Breaking: Pistons sign Jodie Meeks to 3yr/19mil+

[Natureland]

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/484076537772122112


Jodie Meeks has agreed to a three-year, $19 million-plus contract with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Well...****

[FlawlessVictory]

Overpaid. 12 million or so over 3 years is his real value.

[Levity]

more than i imagined hed get, but definitely a good pick up for the offense theyll be running next year. ive never been a meeks fan, but last season he played pretty good considering what the lakers were going through. best of luck to him. again, smart pick up (not factoring in the contract, though)

[IncarceratedBob]

He's a borderline NBA player, he can shoot a little but honestly if I was his height I could be in the NBA. Typical Pisstons move.

[lakerspng]

can't ignore an offer like that. Good luck jodie. I'll hope you have a great 80 games next year.

[FlawlessVictory]

Pistons badly need a small forward. Deng and Ariza would be nice fits but face serious competition for them. I like the idea of Jeff Green under Svg

[gts]

That's a lot of money for Meeks...

Good for him, Pistons fans will like his energy but still feels like the outbid themselves on this.. Lakers sure weren't going to be paying him that much

[no pun intended]

Lakers just lost their best player from last year.

[Heavincent]

Further proof that a good number of GM's have no idea what they're doing.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Slight overpayment. Worth like 5 per.

[imnew09]

Overpaid but best luck for Meek. He served us good :applause:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Pistons have no idea what they are doing. Get Drummond out of there.

[PleezeBelieve]

6 mill a year? Boobie Gibson needs this guy's agent

[Johnny Jones]

Slight overpayment. Worth like 5 per.
More like 4per like somebody in the thread already said. But I guess Detriot has to overpay for Free agents to go to that shit hole.

[HurricaneKid]

if I was his height I could be in the NBA.

WTF is this? What bigtime college program did you come out of?

He's not even tall.

[Levity]

Pistons have no idea what they are doing. Get Drummond out of there.

hes a signing that benefits drummond though. SVG obvioulsy views drummond the same way he did Dwight in ORL. surround him with shooters, so Drummond can have room to beast in the paint. Meeks fits that mold. but agree about the overpaying.

[Jameerthefear]

overpaid by like 1 mil but Detroit HAS to overpay freeagents.

[fatboy11]

He's a borderline NBA player, he can shoot a little but honestly if I was his height I could be in the NBA. Typical Pisstons move.

Don't be silly.

His career scoring average is near 10 PPG. He's probably not worth 20 million over 3 years, but he's easily an NBA-caliber reserve guard. Fits into what SVG is wanting to run and isn't afraid to take a big shot. This isn't a dumb move at all (the signing), but the dollar amount might come back to hurt them.

[fatboy11]

hes a signing that benefits drummond though. SVG obvioulsy views drummond the same way he did Dwight in ORL. surround him with shooters, so Drummond can have room to beast in the paint. Meeks fits that mold. but agree about the overpaying.

Exactly.

Very clear to see what SVG is doing here. Meeks will be a fine back-up for the future of the 2 spot in Detroit, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

[HurricaneKid]

Shooting is becoming more and more important in the NBA. Elite shooters make it really difficult for defenses to load up on your primary offensive weapons. 6M+ seems like a lot but Det has ZERO shooting and will benefit enormously having a guy who can stretch defenses.

[ihatetimthomas]

He's a borderline NBA player, he can shoot a little but honestly if I was his height I could be in the NBA. Typical Pisstons move.

You might want to watch a player play before you decide to chime in with your "insight." He played very well last year. Yes Lakers had not much but he still produced night in and night out on a consistent basis. He was the hardest playing Laker last year, and he really grew. He has range, plays smart, and is a great team player. They actually add a good professional character guy to their team, something they have really lacked.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

wait a second....... does this mean Monroe.........

DO IT RILEY

[Milbuck]

Not a good deal for Detroit...but it's not awul. Meeks is still only 26, he could improve the next 3 years. He was a 16ppg 60% TS scorer this past season, and he's still getting better.

[D-Rose]

Pistons also add Cartier Martin on a 1 yr deal. Not sure about price yet.

[qrich]

Overpayed Meeks by a good 6 mil or so for the length of the deal. Martin is an unknown.

Looks like Van Gundy will go the Dwight route with Drummond. Chucking threes.

