View Full Version : Make an all European/world team that could three peat in the NBA
jongib369
06-30-2014, 05:16 PM
Use any non american you can think of....From guys who played in the NBA current/past, to guys who never stepped foot in the league current/past
KyrieTheFuture
06-30-2014, 05:29 PM
Sabonis
Yao
Dirk
Stojakovic
Tony Parker
AK47
No Spanoulis to be fair
Edit: Somehow forgot Hakeem and Manu
Redo
Hakeem
Dirk
AK47
Manu
Tony Parker
jongib369
06-30-2014, 05:42 PM
Sabonis
Yao
Dirk
Stojakovic
Tony Parker
AK47
No Spanoulis to be fair
Edit: Somehow forgot Hakeem and Manu
Redo
Hakeem
Dirk
AK47
Manu
Tony Parker
No idea how well this team would work but mine would be
C-Sabonis
PF-Dirk
SF-Oscar
SG-Petrovic
PG-Parker
6th-AK47
robert de niro
06-30-2014, 05:50 PM
parker/jasikevicius
petrovic/navarro
bodiroga/stojakovic
dirk/pau
sabonis/divac
alexd
06-30-2014, 06:05 PM
it depends on what you mean world team
ewing --> jamaica
hakeem --> nigeria
dominique --> france (he s father is from the us but he was born in Paris)
so if the rule is not born in the us then something like
hakeem/sabonis
ewing/dirk/gasol
dominique/bodiroga/kirilenko
petrovic/galis
diamantidis/parker
you got defence,size,length,shooters,scorers,slasers,good passers
Euroleague
06-30-2014, 06:21 PM
it depends on what you mean world team
ewing --> jamaica
hakeem --> nigeria
dominique --> france (he s father is from the us but he was born in Paris)
so if the rule is not born in the us then something like
hakeem/sabonis
ewing/dirk/gasol
dominique/bodiroga/kirilenko
petrovic/galis
diamantidis/parker
you got defence,size,length,shooters,scorers,slasers,good passers
:rolleyes:
jongib369
06-30-2014, 06:49 PM
:rolleyes:
What would your team be?
Brizzly
06-30-2014, 06:57 PM
What would your team be?
Vspan
Oly BC
06-30-2014, 07:11 PM
Vspan
And four random guys. Pick some of the fans.
Oly BC
06-30-2014, 07:24 PM
Using players from the past is a cheat.
Using current players I'd go with...
Parker, Sergio Rodriguez, Goran Dragic (forgot about him)
Ginobili, Spanoulis
Papanikolaou, Rudy Fernandez, Kirilenko
Dirk, Diaw, Pau
Ibaka, Mark Gasol
Am I forgetting anyone?
Also, there are 13 players on the team sheet in nba games, right?
Parker
Ginobili
Batum
Dirk
Marc Gasol
but yeah, no chance
robert de niro
06-30-2014, 07:36 PM
Using players from the past is a cheat.
how is it a cheat if OP specifically asked for current/past :confusedshrug: but all good if you decide to pick current players, you got a nice lineup :cheers:
Milbuck
06-30-2014, 07:38 PM
I'm going to assume world team means any non-American, and also assume that these players are all at their primes.
Steve Nash / Tony Parker / Goran Dragic
Manu Ginobili / Drazen Petrovic / Nic Batum
Andrei Kirilenko / Peja Stojakovic / Toni Kukoc
Dirk Nowitzki / Pau Gasol / Al Horford
Hakeem Olajuwon / Arvydas Sabonis / Yao Ming
**** a 3peat, that team is 8-10peating.
Oly BC
06-30-2014, 07:42 PM
how is it a cheat if OP specifically asked for current/past :confusedshrug: but all good if you decide to pick current players, you got a nice lineup :cheers:
Then you should be able to pick an american lineup using past players.
What would that be, the dream team and you'd add Kareem and Bryant or something? That team would win those mentioned here.
RichieW
06-30-2014, 07:44 PM
No love for Noah in this thread so far? I might even start him at C ahead of Gasol
Parker/Dragic
Calderon/Manu
Deng/Batum
Dirk/Ibaka
Noah/Marc
Edit: Forgot Dragic
There's loads of big men to choose from, but not too many 2's and 3's
Rooster
06-30-2014, 07:47 PM
I'm going to assume world team means any non-American, and also assume that these players are all at their primes.
