Charlotte Hornets are a loser franchise

[niko]

They helped a franchise rival possibly keep their star player for two late 2nd round picks. Retards.

[BlazerRed]

Gotta admit, WTF?!

[NumberSix]

They helped a franchise rival possibly keep their star player for two late 2nd round picks. Retards.
Charlotte and Miami are rivals? How many fcuking rivals does Miami have?

[stalkerforlife]

Love the Vonaleh pick.

But trading Napier for that? WTF?!

[Real14]

I agree tha hornets are turrible

[El Kabong]

Got a shooter they wanted and got 2 extra picks for the swap. Not sure why people think it's so terrible.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Franchise rival? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Im so nba'd out]

If those picks pan out they will be in the league for a lot longer than lebron will be + Everyone doesn't fear lebron like you OP.

[Quizno]

the hornets never wanted napier. they wanted P.J. hairston because they need a shooter with size to probably take gerald henderson's spot. and they were able to get two free draft picks out of the heat at the same time. they did great and your post is stupid

[HEAT111]

Not a good time for the Knicks...we all know Niko :lol

[DaSeba5]

Rival.....?

[Collie]

All this freaking ruckus for a 24th pick. Maybe Cleveland should have taken him.

[BasedTom]

Charlotte Hornets drafted Kobe and immediately traded him to the biggest team in the league. Soon after, the Lakers won multiple championships.

Now the Charlotte Hornets drafted Shabazz and immediately traded him to the biggest team in the league. Coincidence?

I should work at ESPN with these nice facts

[NumberSix]

Got a shooter they wanted and got 2 extra picks for the swap. Not sure why people think it's so terrible.
Apparently, teams' main priority should be not their own interests, but sabotaging Miami.

[NumberSix]

Charlotte Hornets drafted Kobe and immediately traded him to the biggest team in the league. Soon after, the Lakers won multiple championships.

Now the Charlotte Hornets drafted Shabazz and immediately traded him to the biggest team in the league. Coincidence?

I should work at ESPN with these nice facts
That was actually the Pelicans franchise.

[zoom17]

Rival? lol what are you smoking OP.

[Jailblazers7]

It was a good trade for Charlotte. Sorry but taking a bullet for the rest of the league shouldn't factor into their plans.

[Collie]

Anyway, PJ Hairston is a better fit for the Hornets. Great shooter, great size and hometown boy.

[Goldrush25]

Well obviously MJ didn't want Napier. Why draft the kid and pay him if you don't want him?

I get what you guys are saying but it doesn't make business sense to do that.

[niko]

You don't help out the super teams for nothing. There's got to be a premium. Two worthless (literally) picks are not a premium. These are picks on guys if they missed out on would go undrafted because they are so high.

[hangintheair]

I like the trade. They got the player they needed and have an additional draft picks. With this deep draft you can still find gold in the 2nd round.

[Jailblazers7]

They got the wing they needed. How is that nothing? Why is it Charlotte's job to direct Lebron to Houston or something

[Duggrr]

There's like 2 rivalries in the NBA. Miami - Indiana had potential, but Indiana fuks up too much. Portland and Seattle were sort of a rivalry

[Goldrush25]

You don't help out the super teams for nothing. There's got to be a premium. Two worthless (literally) picks are not a premium. These are picks on guys if they missed out on would go undrafted because they are so high.

Well technically they got something.

Seriously, it's obvious Charlotte had no interest at all in Napier. They wanted Hairston. Instead of just picking Hairston at 24, they drafted the player Miami wanted, picked up a couple of picks, and got the player they really wanted later.

Miami doesn't have any assets but draft picks so that's really the best they could do. They could've tried to fleece Miami even more but they risk Miami telling them to shove it up their arse and then they're stuck with a player they didn't want in the first place.

Like others are saying, it's not Charlotte's job to screw Miami for the rest of the league.

[NumberSix]

They got the wing they needed. How is that nothing? Why is it Charlotte's job to direct Lebron to Houston or something
Charlotte got what they wanted plus some free extra gravy. Why the fcuk should they sacrifice themselves to c0ckblock Miami?

