Are the Lakers the only team that can get Melo & Bron without having trade anyone?

[WeGetRing2012]

The Lakers Payroll next yr
Kobe - 23.5 mil
Nash (waived) - 3mil
Sacre - .9 mil
Marshall - .9 mil

Which puts our total payroll at 28.3 mil and leaves us with 34.7 mil in cap space. If Melo and Lebron sign for 15 mil each we would still be left with 4mil cap space and the full MLE exception (5mil). We also have the bird rights to Gasol and can go over the cap to sign him back.

Another question, can we sign Melo & Lebron to escalating contracts so that the money they sacrifice this year can be made up in the next 3yrs of their contract? So for example if they make 15mil this year but the following 3 years they make 22 mil their contract would still total the max 80 mil/4yrs.

[lilgodfather1]

So Nash is going to give up a lot of money, and LeBron and Melo on their last maximum contracts (most likely) are going to take 7 million a year paycuts to play with a guy that just missed an entire year, and is in his twilight years...

Logic get some.

No they are not getting both. Kobe just makes too much.

[SpecialQue]

The Lakers Payroll next yr
Kobe - 23.5 mil
Nash (waived) - 3mil
Sacre - .9 mil
Marshall - .9 mil

Which puts our total payroll at 28.3 mil and leaves us with 34.7 mil in cap space. If Melo and Lebron sign for 15 mil each we would still be left with 4mil cap space and the full MLE exception (5mil). We also have the bird rights to Gasol and can go over the cap to sign him back.

Another question, can we sign Melo & Lebron to escalating contracts so that the money they sacrifice this year can be made up in the next 3yrs of their contract? So for example if they make 15mil this year but the following 3 years they make 22 mil their contract would still total the max 80 mil/4yrs.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[scm5]

So Nash is going to give up a lot of money, and LeBron and Melo on their last maximum contracts (most likely) are going to take 7 million a year paycuts to play with a guy that just missed an entire year, and is in his twilight years...

Logic get some.

No they are not getting both. Kobe just makes too much.

hypothetically, if Lebron/Melo wanted to go to LA, could LA stretch out Kobe's contract so he makes less per year, for a longer period of time?

[WeGetRing2012]

So Nash is going to give up a lot of money, and LeBron and Melo on their last maximum contracts (most likely) are going to take 7 million a year paycuts to play with a guy that just missed an entire year, and is in his twilight years...

Logic get some.

No they are not getting both. Kobe just makes too much.

Did you not read anything I wrote??

Nash will be waived by THE LAKERS most likely using the stretch provision putting his cap hit at 3mil.

I'm asking if Melo and Lebron can sign escalating contracts to lessen the cap hit this year but make up their money in the following years of their max contract so that they wouldn't sacrifice anything.

[QuebecBaller]

Melo and Bron sign for 15 millions, while Gay is getting 19,3 millions...

[WeGetRing2012]

hypothetically, if Lebron/Melo wanted to go to LA, could LA stretch out Kobe's contract so he makes less per year, for a longer period of time?

I don't think so because Kobe's contract is already signed. But I'm not sure if Melo/Lebron could do something similar.

[Ca$H]

Sixers trade Thad Young, J Rich, the 3rd and 10th pick in the draft for Kevin Love.

Sixers would have almost 40 million in capspace after the trade to sign Bran and Melo.

MCW
Bran
Melo
Love
Noel

[1~Gibson~1]

Since the lord "legacy" is brought up so much... are yall REALLY think that LeBron will take less money than Kobe? :lol

[SpecialQue]

Well, if we're going to seriously entertain this idea, all I can say is that anything is possible. The fact that the Lakers have apparently been working on this before Lebron and Melo opted out shows that they at least have a plan. Plus, even though it was a disaster, the Lakers were able to get Nash and Dwight for Bynum and a trade exception, so I know that Mitch knows how to get shit done. Yeah, Dwight didn't stick around, but seriously, that had more to do with personality clashes with Kobe than anything else. There would have to be other factors involved in having both Lebron and Melo on the Lakers, and I'm sure Mitch has that all figured out. It COULD happen, but realistically, it's not going to.

