its possible

[Akrazotile]

Funny thing is, everyone would want him for a bargain, nobody wants him now bc they figure someone else will overpay him to leave.

And its probably true. Someone will probably overpay him and instantly regret it. It just wouldnt be the NBA otherwise.

[no pun intended]

Funny thing is, everyone would want him for a bargain, nobody wants him now bc they figure someone else will overpay him to leave.

And its probably true. Someone will probably overpay him and instantly regret it. It just wouldnt be the NBA otherwise.
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[imdaman99]

Fcking hell. He was a 17th pick and he has potential. I think the only reason he struggled was because Woodson hated him and he hated Woodson. Keep him and let him be a piece. He's not a #2 but a good #3 or 4 option. Don't trade him Knicks :facepalm

[Legends66NBA7]

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Also this guy

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[BlazerRed]

OKC would be a perfect fit. Makes too much sense.

[hawkfan]

Good luck. It won't be easy to find a trade parter for Bargs

Bargnani for Louis Williams, plus Knicks throw in 3 million.
Knicks get an expirer and save 6.6 in salary plus associated luxury tax.
Hawks get a center to help spread the floor.
Antic is a backup.
Horford moves to 4.

[All Net]

Been rumours of him going to OKC.

[hawkfan]

Been rumours of him going to OKC.

Yep. He takes sefolosha's spot.

[Smook A.]

Been rumours of him going to OKC.
Great fit

[andremiller07]

Sign and trade for Isaiah Thomas

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Sign and trade for Isaiah Thomas
lol Shumpert is the next Dwyane Wade. He's worth more than Dragic.

[andremiller07]

lol Shumpert is the next Dwyane Wade. He's worth more than Dragic.
:roll: I almost forgot about that

[-Lebron23-]

lol Shumpert is the next Dwyane Wade. He's worth more than Dragic.
:lol

[BlazerRed]

lol Shumpert is the next Dwyane Wade. He's worth more than Dragic.
:coleman:

[Spaulding]

Yep. He takes sefolosha's spot.

That would be a great move for OKC!

[russwest0]

okc makes the most sense and it could very well happen.

they apparently promised this kristaps porzingis kid they'd draft him but he just removed his name from the draft so if they don't like their options I'd expect them to trade for shumpert.

They already tried to trade for shumpert at the deadline this year but it didn't work out.

[Beastmode88]

In before he gets himself injured again. :facepalm

[hawksdogsbraves]

Shump has a lot more value to a good team than a bad one, I agree that OKC would be a pretty good fit.

[-Lebron23-]

No way he is leaving without being packaged with JR Smith, Bargs or Chandler unless the 1st round is higher than that.

Bargs and Shumpert to OKC for some of their garbage + young talent + a pick?

[JohnFreeman]

Shumpert + Chandler for Gay + 8th pick

[D-Rose]

@ZachLowe_NBA 2m
Re: @ESPNSteinLine report of NYK exploring Shump for 1st-round pick: Watch the Heat, potentially using No. 26 as main bait for Shumpert.

Shump would be a great fit in Miami.

[russwest0]

Shump has a lot more value to a good team than a bad one, I agree that OKC would be a pretty good fit.

Yeah, a Westbrook/Shumpert starting backcourt would be hype as hell. Good luck opposing guards :lol

Plus if he ever does return to form then the payoff for giving up just a late first rounder for him is huge.

Imagine this team

PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: Iman Shumpert
SF: Kevin Durant
PF: Serge Ibaka
C: Steven Adams

6th man: Reggie Jackson
7th man: Jeremy Lamb
8th man: Perry Jones
9th man: Kendrick Perkins
10th man: Nick Collison

Only Scott Brooks could **** that up :lol

[niko]

If we keep him, we need to extend him. Not saying I want to get rid of him, but that is a concern. Do you want to pay $7M a year for Shump? I can see that easily.

[russwest0]

Fcking hell. He was a 17th pick and he has potential. I think the only reason he struggled was because Woodson hated him and he hated Woodson. Keep him and let him be a piece. He's not a #2 but a good #3 or 4 option. Don't trade him Knicks :facepalm

He's only got one year left on his deal and the Knicks are in rebuilding mode.

You'd be better off getting something like OKC's 21st pick and letting Phil take a blank slate that he thinks can be a solid piece in the triangle.

[imdaman99]

He's only got one year left on his deal and the Knicks are in rebuilding mode.

You'd be better off getting something like OKC's 21st pick and letting Phil take a blank slate that he thinks can be a solid piece in the triangle.
Yeah last year I would have done the trade at the deadline with OKC. Pissed me off when the Clippers got involved to cokblok that trade, didn't want a Darren Collson. Lamb for Shump? :D I can guarantee you that the moron Brooks is more likely to play Shump because of his effort on D (and with strength) than he is to play da brodie :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

Yep. He takes sefolosha's spot.