[DaSeba5]

I've seen numerous threads about this tonight. Why should a team focus more on c0ck blocking Miami than their own team's interests?

[coin24]

Id say the Knicks are the bigger loser franchise actually..

Charlotte looking good and they have cap space:applause:

+1 what rivalry??

[Real14]

Not a good time for the Knicks...we all know Niko :lol
Shut tha hell up:coleman:

[Real14]

Id say the Knicks are the bigger loser franchise actually..

Charlotte looking good and they have cap space:applause:

+1 what rivalry??
Yep that's Why we got your greatest coach right now.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Should be happy Hairston didn't end up in Miami. He would make Wade expandable and you have a new Big 3, with one player on a rookie contract.

[NumberSix]

Should be happy Hairston didn't end up in Miami. He would make Wade expandable and you have a new Big 3, with one player on a rookie contract.
But he's on a diet?

[RoTM]

If Charlotte just takes PJ then Miami just gets Napier on their own anyway. They actually hurt Miami by forcing them to give up some of their meager assets.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

But he's on a diet?

1) Wade is slowly becoming bigger than Melo. He's on the wrong diet if he is on one.

2) :oldlol: I was using that swiftkey shit all throughout the draft and I have typos all over the place.

[veilside23]

Franchise rival? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


i want to see if after the lebron era you would still be a heat fan...

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Id say the Knicks are the bigger loser franchise actually..

Charlotte looking good and they have cap space:applause:

+1 what rivalry??
All of this.

[GimmeThat]

they keep making small hits.

they haven't made any home run plays.

but they'll still be a playoff team because the talents there.


I just don't think teams can take them seriously because they don't have an identity yet. they make their bad decisions appear to be mediocore compared to others worst decision.

A philosophy, might just be what the great MJ needs to come up with for his team/franchise to pursue.


That whole we will not tank for picks, we will compete even into end of the season is out the window.

Congrats.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

they keep making small hits.

they haven't made any home run plays.

but they'll still be a playoff team because the talents there.


I just don't think teams can take them seriously because they don't have an identity yet. they make their bad decisions appear to be mediocore compared to others worst decision.

A philosophy, might just be what the great MJ needs to come up with for his team/franchise to pursue.


That whole we will not tank for picks, we will compete even into end of the season is out the window.

Congrats.
Al Jefferson was a Home run hit.

[veilside23]

jefferson + Vonleh ... is intriguing ... i hope kemba can pass the ball more..

i am really hoping hairston will do good for them. I am tired of henderson.

they made the playoffs last year i dont see why they wont do that again. Big Al is the best big in the east if healthy. thats how i see it ...

[RoTM]

jefferson + Vonleh ... is intriguing ... i hope kemba can pass the ball more..

i am really hoping hairston will do good for them. I am tired of henderson.

they made the playoffs last year i dont see why they wont do that again. Big Al is the best big in the east if healthy. thats how i see it ...

Vonleh won't be good immediately. He might be the kind of guy they realize is a franchise player six or seven years down the line.

[Real14]

All of this.
Toronto raptors:lol
Vancouver Grizzlies:oldlol:

[GimmeThat]

Al Jefferson was a Home run hit.

true, I tend to forget often times you need multiple home runs to win a game

let alone a series.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Toronto raptors:lol
Vancouver Grizzlies:oldlol:

Difference:

- Players WANT to play in New York yet the Knicks still suck.
- Knicks fans act as if they're entitled to winning, Raptors fans don't

Also, the Vancouver Grizzlies - now the Memphis Grizzlies - have been VASTLY more successful than the Knicks over recent years.

[GimmeThat]

Vonleh won't be good immediately. He might be the kind of guy they realize is a franchise player six or seven years down the line.


Alright, I'm just going to say it now.

I hope he isn't just another Tyrus Thomas.

[Real14]

Difference:

- Players WANT to play in New York yet the Knicks still suck.
- Knicks fans act as if they're entitled to winning, Raptors fans don't

Also, the Vancouver Grizzlies - now the Memphis Grizzlies - have been VASTLY more successful than the Knicks over recent years.
Knicks had one bad year while raptors had several prior to 2014. Memphis Grizzlies iz still Memphis Tennessee not Vancouver, Canada huge difference:oldlol:

[RoTM]

Alright, I'm just going to say it now.

