Just a reminder that I know nothing about basketball and have no respect for history.

[kennethgriffin]

in 1993-94 jordan made $4,000,000

1992-1993 - $14,000,000 salary cap



he retired and the bulls filled out their roster. he took much less money than what other players were making to play on a winner

1994-1995 - $15,964,000 salary cap ( by yearly increase jordan should have been at 4.5 mill )

1995-1996 - $23,000,000 salary cap ( jordan taking $3,850,000... by yearly increase jordan should have been at 4.5 to 5 mill )


when compared to other players

1995-1996
Olajuwon $5,305,000
ewing $18,724,000
robinson $7,700,000
mourning $4,560,000
hill $4,050,000
shaq $5,700,000


jordan could have demanded much more than 3,4,5 or even 10 million

infact. not until the bulls got a stacked super team did he finally demand his 30 million dollar contract


for years we've heard bulls fans say " jordan was underpaid his whole career. those last 2 years were make up seasons"

well duh. thats cause the bulls cheated. jordan cheated.

they f*cked with the system way before the heat and the big 3 ever did


the first big 3 colluding bullsh*t trio was rodman, pippen, jordan


if jordan never leaves, comes back for less. there is no 2nd three peat


rodman is bosh ( 1st colluder )

pippen is wade ( the guy who was there all along )

jordan is lebron ( the last colluder jumping on a free ride bandwagon )


:confusedshrug:



Kobe > dat scum

#ieatfirst #maxcontract

:bowdown:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Kobe's greed is going to cost him an opportunity to get a 6th ring. That's why he'll never be GOAT

[CelticBaller]

Kobe is a rapist doe

[jimmy77x]

Kobe's greed is going to cost him an opportunity to get a 6th ring. That's why he'll never be GOAT

Wow Kobe and Bran have something in common.

[Beastmode88]

Umm jerry didn't want to pay him a dime. Mj still has the highest salary of 33 mil aka more than kobe.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

in 1993-94 jordan made $4,000,000

1992-1993 - $14,000,000 salary cap



he retired and the bulls filled out their roster. he took much less money than what other players were making to play on a winner

1994-1995 - $15,964,000 salary cap ( by yearly increase jordan should have been at 4.5 mill )

1995-1996 - $23,000,000 salary cap ( jordan taking $3,850,000... by yearly increase jordan should have been at 4.5 to 5 mill )


when compared to other players

1995-1996
Olajuwon $5,305,000
ewing $18,724,000
robinson $7,700,000
mourning $4,560,000
hill $4,050,000
shaq $5,700,000


jordan could have demanded much more than 3,4,5 or even 10 million

infact. not until the bulls got a stacked super team did he finally demand his 30 million dollar contract


for years we've heard bulls fans say " jordan was underpaid his whole career. those last 2 years were make up seasons"

well duh. thats cause the bulls cheated. jordan cheated.

they f*cked with the system way before the heat and the big 3 ever did


the first big 3 colluding bullsh*t trio was rodman, pippen, jordan


if jordan never leaves, comes back for less. there is no 2nd three peat


rodman is bosh ( 1st colluder )

pippen is wade ( the guy who was there all along )

jordan is lebron ( the last colluder jumping on a free ride bandwagon )


:confusedshrug:



Kobe > dat scum

#ieatfirst #maxcontract

:bowdown:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/711373-nba-power-rankings-shaq-and-the-top-career-earners-in-nba-history

:biggums:

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe's greed is going to cost him an opportunity to get a 6th ring. That's why he'll never be GOAT

kobe with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 5 rings


jordan with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 3 rings

lebron with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 0 rings


:confusedshrug:

[JohnFreeman]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/711373-nba-power-rankings-shaq-and-the-top-career-earners-in-nba-history

:biggums:
C Webb Career Earnings: $178,230,697 :applause:

[DonDadda59]

The GOAT masterplan :bowdown:

http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Michael-Jordan-Rings.jpg

Michael Jordan- First Billionaire Athlete (http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2014/06/12/michael-jordan-is-a-billionaire-after-increasing-stake-in-hornets/)

[kennethgriffin]

Umm jerry didn't want to pay him a dime. Mj still has the highest salary of 33 mil aka more than kobe.