Steve Nash / Tony Parker / Goran Dragic
Manu Ginobili / Drazen Petrovic / Nic Batum
Andrei Kirilenko / Peja Stojakovic / Toni Kukoc
Dirk Nowitzki / Pau Gasol / Al Horford
Hakeem Olajuwon / Arvydas Sabonis / Yao Ming
**** a 3peat, that team is 8-10peating.
Great lineup. Proven NBA players. Not a single minor leaguer.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-30-2014, 07:52 PM
I'm going to assume world team means any non-American, and also assume that these players are all at their primes.
Steve Nash / Tony Parker / Goran Dragic
Manu Ginobili / Drazen Petrovic / Nic Batum
Andrei Kirilenko / Peja Stojakovic / Toni Kukoc
Dirk Nowitzki / Pau Gasol / Al Horford
Hakeem Olajuwon / Arvydas Sabonis / Yao Ming
**** a 3peat, that team is 8-10peating.
Stockton / Magic / Payton
MJ / Bean / The Logo
Larry Legend / Lebron / Doctor J
Duncan / Barkley / Karl Malone
KAJ / Shaq / Russell
Assuming this is an all-time thing, there is no way your team is 3-peating, let alone 8-10peating. :oldlol:
Oly BC
06-30-2014, 07:55 PM
Stockton / Magic / Payton
MJ / Bean / The Logo
Larry Legend / Lebron / Doctor J
Duncan / Barkley / Karl Malone
KAJ / Shaq / Russell
Assuming this is an all-time thing, there is no way your team is 3-peating, let alone 8-10peating. :oldlol:
Lebron is in that team so everyone else becomes an average spot shooter.
Try again.
Milbuck
06-30-2014, 07:58 PM
Stockton / Magic / Payton
MJ / Bean / The Logo
Larry Legend / Lebron / Doctor J
Duncan / Barkley / Karl Malone
KAJ / Shaq / Russell
Assuming this is an all-time thing, there is no way your team is 3-peating, let alone 8-10peating. :oldlol:
Well the thread asked to construct a team that would 3peat in the NBA..no mention of "against an all-time American team". Obviously an all-American team would shit on any world team :confusedshrug:
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-30-2014, 07:58 PM
Lebron is in that team so everyone else becomes an average spot shooter.
Try again.
Bron probably wouldn't even be starting.
Like that? :banana:
Well the thread asked to construct a team that would 3peat in the NBA..no mention of "against an all-time American team". Obviously an all-American team would shit on any world team :confusedshrug:
True, and if thats the case, an 8-10peat is pretty given.
Oly BC
06-30-2014, 08:06 PM
Well the thread asked to construct a team that would 3peat in the NBA..no mention of "against an all-time American team". Obviously an all-American team would shit on any world team :confusedshrug:
Only because of the past gap.
Nowadays Spain can beat Team USA (and not dream team anymore) and team usa would be considered ridiculously stacked if it were an nba team.
American basketaball had its day in the sun and it was a short one.
Rooster
06-30-2014, 08:09 PM
Well the thread asked to construct a team that would 3peat in the NBA..no mention of "against an all-time American team". Obviously an all-American team would shit on any world team :confusedshrug:
This:bowdown:
All American team are too athletic, too strong and too skilled. Just imagine Bird, Magic, Jordan, Kareem and Shaq all in their prime. :oldlol: Only Hakeem and Dirk can carry their jockstrap.
IllegalD
06-30-2014, 08:11 PM
Vassilis Spanoulis
Fran Vasquez
Nikoloz Tskitishvilli
Rafael Araujo
Darko Milicic
Coach: Euroleague
jongib369
06-30-2014, 08:12 PM
This:bowdown:
All American team are too athletic, too strong and too skilled. Just imagine Bird, Magic, Jordan, Kareem and Shaq all in their prime. :oldlol: Only Hakeem and Dirk can carry their jockstrap.
How about white American team vs white world team?
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-30-2014, 08:13 PM
Only because of the past gap.
Nowadays Spain can beat Team USA (and not dream team anymore) and team usa would be considered ridiculously stacked if it were an nba team.
American basketaball had its day in the sun and it was a short one.
Europe and international ball in general have caught up. No doubt about that. Basketball is still played at its absolute pinnacle in the states, though.
It's no coincidence when the US finally decided to send their best players, they've been undefeated in FIBA and the Olympics.