I hope he isn't just another Tyrus Thomas.

I don't see it really. Tyrus masked a low IQ and lack of skills with super athleticism. Vonleh just looks like a pretty average young inexperienced big with great measurables and an above average stroke. I think he pans out eventually if hes healthy.

[EwingMan]

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this is a pretty pathetic sentiment; miami's gain isn't charlotte's loss. (maybe, at the very most, it makes two games more difficult for the hornets in the regular season- not sure that isn't worth what they picked up).

[Leroy Jetson]

Difference:

- Players WANT to play in New York yet the Knicks still suck.
- Knicks fans act as if they're entitled to winning, Raptors fans don't

Also, the Vancouver Grizzlies - now the Memphis Grizzlies - have been VASTLY more successful than the Knicks over recent years.
I love the city of Vancouver and really wanted that team to succeed there, but they were terrible at drafting.

[Jailblazers7]

they keep making small hits.

they haven't made any home run plays.

but they'll still be a playoff team because the talents there.


I just don't think teams can take them seriously because they don't have an identity yet. they make their bad decisions appear to be mediocore compared to others worst decision.

A philosophy, might just be what the great MJ needs to come up with for his team/franchise to pursue.


That whole we will not tank for picks, we will compete even into end of the season is out the window.

Congrats.

I honestly love the way that Charlotte has built their team up. Better drafting and trying to target undervalued free agents. You have to respect the no tanking policy and it seems to be working reasonably well.

[Lebron23]

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[BlackVVaves]

That was actually the Pelicans franchise.

Actually, when the Hornets franchise was rebooted, they received all of the original Charlotte Hornets records and franchise history, in addition to the Bobcats history.

The Pelicans' history after the re-boot will have officially begun in 2012-2013.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Actually, when the Hornets franchise was rebooted, they received all of the original Charlotte Hornets records and franchise history, in addition to the Bobcats history.

The Pelicans' history after the re-boot will have officially begun in 2012-2013.
That's so confusing... Say the Hornets want to retire Chris Paul's (or any other great player's) number down the line.. Which franchise retires it?

[BlackVVaves]

That's so confusing... Say the Hornets want to retire Chris Paul's (or any other great player's) number down the line.. Which franchise retires it?

Good question, he was drafted by the New Orleans/OKC Hornets IIRC? If that's the case, since that is considered New Orleans history and not Charlotte, I'd say he'd be retired by the Pelicans, even though technically their tenure didn't begin until 2012.

Confusing indeed :wtf:

[rufuspaul]

The likelihood of LeBron staying in Miami was very high without Napier. Rich Cho saw an opportunity to get the guy he wanted plus some extra assets. He then turned the 2nd round picks into dumping Brendan Haywood's contract on Cleveland and getting cash from both Miami and OKC plus future picks. Very smart move. The Hornet's get the guy they wanted all along plus they open up more cap space for free agency. Those picks were literally worth millions. Genius.

[irondarts]

If Charlotte just takes PJ then Miami just gets Napier on their own anyway. They actually hurt Miami by forcing them to give up some of their meager assets.
Pretty much this.

This thread is pointless.

[GimmeThat]

I honestly love the way that Charlotte has built their team up. Better drafting and trying to target undervalued free agents. You have to respect the no tanking policy and it seems to be working reasonably well.

They play very contained, their offense probably still lacks, but for the fact that they were able to make the playoff says something about their defense.

I think a Jr Smith/Nate Robinson type bench scorer could do wonders for them.

Just a little bit of spark when the team goes stagnent, since they probably don't go stagnent on the defensive end.

[ZHAKIDD532]

Did this trade happen because Houston was going to take Napier to lure LeBron?

[Jailblazers7]

And Lebron's decision shows why a team like Charlotte shouldn't factor in the free agents decisions of others team into their moves. In fact, the Hornets used the Lebron situation as leverage to make a smart move.