He's basically a shorter version of Sefolosha.

[DMAVS41]

Thunder should do this even if they can get Meeks in free agency actually. Just another quality player at a position they desperately need help at...and his salary is low and expires soon.

He's a decent shooter from three when he's wide open also.

The Thunder need to make a shift and get Durant to buy in defensively anyway...and this helps a lot.

The Thunder should try to be the best defensive team in the league next year...and;

WB
Shump
Durant
Ibaka
Adams

Could easily do that. Easily...

[russwest0]

Durant bought in defensively last year. And two years ago he made a big jump on defense.

inb4 Ryan Kelly gif

look at games like okc vs houston where okc held houston 18 second half points. durants defense was the primary reason for that.

if brooks can get him some more rest and trust someone like PJ3 more as the backup SF then he'd also have more energy for that end of the floor.

but yeah OKC w/ a healthy Shump could easily be the best defensive team in the league.

[DMAVS41]

Durant bought in defensively last year. And two years ago he made a big jump on defense.

inb4 Ryan Kelly gif

look at games like okc vs houston where okc held houston 18 second half points. durants defense was the primary reason for that.

if brooks can get him some more rest and trust someone like PJ3 more as the backup SF then he'd also have more energy for that end of the floor.

but yeah OKC w/ a healthy Shump could easily be the best defensive team in the league.

I know he's improved, but he has a lot of room to grow on that end given his length and athleticism.

My point is that if the Thunder got a guy like Shumpert and added another piece potentially.

[Element]

Shump getting real overrated ITT

He's too fond of his dribble pull-up and starts chucking when the team offense is stagnant (hello 13-14 Knicks). His value was negative apart from the Texas roadtrip when he destroyed his matchups to the tune of 27 ppg on 70 FG% along with 6 made threes per game. That was incredible. Otherwise, he largely sucked. Played out of control, had poor shot selection and shot poorly, while also developing a gambling habit on defense that hadn't existed before.

He could of course blossom in OKC because, let's face it, the Knicks certainly don't provide the right environment for a player like him to grow. But so far, he's been highly overrated.

[russwest0]

Shump getting real overrated ITT

He's too fond of his dribble pull-up and starts chucking when the team offense is stagnant (hello 13-14 Knicks). His value was negative apart from the Texas roadtrip when he destroyed his matchups to the tune of 27 ppg on 70 FG% along with 6 made threes per game. That was incredible. Otherwise, he largely sucked. Played out of control, had poor shot selection and shot poorly, while also developing a gambling habit on defense that hadn't existed before.

He could of course blossom in OKC because, let's face it, the Knicks certainly don't provide the right environment for a player like him to grow. But so far, he's been highly overrated.

No worries, I'm sure that Scott Brooks and the boys can coach him up :rockon:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

OKC definitely seems like a good fit for him. I'd like to see that.

[KyrieTheFuture]

OKC bout to be stacked with Shump on the squad. He was NYK's second best player for Christ sakes now when he's the 4th he'll flourish much better

[Legends66NBA7]

Sign and trade for Isaiah Thomas


lol Shumpert is the next Dwyane Wade. He's worth more than Dragic.

Passive aggressive.

[AboutBuckets]

Yep. He takes sefolosha's spot.
That would be fantastic for the Thunder

[DMAVS41]

Shump getting real overrated ITT

He's too fond of his dribble pull-up and starts chucking when the team offense is stagnant (hello 13-14 Knicks). His value was negative apart from the Texas roadtrip when he destroyed his matchups to the tune of 27 ppg on 70 FG% along with 6 made threes per game. That was incredible. Otherwise, he largely sucked. Played out of control, had poor shot selection and shot poorly, while also developing a gambling habit on defense that hadn't existed before.

He could of course blossom in OKC because, let's face it, the Knicks certainly don't provide the right environment for a player like him to grow. But so far, he's been highly overrated.

Who cares if he's over-rated? The 21st pick for a player that plays a position of need and is on a contract that expires after next season at 2.7 million is worth it for sure.

[wally_world]

Would love him on OKC :cheers:

[wally_world]

Why has he depreciated so much? I thought he was touted as one of the better defenders with a high ceiling to become a top level defensive stopper with good offensive potential, size, handles?

[imdaman99]

He's basically a shorter version of Sefolosha.
STFU you biased piece of shit. Shumpert is twice the player Sefoloshit is.

Let's ask the Thunder fans how they feel about it, not some clueless "Nets fan" that hates the Knicks.

Shump + Chandler for Lamb + Perkins + 1st round pick.

OKC is in a win now, and it's not like they get much older with switching Shump and Lamb. We all can agree that Chandler would come in handy in the West, a lot more than Perkins, even if Chandler is older. He can teach Adams the ways.