(the NBA also have a 44-10 head-2-head record vs Euroleague)
Rooster
06-30-2014, 08:13 PM
Only because of the past gap.
Nowadays Spain can beat Team USA (and not dream team anymore) and team usa would be considered ridiculously stacked if it were an nba team.
American basketaball had its day in the sun and it was a short one.
Euros are too soft , too slow Unathletic and unfit bums. Pau Gasol always dominate the Eurobasket.
USA won most of the Olympic gold while Greece never even medal. :facepalm
Oly BC
06-30-2014, 08:15 PM
This:bowdown:
All American team are too athletic, too strong and too skilled. Just imagine Bird, Magic, Jordan, Kareem and Shaq all in their prime. :oldlol: Only Hakeem and Dirk can carry their jockstrap.
All players who retired for many years ago. Replace anyone of them with someone from today and it looks like a cruel joke.:(
It makes me wonder, were these people actually that good or they simply looked good against the inferior american opposition because at that time there weren't any superior foreign teams to ridicule them (due to lack of interest in other countries)?
We might never know for sure.
Rooster
06-30-2014, 08:19 PM
How about white American team vs white world team?
It wont be exciting but American whites will win by landslide.
Rooster
06-30-2014, 08:25 PM
All players who retired for many years ago. Replace anyone of them with someone from today and it looks like a cruel joke.:(
It makes me wonder, were these people actually that good or they simply looked good against the inferior american opposition because at that time there weren't any superior foreign teams to ridicule them (due to lack of interest in other countries)?
We might never know for sure.
No wonder your greatest player is American.:oldlol: And Americans won the most Euroleague MVPs, Final Four MVPs, All Euroleague Team, Euroleague 35 greatest players, Euroleague All Decade team than any nation in Europe and most of them were scrubs who could not make it the NBA:oldlol:
Oly BC
06-30-2014, 08:27 PM
Europe and international ball in general have caught up. No doubt about that. Basketball is still played at its absolute pinnacle in the states, though.
It's no coincidence when the US finally decided to send their best players, they've been undefeated in FIBA and the Olympics.
(the NBA also have a 44-10 head-2-head record vs Euroleague)
You people must be bad at math or willfully ignorant. The US plays against each country not against the world all at once. :facepalm Its population is more than 300 million, as is Europe's taken as a whole.:oldlol:
If we're debating nations, it makes no sense to count any spurs' win in america's favour. Regarding that point though it would seem that 5 of these wins were over the past 4 years with the record at 13-5 and with 11 games played on US soil (7 on european). Hardly pointing to a trend really.
If anything, by considering the situation a few decades back I'd say that clearly the only trend existing is one in favour of european team basketball which is now a match to NBA and also much more enjoyable as a result of its superior tactics and fluid play.
jongib369
06-30-2014, 08:41 PM
It wont be exciting but American whites will win by landslide.
Walton
McHale
Bird
West
Maravich
They alone would make that game exciting IMO
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-30-2014, 08:42 PM
You people must be bad at math or willfully ignorant. The US playes against each country not against the world all at once. :facepalm Its population is more than 300 million, as is Europe's taken as a whole.:oldlol:
If we're debating nations, it makes no sense to count any spurs' win in america's favour. Regarding that point though it would seem that 5 of these wins were over the past 4 years with the record at 13-5 and with 11 games played on US soil (7 on european). Hardly pointing to a trend really.
If anything, by considering the situation a few decades back I'd say that clearly the only trend existing is one in favour of european team basketball which is now a match to NBA and also much more enjoyable as a result of its superior tactics and fluid play.
This coming from the guy who cannot form a coherent sentence.
I take it English is your second language?
Err, anyway, I'm talking about Euroleague (the actual league) vs the NBA (the actual league) in H2H matchups. Who mentioned/singled out the Spurs?
And once again, since the US has decided to send their BEST players (2008), they have been undefeated in FIBA and in the Olympics.
Regarding that point though it would seem that 5 of these wins were over the past 4 years with the record at 13-5 and with 11 games played on US soil (7 on european).
We can take it back to 2010. In the last 4 years of H2H competition, the NBA is 13-5 against EL.
A 72% winning rate. I'd say that is definitely a trend, of course thats just icing on the cake if we're talking current trends. :cheers:
Oly BC
06-30-2014, 09:22 PM
This coming from the guy who cannot form a coherent sentence.
I take it English is your second language?
So not one of my sentences is coherent? That's sad to know.
