World Cup -- Quarterfinals: France vs Germany (July 4th 2014)

[Gr]

**** it. We'll beat the French despite our coach no matter what self sabotage formation we start with.

:rockon:

[Andrei89]

I think the French win. Not impressed by the Germans this year. They beat a weak Portugal team, drew Ghana and only beat a bad USA team 1-0. Then they go into extra time with Algeria.


4 CB at the back + no wingers is a bad combo and the Germans have never looked slower than this.

Meanwhile, the French attack is fluid and beautiful this year, + Pogba is a boss in midfield.

I dont care who advances, but I put my money on France.

[fsvr54]

France is winning this

[Gr]

The Jogi Loew bashing in Germany is escalating with more and more experts joining in. Andreas Koepke said that Phillip Lahm's position is being discussed internally. Hopefully the booger muncher caves in. 4-2-3-1 with actual full backs, Baby! :bowdown: Come on.

[alenleomessi]

pogba is gonna tap that ass

[RagaZ]

pogba is gonna tap that ass
Not sure. He always seems to dissapear in big games.

[alenleomessi]

Not sure. He always seems to dissapear in big games.
like against nigeria?

[RagaZ]

like against nigeria?
In the CL for Juventus.

Against Bayern and Real Madrid.

He was sh*te against Nigeria, dont let the goal fool you.

[Andrew Wiggins]

Not sure. He always seems to dissapear in big games.

how could he possibly insult a pear during a big game? :biggums:

[dr.hee]

how could he possibly insult a pear during a big game? :biggums:

Don't do RagaZ like that, he's still learning English.

[alenleomessi]

In the CL for Juventus.

Against Bayern and Real Madrid.

He was sh*te against Nigeria, dont let the goal fool you.
against bayern.. last year when he was 19? he wasnt even a regular i dont think he played against bayern.. so how could anyone that doesnt play diss-a-pear?
he played well against RM and anyway he is the last guy you want to blame for their CL exit.. its on the coach and team's key players which are vidal, tevez and pirlo.. pogba was just a guy who was basically a nobody 2 years ago and had a breakout season

[RagaZ]

Under 2.5 goals in this game.

[dr.hee]

Under 2.5 goals in this game.

So you mean like...less than three? Or are you bargaining about it like your parents taught you back home at the bazaar before you swam across the English Channel?

[Gr]

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Awesome press conference so far.

I think Loew is caving on to the pressure. He didn't stubbornly say Lahm will play in midfield like he did before. He said he played well at right back (duh) and we'll see tomorrow where he will play.

I think we will see him at right back tomorrow. Please, god. That will solve so many problems.

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[Gr]

France, prepare your anus. :rockon:

[Andrew Wiggins]

about as evenly matched as it gets

neuer >> lloris
french defense is better
german midfield has the slight edge
benzema > any german striker

[alenleomessi]

i dont think lahm-schweini-kroos are better than pogba-matuidi-cabaye.. maybe on paper but not on the pitch

germans have an edge in GK ( lloris is quality though, easily top 10 GK in the world ) and in attack -muller-gotze-ozil are better than benzema-valbuena-giroud/griezmann

[yobore]

If it's not just gamesmanship the Germans have a bug and will die chasing around France's hyperactive midfielders. Pogba just needed some confidence now everything will move in slow-motion for him.

[Suguru101]

about as evenly matched as it gets

neuer >> lloris
french defense is better
german midfield has the slight edge
benzema > any german striker

Thomas Muller.

[b1imtf]

Thomas Muller.
:applause:

Hyped as **** for today. Can't come soon enough.

[dunksby]

I have Germany going all the way :cheers:

[Gr]

As much as I rate Toni Kroos, we need to dump him and play a real 10 in the middle. Either Oezil or Goetze. Either of them would excel there. Tired of seeing them played out of position without support from behind in the last few games and then getting bashed by people.

