BREAKING: Magic trade Afflalo to Nuggets

[D-Rose]

@WojYahooNBA 8s
Orlando is finalizing a trade to send guard Arron Afflalo to the Denver Nuggets, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

holy ****! 11th has to be involved...

[JohnFreeman]

:biggums:

[Smook A.]

Everybody going back

Tyson Chandler back to Mavs. Afflalo back to Nuggets... Wow I really thought Chicago was gonna snatch him up.

[DaSeba5]

Wow... I didn't see that coming :eek:

[D-Rose]

[QUOTE]@WojYahooNBA

[R.I.P.]

As usual the West gets better and the East gets worse. :lol

[Kidbasketball20]

56th pick ??!??! :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Droid101]

Next up, Metta traded to Lakers, Dwight traded to magic, Harden traded to Thunder.

[chazzy]

He's gotta have more value than that...

[Smook A.]

What!?!? that's nothing
Horrible trade. Nuggets got a huge steal out of that. Magic just got all their money robbed.

[NuggetsFan]

I will be sooooooooo pumped if we don't include the 11th pick. SO PUMPED.

[JohnFreeman]

Next up Allen, Pierce and Garnett traded to Boston

[DStebb716]

Wonder if Orlando is setting themselves up to take on some salary in a separate trade.

[Take Your Lumps]

Very interesting...gotta wait to see how the rest of the day shakes out to see what Orlando is up to here.

[DMAVS41]

**** this shit.

Now the Nuggets are going to be a contender to make the playoffs.

Silver has to fix these playoffs. This is getting absurd.

Interesting move now that Afflalo expires. Will he stay in Denver for sure? I guess if the Nuggets struggle next year they can move him at the deadline to a contender for assets, but they won't get back something as good as the 11th pick in a loaded draft.

Still have no idea why the Thunder didn't push hard for Afflalo last year or why the Magic didn't trade him last year. Seems even dumber now that the Magic were willing to trade him and the 4 and the 12 for the 1.

[hawksdogsbraves]

For a second rounder???

The Magic are retarded :facepalm

[EllisGW]

has to be another move

[DStebb716]

**** this shit.

Now the Nuggets are going to be a contender to make the playoffs.

Silver has to fix these playoffs. This is getting absurd.

Interesting move now that Afflalo expires. Will he stay in Denver for sure? I guess if the Nuggets struggle next year they can move him at the deadline to a contender for assets, but they won't get back something as good as the 11th pick in a loaded draft.

Still have no idea why the Thunder didn't push hard for Afflalo last year or why the Magic didn't trade him last year. Seems even dumber now that the Magic were willing to trade him and the 4 and the 12 for the 1.

They didn't trade the 11th pick... Read.

[NuggetsFan]

**** this shit.

Now the Nuggets are going to be a contender to make the playoffs.

Silver has to fix these playoffs. This is getting absurd.

Interesting move now that Afflalo expires. Will he stay in Denver for sure? I guess if the Nuggets struggle next year they can move him at the deadline to a contender for assets, but they won't get back something as good as the 11th pick in a loaded draft.

Still have no idea why the Thunder didn't push hard for Afflalo last year or why the Magic didn't trade him last year. Seems even dumber now that the Magic were willing to trade him and the 4 and the 12 for the 1.

Nuggets were always a contender to make the playoffs. Look at how many injuries we had last year. Missing Gallo + McGee the entire season. Held out Andre Miller and Lawson was hurt so Randy fcking Foye played PG. Nate Robinson was out.

A healthy Nuggets squad fights for the playoffs regardless of AA. Now healthy is a stretch when your 2nd best player is Gallo :lol

[DMAVS41]

They didn't trade the 11th pick... Read.

Holy ****ing shit!

What?

Is this confirmed?

I actually like Fournier a lot, but this is absurd.

If the Magic actually did this...

[Le Shaqtus]

This has got to be a set up for something, otherwise this is a horrible trade for the Magic.

[Take Your Lumps]

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/482177375414001664


Denver appears to be absorbing Afflalo into a trade exception. Orlando gathering flexibility, I guess. Feels like another shoe to drop.