Err, anyway, I'm talking about Euroleague (the actual league) vs the NBA (the actual league) in H2H matchups. Who mentioned/singled out the Spurs?
The thread is about nations and spurs have many non-americans. It's that simple really. The spurs themselves are almost an all european/world team that could threepeat.
And once again, since the US has decided to send their BEST players (2008), they have been undefeated in FIBA and in the Olympics.
This thread is about nba teams on the one hand and all other nations on the other. Sure enough China or India needn't be taken into account but talking about what the US accomplishes against Spain by itself (ie winning by a few points while having an abnormally good shooting day from the 3p line) is also irrelevant. Spain can be compared to an american state, not to the US and the US team would be an unimaginably stacked NBA team.
I'm not sure you've realized what is the thread's topic.
To put it in visual terms
USA>>>the currently most stacked NBA team
USA>Spain? from what we've seen in international competitions
All european/world team >>>>>Spain
So All european/world team>>>>>>>>>>>the currently most stacked nba team
I hope that was coherent. I used symbols in place of words.
We can take it back to 2010. In the last 4 years of H2H competition, the NBA is 13-5 against EL.
A 72% winning rate. I'd say that is definitely a trend, of course thats just icing on the cake if we're talking current trends. :cheers:
I was wrong because I didn't take into account the Lakers-Barcelona (champion against champion) game that Barca won. The record is 13-6 with 11 of the games on US soil and 8 of then on european.
Statistically insignificant I would say.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-30-2014, 09:47 PM
So not one of my sentences is coherent? That's sad to know.
ESL?
The thread is about nations and spurs have many non-americans. It's that simple really. The spurs themselves are almost an all european/world team that could threepeat.
This thread has shifted into multiple discussions (sorry about that, OP)
Once more..I simply said that, in H2H matchups, the NBA is 44-10 alltime vs EL and 13-5 (or 13-6*) in the last 4 years.
NONE of these [statistical] sample-sizes = "trends" ? Please enlighten us.
This thread is about nba teams on the one hand and all other nations on the other.
Once again, the discussion of said topic has changed.
FACTS:
US in the Olympics and FIBA = undefeated since 2008
NBA vs EL all-time is 44-10
NBA vs EL the last 4 years is 13-5 (13-6*)
Soil is irrelevant, considering the US played all of their games, in FIBA, overseas. Same thing during the Olympics. In the end, they're undefeated.
Rooster
06-30-2014, 09:48 PM
Walton
McHale
Bird
West
Maravich
They alone would make that game exciting IMO
I suppose Maravich can make it exciting with his flashy style but I rather have Stockton. The minute he set a hard screen, it's over for the World.
Rooster
06-30-2014, 09:54 PM
ESL?
This thread has shifted into multiple discussions (sorry about that, OP)
Once more..I simply said that, in H2H matchups, the NBA is 44-10 all-time vs EL and 13-5 (or 13-6*) in the last 4 years.
NONE of these [statistical] sample-sizes = "trends" ? Please enlighten us.
Once again, the discussion of said topic has changed.
FACTS:
US in the Olympics and FIBA = undefeated since 2008
US vs EL all-time is 44-10
US vs EL the last 4 years is 13-5 (13-6*)
Soil is irrelevant, consideringthe US played all of their games, in FIBA, overseas. Same thing during the Olympics. In the end, since 2008, they're undefeated.
Those unfit, unathletic soft and slow as molasses Euros can't play the grown man defense. They are more competitive in the amateur rules with the superior Americans because they can parked the zone and hoping shots will not fall. That's is why under NBA rules, they got embarrassed most of the time.
Oly BC
07-01-2014, 09:22 AM
This thread has shifted into multiple discussions (sorry about that, OP)
Once again, the discussion of said topic has changed.
You sure put in the effort.
Once more..I simply said that, in H2H matchups, the NBA is 44-10 alltime vs EL and 13-5 (or 13-6*) in the last 4 years.
NONE of these [statistical] sample-sizes = "trends" ? Please enlighten us.
FACTS:
US in the Olympics and FIBA = undefeated since 2008
NBA vs EL all-time is 44-10
NBA vs EL the last 4 years is 13-5 (13-6*)
Soil is irrelevant, considering the US played all of their games, in FIBA, overseas. Same thing during the Olympics. In the end, they're undefeated.