Then again, getting Nash and Dwight didn't seem possible either, so there you go.

[MavsSuperFan]

Can you imagine the Kobe and Lebron stans on the same side ... Its like when the US and USSR teamed up

[longtime lurker]

The Lakers Payroll next yr
Kobe - 23.5 mil
Nash (waived) - 3mil
Sacre - .9 mil
Marshall - .9 mil

Which puts our total payroll at 28.3 mil and leaves us with 34.7 mil in cap space. If Melo and Lebron sign for 15 mil each we would still be left with 4mil cap space and the full MLE exception (5mil). We also have the bird rights to Gasol and can go over the cap to sign him back.

Another question, can we sign Melo & Lebron to escalating contracts so that the money they sacrifice this year can be made up in the next 3yrs of their contract? So for example if they make 15mil this year but the following 3 years they make 22 mil their contract would still total the max 80 mil/4yrs.

You are a fvcking moron that gas no idea how the salary cap works

[SpecialQue]

Can you imagine the Kobe and Lebron stans on the same side ... Its like when the US and USSR teamed up

I already know how it would play out. Lebron stans would say that the Lakers are now Lebron's team, and Kobe stans would say that Lebron is taking the beta role to Kobe's alpha role. And god forbid they win a championship together. No matter who wins FMVP, this forum would be a nightmare.

[AnaheimLakers24]

lakers gona pay sponsors under the table to lure melo an bran with 50 million dollar endorsements

[scm5]

lakers gona pay sponsors under the table to lure melo an bran with 50 million dollar endorsements

Your username bothers me a lot

[guy]

Lakers are so incredibly dumb for signing Kobe to that contract, at least before seeing what would happen with Lebron and Melo. It may have still been a long shot anyway (doubt Lebron would want to go West), but they would've been the only team in position to sign both of them to a contract starting at $20M per year and leaving the rest for an old-injured past his prime Kobe and other pieces. Does anyone honestly think Lebron and Melo would want to sign with the Lakers for $15M per year while Kobe is making $23M per year?

[Fork]

Lakers aren't going anywhere with that contract they have with Kobe

[boozehound]

Did you not read anything I wrote??

Nash will be waived by THE LAKERS most likely using the stretch provision putting his cap hit at 3mil.

I'm asking if Melo and Lebron can sign escalating contracts to lessen the cap hit this year but make up their money in the following years of their max contract so that they wouldn't sacrifice anything.
no. Raises are capped and max contracts include the maximum raise. Melo would be leaving something like 50 million on the table if he signed a 4 year/70 million contract.

so, since its not a sing and trade, the raises are capped at 4.5% of starting base salary. with NY or sign and trade, its capped at 7.5%
melo starting at 15, 15.675, 16.35, 17.025 = 64 mil over 4 or 16 mil per
melo in NY. 22.99, 24.60, 26.20, 27.81, 29.4 = 131 mil over 5 years or 26.2

so hes leaving over 10 million PER YEAR on the table

And its not like hes getting that back in state income tax (like TX or FL). CA has the highest(? or close to it) state income tax.

[lilgodfather1]

Did you not read anything I wrote??

Nash will be waived by THE LAKERS most likely using the stretch provision putting his cap hit at 3mil.

I'm asking if Melo and Lebron can sign escalating contracts to lessen the cap hit this year but make up their money in the following years of their max contract so that they wouldn't sacrifice anything.
They can get 4.5% raises. Otherwise the Clippers could sign both for vet min, and the next year jack them up to max, so no it isn't possible.

As for the extending Kobe's contract idea. I have no idea. The 36 rule would come into play I think, which would kill that, although I could be wrong.

The only place that they can get max, and LeBron would want to play is Cleveland. It would take a S&T for Melo, or some serious moves by the Cavs front office, but it is possible. S&T is better for everyone involved though. Ny gets some assets, Melo gets max, and LeBron gets max.