Lahm--Hummels--Boateng/Mertesacker--Durm/Boateng
-------Khedira--Schweinsteiger/Kroos
---Mueller-----Oezil-----Schurrle
-------------Goetze/Klose

Either Goetze or Klose would be fine with me at the 9 or "9". The people who say Goetze at the "9" doesn't work are wrong and take the games where it supposedly didn't work completely out of context (other experiments in the formation didn't work, etc.). We can play very sexy with Goetze as "9", IMO. Mueller and Schurrle can both shift into that position too during actual gameplay. It would make us unpredictable.

[b1imtf]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

I'd like to see this, but if Durm hasn't played until now... Not chance tbh.

Very sexy line up. I would be happy with it. I doubt we'll see something as sexy as that though.

Well, at least it seems as though he's going to move Lahm back into defense. :bowdown:

[StephHamann]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

1940 our coach sucked big time but we still won convincingly


lets do this!

:roll: :no:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

[Nick Young]

If the Germans lose to the surrender monkeys, there can be no excuses.

[Gr]

[QUOTE=Mr Clutch Melo]

[Mr Clutch Melo]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

[QUOTE=Mr Clutch Melo]You trust

[b1imtf]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE=Gr

[b1imtf]

Neuer
Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Durm
Khedira
Kroos-Schweinsteiger
Draxler--------Schurrle
Muller

That would be pretty nice too.

[Lebowsky]

Neuer
Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Durm
Khedira
Kroos-Schweinsteiger
Draxler--------Schurrle
Muller

That would be pretty nice too.
Khedira can't play there. I think it's more than proven by now.
Edit: actually, he can't play at all, but that's a different story.

[Gr]

Neuer
Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Durm
Khedira
Kroos-Schweinsteiger
Draxler--------Schurrle
Muller

That would be pretty nice too.

:biggums:

[StephHamann]

He is not the player he was in 2010! What happened to Ozil?

praised to much, became lazy as ****

g

[Gr]

[QUOTE=StephHamann]praised to much, became lazy as ****

g

[StephHamann]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

[QUOTE=StephHamann]praised to much, became lazy as ****

g

[b1imtf]

Khedira can't play there. I think it's more than proven by now.
Edit: actually, he can't play at all, but that's a different story.
Low will put either him or Lahm at DM... I tried a mix of what he'd do with some of my personal preferences. :D

[StephHamann]

[QUOTE=Gr

[b1imtf]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

[QUOTE=StephHamann]Kroos played his best games at the 10 with bayern munich in 2012/2013

--------------Schweini---Martinez--------
---M

[Random_Guy]

Put 3 dollars on Germany, will win three dollars if Germany goes through :rockon:

[DonD13]

Put 3 dollars on Germany, will win three dollars if Germany goes through :rockon:

where i bet you get 2.6 for Germany and 2.75 for France

looks like a toss-up on paper

[Random_Guy]

where i bet you get 2.6 for Germany and 2.75 for France

looks like a toss-up on paper
:banana: that extra 40 cents will be put to good use:bowdown:

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE=StephHamann]i watched every game of g

[DonD13]

:banana: that extra 40 cents will be put to good use:bowdown:

dude, it's an extra $1.8

when you invest it with annual 3%, you'll have $4715 in 30 years!


EDIT: the 2.6 in my post meant that you get your bet multiplied with 2.6.
i'm sorry, I forgot that you have those weird moneyline odds...

[Gr]

French women > German women

French men < German men

[dunksby]

-----------Neuer-------------
Lahm--Mert--Hummels--Boateng
--------Schweinsteiger-------
----Muller---Kroos----Goetze/Schurrle
-----------Klose---Podolski------

Fat chance, I know :lol

[DonD13]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Ratnik]

The great grandson of Uncle Adi, Herr Klose, is gonna beat the record of Ronaldo in this game. Book it.