Soil is irrelevant, home court advantage is irrelevant, even when it's on a different continent (or when the game onvolves made-up rules that only serve the sponsors and "fans" that like bigger numbers). :facepalm
A reasonable outcome would be 11-8, 13-6 is too close to matter really.
Every national team except the hosts plays "overseas" in international tournaments! Some of your arguments are just bad.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-01-2014, 11:32 AM
You sure put in the effort.
Soil is irrelevant, home court advantage is irrelevant, even when it's on a different continent (or when the game onvolves made-up rules that only serve the sponsors and "fans" that like bigger numbers). :facepalm
A reasonable outcome would be 11-8, 13-6 is too close to matter really.
Let me break this down in layman's terms.
The US played their games @ FIBA and in the Olympics overseas. ALL of them. Result? They still came out undefeated.
Home court might be relevant to inferior opposition, but truthfully its not that important if you're elite and have your gameplan set.
Every national team except the hosts plays "overseas" in international tournaments! Some of your arguments are just bad.
I ask again, is English your second language?
Because your comprehension is dreadful.
I mean, you do realize that in FIBA and Olympic play (since 2010), Europe has essentially played in their backyard?
-FIBA 2010: Turkey (USA undefeated in ALL of their games)
-Olympics 2012: London (USA undefeated in ALL of their games)
:confusedshrug:
OnFire
07-01-2014, 12:17 PM
Does Tim Duncan count as International or U.S.A? I'll shift in Toni Kukoc to SF and play one of the SF at backup PF if no Duncan to keep flexible, or go full twin towers and bring in Dikembe.
All Time:
Hakeem/Sabonis/Yao Ming
Duncan/Patrick Ewing
Dirk/Schrempf/Stojakovic
Ginobili/Petrovic
Nash/Parker
Current Players:
Pero Antic/M Gasol/Gortat
Tim Duncan/Valanciunas/Ibaka
Dirk/Batum/Deng
Ginobili
Parker/Nash/Rubio
Euroleague
07-01-2014, 12:57 PM
Let me break this down in layman's terms.
The US played their games @ FIBA and in the Olympics overseas. ALL of them. Result? They still came out undefeated.
Home court might be relevant to inferior opposition, but truthfully its not that important if you're elite and have your gameplan set.
I ask again, is English your second language?
Because your comprehension is dreadful.
I mean, you do realize that in FIBA and Olympic play (since 2010), Europe has essentially played in their backyard?
-FIBA 2010: Turkey (USA undefeated in ALL of their games)
-Olympics 2012: London (USA undefeated in ALL of their games)
:confusedshrug:
Stop trolling.
You are at the level of Rooster, Nick Young, Dr.J4ever, gabepizza, and posters like that in this thread.
Stop trolling.
You are are the level of Rooster, Nick Young, Dr.J4ever, gabepizza, and posters like that in this thread.
literally none of what he said was trolling.. unless you think stating facts is trolling.
Euroleague
07-01-2014, 01:14 PM
literally none of what he said was trolling.. unless you think stating facts is trolling.
Everything he has said in this thread is mega trolling to the nth degree. Now we have the "stating facts" trolls.
I guess the aforementioned trolls are letting up a bit after the bans they took. So you guys have to take up the slack for them.
Iceman#44
07-01-2014, 01:14 PM
C: Arvydas Sabonis
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Toni Kukoc
G: Drazen Petrovic
G: Steve Nash
Bench:
C: Yao Ming
F: Pau Gasol
F: Andrei Kirilenko
G: Manu Ginobili
G: Tony Parker
G: Oscar Schmidt
C: Vlade Divac
OnFire
07-01-2014, 01:16 PM
C: Arvydas Sabonis
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Toni Kukoc
G: Drazen Petrovic
G: Steve Nash
Bench:
C: Yao Ming
F: Pau Gasol
F: Andrei Kirilenko
G: Manu Ginobili
G: Tony Parker
G: Oscar Schmidt
C: Vlade Divac
Your starting 5 would be my "Small ball" lineup. It could be dangerous defensively to have all those 5 on the floor at once though, I would be very nervous.
Euroleague
07-01-2014, 01:19 PM
What's hilarious is that in this thread you have people mentioning Oscar Schmidt, when a lot of the SAME people mentioning him, called him a "mega scrub" and "epic bum" before whenever I mentioned him here in this forum.
But that was BEFORE ESPN started hyping him up and BEFORE he got put in the Hall of Fame.