Off the top of my head the Cavaliers non player assets are their own future picks, Miami pick, and Memphis pick. Of course Thompson, Waiters, Bennett, Zeller, etc as well. Could put together a good package.

[boozehound]

no. Raises are capped and max contracts include the maximum raise. Melo would be leaving something like 50 million on the table if he signed a 4 year/70 million contract.

so, since its not a sing and trade, the raises are capped at 4.5% of starting base salary. with NY or sign and trade, its capped at 7.5%
melo starting at 15, 15.675, 16.35, 17.025 = 64 mil over 4 or 16 mil per
melo in NY. 22.99, 24.60, 26.20, 27.81, 29.4 = 131 mil over 5 years or 26.2

so hes leaving over 10 million PER YEAR on the table

And its not like hes getting that back in state income tax (like TX or FL). CA has the highest(? or close to it) state income tax.
so, even if you knock that 30 million 5th year off (even though he wont get anywhere near that in 5 years), hes still taking 36 million less over the 4 years.

[WeGetRing2012]

no. Raises are capped and max contracts include the maximum raise. Melo would be leaving something like 50 million on the table if he signed a 4 year/70 million contract.

so, since its not a sing and trade, the raises are capped at 4.5% of starting base salary. with NY or sign and trade, its capped at 7.5%
melo starting at 15, 15.675, 16.35, 17.025 = 64 mil over 4 or 16 mil per
melo in NY. 22.99, 24.60, 26.20, 27.81, 29.4 = 131 mil over 5 years or 26.2

so hes leaving over 10 million PER YEAR on the table

And its not like hes getting that back in state income tax (like TX or FL). CA has the highest(? or close to it) state income tax.

Thank you I had to find out the answer myself! You're the only person who read the post.

I don't really want Lebron anyway but Melo could make tons of money here in LA from endorsements and upping his celebrity. But yeah I don't see either one them leaving that money behind while Kobe is making so much. I would rather Mitch go after Melo and use the rest of the money for a great supporting cast.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

The Lakers Payroll next yr
Kobe - 23.5 mil
Nash (waived) - 3mil
Sacre - .9 mil
Marshall - .9 mil

Which puts our total payroll at 28.3 mil and leaves us with 34.7 mil in cap space. If Melo and Lebron sign for 15 mil each we would still be left with 4mil cap space and the full MLE exception (5mil). We also have the bird rights to Gasol and can go over the cap to sign him back.

Another question, can we sign Melo & Lebron to escalating contracts so that the money they sacrifice this year can be made up in the next 3yrs of their contract? So for example if they make 15mil this year but the following 3 years they make 22 mil their contract would still total the max 80 mil/4yrs.

trade nash/sacre/marshall/#7 for future pick to 76ers/bucks

pay 18mil/yr to both

[WeGetRing2012]

trade nash/sacre/marshall/#7 for future pick to 76ers/bucks

pay 18mil/yr to both

I'm completely against trading the 7th pick just to clear of cap space for the possibility of signing Lebron and Melo. If anything wait until free agency starts to package whoever we picked + Nash to create room because I'm pretty sure Lebron isn't coming here. Also, there is a strong possibility Embiid slides and if we get him I would rather keep him over Lebron.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

I'm completely against trading the 7th pick just to clear of cap space for the possibility of signing Lebron and Melo. If anything wait until free agency starts to package whoever we picked + Nash to create room because I'm pretty sure Lebron isn't coming here. Also, there is a strong possibility Embiid slides and if we get him I would rather keep him over Lebron.

thats what i am saying. noway u trade before but have the trade ready so once we get work from Lebron + Melo do the deal

lol at keeping Embiid over lebron

[Bosnian Sajo]

Wtf is this kid talking about, the max Lebron can sign for is 4/80m op? He can sign a 4/94.7m, stop smoking crack.


Melo and Lebron won't come together. It'll be Lowry/Melo, or Lowry/Lebron, while trading Nash/7th for Thad Young and MCW.