he couldnt ... jordan left. his money was given to someone else

he wanted back in. so he had to take what was left.. just like lebron had to take less to be with miami

i'm sure his pay would have increased and would have been 5-6 mill had he been loyal to his organization instead of quitting to play baseball

:confusedshrug:

[fpliii]

griff - He couldn't have taken more, he signed an 8-year contract in 1988:

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-09-21/sports/sp-2325_1_jordan-signs

Year 1: 88-89 ($2.00M)
Year 2: 89-90 ($2.25M)
Year 3: 90-91 ($2.50M)
Year 4: 91-92 ($3.25M)
Year 5: 92-93 ($4.00M)
Year 6: 93-94 ($4.00M)
Year 7: 94-95 ($3.85M)
Year 8: 95-96 ($3.85M)

Even though he played with the White Sox organization in the minors, his contract held up, and they still had his rights when he came back.

[kennethgriffin]

The GOAT masterplan :bowdown:

http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Michael-Jordan-Rings.jpg

Michael Jordan- First Billionaire Athlete (http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2014/06/12/michael-jordan-is-a-billionaire-after-increasing-stake-in-hornets/)


3 of those have the same value as 2 of lebrons


which is none.. collude/ring chased/pay cut *

[NBAplayoffs2001]

The GOAT masterplan :bowdown:

http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Michael-Jordan-Rings.jpg

Michael Jordan- First Billionaire Athlete (http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2014/06/12/michael-jordan-is-a-billionaire-after-increasing-stake-in-hornets/)

Him and Magic are quite intelligent businessmen.

[Beastmode88]

kobe with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 5 rings


jordan with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 3 rings

lebron with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 0 rings


:confusedshrug:

Lmao so from your logic if mj demanded a higher salary and didn't get it he ll have to leave and that means he's considered a colluder. Lose/lose situation? It's okay kobe will never get his 6th ring. Might lose his wedding ring and half his earning when he rapes another girl. Once a rapist always a rapist.

[J Shuttlesworth]

It's okay kobe will never get his 6th ring. Might lose his wedding ring and half his earning when he rapes another girl. Once a rapist always a rapist.
http://i.imgur.com/YuhTVzD.gif

[travelingman]

kobe with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 5 rings


jordan with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 3 rings

lebron with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 0 rings


:confusedshrug:

Lol "collude" isn't a noun, you dipshit.

[BigBoss]

1997-1998 his salary was a NBA record 33.14 million.

[kennethgriffin]

griff - He couldn't have taken more, he signed an 8-year contract in 1988:

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-09-21/sports/sp-2325_1_jordan-signs

Year 1: 88-89 ($2.00M)
Year 2: 89-90 ($2.25M)
Year 3: 90-91 ($2.50M)
Year 4: 91-92 ($3.25M)
Year 5: 92-93 ($4.00M)
Year 6: 93-94 ($4.00M)
Year 7: 94-95 ($3.85M)
Year 8: 95-96 ($3.85M)

Even though he played with the White Sox organization in the minors, his contract still held up, and they still had his rights when he came back.

he could have asked for more. deals can be restructured. extensions while in the middle of your contract is possible

jordan wanted that sh*t 3 mill so they could get rodman

he loved it

once they had the super team built they all got raises...

even rodmans went up to 9 mill in 1997

[kentatm]

he could have asked for more. deals can be restructured. extensions while in the middle of your contract is possible

jordan wanted that sh*t 3 mill so they could get rodman

he loved it

once they had the super team built they all got raises...

even rodmans went up to 9 mill in 1997

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Beastmode88]

he could have asked for more. deals can be restructured. extensions while in the middle of your contract is possible

jordan wanted that sh*t 3 mill so they could get rodman

he loved it

once they had the super team built they all got raises...

even rodmans went up to 9 mill in 1997

Be right back gonna opt out of my 8 year contract real quick.

