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ArbitraryWater
06-27-2014, 05:27 PM
Thought about pointing them out, way too much... here, screened it.

http://i.gyazo.com/9e8fe7aa7fdb225c5e35329456819e31.png

Look at all those garbage games, while they keep winning with him shooting in the 30's.... smfh. 2000-2002 East = Horrible. No team even had a chance to compete... '00 Pacers loosing in 6 with the opponent's nr.2 guy missing 2 games and playing bad besides one game.

I mean, Iverson was on an whole other level of chucking/low % than Kobe... Dont compare the two (Yes, you akrozatile)

You know whats easier? Picking out Ai's good games:

R1 G2
R2 G2
R2 G5
ECF G7
Finals G1

Of course any time he was on it was like an immediate 40 pointer due to averaging 30 shot attempts throughout the playoffs :oldlol:

SouBeachTalents
06-27-2014, 05:31 PM
The 04-05 Pistons were the only legitimate team to come out of the East from 2000-07

Nikola_
06-27-2014, 05:33 PM
MJ retirement -- Celtics Big 3 = Garbage

STATUTORY
06-27-2014, 05:39 PM
OP wasn't watching ball back then, didn't know that was before they took out handcheck rule while still allowing zone defense

that was the most offfensively depressed era of NBA for good reason. AI was able to put up his best efficiency late in his career after they got rid of handcheck. Prime AI would put up 47%+ FG in this era easily

TheMarkMadsen
06-27-2014, 05:39 PM
AI's 01 playoff run to the finals

33/6/5/2 on 48% TS

Lebrons 07 run to the finals

25/8/8/2 on 51.6% TS

East in 07 pretty weak as well

Milbuck
06-27-2014, 05:43 PM
2 50 point games in the same week, and a 3 game stretch of 46/4/5/3 on 57% TS :bowdown:

LoneyROY7
06-27-2014, 05:44 PM
AI would dominate today.

ArbitraryWater
06-27-2014, 05:50 PM
2 50 point games in the same week, and a 3 game stretch of 46/4/5/3 on 57% TS :bowdown:

the master of cherry picking :rolleyes:

This is some Magic32 shit


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this was a low efficiency era because the era simply wasnt very good.

Just look at the Nets, you can clearly see today's teams are better defensively, while back then they were nr.1 ranked..

to mark madsen:

yea, lebron shot a whole 5% higher while bringing amazing all around game to the table... 8 rebounds / 8 assists? thats big time.

to roy7:

Ai wouldn't dominate any more than he did in 2006... Probably less, as 05 & 06 league-wide defense was pretty garbage..

inclinerator
06-27-2014, 06:05 PM
OP wasn't watching ball back then, didn't know that was before they took out handcheck rule while still allowing zone defense

that was the most offfensively depressed era of NBA for good reason. AI was able to put up his best efficiency late in his career after they got rid of handcheck. Prime AI would put up 47%+ FG in this era easily
kobe bryant cant even put up 47 percent but iverson could do it easily?

riseagainst
06-27-2014, 06:08 PM
kobe bryant cant even put up 47 percent but iverson could do it easily?

remember, kobe is the most overrated scorer of all time. a chucker. He's nothing compared to a.i.

fpliii
06-27-2014, 06:09 PM
OP wasn't watching ball back then, didn't know that was before they took out handcheck rule while still allowing zone defense

that was the most offfensively depressed era of NBA for good reason. AI was able to put up his best efficiency late in his career after they got rid of handcheck. Prime AI would put up 47%+ FG in this era easily
Huh? Illegal defense wasn't eliminated until the next season. :confusedshrug:

01-02
02-03
03-04

was the toughest defensive era, since you had both zone defenses and some hand-checking was still permitted.

riseagainst
06-27-2014, 06:10 PM
Huh? Illegal defense wasn't eliminated until the next season. :confusedshrug:

01-02
02-03
03-04

was the toughest defensive era, since you had both zone defenses and some hand-checking was still permitted.

:applause:

NuggetsFan
06-27-2014, 06:13 PM
Just look at A.I in Denver. Second he got another scorer to play with that was really talented and closer to today's NBA his FG% went up. Clearly you never saw that Sixer teams. A.I's job was to score and chuck, everybody else defend. Got them to the finals weak or not.