[fatboy11]

You might want to watch a player play before you decide to chime in with your "insight." He played very well last year. Yes Lakers had not much but he still produced night in and night out on a consistent basis. He was the hardest playing Laker last year, and he really grew. He has range, plays smart, and is a great team player. They actually add a good professional character guy to their team, something they have really lacked.

Also a guy that doesn't shy away from the moment. He's a hungry scorer. Saw him a lot in college. Saw him drop like 50 a couple times, actually. He can fill it up. Big-shot role player, IMO. Reminds me of Mario Elie. People are getting caught up in the dollars -- it's the NBA, lot of guys get overpaid.

[no pun intended]

He's more than just a shooter now. You guys do realize that Meeks ranked in the top tier in finishing under the basket this season right (67.8% FG from 0-3 feet)? I doubt many of you watched the Lakers last season, but whoever did knows that Meeks drastically improved his lay-up game. His body control during his drives has been amazing. Solid pickup for the Pistons, especially with SVG there.

[fatboy11]

Pistons also add Cartier Martin on a 1 yr deal. Not sure about price yet.

Surely vet minimum but likely full guaranteed.

[Levity]

He's more than just a shooter now. You guys do realize that Meeks ranked in the top tier in finishing under the basket this season right (67.8% FG from 0-3 feet)? I doubt many of you watched the Lakers last season, but whoever did knows that Meeks drastically improved his lay-up game. His body control during his drives has been amazing. Solid pickup for the Pistons, especially with SVG there.

2 feet meeks :rockon:

[Thunderfan86]

Good for you, Jodie. Couldn't have got that kind of money from OKC.

[ImKobe]

I actually like this move for the Pistons, I think they could have got him for 16-17 mil instead of 19 but nevertheless a solid move. Meeks is a good 3pt shooter and is coming off a career year, he's only 26 years old and although the Lakers were bad last season, he did play really well to start the season and was the reason we were in Playoff position before Pau went out.

He's a solid defender, hustles on every position and on most nights he's money on the 3 ball. I think he's a solid starting SG in this league and he'll be worth the money.

[ihatetimthomas]

Also a guy that doesn't shy away from the moment. He's a hungry scorer. Saw him a lot in college. Saw him drop like 50 a couple times, actually. He can fill it up. Big-shot role player, IMO. Reminds me of Mario Elie. People are getting caught up in the dollars -- it's the NBA, lot of guys get overpaid.

Yep, and that was exactly how he was as a Laker last year. He never had a problem taking big shots. Thats what made him good last year. When he got the ball, if he had any space he was going for it. The confidence he has with his shot is what is giving him success. He also, while limited, brings the hustle defensively. So if SVG can implement a solid team D, he can be OK in it.

[DMAVS41]

I think 4.5 a year is his real value.

Not terrible, but not a great signing.

I like Meeks though, but it's all about value and 6.3 million a year for Meeks is not good value.

[ImKobe]

I think 4.5 a year is his real value.

Not terrible, but not a great signing.

I like Meeks though, but it's all about value and 6.3 million a year for Meeks is not good value.

It's definitely not a smart deal when you consider the fact that there was no bidding war and the Lakers didn't even show much interest in re-signing him, he could have been had for cheaper for sure.

[ihatetimthomas]

It's definitely not a smart deal when you consider the fact that there was no bidding war and the Lakers didn't even show much interest in re-signing him, he could have been had for cheaper for sure.

Lakers not getting into a bidding war with Meeks has absolutely nothing to do with Meeks and his ability. lakers are looking to sign big free agents. They are not spending any money on any mid tier player until they figure out what type of team they will have going forward.

[ottooooooo]

:lol pisstons

[ImKobe]

Lakers not getting into a bidding war with Meeks has absolutely nothing to do with Meeks and his ability. lakers are looking to sign big free agents. They are not spending any money on any mid tier player until they figure out what type of team they will have going forward.

Obviously.

[MVBallin2K]

He's more than just a shooter now. You guys do realize that Meeks ranked in the top tier in finishing under the basket this season right (67.8% FG from 0-3 feet)? I doubt many of you watched the Lakers last season, but whoever did knows that Meeks drastically improved his lay-up game. His body control during his drives has been amazing. Solid pickup for the Pistons, especially with SVG there.


