View Full Version : Rodman or Melo?
Marchesk
06-24-2014, 01:49 PM
As a player (never mind Rodman's flamboyance), who do you think offers more value to a team?
MavsSuperFan
06-24-2014, 01:55 PM
Melo is better as a franchise player/first option
Rodman is a better piece for a stacked team
The_Night_Elf
06-24-2014, 02:01 PM
If I already have a star player that scores then Rodman. If building from scratch Melo.
imdaman99
06-24-2014, 02:08 PM
Rodman. Melo is a talented guy but he is no MJ or Kobe...as Phil already knows.
Rodman is a whackjob, but he would do anything to win the game. Couldn't score for shit, but defensively.
Meticode
06-24-2014, 02:14 PM
I'll take a prime Rodman. There's really been no other player like him in the league ever. The closest I think is Ben Wallace with the lack of scoring and the huge rebounder he was mixed in that with great defensive effort. Rodman had more impact on games that don't show up on a stat sheet than Carmelo ever has. It's hard to find those types of guys nowadays. The garbage man or dirty worker so-to-say. And Mr. Rodman was the best at it...ever.
Marchesk
06-24-2014, 02:14 PM
Rodman is a whackjob, but he would do anything to win the game. Couldn't score for shit, but defensively.
That's really the thing I'm asking. Would you rather have an all-time great rebounder and excellent defender, or top 3 scorer in the league, who's also a decent rebounder.
GimmeThat
06-24-2014, 02:16 PM
Value wise probably Rodman.
But I think I rather have my lockerroom with someone somewhat established like Melo, then I bring Rodman along.
That is assuming Rodman has already accomplished something in his career, in which he did quite early on if I am not mistaken.
Assuming both as Rookie, tough to not say Rodman knowing how his career will pan out.
Stringer Bell
06-24-2014, 02:21 PM
Rodman.
Excellent defender (2 time DPOY winner), one of the greatest rebounders ever. Everyone knows he wasn't much of a scorer, although he was somewhat decent in the late 80s with the Pistons with scoring, but people often forget he was an excellent passer.
Melo is an overrated gunner
Milbuck
06-24-2014, 02:28 PM
Holy shit Melo is getting underrated here...he's put up 28/8/3/1/1 on 56% TS the past 2 seasons, first player to put up 28/8 since prime Shaq. It's much easier to find a defensive big or a perimeter defender to cover up his defensive flaws than it is to find someone of Melo's offensive caliber to give Rodman's team some firepower.
Obviously if it's a team like the 96 Bulls with MJ and Pippen, you go for the elite rebounder/defender. If it's a team like the current Bulls, you go for Carmelo and don't think twice about it. But more often than not, I'm going with Melo.
Rubio2Gasol
06-24-2014, 02:28 PM
Depends on the situation.
Melo if you need scoring someone to score anywhere, anytime. Rodman if you have rebounding and defensive gaps. They're actually very close to the ideal 3/4 combination.
Flash31
06-24-2014, 02:39 PM
It really depends on the situation.
If your team needs an all around scorer that has to be guarded and can make plays on o or your team needs scoring---then Melo it is which works with
(Chicago,LAC,LAL,Mia,Ind,MEM) and generally teams that either struggle with offense or could use someone to take away the pressure and load from their top stars
If your team needs one of the goat defenders that's very versatile on that end and is one of the goat rebounders then Rodman it is which works for teams that need defense or rebounding
(Miami,LAC,Hou,OKC,BKN)
Rodman can defend anyone from a pg to C depending on need
and he can throw people off their games and eat up all the boards
The Best Fit for Carmelo for a Team is Chicago bc they have defense but not many reliable scoring threats or offense
would work great for Memphis,Indiana as well
The Best fit for Rodman for a team is Miami bc they struggle with rebounds and could use a versatile defender that can play d 1-5 and switch on whoever is needed
Hou,OKC would work great as well
JellyBean
06-24-2014, 02:47 PM
Rodman gives you more value to a team.
Kukoc
06-24-2014, 03:06 PM
If you want one who only thinks about rebounds then Rodman
If you want to rebuild then Melo
Very simple
cltcfn2924
06-25-2014, 04:41 AM
That's really the thing I'm asking. Would you rather have an all-time great rebounder and excellent defender, or top 3 scorer in the league, who's also a decent rebounder.
Detroits' most consistent scorer came off the bench. The whole team was focused on defense and rebounding, and crazy Rodman was the best.
JimmyMcAdocious
06-25-2014, 04:51 AM
Rodman is arguably the GOAT rebounder and defender in the history of the sport.
He wasn't just good even great. We're talking about possibly greatest here. That doesn't even include the other stuff Rodman brought to the table.
NumberSix
06-25-2014, 06:09 AM
5 rings
JohnFreeman
06-25-2014, 06:13 AM
Melo is getting underrated again..