Just look at some of those games. Creating your shot = underrated skill. People think any player can average 23 shots a game for a season and atleast come out at 38-45% shooting. They can't, shooting the ball 33 times is a skill by it self.

NuggetsFan
06-27-2014, 06:13 PM
Just look at A.I in Denver. Second he got another scorer to play with that was really talented and closer to today's NBA his FG% went up. Clearly you never saw that Sixer teams. A.I's job was to score and chuck, everybody else defend. Got them to the finals weak or not.

Just look at some of those games. Creating your shot = underrated skill. People think any player can average 23 shots a game for a season and atleast come out at 38-45% shooting. They can't, shooting the ball 33 times is a skill by it self.

aj1987
06-27-2014, 06:14 PM
AI is literally the most overrated player of all time. That MVP? :oldlol:. Joke MVP.
Low 40's throughout his prime? :facepalm


Just look at A.I in Denver. Second he got another scorer to play with that was really talented and closer to today's NBA his FG% went up. Clearly you never saw that Sixer teams. A.I's job was to score and chuck, everybody else defend. Got them to the finals weak or not.

Just look at some of those games. Creating your shot = underrated skill. People think any player can average 23 shots a game for a season and atleast come out at 38-45% shooting. They can't, shooting the ball 33 times is a skill by it self.
Kobe, Wade, LeBron, etc. did it with worse teammates. Heck, 38/39 year old MJ was a better player than prime AI.

NuggetsFan
06-27-2014, 06:18 PM
AI is literally the most overrated player of all time. That MVP? :oldlol:. Joke MVP.
Low 40's throughout his prime? :facepalm


Kobe, Wade, LeBron, etc. did it with worse teammates. Heck, 38/39 year old MJ was a better player than prime AI.

Yeah if those guys did it, must mean Iverson is overrated :oldlol:

riseagainst
06-27-2014, 06:25 PM
AI is literally the most overrated player of all time. That MVP? :oldlol:. Joke MVP.
Low 40's throughout his prime? :facepalm


Kobe, Wade, LeBron, etc. did it with worse teammates. Heck, 38/39 year old MJ was a better player than prime AI.

:biggums:

aj1987
06-27-2014, 06:25 PM
Yeah if those guys did it, must mean Iverson is overrated :oldlol:
22 shots and 9 FT's to get to 27 points? Yeah, dude is an amazing player. :rolleyes:

Dude is literally the most overrated player of all time. Stole an MVP and that is his career highlight.

NuggetsFan
06-27-2014, 06:29 PM
22 shots and 9 FT's to get to 27 points? Yeah, dude is an amazing player. :rolleyes:

Dude is literally the most overrated player of all time. Stole an MVP and that is his career highlight.

Yeah that's all Iverson's career is. He's had efficient seasons before, check Denver. Certainly was inefficient alot of times in his career, doesn't make him a bad player. He was amazing. Who else dropped 50+ player off, and 40+ playoff games like that without a good offensive supporting cast and a defensive minded teams? .. guess they don't want to shoot that much. As if creating 30 isn't amazing by itself.

He's not LeBron Kobe or MJ and I'd say Wade is better. Doesn't make him not amazing or overrated, unless you suggest he's a top 20 guy.

You don't lead the league in scoring as much as he did without being amazing regardless of how many shots you take.

STATUTORY
06-27-2014, 06:29 PM
Huh? Illegal defense wasn't eliminated until the next season. :confusedshrug:

01-02
02-03
03-04

was the toughest defensive era, since you had both zone defenses and some hand-checking was still permitted.

when he said early 2000s, i didnt think he meant just 2000 season

I was including those years 2000-2004

fpliii
06-27-2014, 06:33 PM
when he said early 2000s, i didnt think he meant just 2000 season

I was including those years 2000-2004
I figured he was talking about 00-01 in particular since that was the focus of the OP. Not sure.

I do agree though, AI is pretty overrated (Shaq should've won MVP in 01, even with the feud going on). His shooting efficiency was a bit better after they cracked down on hand-checking, though.

Collie
06-27-2014, 06:35 PM
I'd say today's East might even be worse.