Now all of a sudden he's "one of the best ever", according to some of the SAME people in this forum that were saying he was one of the biggest joke players ever, every single time I mentioned him here.
Unbelievable example of NBA only fan disease.
:facepalm
Of course, none of them still mention Nick Galis.............you know because ESPN hasn't mentioned him yet, and he hasn't been put in the Hall of Fame yet, so he's still a "Euro bum and scrub".
But of course next year when he gets put in the Hall of Fame and ESPN does does some fluff hype piece on him, then all of a sudden magically he will be on such lists, from the same people making jokes about him here all these years, and calling him a "Euro scrub and bum".
:rolleyes:
:biggums:
Pathetic.
OnFire
07-01-2014, 01:24 PM
Out of all the players listed, I wish I could have seen Sabonis in his prime, in the NBA.
By the time I saw him play he could barely run up and down the court and he was still good.(admittedly I didn't watch much Euro basketball at the time, sorry EuroLeague if I offend your sensibilities). Everyone's knowledge, especially of things going on in other countries, is different.
Euroleague
07-01-2014, 01:36 PM
Out of all the players listed, I wish I could have seen Sabonis in his prime, in the NBA.
By the time I saw him play he could barely run up and down the court and he was still good.(admittedly I didn't watch much Euro basketball at the time, sorry EuroLeague if I offend your sensibilities). Everyone's knowledge, especially of things going on in other countries, is different.
There are plenty of games on YouTube available.
OnFire
07-01-2014, 01:40 PM
There are plenty of games on YouTube available.
True but really want I wish was to see what he would have been if he played his whole career in the NBA. Like 25 year old Sabonis in the NBA...he was already D-Wade's age when he finally was allowed to play in the NBA, or around that. Imagine if we never saw D-Wade in his prime against top competition.... his game is very different now, slower, and more injuries.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-01-2014, 02:37 PM
Stop trolling.
You are at the level of Rooster, Nick Young, Dr.J4ever, gabepizza, and posters like that in this thread.
Straw-man.
Nothing I said was trolling/opinionated. It's all documented :confusedshrug:
jongib369
07-01-2014, 02:39 PM
Out of all the players listed, I wish I could have seen Sabonis in his prime, in the NBA.
By the time I saw him play he could barely run up and down the court and he was still good.(admittedly I didn't watch much Euro basketball at the time, sorry EuroLeague if I offend your sensibilities). Everyone's knowledge, especially of things going on in other countries, is different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I6dKuQ4wc8
Oly BC
07-01-2014, 02:45 PM
Let me break this down in layman's terms.
The US played their games @ FIBA and in the Olympics overseas. ALL of them. Result? They still came out undefeated.
Home court might be relevant to inferior opposition, but truthfully its not that important if you're elite and have your gameplan set.
I ask again, is English your second language?
Because your comprehension is dreadful.
I mean, you do realize that in FIBA and Olympic play (since 2010), Europe has essentially played in their backyard?
-FIBA 2010: Turkey (USA undefeated in ALL of their games)
-Olympics 2012: London (USA undefeated in ALL of their games)
:confusedshrug:
Your attempts to reason are dreadful. You only just decided that the 08 olympics don't matter and that playing in the UK in 12 where the crowd would obviously support the US is somehow an advantage to everyone else.
So is a tournament being held in Turkey advantageous to Greece for example? Are these countries each other's backyard? Jesus.
Just admit you said something stupid, surely you've done so before.
nightprowler10
07-01-2014, 02:46 PM
Stop trolling.
You are at the level of Rooster, Nick Young, Dr.J4ever, gabepizza, and posters like that in this thread.
Post your lineup.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-01-2014, 02:53 PM
Your attempts to reason are dreadful. You only just decided that the 08 olympics don't matter and that playing in the UK in 12 where the crowd would obviously support the US is somehow an advantage to everyone else.
So is a tournament being held in Turkey advantageous for Greece? Jesus.
Just admit you said something stupid, surely you've done so before.
Honestly, are you purposely being dense? How do you not comprehend whats being said?
I only "just decided" to draw the cut-off at 2008, because that was my original premise. Yet again, for the nth time, once the US decided to send over their best players, they've been undefeated in world play. Okay?
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-01-2014, 02:57 PM
So is a tournament being held in Turkey advantageous to Greece for example? Are these countries each other's backyard? Jesus.
Just admit you said something stupid, surely you've done so before.