Lebron23
06-25-2014, 06:20 AM
Melo is the better primary scoring option. You pick Rodman if you are playing in a stack team.
BoutPractice
06-25-2014, 06:35 AM
Yeah, it all depends on context.
If you're the current Bulls, you already have Noah so you don't need Rodman.
If you're say, the Sacramento Kings or the Cleveland Cavaliers, you definitely go with Rodman.
the mesiah
06-25-2014, 09:01 AM
I'm the GM , got first pick and HAVE to pick out of them 2, going to pick melo.u got to have a scorer to have at first that can put the ball in the hole and get me some
Points ..
chocolatethunder
06-25-2014, 09:33 AM
Detroits' most consistent scorer came off the bench. The whole team was focused on defense and rebounding, and crazy Rodman was the best.
Dumars came off the bench? No. Don't try and say Vinnie Johnson or Aguirre was their most consistent scorer. Isaiah and Dumars were easliy their most consistent scorers. Rodman and Laimbeer each averaged just under 10 rebounds a game. The only guy other than them to average over 5 was Salley. This is during their first title. There's no way you were alive to watch these games or you couldn't have possibly stated something this ridiculous. Rodman was way less crazy then and didn't have the rep yet for being crazy like he did later. He was just a good defender and rebounder and also had a rep as a flopper.
deja vu
06-25-2014, 09:59 AM
Rodman was a headcase and troublemaker. I'd pick him over Melo anytime of the day if I have someone who can rein on him.
Jasper
06-25-2014, 10:29 AM
As a player (never mind Rodman's flamboyance), who do you think offers more value to a team?
Melo is a scorer....
Rodman plays team bball in all facets
Jasper
06-25-2014, 10:30 AM
Let me rephrase that ----> who has the most wins ? and a HOF'er :confusedshrug:
GimmeThat
06-25-2014, 11:14 AM
Let me rephrase that ----> who has the most wins ? and a HOF'er :confusedshrug:
I think that if GM/Owners believe that Melo could outscore againts a team for you, that's legitimate reasons.
As to why he was able to accomplish that at the college level and not the professional level.
I'll leave it up to the interpretation of those words.
Lebronxrings
06-25-2014, 11:23 AM
Holy shit Melo is getting underrated here...he's put up 28/8/3/1/1 on 56% TS the past 2 seasons, first player to put up 28/8 since prime Shaq. It's much easier to find a defensive big or a perimeter defender to cover up his defensive flaws than it is to find someone of Melo's offensive caliber to give Rodman's team some firepower.
Obviously if it's a team like the 96 Bulls with MJ and Pippen, you go for the elite rebounder/defender. If it's a team like the current Bulls, you go for Carmelo and don't think twice about it. But more often than not, I'm going with Melo.
Yes and how far has that gotten him? People shit on love for putting up good stats and his team doing bad, so why not melo? The double standard is so freaking terrible.
OT, I would take rodman. He just offers more in both defense, toughness and mental distractions. Most of his skills can't be found on a stat sheet.
dunksby
06-25-2014, 11:31 AM
Melo as a #1 option, if I have a superstar on my team already then Rodman. Perfect guy to clean up the mess, bail out the superstar on defense and provide intangibles.
FatComputerNerd
06-25-2014, 12:18 PM
This should answer any questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qJiBVc4OT8
Rodman wasn't normally a big scorer because he rarely had to be with the teams he was on. He played his role, but if asked to he could have easily scored much more. He wasn't a terrible offensive player, and could finish well with a nice touch at the basket.
Obv. Melo would be the better choice for a #1 go-to franchise player, but if building a real "team", I take Rodman every time...even with his eccentricities.
Nowitness
06-25-2014, 03:22 PM
Melo > Worm; what could Rodman do besides score? At least Melo does the little things to win, such as box out, defend 99 feet, make everyone better...
Lebronxrings
06-25-2014, 03:28 PM
Melo > Worm; what could Rodman do besides score? At least Melo does the little things to win, such as box out, defend 99 feet, make everyone better...
dude i think you mixed up the names.
Smook A.
06-25-2014, 03:31 PM
If you have Carmelo Anthony, he gives you instant offense. His offensive game is elite.
If you have Dennis Rodman, he'd give you elite defense and a shit ton of rebounds.
Its tough to choose which player I'd want. If my team is a great defensive team and only needs offense (like the current Bulls) then I would obviously want Carmelo Anthony. I wouldn't even think about it. Now if my team was a great offensive team and just needed defense, hustle and rebounding then Dennis Rodman is the choice.
Marchesk
06-25-2014, 03:39 PM
I get that it depends on what kind of team you already have, but if you were an expansion franchise, which one would you take?
Nowitness
06-25-2014, 03:47 PM
dude i think you mixed up the names.
I stand by what I said.
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