Wavves's 2014 NBA Drafts Winners and Losers

[Wavves]

With a loaded draft, a lot of the NBA teams won today, it was hard to lose. Cleveland and Milwaukee got what they hope to be the next big things, and other teams picked up nice solid pieces. Here is a list of a couple of teams who I believe were some of the biggest winners today.

Winners:

Philadelphia 76ers - You may be thinking "wait a second, how can a team whose two draft picks won't even play next season be winners?". You are right in thinking that, but to exit the draft with a potential GREAT bigman in Joel Embiid, be able to stash a great international prospect in Dario Saric and finally get another future first.... The 76ers are sure to be one of the worst teams in the league again next season, but pair next years expected high lottery pick with this years stash of prospects and the future looks extremely bright in Philadelphia. (Don't forget about the ROY in MCW and Nerlens Noel as well)

Miami Heat -The Heat went into the draft wanting one player. They didn't draft him, but they got him. Shabazz Napier lands in Miami and could be the Heat starter at PG from day one. Shabazz won't be the final straw that makes Lebron decide to stay, but it helps. Shabazz will give Lebron some relief while on the floor as he is able to take over ball handling duties. Selecting a leader and a winner makes Miami a winner.

San Antonio Spurs - To pick up a player the quality of Kyle Anderson whom I had mocked at #15 is a major steal for the Spurs. Anderson is a very unique talent, who is a terrific ball handler and passer of the rock. I cannot wait until next season to see how the Spurs use him in offense. It sure will be fun and creative.

Losers:

Orlando Magic - Giving up a future first and a second just to move up two spots? Elfrid Payton is one of my favourite players in the draft and he could potentially be worth it, but to also somewhat reach on Gordon a player who may just be a defense and energy guy in the league. Oh, and don't forget they gave up the should of been an all-star last season Aaron Afflalo earlier for not much at all. The Magic are the big losers of the draft. Something we didn't expect for a team whose management seemed to be on fire lately.

Toronto Raptors - Bruno Caboclo would have been avaliable in the 2nd round. I don't know how good this kid could be, and I actually respect the Raptors organization for identifying their guy and taking him, but at least try to trade down? Why not give Miami a call at least, we all knew they were looking to trade up. We'll see with this pick, but for now... eh.
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[russwest0]

That Bruno kid is reportedly 6'9 with a 7'7 wingspan. I don't see what is so bad with that pick. His potential is insane.

[hawksdogsbraves]

That Bruno kid is reportedly 6'9 with a 7'7 wingspan. I don't see what is so bad with that pick. His potential is insane.

Because he won't be here for FOUR years, and they could have gotten him 20 picks later.

[Wavves]

That Bruno kid is reportedly 6'9 with a 7'7 wingspan. I don't see what is so bad with that pick. His potential is insane.
He sounds like a good prospect, but it is considered a 'bad pick' because it was a big reach. Could of gotten him much later.

[russwest0]

Because he won't be here for FOUR years, and they could have gotten him 20 picks later.

That four year shit is overstated. So some ESPN analyst made that comment about 2 years until 2 years and then Bill Simmons tried to make a joke out of it. Doesn't mean shit.

He'll now be training in an NBA development system and probably progressing much faster than he ever would have without NBA trainers working with him. Who knows how long it will take him to be ready.

And regardless you don't try and predict where a player will or won't go and risk losing him. You take the man at the top of your board. Period.

[outbreak]

in before gordon and payton turn into super stars.

I hope.

Please happen.

Please.....



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[hawksdogsbraves]

That four year shit is overstated. So some ESPN analyst made that comment about 2 years until 2 years and then Bill Simmons tried to make a joke out of it. Doesn't mean shit.

He'll now be training in an NBA development system and probably progressing much faster than he ever would have without NBA trainers working with him. Who knows how long it will take him to be ready.

And regardless you don't try and predict where a player will or won't go and risk losing him. You take the man at the top of your board. Period.

Ok then by your logic no player could ever be a reach. In fact, by your logic, there's no such THING as a reach. You could pick Mitch McGary number one overall and if he's at the top of your board, it was a good pick.

[Jameerthefear]

who do u think the magic should have picked at 4 then?

[outbreak]

who do u think the magic should have picked at 4 then?

exum, randle, vonleh or even smart would have be a better choices. Hell even trade the pick if we don't like any of those players.

[Jameerthefear]

exum, randle, vonleh or even smart would have be a better choices. Hell even trade the pick if we don't like any of those players.
meh. we don't know this yet. the only thing i don't like is that we gave up a future first for payton. what the fvck was henni thinking...