Bingo, this guy made such drastic improvement from this past season to two seasons ago. Lakers fans would cringe when he'd attempt to finish or take it into the paint. This year, he proved he can do that and became even more dangerous by being able to fake out defenders trying to block his jumper then taking it in and finishing.

It'll be sad not to see the guy in purple and gold next year but good on him, on getting himself a nice little deal in Detroit. Pistons got themselves a nice player, even if overpaid.

[GOBB]

Amazing how Meeks can rob a bank without a mask. I give up I have no clue what Detroit is trying to do

[longtime lurker]

overpaid by like 1 mil but Detroit HAS to overpay freeagents.

You don't over pay for Jodie fvcking Meeks.

[Black and White]

Pretty high price for Meeks, 12/3 years is what I thought he would be worth, but good luck to him.

[longtime lurker]

Mike D'Antoni is an agent's best friend.

[bdreason]

I know SVG wants some shooters... but they way overpaid for Meeks.

[It's A VC3!!!]

And this is prime example why not all coaches can be managers too. Stan Van Gundy over-paid by about $10 million just because he wanted a three point shooter in his system. He could have gotten Anthony Morrow for much cheaper.

[DMAVS41]

You don't over pay for Jodie fvcking Meeks.

I agree it's not good value, but it's also not terrible.

It's only a 3 year deal as well.

But yea...this is where teams get into trouble. Just not great value here.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Son of a bitch, I thought he would be back for sure :ohwell:

Why is Stan overpaying so much for him?

[DMAVS41]

This makes the Thunder not making a move for him during last season so ****ing bad.

Not only would he have plugged a huge hole really well, but it would have given them the inside track on signing him.

No way is Meeks getting this deal coming from playing a reduced role on the Thunder in 25 minutes a game.

They could have resigned him at his actual value of 4 to 4.5 million.

Presti strikes again....:bowdown:

[-Lebron23-]

The Pistons are making some of the most stupid decisions in basketball.

This guy is not worth anything more than $4million. He can't play defense, handle the ball, pass or create any offense for others. The only hope for a team starting him should be getting the 1st round pick on that year's draft.

I understand his shooting makes him a somewhat valuable asset on that team but 3yr/20mil+?? Jennings + Meeks backcourt???? LMAO Detroit, consistently fvcking up ever since Darko happened.

[MP.Trey]

Overpaid for him without a doubt, but it's not so surprising considering how Detroit severely, severely lacked outside shooting last year. You knew they had to take a leap of faith on a shooter or two.

[Natureland]

This makes the Thunder not making a move for him during last season so ****ing bad.

Not only would he have plugged a huge hole really well, but it would have given them the inside track on signing him.

No way is Meeks getting this deal coming from playing a reduced role on the Thunder in 25 minutes a game.

They could have resigned him at his actual value of 4 to 4.5 million.

Presti strikes again....:bowdown:
:cry:

[Darius]

They gave a scrub backup 2 $6+/year??? WTF?

Honestly I'd pause at paying Meeks the minimum... plenty of guys can do what he does.

[Levity]

i wonder if theres a team option on the final year? if so, its not as bad as everyone is making it out to be. if there is indeed an option, hes essentially a 6 mil expiring contract next season. i hope SVG was keen enough to write that in there.

[HylianNightmare]

Dude got some good money

[DaSeba5]

It's not terrible, but I'm confused on Detroit's plan. I know they needed shooters, but that's a bit much for Meeks.

[bagelred]

And the overpaying begins...seems like a lot....is this the first signing of the free agency season?

[ZenMaster]

He doubled his scoring average from two season to last while only increasing 50% in minutes played, hopefully this is his new regular level as he goes into his prime years on this contract. 15 ppg on 40% 3pointers and 51% 2 pointers, 1.4 steals and only 1.4 turnovers.
Only three guards did all those specifc numbers better last year and that was Curry, Dragic and Meeks.

Everybody in here calling Meeks a shooter, but doesn't those numbers say scorer?

[chips93]

giving up on caldwell pope already? i thought he had a solid rookie year

[Levity]

Everybody in here calling Meeks a "shooter", but doesn't those numbers say "scorer"?

i wouldnt necessarily call him a "scorer" because a lot of his non 3 pt shots were back cuts or fast break lay ups. hes not really one to create his own shot. but it honestly doesnt matter, because he'll get ample opportunity to "score" with DET

[JimmyMcAdocious]

D'Antoni inflation on a really bad team that didn't play a lick of defense, tho.