[christian1923]

Bulls or thunder couldn't do this?

What does OkC's front office even do

[DMAVS41]

Nuggets were always a contender to make the playoffs. Look at how many injuries we had last year. Missing Gallo + McGee the entire season. Held out Andre Miller and Lawson was hurt so Randy fcking Foye played PG. Nate Robinson was out.

A healthy Nuggets squad fights for the playoffs regardless of AA. Now healthy is a stretch when your 2nd best player is Gallo :lol

Oh I agree...

Now it's just locked in as Afflalo can ball and gives them so much of what they need.

And if they keep the 11th...**** me.

I actually think they should move the 11 and get something real back and make a push with the squad they have if this is true.

I'm so confused though.

[NuggetsFan]

People sleeping on Fournier tho. He has some potential. Still beyond shocked we didn't give up 11, and terrified somebody left that part out.

[chazzy]

Holy ****ing shit!

What?

Is this confirmed?

I actually like Fournier a lot, but this is absurd.

If the Magic actually did this...
Right? Now this really makes me question why a team like OKC didn't jump all over this

[NuggetsFan]

Oh I agree...

Now it's just locked in as Afflalo can ball and gives them so much of what they need.

And if they keep the 11th...**** me.

I actually think they should move the 11 and get something real back and make a push with the squad they have if this is true.

I'm so confused though.

I think that's what they do. Probably feel after Lawson last year, Gallo coming back that they can make a push. I want them to keep the pick tho.

[NuggetsFan]

Oh I agree...

Now it's just locked in as Afflalo can ball and gives them so much of what they need.

And if they keep the 11th...**** me.

I actually think they should move the 11 and get something real back and make a push with the squad they have if this is true.

I'm so confused though.

I think that's what they do. Probably feel after Lawson last year, Gallo coming back that they can make a push. I want them to keep the pick tho.

[livingby3's]

West gonna be a bloodbath. Even more so than last season

[DMAVS41]

Bulls or thunder couldn't do this?

What does OkC's front office even do

If Afflalo could be had for something like this (and I still don't believe it)...then then Presti should be fired.

He had so many better assets. They didn't even have to trade the Dallas pick at 21. They could have traded their own pick, Thabo's expiring contract, and Perry ****ing Jones and it's a far better deal than this one for the Magic.

And gives them just as much, if not more flexibility...

[Rubio2Gasol]

Hennigan :lol:

Tank Activated.

Embid @ 4
Zach Lavine @ 12

[DMAVS41]

Right? Now this really makes me question why a team like OKC didn't jump all over this

I give up if this is accurate.

Presti should be murdered.

Hopefully things start making sense in an hour and we hear the rest of the story.

Regardless, the West is now just stupid. I don't even know where to begin...there are going to be 3 awesome teams missing the playoffs now.

[Le Shaqtus]

Hennigan :lol:

Tank Activated.

Embid @ 4
Zach Lavine @ 12

Heyyeellllll no, do you know how many Lakers fans will be chiding us if we take Embiid

"LOL CAN'T WAIT FOR HIM TO BE IN A LAKER JERSEY IN X AMOUNT OF YEARS"

[DMAVS41]

Where is that clown Jameer?

Holy shit...you still defend the Magic not trading Afflalo last year when he had 2 years left on his deal.

I told you his opt out would scare teams away for his rental status.

Could have had a first rounder, perry jones, and a 4 million dollar expiring contract.

And you might be in the top 3 right now if you didn't play him so damn much all year and watch him needlessly add 7.1 wins to your team.

Epic fail by the Magic. Just ****ing epic.

And Presti needs to get his ****ing head out of his ass. The Thunder would have won the ****ing title with Afflalo.

Clowns...and these people get paid to do this shit. Unreal.

[TMT]

What the fvck? Magic couldn't get anything better for their best player? :facepalm

I'm so confused as to why they would do this.

[Jameerthefear]

The GOAT making moves. I love it. It isn't over yet folks. This is only the beginning.