[Wavves]

who do u think the magic should have picked at 4 then?
I thought Exum was the way to go. Even though I like Payton giving up another 1st hurts and if your banking on Gordon to be a star then that is a big risk. He may never be that big of a danger on the offensive end.

I just like Exum's potential much more.

[beastee]

meh. we don't know this yet. the only thing i don't like is that we gave up a future first for payton. what the fvck was henni thinking...

Wait, this afternoon you said Henni was a genius, and he had a plan. I guess his plan was to have a horrible draft and give away the future with a #1 pick? Good luck with that mastermind...

[Jameerthefear]

I thought Exum was the way to go. Even though I like Payton giving up another 1st hurts and if your banking on Gordon to be a star then that is a big risk. He may never be that big of a danger on the offensive end.

I just like Exum's potential much more.
I 100% agree on Payton. But how much of Exum have you watched? Do you know anything about him other than he's really hyped by some and dissed by some and he's big with slightly above average athleticism? People keep saying "You guys should have picked Exum." Based on what? The Magic scouted him more than any other team in the draft. They saw Gordon over him. Most people haven't even watched one game that Exum has played.

[Im so nba'd out]

only thing we won is more lottery picks for the next 5 years :mad:
i gurantee the magic will be better than us every year for the next 5 years book it............












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[Jameerthefear]

Wait, this afternoon you said Henni was a genius, and he had a plan. I guess his plan was to have a horrible draft and give away the future with a #1 pick? Good luck with that mastermind...
We have another pick that year. How is picking up Gordon and Payton a horrible draft? People are saying Exum>Gordon and I'm like "wtf". No one knows that.

[Wavves]

Philadelphia picks up KJ McDaniels in the second round too. They are my big winners this draft.

[Magic731]

I would have loved to have seen an Exum-Oladipo backcourt. GOAT named backcourt.

[outbreak]

We have another pick that year. How is picking up Gordon and Payton a horrible draft? People are saying Exum>Gordon and I'm like "wtf". No one knows that.

i think gordon will be a decent starter but we passed on players who could have been franchise players

[russwest0]

Ok then by your logic no player could ever be a reach. In fact, by your logic, there's no such THING as a reach. You could pick Mitch McGary number one overall and if he's at the top of your board, it was a good pick.

If Mitch McGary is at the top of your board then you probably aren't employed by an NBA team.

[Wavves]

I 100% agree on Payton. But how much of Exum have you watched? Do you know anything about him other than he's really hyped by some and dissed by some and he's big with slightly above average athleticism? People keep saying "You guys should have picked Exum." Based on what? The Magic scouted him more than any other team in the draft. They saw Gordon over him. Most people haven't even watched one game that Exum has played.
I'm one of the rare people who have watched him play. :oldlol:

I watched him turn the ball over 4 times in like 11 minutes against Marcus Smart in the U19s so I'm not even as high on him as others seem to be, but he just drools potential. I can see him becoming a star. A legit superstar.

I also like the fit with him and the Magic team, amd thought he and Oladipo could coexist and make it work.

[Black and White]

I felt like we drafted well.

[Wavves]

Definitely man.

I love Boston picking up James Young, I thought that was a great pick. Marcus Smart is a stud too. Defensively you'll be great.

Do you think Rondo will be traded?

[Black and White]

Definitely man.

I love Boston picking up James Young, I thought that was a great pick. Marcus Smart is a stud too. Defensively you'll be great.

Do you think Rondo will be traded?

I really don't see how we would keep Rondo after drafting Smart, Bradley has to stay, can't have Smart and Rondo as a back court because there isn't enough shooting ability.

It makes me sad but I know we have to part with him, probably for a young C and/or some picks.

[ZHAKIDD532]

Honsestly, I think the Magic did really well. They got 2 really good players IMO. They basically just gave the Sixers their first rounder back to make sure they got Payton.

Payton
Oladipo
Gordon
Vucevic

That's 4 really good players together that could be really tough on defense. Still don't get trading Afflalo though.

[Meticode]

So there were 3 winners and two losers? Okay...

[Jameerthefear]

Honsestly, I think the Magic did really well. They got 2 really good players IMO. They basically just gave the Sixers their first rounder back to make sure they got Payton.

Payton
Oladipo
Gordon
Vucevic

That's 4 really good players together that could be really tough on defense. Still don't get trading Afflalo though.
the reason for that afflalo trade is what i'm waiting on. i'm waiting for SOMETHING. some reason.

[Wavves]

Honsestly, I think the Magic did really well. They got 2 really good players IMO. They basically just gave the Sixers their first rounder back to make sure they got Payton.

Payton
Oladipo
Gordon
Vucevic

That's 4 really good players together that could be really tough on defense. Still don't get trading Afflalo though.
I honestly think their were no losers in the draft, there just had to be one for my pieces sake :oldlol:

Orlando is building a great young team, they are just considered 'losers' because I fell as of they could have done better.