[alenleomessi]

this has the potential to be the greatest WC day ever

[Marlo_Stanfield]

after the Entire nation shat on L

[9512]

[QUOTE=Gr

[9512]

Hopefully France wins. I don't care about soccer. I live in France and if they lose there will be vandalism.

[alenleomessi]

germany's odds dropped from yesterday because of the mild fly-symptoms that 7 of their players have

[RagaZ]

this has the potential to be the greatest WC day ever

July 1st in 06' was better on paper.

England-Portugal as the early game and then Brazil-France.

Beckham, Rooney, Gerrard vs C. Ronaldo, Figo, Deco.
Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka vs Zidane, Henry, Vieira.

[J.101]

Dis gon be gud brahs!

But yeah I agree '06 was unreal the drama the Rooney stamp/Ronaldo wink and penalties then followed up by Zidane curbstomping all of brazil despite being "washed up". Hopefully this lives upto to the billing!

[Andrew Wiggins]

what's germany's expected 11?

for france, i hope koscielny starts over sakho

[dr.hee]

what's germany's expected 11?

Last thing I've read is:

Neuer
Boateng - Mertesacker - Hummels - H

[Andrew Wiggins]

[QUOTE=dr.hee]Last thing I've read is:

Neuer
Boateng - Mertesacker - Hummels - H

[brownmamba00]

[QUOTE=dr.hee]Last thing I've read is:

Neuer
Boateng - Mertesacker - Hummels - H

[dr.hee]

looks like some surprises to the lineup

neuer
lahm, boateng, hummels, howedes
schweinsteiger, khedira, kroos
muller, klose, ozil

finally some direct play and no mertesacker

france as expected

lloris
debuchy, varane, sakho, evra
pogba, cabaye, matuidi
valbuena, benzema, griezmann

My reaction reading through the lineup, realizing Lahm as RB and Klose starting...


http://www.businessinsider.com/image/5188f5aceab8ea0c40000001/wizards-celebration.gif

[Gr]

Lahm at RB. :applause:

Hoewedes at LB again????? God, no. Hasn't he watched the last few games? :facepalm

What's with Oezil on the wing? Can we please play with a 10 at the 10??? No Schurrle?? :(

[Gr]

My reaction reading through the lineup, realizing Lahm as RB and Klose starting...


http://www.businessinsider.com/image/5188f5aceab8ea0c40000001/wizards-celebration.gif

I'd drop Klose for Schurrle. I'd also drop Kroos and move either Goetze or Oezil to the 10.

[Gr]

Loew caved in to the pressure about Lahm. Can't say he's gotten any less idiotic though.

[Gr]

Can't believe the dumbass is putting Hoewedes at LB again and not playing Oezil at the 10 but on the wing.

Still better than the last few formations though.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

If Germany dont win it all , will they fire Low ? I mean he has had like 3 tournaments to prove himself.

[Nick Young]

hope neuer gets caught out today on one of his stupid sweeper keeper tackles

[alenleomessi]

hope neuer gets caught out today on one of his stupid sweeper keeper tackles
they would be out if it wasnt for neuer

anyway i like both lineups, this should be a cracking match

[Gr]

hope neuer gets caught out today on one of his stupid sweeper keeper tackles

And even if he did, then what? He has prevented FAR more goals with his playing style than he has caused.

[Andrew Wiggins]

hope neuer gets caught out today on one of his stupid sweeper keeper tackles

he won't be as exposed with boateng and hummels back there. mertesacker was the main culprit in almost all of those situations

[Gr]

he won't be as exposed with boateng and hummels back there. mertesacker was the main culprit in almost all of those situations

:applause:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

hope neuer gets caught out today on one of his stupid sweeper keeper tackles

He has that Peter Schmeichel mentality and strikers are a bit afraid of him:lol

Benzema dont strike me as a guy that will go for those 50-50 balls anyway.

[T_L_P]

Germany wins 3-0. Lahm scores a hat-trick.