[kennethgriffin]

Lmao so from your logic if mj demanded a higher salary and didn't get it he ll have to leave and that means he's considered a colluder. Lose/lose situation? It's okay kobe will never get his 6th ring. Might lose his wedding ring and half his earning when he rapes another girl. Once a rapist always a rapist.


jeff wont ban this guy for 2 weeks like he did with me.. know why?

cause only non kobe fans can make rape jokes

:lol

[fpliii]

he could have asked for more. deals can be restructured. extensions while in the middle of your contract is possible

jordan wanted that sh*t 3 mill so they could get rodman

he loved it

once they had the super team built they all got raises...

even rodmans went up to 9 mill in 1997
As far as I can tell, that wasn't possible during the CBA at the time? Maybe someone can correct me on this though.

[Beastmode88]

jeff wont ban this guy for 2 weeks like he did with me.. know why?

cause only non kobe fans can make rape jokes

:lol

I'm just quoting shaq.

[fpliii]

Actually, I was wrong. From the new Lazenby book:


Reinsdorf and Jordan had always enjoyed what appeared to be a strong relationship. As player salaries skyrocketed in the 1990s, Jordan was said to be understandably bothered that his contract paid him in the range of $ 4 million annually, while a dozen or more lesser players in the league earned twice that. At the same time, he was far too proud to ask for a renegotiation. His answer was to live up to the deal he had signed in the highest fashion. Yet when he abruptly retired in the fall of 1993, there were the inevitable insinuations that he did so in part because of his contract.

The Bulls continued to pay Jordan in his retirement, which, according to one of Reinsdorf’s associates, was a gesture of loyalty from Reinsdorf to Jordan. More cynical observers pointed out that by continuing to pay Jordan, the team also kept his salary slot open under the league’s labyrinthine salary cap rules. If nothing else, the circumstances suggested the difficulty of fostering personal relationships amid the conflicts of business. Even kind gestures could be interpreted as ploys.

In one sense, Reinsdorf and Jordan were partners in a lucrative sports-entertainment venture. The problem was that as a player, Jordan was barred from having any real equity position in the relationship. As a result , Reinsdorf was management, and Jordan was labor. The labor costs were fixed, while the profit percentages were soaring for those with a piece of the action.

Jordan, of course, was making his tens of millions off the court. Still, his relatively meager player contract created an inequity. And when he returned to the game in 1995, he returned under his old contract, which meant that the Bulls’ payroll itself remained well under $ 30 million, and the team could continue raking in tens of millions in profit. That, of course, was in addition to the tremendous growth in equity that Jordan’s brilliant play and the flurry of championships had created for the team’s owners. Reinsdorf’s group had purchased the club during Jordan’s rookie season for about $ 15 million, then watched its value grow to better than thirty times that over the ensuing decade.

There was a strong sense that Jordan was “owed,” felt not just by Jordan and his representatives but by virtually anyone who had anything to do with the NBA. Jordan’s play and leadership through the historic 1995– 1996 season solidified that notion. With the close of the campaign, his long-term contract finally expired. And then the real trouble started.

Just days after the championship celebration, the star’s representatives and Reinsdorf began discussing his new contract. In a 1998 interview, Jordan recalled his approach : “What I instructed my representative was, ‘Don’t go in and give a price. I’ve been with this team for a long time. Everyone knows what this market value may be, or could be. If he’s true to his word and honest in terms of our relationship, listen to what he says before we offer what our opinions may be.’ Falk’s instruction was to go in and listen, never to negotiate. Because it shouldn’t have come to a negotiation. We didn’t think of it as a negotiation. We felt it was an opportunity for the Bulls to give me what they felt my value had been to the organization.”

So it turns out he could have asked for a renegotiation, but didn't.

[NumberSix]

And he won, didn't he? Seems like what he did worked.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Shaq was better for 3/5 of Kobe's rings, so it evens out.

(technically speaking, Jordan has 3 and Kobe 2--aka he's still chasing Jordan's shadow)

[fpliii]

Two other interesting quotes:


Also coming into clarity was the evolving relationship between the league and television. NBC had outbid CBS for the NBA’s broadcast deal , putting millions of new dollars into players’ pockets. Jordan’s own contract, renegotiated just two years earlier, was already obsolete , leaving him as only the seventh highest paid player in the league. Even worse, Pippen’s renegotiated contract had him earning about $ 760,000 that year, when many of his lesser teammates were making more than a million. Pippen thought it a good idea to hide out in a Memphis hotel room rather than report for training camp that season, until his agent convinced him that such a path would be disastrous.