Opposed to the US? Absolutely.
There were more European fans than American ones at Turkey and London. MANY more. You'd have to be completely deluded to argue otherwise.
StephHamann
07-01-2014, 02:59 PM
Parker/Rubio
Dragic/Ginobli
Batum/Deng
Dirk/Ibaka
M.Gasol/Noah
Championsship Team
Oly BC
07-01-2014, 03:04 PM
And once again, since the US has decided to send their BEST players (2008), they have been undefeated in FIBA and in the Olympics.
Your original premise was 2008, not 2010. And you claimed the US was playing overseas in 2008 when everyone but China were playing in a different country as it always happens in international tournaments.
You changed it to 2010 and also added that homecourt advantage was say in Greece's favour when the games were in Turkey because in your "mind" these two countries are close and that pretty much covers it.
And the only reason you started promoting the super-crazy idea that homecourt advantage doesn't matter -against anything anyone has ever seen- was to whitewash the NBA's team record against euroleague. :lol :lol :lol
I'm sorry, no point in continuing the discussion with you. Just be mad.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-01-2014, 03:05 PM
Your original premise was 2008, not 2010.
You changed it to 2010 and also added that homecourt advantage was say in Greece's favour when the games were in Turkey because in your "mind" since these two countries are close and that pretty much covers it.
And the only reason you started promoting the super-crazy idea that homecourt advantage doesn't matter -against anything anyone has ever seen- was to whitewash the NBA's team record against euroleague. :lol :lol :lol
I'm sorry, no point in continuing the discussion with you. Just be mad.
I "changed it" to 2010 (where they beat European nations IN Europe) because you started bringing up trivial bullshit like "homecourt" and "soil".
:hammerhead:
Oly BC
07-01-2014, 03:18 PM
I "changed it" to 2010 (where they beat European nations IN Europe) because you started bringing up trivial bullshit like "homecourt" and "soil".
:hammerhead:
It's not trivial when two teams play in each other's court.
It is trivial in international competitions where all teams are playing away games, unless they represent the host country.
Europe isn't a country. Try to be less of a stereotype. The "clueless american" is overdone.
duskovujosevic
07-01-2014, 03:18 PM
PG: Steve Nash/Tony Parker
SG: Drazen Petrovic/Sarunas Marculionis/Manu Ginobili
SF: Oscar Schmidt/Peja Stojakovic/Dejan Bodiroga
PF: Toni Kukoc/Dirk Nowitzki
C: Arvydas Sabonis/Yao Ming
Oly BC
07-01-2014, 03:25 PM
But nobody said Europe was a country. Please keep up.
Again, the US played AND beat European nations IN Europe. That would be like those same European national teams coming to North America and beating the US...in Canada - where people like you would consider that "homecourt advantage"
No, I wouldn't. I would consider it a hca if we were talking about a european team facing the raptors in Toronto. Because it would be.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-01-2014, 03:26 PM
Enough of the trivial nonsense though. Lets stick to the facts. Since 2008, the US is undefeated outside of NA, err their "soil". :cheers:
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-01-2014, 03:32 PM
No, I wouldn't. I would consider it a hca if we were talking about a european team facing the raptors in Toronto. Because it would be.
Feel free to drown in your own ignorance.
robert de niro
07-01-2014, 04:03 PM
would love to see nba teams playing in PAO, partizan, etc stadiums tho that would be comical :lol
duskovujosevic
07-01-2014, 04:06 PM
they will shit their pants :)
Euroleague
07-01-2014, 06:06 PM
would love to see nba teams playing in PAO, partizan, etc stadiums tho that would be comical :lol
Olympiacos and Panathinaikos have both said that the NBA has been invited to play there every single year since like 2008..........
they have refused to do so every single year.
That pretty much sums up this whole worthless and pointless debate that this one guy is trying to pass off as "fact".
ImKobe
07-01-2014, 06:20 PM
I'm going to assume world team means any non-American, and also assume that these players are all at their primes.
Steve Nash / Tony Parker / Goran Dragic
Manu Ginobili / Drazen Petrovic / Nic Batum
Andrei Kirilenko / Peja Stojakovic / Toni Kukoc
Dirk Nowitzki / Pau Gasol / Al Horford
Hakeem Olajuwon / Arvydas Sabonis / Yao Ming
**** a 3peat, that team is 8-10peating.
You remove the starting 5 and it's still a favorite to win it all.
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