[SAKOTXA]

Go France

[Duggrr]

Let's Go Germany

[Duggrr]

I love how forced this political message is :lol

[yobore]

British announcers pretending that 80 degrees is deadly hot

[Nick Young]

British announcers pretending that 80 degrees is deadly hot
Forreal it gets me every time, Summer in LA it was always 100-105 and we played soccer and shit with AYSO as little kids, everyone was fine. These euros are soft.

[Random_Guy]

dude, it's an extra $1.8

when you invest it with annual 3%, you'll have $4715 in 30 years!


EDIT: the 2.6 in my post meant that you get your bet multiplied with 2.6.
i'm sorry, I forgot that you have those weird moneyline odds...
:applause: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Duggrr]

Kroos!:bowdown:

[b1imtf]

Hummels you gorgeous man.

[SAKOTXA]

What a pass from Kroos. Amazing header

[Random_Guy]

its happening!!
lets go 3 dollars

[alenleomessi]

how the hell does varane start over koscielny??

[DonDadda59]

Nothing more American than watching Zee Germans taking on the French from the sidelines. Only a matter of time before the Frogs surrender and need Uncle Sam's intervention.

[pezt]

These ****ing refs man

[CarlosBoozer]

That is one jacked up referee :biggums:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Never a freekick to Kroos in the first place but soft defending from Varane tho.

[Random_Guy]

wtf man,

[Random_Guy]

damn so many missed opportunities :(

[Nick Young]

have the surrender monkeys surrendered yet?

[Mr Clutch Melo]

This game:facepalm :(

[bdreason]

Do they not give out cards for flopping in World Cup play?

[yobore]

lol @ 1 minute stoppage time. It took longer than that just for the time the German guy took a ball to the head

[Gr]

Our offense is complete garbage. Can we please play a 10 at the 10 and bring Schurrle?

Why is our coach so hell bent on making our offense impotent?

[hookul]

Everyone chill the **** out. Not a bad game, lots of tactis in there.

[alenleomessi]

poor first half like most of the 1/8 matches but at least there is a goal

[hookul]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

What are you talking about? We are up 1-0, could have gotten a penalty if not for Klose theatrical play and are in general control. What more do you want?

I want our offense to stop being garbage. We can't rely on dead ball situations. We need to go for the jugular now. France has to attack and open up a lot more.

[Gr]

Schweinsteiger out. Move Kroos into his position. Bring Schurrle for Klose and move Oezil to the 10. Put Goetze somewhere in the front 4.

[hookul]

[QUOTE=Gr

[DonDadda59]

have the surrender monkeys surrendered yet?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2777017856/h8AE307DC/

[moaz]

[QUOTE=Gr

[hookul]

I can't believe how often France has now been offside without them calling it.

[pezt]

This ref is so bad.

[SAKOTXA]

People were complaining about the Argentina Switzerland game? This game is a snoozefest

[hookul]

Seems like Klose is out of gas. In that case good to get him off and Schuerrle will again do something good.

[hookul]

and yes, the refs are terrible in this game.

[Nick Young]

French gonna surrender:banana: :banana: :banana:

[Nick Young]

Perfect contrast of the surrender mentality of the Euros and the never say die attitude of the Americans

[LJJ]

Klose would have ended the game there.

[LJJ]

Hell Germany. I need you to score one more to benefit my bracket.

[bdreason]

Germany getting the early goal turned this game into a :sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

[1987_Lakers]

German goalkeeper clutch:bowdown:

[alenleomessi]

neuer is probably already the best GK of all time

[Overdrive]

**** Germany.

[alenleomessi]

poor offensive display by both teams... both GKs were great, german's defense is obviously much better with hummels and lahm and i think schweini played well.. from the french i think evra and cabaye played well and thats about it.. pogba was very underwhelming.. looks passive at times.. like a football version of andrew wiggins..


enough with the european football though, colombia-brazil will be the real shit

[ArbitraryWater]

neuer is probably already the best GK of all time

:lol

[Done_And_Done]

Why does Germany even bother playing until the Semis. It's automatic for these guys...