I watched way more Lakers games than I wanted to last season. I thought Meeks was the most impressive of the bunch, relative to my preconceived notions... He can shoot, he did a surprisingly good job at finishing around the rim on fastbreaks, and he's a very average defender at best. That's about it.

[Johnny Jones]

He doubled his scoring average from two season to last while only increasing 50% in minutes played, hopefully this is his new regular level as he goes into his prime years on this contract. 15 ppg on 40% 3pointers and 51% 2 pointers, 1.4 steals and only 1.4 turnovers.
Only three guards did all those specifc numbers better last year and that was Curry, Dragic and Meeks.

Everybody in here calling Meeks a shooter, but doesn't those numbers say scorer?
He put on 15+ as the main scorer in the D'Antoni system.

[STATUTORY]

not surprised, shitty franchises like pistons need to overpay players in order to attract free agent to ****ing detroit

[MUGEN]

Overpaid surely?

but good for the dude..he is getting paid :applause:

[ihatetimthomas]

For all the poor deals/trades the Pistons have done, I actually think this is, quite sadly, one of their best in recent years. Now is he overpaid? Yes, but you need guys like him on your roster. He is a guy who will not complain about touches, give you consistent production, and he is a great locker room guy. This deal beats the current worst contract Josh Smith and dealing for Jennings.

[fatboy11]

giving up on caldwell pope already? i thought he had a solid rookie year

Not sure why you'd come to that conclusion. KCP wasn't ready for the league last season, but I'd be surprised if they were ready to give up on him. He's one of those guys that really HAD TO jump in the draft last season. He's not a top 10 pick this season, though he is a pretty player with a decent upside. He can also play the 3 if they go small. This Meeks signing is strictly about adding shooters.

[fatboy11]

Another thing that I don't think a lot of posters that are over-the-top bashing this signing are taking into consideration -- are any top tier or even second tier free agents going to sign with Detroit? No, obviously they're not. So it's not that bad if you pay a little more for Meeks if he helps your team. SVG has to get the Pistons to the point where they can attract impact free agents. This is just a 3 year deal. His deal will be expiring by the time they're really going to need cap space (assuming they do get things turned around).

[Nastradamus]

Meeks can shoot, works hard on improving and is pretty efficient. Shooters are expensive and we need them badly.

[ZenMaster]

i wouldnt necessarily call him a "scorer" because a lot of his non 3 pt shots were back cuts or fast break lay ups. hes not really one to create his own shot. but it honestly doesnt matter, because he'll get ample opportunity to "score" with DET

I think more teams today are looking for that type of scoring in a 6mill/yr two guard.

Knocking down three pointers and gettin points of backdoor cuts = constant threat off the ball.
Just a couple of seasons ago he missed a lot of layups on those back door cuts and fast break layups, back then I would have called him a shooter.

He's one of the players from last year I was hoping would be a Laker again next year, but I think he'll do good under Stan Van Gundy.

[PickernRoller]

Laker magic...:cheers: Good luck Meeks.

[noob cake]

What is Pistons gonna do with Meeks? They are not adding a final piece to a championship team.

Paying role players MLE and above salary is a surefire way of crippling your team. Big contracts + cheap role ring chasers is the way to go (unless you are the Spurs and are already playing basketball on a different level)

[JohnFreeman]

wtf

[longtime lurker]

Another thing that I don't think a lot of posters that are over-the-top bashing this signing are taking into consideration -- are any top tier or even second tier free agents going to sign with Detroit? No, obviously they're not. So it's not that bad if you pay a little more for Meeks if he helps your team. SVG has to get the Pistons to the point where they can attract impact free agents. This is just a 3 year deal. His deal will be expiring by the time they're really going to need cap space (assuming they do get things turned around).