[Black and White]

the reason for that afflalo trade is what i'm waiting on. i'm waiting for SOMETHING. some reason.

Being honest I think it was just a salary dump.

[outbreak]

Honsestly, I think the Magic did really well. They got 2 really good players IMO. They basically just gave the Sixers their first rounder back to make sure they got Payton.

Payton
Oladipo
Gordon
Vucevic

That's 4 really good players together that could be really tough on defense. Still don't get trading Afflalo though.


we still really need a star though, I think the guys we got are decent but we really should have taken a risk with the fourth on a star calibre player not a good defender who may or may not ever develop an offensive game that is more than dunks.

[Wavves]

So there were 3 winners and two losers? Okay...
Write your own piece then.

I didn't want to go through every single team that drafted, I chose just who I believed were the biggest winners/losers.

[outbreak]

Being honest I think it was just a salary dump.
yeah dump so they can offer harris and vucevic new contracts early.

[JohnFreeman]

I am happy. Great shooter, surprisingly athletic and his handles are better then I thought.

[Black and White]

yeah dump so they can offer harris and vucevic new contracts early.

I really think Hennigan dropped the ball on not picking Exum, those two in the back court would have been special.

[Jameerthefear]

yeah dump so they can offer harris and vucevic new contracts early.
i'm cool with that.

[beastee]

Jameer, you have an entire thread devoted to advanced stats and gameplay devoted to Exum...but now you think Payton could be better. :wtf: Stick to your guns man. Gordon at 4 was just too damn high. So much talent still available. They could have potentially gotten Gordon at 12. Or picked Exum at 4 and traded up slightly to get Gordon around 8-9. That is my problem with their draft. Always take best Available, not need based. I feel they reached. We shall see in 2-3 years I guess.

[Wavves]

I am happy. Great shooter, surprisingly athletic and his handles are better then I thought.
I really like Stauskas, but I'm not sure why the Kings went with him.

With three 20+ point scorers, you needed a player to help distribute the ball. I thought Elfrid Payton would of been a great pick.

[ZHAKIDD532]

we still really need a star though, I think the guys we got are decent but we really should have taken a risk with the fourth on a star calibre player not a good defender who may or may not ever develop an offensive game that is more than dunks.
The the Magic need is a veteran. It's super difficult for a young team like that to take the next step without a few guys who've been there before. Think David West in Indiana type move.

[JohnFreeman]

I really like Stauskas, but I'm not sure why the Kings went with him.

With three 20+ point scorers, you needed a player to help distribute the ball. I thought Elfrid Payton would of been a great pick.
I think some trades are coming

[Meticode]

Write your own piece then.

I didn't want to go through every single team that drafted, I chose just who I believed were the biggest winners/losers.
Fair enough.

[Real14]

knicks are winnerz too:applause:

[outbreak]

I really think Hennigan dropped the ball on not picking Exum, those two in the back court would have been special.

yeah me too, just think we should have taken the risk.

And yeah we need vets too before we compete but that wouldn't have been until next off season

[KDthunderup]

Magic were clear losers

[Wavves]

knicks are winnerz too:applause:
Sneaks into the 2nd round, and steals a good player in Cleanthony.

The Knicks did very well for what little they had :cheers:

[Black and White]

yeah me too, just think we should have taken the risk.

And yeah we need vets too before we compete but that wouldn't have been until next off season

I just don't understand how you could be blown away by a dudes workout, and then reports come out that teams that have higher picks were interested in him also, and then come draft night, the consensus "big 3" are taken and the man you were blown away by is available and you pass on him to draft a guy that was expected to go between 8-10???

[Jameerthefear]

gordon was 4-7. not 8-10

[Real14]

Sneaks into the 2nd round, and steals a good player in Cleanthony.

The Knicks did very well for what little they had :cheers:
amen to dat, all we gotta do iz keep melo:cheers:

[BlackVVaves]

I really think Hennigan dropped the ball on not picking Exum, those two in the back court would have been special.

Same here. Really liked him next to Oladipo.

[Black and White]

gordon was 4-7. not 8-10

I saw Randle, Vonleh and Smart on most peoples mock drafts going higher than him.

[Wavves]

I saw Randle, Vonleh and Smart on most peoples mock drafts going higher than him.
Up until probably yesterday that was the case.

There was a lot of rumours going around that a lot of teams had Gordon as their #1 PF on their board. I still had Randle as my #1.

[Black and White]

Up until probably yesterday that was the case.

There was a lot of rumours going around that a lot of teams had Gordon as their #1 PF on their board. I still had Randle as my #1.