[Levity]

Haha at this trade for the magic. I dont think getting a late lottery pick for afflalo was out of the question at all. However, i like fournier's game. great at getting into the paint, and has decent size.

Makes you wonder who the magic will pick at 4.

[Le Shaqtus]

Haha at this trade for the magic. I dont think getting a late lottery pick for afflalo was out of the question at all. However, i like fournier's game. great at getting into the paint, and has decent size.

Makes you wonder who the magic will pick at 4.

As long as it's not Embiid or Smart.

[GimmeThat]

Hibachi!

[T_L_P]

Magic gonna be crushed when Exum goes in the top three.

[Meticode]

Damn, the Magic gave him up for practically nothing at least on the surface. Am I missing something?

[Quizno]

magic just got robbbbeeeeeddddddddddd

[NuggetsFan]

Man, the nuggets are going to be pretty scary next year, very athletic and young crew, can't wait to watch the western conference clash next season!

Nuggets were destroyed by injuries last year too. Be really interesting to see how they bounce back. Lawson had a big year last year and is pretty underrated. Gallo coming back, Nate, Shaw having another year. Just need to stay healthy.

Really curious to see if the Nuggets make anymore moves and what they do with #11. We also have the right to swap with NY in '16 that's a pretty valuable asset with Melo potentially leaving.

[Le Shaqtus]

Well if the Magic f*ck this up at least I still have the Bortles Jags and UCF

[DMAVS41]

Damn, the Magic gave him up for practically nothing at least on the surface. Am I missing something?

From what I've read it's that Afflalo being a 1 year rental essentially killed his value.

I posted about this all the time saying the Magic were stupid to hold him for two reasons;

1. He was adding wins to a team looking to tank
2. His value was going to drop because he'd only have 1 year left rather than 2


Both the Magic and Thunder failed horribly here. The Thunder would have won the title with Afflalo.

And the Magic would be sitting on, at worst, the 29th pick, Thabo's expiring contract, and Perry Jones.

And they might have a top 3 pick because Afflalo added wins and hurt their odds to win the lottery.

Just horrid...it's so bad I can't even get over it. Presti should be so embarrassed right now.

[Jameerthefear]

Well if the Magic f*ck this up at least I still have the Bortles Jags and UCF
Henni has a plan man. He's got this. No worries.

[Thunderfan86]

Bulls or thunder couldn't do this?

What does OkC's front office even do
Nothing,but being a bunch of closet homosexuals. This really pisses me off :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[DMAVS41]

Nothing,but being a bunch of closet homosexuals. This really pisses me off :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Seriously. I'm sorry Thunder fans.

Presti cost you a title this year. And cost you a chance at being the odds on favorites again this season.

Just horrible. I can't even begin to understand it.

And you guys had an extra first round pick so you'd still have a first round pick that Presti loves so much.

This is hilariously bad. I can't even comprehend how bad it is for the Thunder fans.

[Le Shaqtus]

Henni has a plan man. He's got this. No worries.

I really hope so, because on the surface this trade is absolute garbage.

[wally_world]

smh @ OKC :facepalm

[Jameerthefear]

I really hope so, because on the surface this trade is absolute garbage.
Eh. Its better than the thunder deal.

[DMAVS41]

Eh. Its better than the thunder deal.

No it isn't.

Especially when you factor in Afflalo adding so many wins last year.

First round picks are valuable...super valuable for a number of reasons.

And I actually like Fournier. I like him a lot.

[NuggetsFan]

Won't happen but how hilarious would it be if the Nuggets used 11 + AA to move up in the draft :lol

[alanLA92]

OKC should of gotten him when they had a chance. But nope draft picks mean so much even though you got great talent already from prior years. :lol

[gts]

strange trade for Orlando, feels like one of those we made a trade because people expected us to make a trade moves

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Fournier isn't that good... He's nice player off the bench, but I'm not even sure he has a sixth man ceiling.

[KyleKong]

Jameer finna to blow his brain's out

[gts]

Jameer finna to blow his brain's out

he'll miss

[bluechox2]

how the fuch do the nugets make good deals

[HylianNightmare]

Wonder if Orlando is setting themselves up to take on some salary in a separate trade.
This has to be it

[Le Shaqtus]

This has to be it

Watch that not be the case and we just made a dumb trade.