[Jasi]

Low did a great job today, he had his mids stop the French mids from advancing. German fans keep hating on him but hey, here's the semis.

[9512]

Ironic the french didn't wear white jerseys (surrender and all)

[Gr]

We could be so much better. Oezil on the left wing and Schurrle on the right wing. :lol If you play Oezil out of position at least play him on the right. WTH? I haven't seen anything from Kroos so far that justifies him playing at the 10.

[Gr]

Low did a great job today, he had his mids stop the French mids from advancing. German fans keep hating on him but hey, here's the semis.

The team is winning despite Loew. Playing Oezil on the left and Schurrle on the right is just completely nonsensical.

We could be much better. Could beat this French team by 3 goals without him sabotaging our offense.

It's not like Kroos is a defensive mastermind either. I see not advantage from playing him at the 10. Put Goetze or Oezil there and stop wasting them on the wing.

[Gr]

Loew got bailed out by the Hummels header. We weren't creating anything on offense until France opened up a little bit more and we got a couple counterattacks.

No Hummels header = Germany loses because of Jogi Loew, IMO

[moaz]

[QUOTE=Gr

[dunksby]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

What's wrong with you? If Schurrle and Muller weren't so clumsy it would have been a 3-0 win, 3-1 to be fair.

Reread the first two sentences.

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

Kroos is really good at winning balls high up the pitch and keeping the ball.

Low knows Kroos wont do anything risky to create lots of chances, but he will keep possession, and he will generate chances from winning the ball high up the pitch and starting early breaks to Muller.

All those chances we had today. :lol

Completely lackluster offense and only got some good chances towards the end of the game when the then current result forced France to serve them to us on a silver platter.

[hookul]

[QUOTE=Gr

[Gr]

Damn are you a negative sissy

Ahh, so criticism = negative sissy. Thanks for the insult. :cheers: I'm happy we are through, but you are blinded by the result. Germany is better than what we've seen at the tournament. If we win despite Jogi Loew it will go down as the greatest achievement in German world cup history.

[Overdrive]

The way the game unfolded favoured Germany. They didn't do alotaside from parking the bus after the goal. They even stopped attacks in order to save possession. Their defense improved massively, though.

The french game didn't unfold. They went away from pushing the ball though the middle and Valbuena. With only Valbuena & Evra left to create and mostly trying to serve with crosses there was no chance. Deschamps reacted to late bringing the tall Giroud.

[pezt]

neuer is probably already the best GK of all time

People might laugh at this but I seriously don't remember seeing anyone who is or was better than him. He literally has no weaknesses and has revolutionized some aspects of being a goalkeeper.



I see it coming. Germany will play like shit every game but end up winning the WC just like in the old days.

Also I was extremely disappointed by the effort of the French. It seemed like they didn't care at all.

[BasedTom]

This is a simply great generation of players for Germany.

[Shade8780]

Shit boring game.

[hookul]

[QUOTE=Gr

[The_Yearning]

France today:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrtuuARCIAEL0d3.png:large

[Gr]

Mach dich mal locker, das war keine Beleidigung, nur "friendly banter". Alles in allem war D in diesem Spiel klar besser und hatte ueber die gesamten 90min gesehen klare Torchancen um noch ein paar mehr zu machen. Die Defensive stand auch diesmal gut. Das war immerhin das Viertelfinale gegen einen sehr starken und offensiv sehr gefaehrlichen Gegner der 8 Tore in der Vorrunde geschossen hatte und neben Kolumbien das einzige Achtelfinale hatte, das klar und ohne Zittern gewonnen hatte. Du weisst genau, dass es keine Garantien gibt im Fussball und soviel nun rumzumeckern wenn wir gerade relativ solide (Ich hab das Spiel mit englischen Kommentaren geguckt, alle haben zugestimmt, dass D sehr verdient weitergekommen ist) das Halbfinale erreicht haben ist einfach "negative sissy". Du hast keine positiv und negative Kontrollen hier, also wer sagt dir denn so sicher, dass wir mit einer anderen Aufstellung besser abgeschnitten haetten? Gegen Algerien gebe ich dir absolut recht, da war die Aufstellung Mist und wurde erst verlutzungsbedingt dann besser. Aber hier lief doch alles von Anfang an recht solide. Was will man mehr?

