If Wade plays his cards right, he could guarantee himself another $20 for his career.

[ZHAKIDD532]

Let's be honest, that dude is not going to demand another big contract 2 years from now. If Wade opts in for the next 2 years for the $40 million or whatever it is, he's never getting another big contract again. So if I'm Wade this is what I do:

Before opting out, I go to LeBron and Pat Riley and say I'll opt out, but I want a new deal. 5 years, $60 million. The Heat do it because it effectively cuts Wade's cap number in half this year and allows us to add another elite player to the mix. I do it because I guarantee myself a lot more money for my career. If that happens, there's almost not chance LeBron takes off.

[guy]

One problem with this which I don't think people have asked is would Wade even want to play more then another 2 years? I have a hard time thinking he'd want to play another 4-5 years even if it's not a medical retirement. And if it's not a medical retirement, he'd lose that money on the remaining years.

[boozehound]

Let's be honest, that dude is not going to demand another big contract 2 years from now. If Wade opts in for the next 2 years for the $40 million or whatever it is, he's never getting another big contract again. So if I'm Wade this is what I do:

Before opting out, I go to LeBron and Pat Riley and say I'll opt out, but I want a new deal. 5 years, $60 million. The Heat do it because it effectively cuts Wade's cap number in half this year and allows us to add another elite player to the mix. I do it because I guarantee myself a lot more money for my career. If that happens, there's almost not chance LeBron takes off.
he can only get a 4 year contract.

[AboutBuckets]

Let's be honest, that dude is not going to demand another big contract 2 years from now. If Wade opts in for the next 2 years for the $40 million or whatever it is, he's never getting another big contract again. So if I'm Wade this is what I do:

Before opting out, I go to LeBron and Pat Riley and say I'll opt out, but I want a new deal. 5 years, $60 million. The Heat do it because it effectively cuts Wade's cap number in half this year and allows us to add another elite player to the mix. I do it because I guarantee myself a lot more money for my career. If that happens, there's almost not chance LeBron takes off.

The new CBA mandates that you cannot do this for players who would reach age 35 during their newly negotiated contract to prevent situations very similar to this.

[BasedTom]

$20?

What's he going to buy with that, a used dvd?

[1~Gibson~1]

$20?

What's he going to buy with that, a used dvd?
He could not be cheap and buy a new one for $17.99 actually. I just did the math and he'd have 39 cents leftover!

[Mass Debator]

The new CBA mandates that you cannot do this for players who would reach age 35 during their newly negotiated contract to prevent situations very similar to this.
Wait, so what CAN Wade do? He can only get a max of a 3 year deal?

[r15mohd]

he can get a 4-yr deal now...and Miami WILL be offering him $50-55 mil. he gets paid an extra $10-15 mil to ride the pine (ala Manu) for an added 2-yrs while Lebron and company have him coattailed to more jewelry.

WIN:WIN situation!

[r15mohd]

One problem with this which I don't think people have asked is would Wade even want to play more then another 2 years? I have a hard time thinking he'd want to play another 4-5 years even if it's not a medical retirement. And if it's not a medical retirement, he'd lose that money on the remaining years.


Wade has expressed in being in the league for many years just as recently as the NBA finals...he'll take the 4yr then retire, seems his best option to me

[BoutPractice]

His value hasn't dropped THAT much :D

[r15mohd]

His value hasn't dropped THAT much :D


definitely has...his value is only high because of his Heat longevity, on the market he's not fielding more than $10 mil a year if he's even that lucky

we "owe" it to him :rolleyes:

[ZHAKIDD532]

$20?

What's he going to buy with that, a used dvd?
lol right meant $20 million.

I didn't realize there were rules for players over 35. What is the rule exactly?

And as far the 5 years go, I could be wrong, but I think if you're re-signing your own FA you can give him 5 years. If you sign someone else's you can only do 4. So like Deron Williams and Chris Paul both got 5 year deals by re-signing, but Dwight only got 4 years.

[HiphopRelated]

definitely has...his value is only high because of his Heat longevity, on the market he's not fielding more than $10 mil a year if he's even that lucky

we "owe" it to him :rolleyes:
A bum like Igoudala makes 12 mil per

People still don't understand NBA contracts

Wade's getting 15 on the market

[Derka]

One problem with this which I don't think people have asked is would Wade even want to play more then another 2 years? I have a hard time thinking he'd want to play another 4-5 years even if it's not a medical retirement. And if it's not a medical retirement, he'd lose that money on the remaining years.

Problem right now is people in this thread are ascribing what THEY want Wade to do, not realistically taking stock of the player's options. Wade's agents should be fired if they're not telling him "You have two years left on those knees. Take your money, call it a career and live large in Miami for the rest of your days."

The fact is there's nothing Wade can add to his legacy at this point that improves his standing in the GOAT shooting guard discussion. He's reached his zenith in terms of his career and his legacy. More jewelry for him is meaningless...its just rings he gets for his safe while Lebron takes all the shine. Its not Dwayne Wade's job to win titles for Lebron James' legacy.

