Redoing the top 10 picks of the 2004 Draft

[Fiddlesticks]

1. Josh Smith
2. Dwight Howard
3. Al Jefferson
4. Andre Iguodala
5. Luol Deng
6. JR Smith
7. Kevin Martin
8. Devin Harris
9 . Jameer Nelson
10. Tony Allen

[Black and White]

You must be insane to take Smith 1st :biggums:


Dwight #1, Al Jeff #2

[russwest0]

Dwight Howard is too high but other than that, good list. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Jameerthefear]

lol

[christian1923]

Damn that was a shitty draft

[Fork]

lol

[Fiddlesticks]

You must be insane to take Smith 1st :biggums:


Dwight #1, Al Jeff #2
Josh Smith is an 17/9/4 guy who plays Elite defenses. Top 5 PF in todays game, show some respect!

[Le Shaqtus]

If you don't take Dwight at 1 you fail at drafting.

[Fiddlesticks]

Damn that was a shitty draft
arguably the best 2 centers in today's game and a top 5 Power Forward who is one of the best all around players in the League.....

[fatboy11]

Man, this place has gotten really, really weird. No wonder I don't post here much anymore. We have a poster than is obsessed with Josh Smith and a poster that thinks Zach LaVine is NBA-ready and going to be a perennial All-Star.

Was it ever this bad back in the late 2000s?

[Fiddlesticks]

Man, this place has gotten really, really weird. No wonder I don't post here much anymore. We have a poster than is obsessed with Josh Smith and a poster that thinks Zach LaVine is NBA-ready and going to be a perennial All-Star.

Was it ever this bad back in the late 2000s?
I'm not obsessed with Josh Smith...

[christian1923]

arguably the best 2 centers in today's game and a top 5 Power Forward who is one of the best all around players in the League.....
That's three nice players plus Iggy and deng lol

[Black and White]

Josh Smith is an 17/9/4 guy who plays Elite defenses. Top 5 PF in todays game, show some respect!


You do realise that Dwight has won multiple DPOY awards right?

[D-Rose]

Damn that was a shitty draft
...that's a pretty good draft actually.

[Fiddlesticks]

You do realise that Dwight has won multiple DPOY awards right?
Josh is quick enough to guard wing players. Dwight only clogs the paint and gets blocks.

[Le Shaqtus]

You do realise that Dwight has won multiple DPOY awards right?

Shhh, let sleeping dogs lie...

[Black and White]

Josh is quick enough to guard wing players. Dwight only clogs the paint and gets blocks.

Interesting, so tell me this, why is Josh Smith considered overpaid and barely top 10 at his position today? And Dwight is considered top at his position?

[Fiddlesticks]

Interesting, so tell me this, why is Josh Smith considered overpaid and barely top 10 at his position today? And Dwight is considered top at his position?
Josh Smith is top 5 at his position an it is because the center position is so thin. Heck if Josh played center he would probably be a top 5 center even though he would be out of position.

[ZMonkey11]

Josh Smith is an 17/9/4 guy who plays Elite defenses. Top 5 PF in todays game, show some respect!

And not one All-Star game. But hey, he was in the slam dunk contest doe.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Josh Smith is top 5 at his position an it is because the center position is so thin. Heck if Josh played center he would probably be a top 5 center even though he would be out of position.

And Dwight is top 1 at his position

[Black and White]

Josh Smith is top 5 at his position an it is because the center position is so thin. Heck if Josh played center he would probably be a top 5 center even though he would be out of position.

No,

Dwight
Al Jefferson
Davis (will end up a pf)
Duncan
Drummond

are all clearly better, he would not be a top 5 C

[RoundMoundOfReb]

1. Dwight Howard
2. Andre Iguodala
3. Al Jefferson
4. Luol Deng
5. Josh Smith
6. Kevin Martin
7. Trevor Ariza
8 . Jameer Nelson
9. Tony Allen
10. Anderson Varejao
...
60. Vassilis Spanoulis

[Fiddlesticks]

And not one All-Star game. But hey, he was in the slam dunk contest doe.
All Star appearances mean nothing, it's a popularity contest.