Okay, okay. Manchmal bin ich etwas zu kritisch. I habe einfach keine Lust mehr auf einen Titel zu warten mit dieser super Truppe. Die komischen Veraenderungen die unser Trainer macht bringen mich halt auf die Palme. Ich habe auch nicht daran gedacht dass es heute schon 'mal wieder ziemlich heiss wahr mit einer etwas hohen Luftfeuchtigkeit. Unsere Spielweise heute hatte wahrscheinlich auch etwas damit zu tun. Trotzdem glaube ich das der Jogi uns zurueck haelt. Ein paar unnachvollziehbare Entscheidungen. Er laesst zum Beispiel Schurrle und Oezil beide auf ihren schwaecheren Seiten spielen. Einfach nur zum Kopfschuetteln.

edit: Falls wir auscheiden aber so gut gespielt haben wie wir es koennen dann waehre es fuehr mich eigentlich gar nicht so schlimm. Ich hasse nur dieses "was waehre wenn" Gefuehl dass der Jogi mir gibt. Hat er mir schon gegen Italien vor zwei Jahren gegeben.

[FKAri]

Mach dich mal locker, das war keine Beleidigung, nur "friendly banter". Alles in allem war D in diesem Spiel klar besser und hatte ueber die gesamten 90min gesehen klare Torchancen um noch ein paar mehr zu machen. Die Defensive stand auch diesmal gut. Das war immerhin das Viertelfinale gegen einen sehr starken und offensiv sehr gefaehrlichen Gegner der 8 Tore in der Vorrunde geschossen hatte und neben Kolumbien das einzige Achtelfinale hatte, das klar und ohne Zittern gewonnen hatte. Du weisst genau, dass es keine Garantien gibt im Fussball und soviel nun rumzumeckern wenn wir gerade relativ solide (Ich hab das Spiel mit englischen Kommentaren geguckt, alle haben zugestimmt, dass D sehr verdient weitergekommen ist) das Halbfinale erreicht haben ist einfach "negative sissy". Du hast keine positiv und negative Kontrollen hier, also wer sagt dir denn so sicher, dass wir mit einer anderen Aufstellung besser abgeschnitten haetten? Gegen Algerien gebe ich dir absolut recht, da war die Aufstellung Mist und wurde erst verlutzungsbedingt dann besser. Aber hier lief doch alles von Anfang an recht solide. Was will man mehr?

Please...There's no need to yell.

[Gr]

You know what Neuer's most badass action was today? His save on Varane's header. He made it look so easy. He didn't take an early jump (which most goal keepers do instinctively when they anticipate a good header. A little hop before taking off again) but his nerves of steel allowed him to just calmly stay on his feet not give a **** and simply hop over there and pick it up in the top corner without having to break a sweat or flying to barely save it and turn it into a corner. Of course, he also has the speed and athleticism to do that.