[crisoner]

Next up...LeBron back to Cleveland Bosh back to the Raptors and D Rose back to the Bulls.

[DMAVS41]

Next up...LeBron back to Cleveland Bosh back to the Raptors and D Rose back to the Bulls.

D Rose back to the Bulls honestly might be the least likely event here.

[crisoner]

D Rose back to the Bulls honestly might be the least likely event here.

Sad but true...lol

[aboss4real24]

lmao ppl acting like affalo is nuthn more then a decent role player

[bdreason]

Guess I'm just surprised nobody offered something better.

[DMAVS41]

Guess I'm just surprised nobody offered something better.

The Magic waited too long.

think about it from the other teams point of view. you get a 1 year rental and then you have to pay him like 10 plus million a year given this market.

if kevin martin and calderon are getting 7.5 million. Afflalo is getting at least 10.

So it's not worth the 1 year.

That is why moving him last year was so important. Teams like the Thunder would have or at least should have offered more because you get him for at least 2 years in the playoffs.

this way it's just too much risk for a 1 year rental for a good, but over-rated player in Affflalo.

The Magic ****ed up by not trading him at his peak value and allowing him to add wins to a tanking team. 7.1 EWA...10.2 EWA between Afflalo and Nelson. It' hard to explain using words just how stupid the Magic were last year.

[Cocaine80s]

...so what they trade him for?

[Levity]

does anyone think that they magic might turn around and try fournier + 4 and 10 to the cavs for #1?

fournier is still on his rookie deal, so in the long run, it saves a bit more money for the cavs than trading for afflalo. and fournier is more of an off the ball player than both waiters and afflalo.

or long shot, maybe to the bucks for #2, which insures themselves exum will still be on the board. then phi takes embiid at 3, and bucks get parker at 4?

[DMAVS41]

does anyone think that they magic might turn around and try fournier + 4 and 10 to the cavs for #1?

fournier is still on his rookie deal, so in the long run, it saves a bit more money for the cavs than trading for afflalo. and fournier is more of an off the ball player than both waiters and afflalo.

or long shot, maybe to the bucks for #2, which insures themselves exum will still be on the board. then phi takes embiid at 3, and bucks get parker at 4?

That isn't nearly enough for the 1.

[Levity]

That isn't nearly enough for the 1.

cant argue with that. but what about for the two? unless you think PHI takes parker at 3 (im thinking they want embiid), it seem like a good move, in my opinion. (granted, the magic want exum over anyone else)

[outbreak]

I just woke up. Was otis Smith rehired?

[outbreak]

So the rumour is we have a deal taking a higher pick which requires us to take on shit salary. Either that or we want to offer vucevic and harris contracts early

[Le Shaqtus]

So the rumour is we have a deal taking a higher pick which requires us to take on shit salary. Either that or we want to offer vucevic and harris contracts early

Hennigan better know what the f*ck he's doing, this looks whack

[Fork]

Why would they do this? There has to be more

[Jameerthefear]

So the rumour is we have a deal taking a higher pick which requires us to take on shit salary. Either that or we want to offer vucevic and harris contracts early
nice. resigning them early is very good. i know henni has a plan. i trust this dude. also, have we not learned this guy has an eye for scouting talent. in a year we'll be talking about how much the magic raped.

[DMAVS41]

nice. resigning them early is very good. i know henni has a plan. i trust this dude. also, have we not learned this guy has an eye for scouting talent. in a year we'll be talking about how much the magic raped.

not this time.

the magic already ****ed themselves over.

Fournier is nice though...although he could pan out to be nothing and off the team in 2 years in which case you would have removed a chance at the number 1 pick...and lost Afflalo...for "nothing"

Ouch!

[NuggetsFan]

nice. resigning them early is very good. i know henni has a plan. i trust this dude. also, have we not learned this guy has an eye for scouting talent. in a year we'll be talking about how much the magic raped.