[imdaman99]

Why has he depreciated so much? I thought he was touted as one of the better defenders with a high ceiling to become a top level defensive stopper with good offensive potential, size, handles?
He's still a great defender. Knicks defense was shit (even Chandler) last year but he was still the only one playing it. You can't exactly put Bruce Bowen on a terrible defensive team and expect him to have similar results with no team defense behind him. Knicks were bad last year, but they looked twice as bad when Shump was out. Every guard in the league was licking their lips knowing Felton would be guarding him, especially while Shump was out :oldlol:

It didn't help that Woodson hated Shump and bashed him publicly as often as he did.

[russwest0]

I just wish that the Knicks weren't so dumb and that we could have gotten him at the deadline last year so that he could be acclimated quicker and more ready for next year.

[russwest0]

I don't think people realize how low risk of a move this is with such a big reward if he is able to return to health and/or keep developing his 3pt shot.

In OKC he'd be the 5th or maybe even 6th option offensively (if you count bench players) which would take so much more pressure off of him compared to New York.

There are countless OKC games where Sefolosha played like total ass offensively (hell, more often than not this was the case) but OKC still won a bunch of games.

Point is that Shumpert is a huge step up from the Sefolosha we saw this year and that it'd allow Reggie Jackson to stay with the 2nd unit (which he hopefully is fine with) to give us more balance overall.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Lamb+Perkins+1st+Trade exception for Chandler+Shumpert seems like a great deal for both sides.

[russwest0]

Lamb+Perkins+1st+Trade exception for Chandler+Shumpert seems like a great deal for both sides.

Lol the funny thing is, is that Sam Presti has already agreed to trades for both players before. Chandler's was waived off because he failed his physical and the Shumpert one failed because the Knicks derped.

[navy]

Sefolosha is done. Anything is an upgrade.

[-Lebron23-]

Lamb+Perkins+1st+Trade exception for Chandler+Shumpert seems like a great deal for both sides.
Yep, great trade

[NBAplayoffs2001]

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Love his potential but I watched him live during his rookie season and the season after. The man takes too many threes rather than driving to the basket :facepalm

[Dr Seuss]

Lamb+Perkins+1st+Trade exception for Chandler+Shumpert seems like a great deal for both sides.

i dont think you can combine players with TE's

[RoundMoundOfReb]

i dont think you can combine players with TE's
Oh. Then replace it with Sefolosha.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

STFU you biased piece of shit. Shumpert is twice the player Sefoloshit is.

Let's ask the Thunder fans how they feel about it, not some clueless "Nets fan" that hates the Knicks.

Shump + Chandler for Lamb + Perkins + 1st round pick.

OKC is in a win now, and it's not like they get much older with switching Shump and Lamb. We all can agree that Chandler would come in handy in the West, a lot more than Perkins, even if Chandler is older. He can teach Adams the ways.

I want Lamb but I don't want Perkins. I do want Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb especially though for just shump. A Knicks fan can dream can't he?

[imdaman99]

I want Lamb but I don't want Perkins. I do want Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb especially though for just shump. A Knicks fan can dream can't he?
Oh I definitely do not want Perkins, but I wanted to sweeten the deal that would allow the Knicks to suck this year so they can get a good draft pick next year. So it would be a lottery pick (Lamb) + 21st pick + high draft pick next year.

I'm ok with the Knicks sucking for a few years if it means they can build a team like OKC through a couple of top 5 draft picks. Obviously that is not something easy to do, hitting homeruns draft after draft. What I'm not OK with is continuing to be bad/mediocre or 1st round fodder. Blow this shit up if Melo is leaving. I would prefer Melo leaving anyway, since re-signing him leaves the Knicks as mediocre. He is not young anymore. He might age well, but he's 30.

[Legends66NBA7]

STFU you biased piece of shit. Shumpert is twice the player Sefoloshit is.

If that's the case, so is Evan Turner and Landry Fields.

[navy]

Love his potential but I watched him live during his rookie season and the season after. The man takes too many threes rather than driving to the basket :facepalm
He has weak handles and plays for the Knicks. What do you expect?

[Smook A.]

OKC will really get a steal in Shump if they get him by only trading their pick.

[imdaman99]

If that's the case, so is Evan Turner and Landry Fields.
Come on man, I liked Landry when he was here but his shot is broken as fck. He was doing so well early in his rookie year, and then he decided to change his jumpshot. Don't know what he was thinking. I got tired of seeing him in the corner wide open and no one even bothering to cover him, which is what they do to Sefolosha.