Position wise for sure, but the PF spot isn't stacked in this draft anyway.

Wiggins
Parker
Embiid
Exum
Randle
Vonleh
Smart

were mostly seen as going higher, which puts him at #8

[outbreak]

I just don't understand how you could be blown away by a dudes workout, and then reports come out that teams that have higher picks were interested in him also, and then come draft night, the consensus "big 3" are taken and the man you were blown away by is available and you pass on him to draft a guy that was expected to go between 8-10???

yeah I don't know maybe they used that as a smoke screen. Who knows all I can do now is hope he pans out and develops a jump shot or a go to post move. He has the tools to contribute defensively but I was hoping for more than that this year.

[Jameerthefear]

also mocks don't really matter regardless.

[Wavves]

Position wise for sure, but the PF spot isn't stacked in this draft anyway.

Wiggins
Parker
Embiid
Exum
Randle
Vonleh
Smart

were mostly seen as going higher, which puts him at #8
I agree.

I actually had him mocked at the #8 spot to the Kings

[QUOTE]#8. Sacramento Kings

[Black and White]

yeah I don't know maybe they used that as a smoke screen. Who knows all I can do now is hope he pans out and develops a jump shot or a go to post move. He has the tools to contribute defensively but I was hoping for more than that this year.

Theres nothing that can be done about it now, but the main reason why I think the gamble would have paid off was because of the 2015 off-season for you guys, you can sign your vet there.

[Wavves]

^^^ lucky I didn't bet on it by the way, I'd be even more poorer than what I am at the moment. :oldlol:

[Black and White]

^^^ lucky I didn't bet on it by the way, I'd be even more poorer than what I am at the moment. :oldlol:

:oldlol: good point, other than that shocker tho, most of the other picks were solid in the top 6-7

[Jameerthefear]

the only reason i'm disappointed is because all of the reports got me really hyped up. if hennigan saw the opputunity to go for maybe Exum then trade up with AA to get Gordon I feel like he would have. hennigan was tight lipped the whole process obviously. all the reports were bullshit.

[Meticode]

also mocks don't really matter regardless.
Waste of time when it's all said and done, because the draft just happened and all those mocks mean jack shit now.

[Wavves]

:oldlol: good point, other than that shocker tho, most of the other picks were solid in the top 6-7
I picked all the players that went in the lottery to go lottery, and other than the Nick Stauskas pick, none of the picks really shocked me at all.

Usually in a draft you can spot out a couple of players who might bust, but this one it's really hard to do that. I can see everyone being contributors at some point at least.

[outbreak]

I picked all the players that went in the lottery to go lottery, and other than the Nick Stauskas pick, none of the picks really shocked me at all.

Usually in a draft you can spot out a couple of players who might bust, but this one it's really hard to do that. I can see everyone being contributors at some point at least.

yeah people were making fun during the week about it not being as deep as people claimed because they didn't think wiggins and parker would be true stars, the depth comes into it when you look at guys all through the top 20 or so picks who can contribute in some way.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Lakers got the only freshman to actually take his team somewhere in the tourney. (I don't really blame Wiggins)

Very happy

[Wavves]

yeah people were making fun during the week about it not being as deep as people claimed because they didn't think wiggins and parker would be true stars, the depth comes into it when you look at guys all through the top 20 or so picks who can contribute in some way.
There were multiple players taken in the second round which I fully believe would go late in the 1st in almost any other draft as well

K. J. McDaniels
Cleanthony Early
Jerami Grant
Glenn Robinson III
Jordan Clarkson

[Black and White]

I'm really happy about James Young, Orlando redeemed themselves a little by trading for Payton.

[Wavves]

Lakers got the only freshman to actually take his team somewhere in the tourney. (I don't really blame Wiggins)

Very happy
Good, solid pick.

I'm pretty high on Randle and believe he can be a 18/9 guy in the NBA.

To get that at 7 isn't bad at all.

[hawksdogsbraves]

I'm really happy about James Young, Orlando redeemed themselves a little by trading for Payton.

Really like Young, I was hoping the Hawks would get him.

[Wavves]

Really like Young, I was hoping the Hawks would get him.
What do you think about the Hawks picking Adreian Payne?

I thought they would go with a SF, but Payne is a great player.

[All Net]

Magic messed before the draft even started.

[Legends66NBA7]

Let the chips fall as they may.

[ILLsmak]

Ok then by your logic no player could ever be a reach. In fact, by your logic, there's no such THING as a reach. You could pick Mitch McGary number one overall and if he's at the top of your board, it was a good pick.

Well, lol to be fair that's more of an issue of having the wrong guy at the top of your board than a failure in that way of thinking.

Like dude said ya never know what will happen.

-Smak