Hardly. Fournier is a potential player but has no value right now. AA has value, Magic could have got a better deal than this. Most would have assumed the 11th pick was included.

Deal could work out perfectly for the Magic but it'll never be rape from a value stand point and Fournier was never going to get alot of burn on this Nuggets team which was evident this season.

[kurple]

how the fuch do the nugets make good deals
josh kroenke is a pimp

[stalkerforlife]

Well, I kind of understand moving Afflalo to open it up for Oladipo. Maybe the Magic draft a PG and start him with Oladipo at the 2?

Don't sleep on Fournier, too.

MAYBE not such a bad deal.

[kurple]

my favorite nugget returns. and we dont have to give up #11 :cheers: great day

i hope the fournicator does well in orlando. he has the skills to become very good


but was dissappointed he didnt do more last season.

[Jameerthefear]

Hardly. Fournier is a potential player but has no value right now. AA has value, Magic could have got a better deal than this. Most would have assumed the 11th pick was included.

Deal could work out perfectly for the Magic but it'll never be rape from a value stand point and Fournier was never going to get alot of burn on this Nuggets team which was evident this season.
do u think that if they could have gotten a better deal than they would have gotten it? do u think the exchange was like this:
"hey ill give u #11 for afflalo."
"nah ill just take fournier."
"k."
no. it didnt. henni knows what he's doing.

[outbreak]

Hardly. Fournier is a potential player but has no value right now. AA has value, Magic could have got a better deal than this. Most would have assumed the 11th pick was included.

Deal could work out perfectly for the Magic but it'll never be rape from a value stand point and Fournier was never going to get alot of burn on this Nuggets team which was evident this season.

Only thing i can think of that makes sense is if we have another deal requiring us to take back salary. The afflalo deal would make sense as most other teams would have had to send us back a contract, if for example say Houston were still shopping Harden in a move to clear cap space we would be able to send the 4th and 12th for harden without having to send them back much real salary. Dunno I'll wait and see how it pans out today, Hennigan obviously thinks have the cap space is important for something but some people here seem to be missing the poin that deals like the chicago one would have required orlando to take back a contract.

[Jameerthefear]

this is why hennigan is the GOAT. love this dude.

[NuggetsFan]

do u think that if they could have gotten a better deal than they would have gotten it? do u think the exchange was like this:
"hey ill give u #11 for afflalo."
"nah ill just take fournier."
"k."
no. it didnt. henni knows what he's doing.

I think he sat on AA too long. Has something else in the works maybe that requires dumping AA and took the quickest deal he could find. I'll be surprised if Orlando doesn't have another deal in the works and the Nuggets with the TPE just lucked out.

AA for a 2nd round pick and a prospect who holds little value is a bad deal from a value standpoint. Orlando either wanted to free up the back court, or has something else in the works. Two things that have nothing to do with Denver.

[Jameerthefear]

I think he sat on AA too long. Has something else in the works maybe that requires dumping AA and took the quickest deal he could find. I'll be surprised if Orlando doesn't have another deal in the works and the Nuggets with the TPE just lucked out.

AA for a 2nd round pick and a prospect who holds little value is a bad deal from a value standpoint. Orlando either wanted to free up the back court, or has something else in the works. Two things that have nothing to do with Denver.
henni probably sees an opening now that he didn't have before. afflalo was never off the trading block. dude is a genius.

[BlackVVaves]

I'll be interested to see what moves from the Magic proceed this, because on the surface this is a shitty ass deal. Second rounder and Fournier for a player in pretty high demand right now? That's horrible.

I'll reserve judgement until after draft night, maybe they make a move.

[longtime lurker]

Remember when people thought affalo would go for lamb and a first rounder :lol people on message boards are idiots

[outbreak]

Remember when people thought affalo would go for lamb and a first rounder :lol people on message boards are idiots
it was lamb thabo and a first, chicago had offered a first and a contract too. the logic to this trade seems to be that we didn't take back a big contract.

[DMAVS41]

I think he sat on AA too long. Has something else in the works maybe that requires dumping AA and took the quickest deal he could find. I'll be surprised if Orlando doesn't have another deal in the works and the Nuggets with the TPE just lucked out.