Shump's jumper is not broken + he plays great defense. Don't troll Shump because the Raps overpaid for Fields, that's not fair to me as a Shump supporter :D

Turner ain't bad but wasn't worthy of being drafted #2. He is probably better than Shump because he is a lot like Boris Diaw in that he can do everything well but nothing great...but he didn't play like it in Indiana.

:cheers:

[wally_world]

OKC is too stubborn to trade Perk, so Chandler wont be in any deal

[el gringos]

OKC is too stubborn to trade Perk, so Chandler wont be in any deal
Exactly, and then you remember they'd have to take on salary as well? Yeah doesn't seem like chandler to okc is possible.


Too bad too, because chandler and Felton both need moved and nobody can come up w anywhere that would want chandler

[MellowYellow]

He's still a great defender. Knicks defense was shit (even Chandler) last year but he was still the only one playing it. You can't exactly put Bruce Bowen on a terrible defensive team and expect him to have similar results with no team defense behind him. Knicks were bad last year, but they looked twice as bad when Shump was out. Every guard in the league was licking their lips knowing Felton would be guarding him, especially while Shump was out :oldlol:

It didn't help that Woodson hated Shump and bashed him publicly as often as he did.

He was good at times, but also bad at times. Melo was the most consistent defender for the Knicks last season, Shumpert was inconsistent and gambled too much.

[Springsteen]

Trade their best defensive player who is still developing and still has potential to grow for a pick at the bottom of the draft? Sure, why not! I guess the Knicks FO sees more potential in THJR (JR Smith 2.0 in the making).

knicks :facepalm

[Springsteen]

He was good at times, but also bad at times. Melo was the most consistent defender for the Knicks last season, Shumpert was inconsistent and gambled too much.


Melo was the most consistent defender for the Knicks last season.


Melo was the most consistent defender.

:biggums:

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[Legends66NBA7]

Trade their best defensive player who is still developing and still has potential to grow for a pick at the bottom of the draft?

Chandler is the Knicks best defensive player. Shumpert is no better than Turner and Fields. He's a below average player. A defensive specialist who isn't great at anything else is pretty easy to come by around the league.

[russwest0]

I know that one thing Presti and OKC are huge on, is accounting for teammate talent level when grading players.

Like when they grade prospects they go through and adjust all of their scores/stats/whatever (depending on what it is) according to whoever the player was playing alongside.

At least in certain areas.

So maybe they've done it with Shumpert and feel that he provides more value than he was able to display in New York.

[qrich]

Been rumours of him going to OKC.

OKC all but had him at the deadline, until Sacks trolled both sides.

[1~Gibson~1]

Id trade as high as a lottery pick for him. Who in this draft is better than Shumpert? :confusedshrug:

[Fudge]

OKC's #29 is a rumoured deal.

[imdaman99]

Chandler is the Knicks best defensive player. Shumpert is no better than Turner and Fields. He's a below average player. A defensive specialist who isn't great at anything else is pretty easy to come by around the league.
I don't understand how someone of another team who probably doesn't watch more than 4-5 games of a team can make such a statement. Chandler used to be their best defensive player but that was a while ago. He was really only good in 2011, his 2012 DPOY award was given to him because there were no other options. Chandler quit on the Knicks defensively last year so NO, Chandler was absofckinglutely NOT their best defender.

Shump is better than Fields, I have seen them both. Find some other player to troll ffs, this is getting laughable.

[Cocaine80s]

Wtf I always thought shumpert was their best guy after Melo.

Didnt see any knicks games this season tho

[Cocaine80s]

Id trade as high as a lottery pick for him. Who in this draft is better than Shumpert? :confusedshrug:
the entire lottery

[Legends66NBA7]

I don't understand how someone of another team who probably doesn't watch more than 4-5 games of a team can make such a statement. Chandler used to be their best defensive player but that was a while ago. He was really only good in 2011, his 2012 DPOY award was given to him because there were no other options. Chandler quit on the Knicks defensively last year so NO, Chandler was absofckinglutely NOT their best defender.

No, check their defensive numbers. Chandler is better than Iman. Iman just played more games but certainly doesn't have more defensive impact.


Shump is better than Fields, I have seen them both. Find some other player to troll ffs, this is getting laughable.

Even if he is better (which is saying nothing), it's not like it's by some huge gap. Face it man, he's below average. It's not even trolling. Anyone who's seen the guy perform knows that he's a specialist and nothing more. Literally a dime a dozen player.

[Legends66NBA7]

Wtf I always thought shumpert was their best guy after Melo.

Didnt see any knicks games this season tho

When healthy, their best guy after Melo is Amare.

[smoovegittar]

Love the kid. I think Shump is GOLD. Give me a year with the new coach and PJ in place before you send him off for an unproven pick. Anyone who thinks Iman is under-rated either has not watched enough or is just plain trolling. Kid's got swag, skills and heart... what 3/4 of the league is missing.