The financial issues would cause tremendous discord within the Chicago franchise over the coming decade as it became clear to players and their agents just how tough a businessman Reinsdorf was. The owner prized the art of the deal above everything, and had long ago made up his mind to avoid the bad player contracts that paralyzed so many teams. He had a strict policy of avoiding renegotiating deals at all costs, and while he might have done so for Jordan, Reinsdorf knew that his star would not ask for a raise, which meant that he could take his time evaluating the situation.

According to this, Reinsdorf likely would have been open to renegotiating.


His return had been delayed while he sought assurances that the Bulls would keep Pippen and Armstrong— assurances that Reinsdorf declined to make. Jordan said he had also taken his time evaluating his own motives, making sure his love of the game was genuine. That, he said, was the reason he returned, not financial considerations. He pointed out that the league had a moratorium on renegotiating contracts while it worked out a new labor agreement with the National Basketball Players Association, so he was forced to play for the $ 3.9 million salary he had left behind in 1993. (Although not required to, the Bulls had paid his full salary for 1993– 94, and they would cover the full amount for 1994– 95, although Jordan played only a portion of the season.) His return, he said, was based solely on his love for basketball.

At the time of his return though, according to the second quote, he couldn't renegotiate when he returned in 94-95. However, he could have renegotiated before 95-96, or at any point before his first retirement.

[JohnFreeman]

Isn't the Bulls owner tight with his money?

[Beastmode88]

Isn't the Bulls owner tight with his money?

Same owner that broke up the dynasty for his ego.

[kennethgriffin]

Actually, I was wrong. From the new Lazenby book:



So it turns out he could have asked for a renegotiation, but didn't.


Two other interesting quotes:



According to this, Reinsdorf likely would have been open to renegotiating.



At the time of his return though, according to the second quote, he couldn't renegotiate when he returned in 94-95. However, he could have renegotiated before 95-96, or at any point before his first retirement.





















http://i58.tinypic.com/2vigfeo.jpg

[fpliii]

http://i58.tinypic.com/2vigfeo.jpg
lol looks like you were right for the most part, but he couldn't have negotiated when he first came back in 94-95. :cheers:

[outbreak]

wasn't his contract like a 10 year deal or some shit from the 80's?

[kennethgriffin]

lol looks like you were right for the most part, but he couldn't have negotiated when he first came back in 94-95. :cheers:


i'm more shocked than anything about the fact that something i grabbed out of my ass and threw against the wall actually stuck and held like concrete cement

jordan really did have a scheme afterall


kinda makes me sad

:(

[kennethgriffin]

wasn't his contract like a 10 year deal or some shit from the 80's?


try and keep up brah.. fpliii's explained the situation

[fpliii]

i'm more shocked than anything about the fact that something i grabbed out of my ass and threw against the wall actually stuck and held like concrete cement

jordan really did have a scheme afterall


kinda makes me sad

:(
One other note...during the offseason going into 90-91, he was willing to take a paycut so the Bulls could sign a player:
[QUOTE]Once again, the focus turned to Walter Davis, who was now a free agent with Denver. Jordan agreed to renegotiate part of his contract to help the Bulls around salary cap issues, but only if they would use the money to sign Davis. The deal seemed to have momentum, until Davis

[kennethgriffin]

One other note...during the offseason going into 90-91, he was willing to take a paycut so the Bulls could sign a player:

Never actually happened, though.











http://i60.tinypic.com/2ynq6n5.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

me and fpliii work well as a combo.

i bring the wild accusations. he brings the hard evidence

[Beastmode88]

http://i60.tinypic.com/2ynq6n5.jpg

Should of taken a paycut in 2011 when the mavs swept the lakers by 40 pts. :cheers:

[fpliii]

me and fpliii work well as a combo.

i bring the wild accusations. he brings the hard evidence
:lol

Have to admit we lucked out on this one though.