Meanwhile, should he opt in and play less minutes let's say for these next two years and stay relatively healthy, he could easily land a 2 year/$12 million per at age 34 anywhere he wanted. Then he keeps his $42 million guaranteed, stays in the Top 5 shooting guard conversation and continues to get paid as one of the league's better bench scorers.

[r15mohd]

A bum like Igoudala makes 12 mil per

People still don't understand NBA contracts

Wade's getting 15 on the market

there's nothing to understand.

Iggy can sustain an 82 game season...Wade would be lucky to make 60 leading his own team, and then hoping he's capable of playoff contention.

if a team is paying Wade 15mil a season...it's popularity to fill seats, simply that

[AboutBuckets]

Wait, so what CAN Wade do? He can only get a max of a 3 year deal?

No he can get the 4 year, but teams can't sign a maximum length (5 yrs in new CBA) if it'll cross the 35 year old barrier.

Hypothetical scenario without this rule:

Wade is owed 40 mil over the next 2 years. Instead of having Miami take a 20 mil/yr hit on their cap, they restructure his contract so he earns 60 mil over the next 5 years. Now, at 12mil/yr as opposed to 20 the Heat have cap room to play with and sign Gortat in addition. Wade plays 2 years, realizes he's done and retires, and his contract is off the books and settled privately between him, his agent, and the Heat. Wade still played the 2 years he was originally under contract for, makes more money in total, and the Heat had the opportunity to manipulate their payroll to allow them to sign someone else. The dilution of a contract over a longer period + player retiring move is something that the NBA is trying to combat.

[dubeta]

Why not the Heat trick Wade into opting out (tell Wade they will give him another max) and then once Wade opts out leave his ass in free agency to pursue other free agents.

[R.I.P.]

$20?

What's he going to buy with that, a used dvd?

If he opts out, it

[Mr.Kite]

Why would he want to play another 3 years to make 20m. when he could get 40m in 2 years then sign a 3 year deal for about 30m

[Flash31]

Hmm,what would Wade want?

40 million over next two years but 0 Rings more with possibility of a contract be even under 10 million and on 2 year contracts from then on

or

possibly 20-45 million next 3 years with 1-3 more Rings and Counting
and his endorsement money and brand rising even higher


How is this even a q?
If Wade was smart,hed take a paycut which would guarantee Mia can field a better team and a bigger possibility of winning the Finals every Year which in turn WILL increase his brand,status,and bring him even more money from endorsements along with collecting more rings to his resume.

3 Rings and hes cool with just more money--come on

The Heat all took paycuts the first time to WIN
which increased all their endorsements and status when they did so it more than made up for it
And now,he has the chance to either pull a Kobe and cripple the teams flexibility and ability to improve or he can do a Duncan and be set at having a team thats even better and has an even better chance of winning every year and it takes the load and wear and tear off of him even more prolonging his career

[jzek]

He averaged 13, 3 and 2 in the Finals... he's not worth more than 8M per year.

[Derka]

Hmm,what would Wade want?

40 million over next two years but 0 Rings more with possibility of a contract be even under 10 million and on 2 year contracts from then on

or

possibly 20-45 million next 3 years with 1-3 more Rings and Counting
and his endorsement money and brand rising even higher

Bolded is just ass-backwards logic and everything that follows it is complete drivel and shit you made up in some fantasy world.

Here's the reality: he's never going to be a consensus Top 5 SG. Ever. The only way he gets in the HoF on his first ballot is if he's up against a weak HoF class. Otherwise, he'll get in on his second or third ballot. Lastly, the notion that he's going to take this drastic 50% pay cut, take an even less active role on the Heat just so they can keep Lebron and let yet another superstar put the Heat uni on and take even more of the shine...and despite all of that be more likely to land endorsements and marketing opportunities is just about the dumbest thing anyone has come up with.

His best play is to take the $42 million and that's 100% what his agents are telling him. If they're not they should be fired and possibly submerged in lava. Taking a huge paycut would be laudable, although the Players' Union would scream for his blood, but its not going to help his career or his legacy improve at all. Dwayne Wade has reached his zenith...he has done EVERYTHING a guy can do in this game...and he's got a guaranteed $42 million just staring him in the face.

This entire fiction spawns from the point of view amongst the bandwagon that it is Wade and Bosh's duty to sacrifice so that Lebron can get all the all-star help possible and win more rings. That's all this is.

[HOoopCityJones]

If they don't wanna pay him now after what he did during this run, they wont wanna pay him four years form now when he's even more broken down. That simple.

That's why he'll opt in and take the money.

What in Lord's name would give him faith in the team to re him up 4 years from now?

In four years Lebron is in his shoes , aging Vet looking for that last big payday , and if they do win more rings, trust me Wade is getting passed over for Lebron, if not getting traded to free up space so Pat can bring in another Star to take the load off Bron on the down curve of his prime.