Sorry but Pistons out bid themselves on this. They could have waited to offer Meeks that contract. I doubt teams would be lining up to give him that type of money. The guy is a bench player who's numbers were inflated playing in a D'Antoni offense and took advantage of injuries. Kudos to him because he's a hard worker and was often the best player on the Lakers but just ask the Kings how easy it is to trade contracts of overpaid players. If they rumor of them offering Isiah Thomas a contract is true then they'd have over 20 million tied into Jennings, Thomas and Meeks. At that price I'd rather throw a max contract at Klay thompson.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Not sure why you'd come to that conclusion. KCP wasn't ready for the league last season, but I'd be surprised if they were ready to give up on him. He's one of those guys that really HAD TO jump in the draft last season. He's not a top 10 pick this season, though he is a pretty player with a decent upside. He can also play the 3 if they go small. This Meeks signing is strictly about adding shooters.

KCP had a pretty awful rookie year but he has a lot of talent. I think he could really have a bounce back year under SVG.

This is WAY too much money for Meeks though, christ the Pistons are a joke...

[stalkerforlife]

I think Meeks is being a little underrated. Great off the ball movement. Knock down shooter. Plays with intensity seemingly all the time.

Maybe a little too much money, but a solid pickup.

[GoRapz]

Hey Pistons fans atleast you guys didn't sign Landry Fields to a 3 year, $20 million dollar deal

[fatboy11]

Sorry but Pistons out bid themselves on this. They could have waited to offer Meeks that contract. I doubt teams would be lining up to give him that type of money. The guy is a bench player who's numbers were inflated playing in a D'Antoni offense and took advantage of injuries. Kudos to him because he's a hard worker and was often the best player on the Lakers but just ask the Kings how easy it is to trade contracts of overpaid players. If they rumor of them offering Isiah Thomas a contract is true then they'd have over 20 million tied into Jennings, Thomas and Meeks. At that price I'd rather throw a max contract at Klay thompson.

You, or I, have absolutely no way of knowing who the Pistons were bidding against, if anyone. Pointless to speculate. We can only deal with what we know. Outside of Isaiah Thomas, it doesn't sound like anyone of real note is interested in joining the Pistons. Overpaid or not, Meeks is an upgrade to the roster and fits what SVG wants to do. It's not a crippling contract.

[fatboy11]

KCP had a pretty awful rookie year but he has a lot of talent. I think he could really have a bounce back year under SVG.

This is WAY too much money for Meeks though, christ the Pistons are a joke...

Awful year because he wasn't ready for the league and didn't get the greatest coaching when he did get there. Also, the structure just couldn't have been there in Detroit with everything that went on. I'm sure he learned a lot as a rookie and will benefit from really good coaching by SVG and staff.

[roffie]

was gonna be out of the league before mikey came along..

giving another man a contract

[GimmeThat]

it's only 3 years, and Drummond is still on his rookie contract for another 2.

it's a meh move, but maybe SVG saw the need for an effective shooter next to Jennings.

justifies his vlalue the first year, the second year is seeing how their PG situation may shake up, third year is either an expirer, or seeing whether or not there are reasons to keep him for the long haul.


not in love with the per amount, but probably also couldn't get him to sign a 3 yr contract without the amount.



having your per 36 number go up when you are given more minutes can't hurt you/your agent for negotiating a deal and all.

[UK2K]

His 3pt attempt rate actually went down, and as a result, his TS% went WAY up.

His 3pt % has gone up each year by taking smarter shots, and will probably be close to 44-45% on a Pistons team where is isn't the only option.

His defense has gotten better year by year.

I'm not in love with the amount, but there are other players who averaged less than 16ppg who are paid similar. He's got a niche that will probably only get better in the next three years, so why not?

[Torious]

Well, he's a better signing then Villanueva (who also had 16ppg in his contract season and got payed even more) was a few years back, that's for sure.

[JonatanRey]

Pistons have to overpay and he fits on Stan system.

Drummond is not Howard, though.

[bagelred]

Jodie Meeks :lol Stan Van Gundy's first move as an exec...not impressive.

[coin24]

Best of luck to meeks:cheers: great 3 point shooter..
Guess Detroit has to overpay, nobody wants to go there, plus he will fit right into stans system. Prob need another shooter still.

[Eric Cartman]

Another former Laker that gets paid, all because of playing with Kobe.

[dreamwarrior]

you guys acting like he got a max contract. 6.3m/yr is pretty weak for the best player on a storied franchise like the lakers.

[Droid101]

was gonna be out of the league before mikey came along..

giving another man a contract
Mike D

[Droid101]

you guys acting like he got a max contract. 6.3m/yr is pretty weak for the best player on a storied franchise like the lakers.
Disapproves.
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