[Overdrive]

Mach dich mal locker, das war keine Beleidigung, nur "friendly banter". Alles in allem war D in diesem Spiel klar besser und hatte ueber die gesamten 90min gesehen klare Torchancen um noch ein paar mehr zu machen. Die Defensive stand auch diesmal gut. Das war immerhin das Viertelfinale gegen einen sehr starken und offensiv sehr gefaehrlichen Gegner der 8 Tore in der Vorrunde geschossen hatte und neben Kolumbien das einzige Achtelfinale hatte, das klar und ohne Zittern gewonnen hatte. Du weisst genau, dass es keine Garantien gibt im Fussball und soviel nun rumzumeckern wenn wir gerade relativ solide (Ich hab das Spiel mit englischen Kommentaren geguckt, alle haben zugestimmt, dass D sehr verdient weitergekommen ist) das Halbfinale erreicht haben ist einfach "negative sissy". Du hast keine positiv und negative Kontrollen hier, also wer sagt dir denn so sicher, dass wir mit einer anderen Aufstellung besser abgeschnitten haetten? Gegen Algerien gebe ich dir absolut recht, da war die Aufstellung Mist und wurde erst verlutzungsbedingt dann besser. Aber hier lief doch alles von Anfang an recht solide. Was will man mehr?

Das Problem bei euch ist, dass der Trainer Dinge probiert, die nicht notwendig sind. M

[StephHamann]

ugly germans are back :rockon:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

[QUOTE=Gr

[ArbitraryWater]

Mach dich mal locker, das war keine Beleidigung, nur "friendly banter". Alles in allem war D in diesem Spiel klar besser und hatte ueber die gesamten 90min gesehen klare Torchancen um noch ein paar mehr zu machen. Die Defensive stand auch diesmal gut. Das war immerhin das Viertelfinale gegen einen sehr starken und offensiv sehr gefaehrlichen Gegner der 8 Tore in der Vorrunde geschossen hatte und neben Kolumbien das einzige Achtelfinale hatte, das klar und ohne Zittern gewonnen hatte. Du weisst genau, dass es keine Garantien gibt im Fussball und soviel nun rumzumeckern wenn wir gerade relativ solide (Ich hab das Spiel mit englischen Kommentaren geguckt, alle haben zugestimmt, dass D sehr verdient weitergekommen ist) das Halbfinale erreicht haben ist einfach "negative sissy". Du hast keine positiv und negative Kontrollen hier, also wer sagt dir denn so sicher, dass wir mit einer anderen Aufstellung besser abgeschnitten haetten? Gegen Algerien gebe ich dir absolut recht, da war die Aufstellung Mist und wurde erst verlutzungsbedingt dann besser. Aber hier lief doch alles von Anfang an recht solide. Was will man mehr?

:biggums:

Why do y'all start posting in German outta the blue? Swear this was a setup lol... Reminds me when DonD just started in German all of the sudden lol..

What's your main acc?

[Overdrive]

:biggums:

Why do y'all start posting in German outta the blue? Swear this was a setup lol... Reminds me when DonD just started in German all of the sudden lol..

What's your main acc?

It's weird, but maybe he thought the point would come across better.

[knickballer]

I know alot of Germans are bashing the formation and style of this current German squad but maybe it's what needed to win. Past few tourny's germany looked great and played the most exciting football but eventually crashed out to more defensive oriented teams.

As long as Germany isn't playing the anti-football lineup(Lahm-Khedira midfield, 4 CB's) they should be the favorites. Like it or not the defensive and disciplined teams win the World Cup. Plus Germany still has enough quality in the final third anyway. They could use a healthy Mario Gomez though

[Marlo_Stanfield]

I know alot of Germans are bashing the formation and style of this current German squad but maybe it's what needed to win. Past few tourny's germany looked great and played the most exciting football but eventually crashed out to more defensive oriented teams.

As long as Germany isn't playing the anti-football lineup(Lahm-Khedira midfield, 4 CB's) they should be the favorites. Like it or not the defensive and disciplined teams win the World Cup. Plus Germany still has enough quality in the final third anyway. They could use a healthy Mario Gomez though
no, we couldnt.
Klose at this stage of his career is still better than Mario Gomez

[Overdrive]

no, we couldnt.
Klose at this stage of his career is still better than Mario Gomez

Klose is better, but he can only effectively play 30 mins and Gomez is better up front than M