[kennethgriffin]

Should of taken a paycut in 2011 when the mavs swept the lakers by 40 pts. :cheers:

not for true alpha dogs. they eat first

[GimmeThat]

he kept the court cleaned.

because I suppose he believe in what happened, happened.

a fool's gold.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Greatest is Magic's contract :lol

25 years/ 25 million :lol

Gilbert Arenas made that this year :lol

[kennethgriffin]

Greatest is Magic's contract :lol

25 years/ 25 million :lol

Gilbert Arenas made that this year :lol


no wonder the lakers could afford 4 hall of famers at a time



kobe wins multiple titles taking up 50% of a teams salary and his 3rd best team mate is jordan farmar




:lol

[Rubio2Gasol]

no wonder the lakers could afford 4 hall of famers at a time



kobe wins multiple titles taking up 50% of a teams salary and his 3rd best team mate is jordan farmar




:lol

Kobe may not have had great teammates, but the two championship teams were great teams, built to win.

[jstern]

Didn't Jordan demand like $35,000,000 in 1996?

Note: The OP many years ago carelessly mentioned that he started watching basketball at 20 years old, which was after the Laker's 3 peat. So 1996 is way before his time.

[Hands of Iron]

Kobe's greed is going to cost him an opportunity to get a 6th ring. That's why he'll never be GOAT.

He's albatross around the Lakers neck at this point.


Shaq was better for 3/5 of Kobe's rings, so it evens out.

(technically speaking, Jordan has 3 and Kobe 2--aka he's still chasing Jordan's shadow)

How everyone who was around remembers the first three.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2000/0117_large.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2001/0627_large.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2002/0626_large.jpg

No hate, just the real. No obsessive, online forum fanboy trolling and revisionist history is going to change that. Shaq was a GOAT-level player at the peak of his powers.

[played0ut]

he could have asked for more. deals can be restructured. extensions while in the middle of your contract is possible

jordan wanted that sh*t 3 mill so they could get rodman

he loved it

once they had the super team built they all got raises...

even rodmans went up to 9 mill in 1997

wow. MJ doesn't try to renegotiate contracts he's signed. I didn't even realize thx kenny. That's pretty admirable, actually.

Kenny confirmed for us MJ GOAT loyal employee.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[kennethgriffin]

He's albatross around the Lakers neck at this point.



How everyone who was around remembers the first three.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2000/0117_large.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2001/0627_large.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2002/0626_large.jpg

No hate, just the real. No obsessive, online forum fanboy trolling and revisionist history is going to change that. Shaq was a GOAT-level player at the peak of his powers.

meh... kobe 1 upped shaq in the end

thats why he kicked him out of LA.

shaq - "you cant win without me"

kobe - "watch this"


































https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TRyS9RjDO4

/debate

[GimmeThat]

he probably loved it when people brought up the subject of his salary.


2/4

[kennethgriffin]

how great is kobe... he ran top 7-10 all time player shaquille oneal out of town so he could play with less talent and prove himself


jordan and lebron played for less money so they could build super teams

imagine what they woulda took to get shaq?

maybe they woulda played for free or paid the teams to be there..


thats what makes kobe great. he likes to win with trash... hakeem style

farmar, vajucic, medvidenko, walton, mbenga, morrison...

:lol

he even benched bynum

[played0ut]

And he won, didn't he? Seems like what he did worked.

I don't get you. I'm new but from what I've seen you're more articulate and seem plenty smarter than the majority here. You know that OP's logic is seriously flawed but you're intentionally misrepresenting his logic to make your own point.

>you know there's no collusion on MJ's Bulls
>pretend OP has made a valid point, and using it to 'prove' the 'similarities' between Lebron and MJ, when their situations and winningest seasons are fundamentally different



Is it because of this ISH place? Because honestly... it's starting to get to me too. All these idiot posters (who aren't even stupid, but intentionally put blinders on) fighting for the smallest scrap of advantage they can get. It irks me and I can see why people post like this.

[Hands of Iron]

At least you don't deny it. Many usually point out one particular series over the entire run against San Antonio as proof they were equals. Kobe was indeed phenomenal in that (and actually a couple others), but it isn't as if Shaq's 27/13 on 54% against the twin towers was hurting anything.

A lot of others like to use more abstract numbers and figures to pull them closer, such as TS%. So it's rather amusing there wasn't a single Playoff Run, Finals, or Elimination Game over the entire threepeat in which Kobe actually put up a higher TS% than Shaq, the terrible FT shooter who doesn't take threes. But that's how dominant the dude was, and you really wouldn't even need numbers to back it up if you witnessed it first hand.