AA for a 2nd round pick and a prospect who holds little value is a bad deal from a value standpoint. Orlando either wanted to free up the back court, or has something else in the works. Two things that have nothing to do with Denver.

Especially when his value was obviously higher than that last year when he had 2 years left on his deal.

7 extra wins on a tanking team trying to get the first pick and Fournier for Afflalo...ROFL...you simply can't do worse than that.

[DMAVS41]

it was lamb thabo and a first, chicago had offered a first and a contract too. the logic to this trade seems to be that we didn't take back a big contract.

makes no sense though...thabo's deal was expiring...so what you say wouldn't impact anything.

and you can always move a first round pick.

[Olacinco]

Does any of u realize Oladipo and Fournier is pretty much Jordan and Pippen both as sophomores?

Pair dat with exum and dere unbeatable...

[Jameerthefear]

Does any of u realize Oladipo and Fournier is pretty much Jordan and Pippen both as sophomores?

Pair dat with exum and dere unbeatable...
Damn. Your right :applause:

[NugzFan]

this is why hennigan is the GOAT. love this dude.

Wait... Why is hennigan the goat?

[D-Rose]

So basically, the Nuggets used the trade exception they received from the original Afflalo deal....in a way, he got traded for himself :roll: :applause:

West is getting even stronger.

[DMAVS41]

So basically, the Nuggets used the trade exception they received from the original Afflalo deal....in a way, he got traded for himself :roll: :applause:

West is getting even stronger.

Think about this for a second...lets imagine that the Nuggets don't do anything else and they have Afflalo and they are healthy.

For sure playoff contender.

Pelicans are now a real playoff contender as well.

Mavs and Suns will both be better.

The only hope is that the Grizzlies decline...but even then it's doubtful as they fought through injuries last year and still won 50. And this is before teams like the Kings, Lakers, and Wolves figure out what they are doing and 1 or 2 of those teams could actually be good.

You are looking at, in no order really, the West being loaded with teams good enough to make the playoffs;

1. Spurs
2. Thunder
3. Clippers
4. Warriors
5. Blazers
6. Rockets
7. Mavs
8. Suns
9. Pelicans
10. Nuggets
11. Grizzlies

Again...that is 11 without the Wolves or Kings or Lakers being mentioned. And that could definitely change.

Silver has to change the playoff format immediately. It's getting out of hand and all these free agents need to realize this shit and go East.

And it makes stupid moves like the Pelicans going after Holiday with two ****ing lottery picks and signing Evans even more stupid. They should have cleared the books and taken Noel last year and gotten another top pick this year in a loaded draft and then started to build out the roster. They did it at least a year too early and now they have a really good team on paper that might miss the playoffs because of their conference.

That is what is so crazy...by the time the Pelicans get really good...all the players they have will be ending their contracts and they'll have to bring in another group.

Anyway...just a joke how unbalanced the league currently is. I can't remember it ever being close to this bad.

[stalkerforlife]

Hornets offered Henderson and 24th pick.

Magic must be HIGH on Fournier.

[DMAVS41]

Hornets offered Henderson and 24th pick.

Magic must be HIGH on Fournier.

Nah..it's the contract. They don't want to pay Henderson 6 million this year and 6 million next year while he adds wins to a team that will likely want to be bad again.

That is the thing. The Magic need to solely play all their young players...it seems like they are going to do that this year, but they should have done it last year.

I'd turn that deal down as well. They don't need Henderson coming in and playing minutes as he's not a part of the future of the team. Why take on 12 million from Henderson for the 24th pick? That doesn't make sense at all.

At least with Fournier they don't have to take back any salary and get to find out what they have with him and he absolutely would be part of the team going forward.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Think about this for a second...lets imagine that the Nuggets don't do anything else and they have Afflalo and they are healthy.

For sure playoff contender.

Pelicans are now a real playoff contender as well.

Mavs and Suns will both be better.

The only hope is that the Grizzlies decline...but even then it's doubtful as they fought through injuries last year and still won 50. And this is before teams like the Kings, Lakers, and Wolves figure out what they are doing and 1 or 2 of those teams could actually be good.

You are looking at, in no order really, the West being loaded with teams good enough to make the playoffs;

1. Spurs
2. Thunder
3. Clippers
4. Warriors
5. Blazers
6. Rockets
7. Mavs
8. Suns
9. Pelicans
10. Nuggets
11. Grizzlies

Again...that is 11 without the Wolves or Kings or Lakers being mentioned. And that could definitely change.

Silver has to change the playoff format immediately. It's getting out of hand and all these free agents need to realize this shit and go East.

And it makes stupid moves like the Pelicans going after Holiday with two ****ing lottery picks and signing Evans even more stupid. They should have cleared the books and taken Noel last year and gotten another top pick this year in a loaded draft and then started to build out the roster. They did it at least a year too early and now they have a really good team on paper that might miss the playoffs because of their conference.

That is what is so crazy...by the time the Pelicans get really good...all the players they have will be ending their contracts and they'll have to bring in another group.

Anyway...just a joke how unbalanced the league currently is. I can't remember it ever being close to this bad.

The Kings have the talent to be a very solid team too if they wind up pulling this Rondo trade somehow.

[NugzFan]

Nuggets adding a full starting 5 next season:

Nate Robinson, afflalo, Gallo, hickson, McGee

[DMAVS41]

The Kings have the talent to be a very solid team too if they wind up pulling this Rondo trade somehow.

Exactly.

That is why it's a wait and see. If that deal goes through and Love ends up on the Warriors.

Both the Kings and Wolves will be solid teams that will be over .500 in my opinion.

Just two more tough teams you have to play on any given night and one of them...Kings with Rondo for me...could definitely get hot and make the playoffs.

The list really could go 13 deep.

The only for sure terrible team in the West next year will be the Jazz.

[Black and White]

Weird trade from a Magic perspective as I thought they could get a higher pick, its obv a salary dump but still puzzling.


OKC dropped the ball here big time.

[MUGEN]

Well damn Nuggets got a steal here. lol the West just keeps getting stronger too

[Johnny Jones]

Magic :facepalm


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[MrC1991]

Afflao got traded for a scrub and a 56th pick? wtf lmao Denver got a nice piece though.

[Dbrog]

This is just rape plain and simple. Even if the magic did this as their 1st step in a much larger move, they could have at least got the lotto pick outa it. Just truly horrific. Fornier not that good. Afflalo was probably top10 SG this year.

[D-Rose]

This is just rape plain and simple. Even if the magic did this as their 1st step in a much larger move, they could have at least got the lotto pick outa it. Just truly horrific. Fornier not that good. Afflalo was probably top10 SG this year.
You can see how I thought in the OP it was for the 11th pick....crazy that's all they gave up. I need to see more, cause Hennigan is an excellent GM.

[BlackVVaves]

Exactly.

That is why it's a wait and see. If that deal goes through and Love ends up on the Warriors.

Both the Kings and Wolves will be solid teams that will be over .500 in my opinion.

Just two more tough teams you have to play on any given night and one of them...Kings with Rondo for me...could definitely get hot and make the playoffs.

The list really could go 13 deep.

The only for sure terrible team in the West next year will be the Jazz.

What's the rumored trade for Rondo?

[Nash]

am I the only one who thinks Fournier will turn out to be a good player?

[Thunderfan86]

We better have something up our sleeve


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[Wavves]

I don't get it.

I really like Fournier, but only him and a late late 2nd round pick for Afflalo? Afflalo should have been an all-star the season past.

Surely the Magic are going to make another move, but considering all the rumours we have heard about potential trades (Bulls 2 first rounder, Charlotte's 9th pick) they could have got much more.

[Dbrog]

You can see how I thought in the OP it was for the 11th pick....crazy that's all they gave up. I need to see more, cause Hennigan is an excellent GM.

Hmmm...if Hennigan is good, I'm just so confused at what he could be playing at here. Like, anyway you turn it, it seems to be bad.

[NuggetsFan]

am I the only one who thinks Fournier will turn out to be a good player?

I think he does. As soon as next season if given the chance he can have a really good year. Doesn't make sense because right now his value wasn't that high. Couldn't crack Denver's rotation consistently and beat out Randy Foye.

I think that's why people are shocked. For AA feels like you could have got a more valuable piece than current Fournier.

[kurple]

am I the only one who thinks Fournier will turn out to be a good player?
i hope he does

doubt he'll be the next manu, but i think he has a long career

[DMAVS41]

Weird trade from a Magic perspective as I thought they could get a higher pick, its obv a salary dump but still puzzling.


OKC dropped the ball here big time.

Presti might have cost the Thunder 2 titles here.

Definitely this past season...and depending on what they do this season...could cost them yet again.

Ugh...honestly it's one of the dumbest GM decisions ever.

Thabo, Fisher, Butler? Yea,...lets roll with that rather than trading Perry Jones, an expiring contract, and our 29th first round pick for 2 years of literally the perfect player for us.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[BlazerRed]

What!?!? that's nothing
Wtf.. how did OKC not offer something better than that?! :roll:

[DMAVS41]

Wtf.. how did OKC not offer something better than that?! :roll:

I've tried explaining this for a long time now.

The Thunder shouldn't trade for him now.

What is the point of getting a 1 year rental of Afllalo who you can't keep in the future anyway? All you are doing is not letting younger players like Lamb and Jones play more.

Last year though...they could have gotten two full years from him. They would have been the clear favorites to win last year and going into this season as well.

Then you figure it out with Reggie and Aaron after that.

But a 1 year rental for giving up a first round pick and a young asset? No thanks.

Presti just ****ed up so much here it's laughable.

The play for the Thunder now is to go get Meeks.

[BlazerRed]

I've tried explaining this for a long time now.

The Thunder shouldn't trade for him now.

What is the point of getting a 1 year rental of Afllalo who you can't keep in the future anyway? All you are doing is not letting younger players like Lamb and Jones play more.

Last year though...they could have gotten two full years from him. They would have been the clear favorites to win last year and going into this season as well.

Then you figure it out with Reggie and Aaron after that.

But a 1 year rental for giving up a first round pick and a young asset? No thanks.

Presti just ****ed up so much here it's laughable.

The play for the Thunder now is to go get Meeks.
Or Shumpert I guess is the rumors are correct.

[coin24]

Magic:lol :lol

Getting raped as usual:roll:

[DMAVS41]

Or Shumpert I guess is the rumors are correct.

Right...unless they think they can keep him. No point in doing it.

The Thunder are stuck now. I'm not even sure they can get Meeks.

And they have to worry about paying Reggie Jackson after this year as well.

I just don't think they can do anything. Only think they can do is sell Perkins/Collison expiring contracts to get help right now.

That is their problem.

[G-train]

Magic win this trade easily.

At a very basic level..... A good young prospect and pick 56, for a 29 year old (this season) high end role player, who gets injured every year now.
So Magic get a 10 year guard with potential (plus a pick), and Nuggets get 120-200 games of 12 ppg and a bit of solid play, then a bench warmer.

Some of you guys need to brush up on Team management knowledge

[Take Your Lumps]

BUMP :lol

[Done_And_Done]

Although he doesn't seem to do much other than score, Fournier appears to be playing pretty damn well for Orlando. From what I've spectated at least...

[Ariza4three]

****ing owned :oldlol:

[outbreak]

Hennigan keeps coming up gold

[Ariza4three]

Afflalo ('14-15): 10.8 ppg, FG%: 0.387, age: 29, salary: NT$ 7.5 M
Fournier ('14-15): 17.0 ppg, FG%: 0.505, age: 22, salary: NT$ 1.5M
:yaohappy:

[KDthunderup]

I reckon reggie jackson could be traded for afflalo at the trade deadline

[HylianNightmare]

he's turned out really solid

[outbreak]

he's turned out really solid

Same with the Payton pick and Gordon has shown a better shooting stroke than expected. Then there's picking up Harris and Vucevic as well. Hennigan's definitely got an eye for under used talent, we just need a star player.