[Fiddlesticks]

No,

Dwight
Al Jefferson
Davis (will end up a pf)
Duncan
Drummond

are all clearly better, he would not be a top 5 C

If Smith played out of position the rankings would be:
Dwight Howard
Al Jefferson
Josh Smith
DeAndre Jordan
Andre Drummond (Marc Gasol)


the others you named are power forwards

[Black and White]

If Smith played out of position the rankings would be:
Dwight Howard
Al Jefferson
Josh Smith
DeAndre Jordan
Andre Drummond (Marc Gasol)


the others you named are power forwards


Smith better than Drummond and Gasol?????? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

This is ban worthy

[Fiddlesticks]

Smith better than Drummond and Gasol?????? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

This is ban worthy
no doubt drummond would be better a few years from now but Smith>Gasol for sure.

[Black and White]

no doubt drummond would be better a few years from now but Smith>Gasol for sure.

You are on your own if you believe that, but just to confirm things,

Smith plays PF right?

Aldridge
Griffin
Dirk
Duncan
Bosh
Ibaka
Z-Bo
David West
Anthony Davis
Kevin Love


are all better than Smith, thats 10 people already at his own position

[Black and White]

Also you can add Horford and Noah to the list of C's that are better than him :cheers:

[moe94]

All Star appearances mean nothing, it's a popularity contest.

What about All-NBA teams?

[ZMonkey11]

All Star appearances mean nothing, it's a popularity contest.

Dem coaches really care who's popular doe.

[Fiddlesticks]

Also you can add Horford and Noah to the list of C's that are better than him :cheers:
shoot, I forgot
Dwight Howard
Al Jefferson
Joakim Noah
Josh Smith
DeAndre Jordan

still top 5. Smith is better than Horford...

[Black and White]

shoot, I forgot
Dwight Howard
Al Jefferson
Joakim Noah
Josh Smith
DeAndre Jordan

still top 5. Smith is better than Horford...

He's not better than Drummond or Marc Gasol tho

[Fiddlesticks]

You are on your own if you believe that, but just to confirm things,

Smith plays PF right?

Aldridge
Griffin
Dirk
Duncan
Bosh
Ibaka
Z-Bo
David West
Anthony Davis
Kevin Love


are all better than Smith, thats 10 people already at his own position



Griffin
Davis (some consider him a center)
Love
Aldridge
Dirk
Smith

so Smith is top 5-6 range depending on what people see Davis as.

[Fiddlesticks]

He's not better than Drummond or Marc Gasol tho
yes he is....Gasol is barely better than Hibbert.

[Black and White]

yes he is....Gasol is barely better than Hibbert.

This has to be one of the dumbest comments I have seen, also, you are forgetting about context, Josh Smith would get raped if he played C.

[Black and White]

Griffin
Davis (some consider him a center)
Love
Aldridge
Dirk
Smith

so Smith is top 5-6 range depending on what people see Davis as.

Ibaka and Duncan are clearly better than Smith.

[Fiddlesticks]

Ibaka and Duncan are clearly better than Smith.
nope, they're just on better teams....

[Black and White]

nope, they're just on better teams....

Thats true, but they are still better, and if you want to try and change your argument and put him as an SF

LeBron
Durant
Melo
Paul George
Kawhi

are all better.

[Fiddlesticks]

Thats true, but they are still better, and if you want to try and change your argument and put him as an SF

LeBron
Durant
Melo
Paul George
Kawhi

are all better.
they are not better but i agree Josh would not be a top 5 SF, the position is too stacked and he doesn't have a consistent enough jumper to be a good SF on most teams and that is why he struggled this past season.

[Black and White]

they are not better but i agree Josh would not be a top 5 SF, the position is too stacked and he doesn't have a consistent enough jumper to be a good SF on most teams and that is why he struggled this past season.

So after all of this, why the hell would you think he should go #1 in that draft?

[Fiddlesticks]

So after all of this, why the hell would you think he should go #1 in that draft?
easily the best all around and overall player.

[CelticBaller]

Op is a ***

[Black and White]

easily the best all around and overall player.

Let me get you on record,

you think Josh Smith > Dwight?

[Fiddlesticks]

Let me get you on record,

you think Josh Smith > Dwight?
obviously it depends on the situation because the 2 are close but in a vacuum and at their current ages, yes. Don't forget Josh Smith never gets hurt.