[kennethgriffin]

At least you don't deny it. Many usually point out one particular series over the entire run against San Antonio as proof they were equals. Kobe was indeed phenomenal in that (and actually a couple others), but it isn't as if Shaq's 27/13 on 54% against the twin towers was hurting anything.

A lot of others like to use more abstract numbers and figures to pull them closer, such as TS%. So it's rather amusing there wasn't a single Playoff Run, Finals, or Elimination Game over the entire threepeat in which Kobe actually put up a higher TS% than Shaq, the terrible FT shooter who doesn't take threes. But that's how dominant the dude was, and you really wouldn't even need numbers to back it up if you witnessed it first hand.


whats the point in arguing the same shit people have been arguing about for the last 15 years

i used to make valid points and arguments that proved kobes worth. but people online are idiots

i let public opinion do its magic these days

nobody cares about shaq

hes the journey man

hes the odd man out

he left

kobe stayed

kobe was the winner

shaqs the jilted bride

1 upped

[played0ut]

lol no offense kennethgriffen, but your logic/argument premises wouldn't even fly in a kangaroo court.

[Baller1986]

The NBA Superstars were started to get paid in the late 1990's.

[The_Pharcyde]

Didn't Jordan demand like $35,000,000 in 1996?

Note: The OP many years ago carelessly mentioned that he started watching basketball at 20 years old, which was after the Laker's 3 peat. So 1996 is way before his time.

Damn I didn't know this was someone who didn't even see his idols peak play, from 10 years ago hahaha
Stupid kid

[Asukal]

You are actually using salary contracts as your argument against the GOAT? :biggums:

:oldlol: :lol :roll: :applause:

[pastis]

in 1993-94 jordan made $4,000,000

1992-1993 - $14,000,000 salary cap



he retired and the bulls filled out their roster. he took much less money than what other players were making to play on a winner

1994-1995 - $15,964,000 salary cap ( by yearly increase jordan should have been at 4.5 mill )

1995-1996 - $23,000,000 salary cap ( jordan taking $3,850,000... by yearly increase jordan should have been at 4.5 to 5 mill )



:bowdown:

haha didnt know that the salary cap was so low back in the 90s and jordan earnd only 3-5 million. in todays league even the lowest bitch players wouldnt play for 3 -4 million (inflation included):facepalm

[KG215]

no wonder the lakers could afford 4 hall of famers at a time

:lol
It's like you're purposely stupid. Like you set out to see just how stupid and ignorant you can sound and see who all will buy into your bullshit.

[Beastmode88]

meh... kobe 1 upped shaq in the end

thats why he kicked him out of LA.

shaq - "you cant win without me"

kobe - "watch this"


































https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TRyS9RjDO4

/debate

Took kobe 8 years to win a ring without shaq.... :coleman:

[AirFederer]

MJ is undisputable GOAT and was underpaid, Shaq carried Kobe to three rangz, OP is fakkit. Anything else? :cheers:

[ArbitraryWater]

kobe with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 5 rings


jordan with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 3 rings

lebron with no collude, no pay cut. no ring chasing = 0 rings


:confusedshrug:

so basically those players if they stay with the team that drafted them forever with no retirements or anything like that?

[GimmeThat]

they need to restructure the rookie contract.

problem solved.
sixers saved.

[KingPush]

Strong thread title

[NZStreetBaller]

Wow Kobe and Bran have something in common.

thats a thread starter right thur...... what do lebron and kobe have in common lol

[Kblaze8855]

While I didn't edit the title...I approve of it and would have worded it almost exactly the same.

Anyway.....

Im wondering if this guy is even aware that Kobe took less than his max during his career. The max for Kobe...like Shaq, Kg, and others who had pre existing deals before the 99 CBA....is not everyone elses.

Kobe one contract took less than the Lakers could have paid him. His max extension was 90.1 for 3 years. He took 83.5 for 3. He was in his prime. An MVP level player. It was April before they won the title again.

But we will just keep that under the rug where it belongs...because it doesn't matter.

[Dro]

Definitely approve of the thread title........

[Knoe Itawl]

A more apt, and true title of a thread has rarely been seen here.

[J Shuttlesworth]

That title :roll: