Replace MJ with current Lebron on the 1992 Bulls

[sportjames23]

With the rules in place in 1992, do the Bulls get past the Knicks in the playoffs. Remember, those Knicks took the Bulls to 7 games in that year's playoffs and gave them their toughest challenge. And the refs let the Knicks rough the Bulls up over those 7 games.

[Megabox!]

Why do you guys always replace Jordan with LBJ in these scenarios? Why not KD or Kobe?

[Angel Face]

Lebron would shat his pants, will quit basketball after the season. He can't handle physicality.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lebron would shat his pants, will quit basketball after the season. He can't handle physicality.
LOL he struggled with the physicality of Hibbert, West, PG, and Stephenson. What's he going to do with Riley's Knicks? Ewing, Xavier, Mason, Oakley ... he'll be biting those finger nails again.

'91 - Ring
'92 - Lose to Knicks
'93 - Lose to Knicks
'94 - Lose to Houston
'95 - Lose to Magic
'96 - Ring
'97 - Lose to Jazz
'98 - Ring

[dubeta]

Rings wouldve come too easy, Stern would have to limit LeBron to only play 20 mins or someshit to keep it competitive

[Warfan]

Nothing against you OP, but when someone in this thread will say LeBron can get past them you'll just flame them and say they're a dumbass bran stan. So what's the point?

Ive seen everybody say to stop comparing the 2 but then there's like a dozen threads in 2 days, saying replace bran with mj or mj with bran or something like that. It's fukcing annoying.


Anyway here's a few of MJ games from that series :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2cfMsmmtsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtmoxGEgg5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbbNkjD1ugo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWsgkauZb-U


For the record I think he has a much better chance of getting past the Knicks in 93 than 92

[Angel Face]

LOL he struggled with the physicality of Hibbert, West, PG, and Stephenson. What's he going to do with Riley's Knicks? Ewing, Xavier, Mason, Oakley ... he'll be biting those finger nails again.

'91 - Ring
'92 - Lose to Knicks
'93 - Lose to Knicks
'94 - Lose to Houston
'95 - Lose to Magic
'96 - Ring
'97 - Lose to Jazz
'98 - Ring

Don't forget, he whined about Kirk Hinrich tackling him. Kirk Hinrich... :oldlol:

[sportjames23]

Nothing against you OP, but when someone in this thread will say LeBron can get past them you'll just flame them and say they're a dumbass bran stan. So what's the point?

Ive seen everybody say to stop comparing the 2 but then there's like a dozen threads in 2 days, saying replace bran with mj or mj with bran or something like that. It's fukcing annoying.


Anyway here's a few of MJ games from that series :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2cfMsmmtsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtmoxGEgg5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbbNkjD1ugo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWsgkauZb-U


For the record I think he has a much better chance of getting past the Knicks in 93 than 92


I have no problem with anyone explaining why they think Bron would lead those Bulls over the Knicks. It's when they say dumb crap like "Bron would easily run over the Knicks" or something like that that I jump on their case.

[TheMan]

Bran wouldn't lead those Bulls to the title, not enough All Stars or HOFers...

[JohnFreeman]

7 rings because he wouldn't go to baseball. Stacked team.

[TheCorporation]

Bron isn't losing to any team with a primp Pippen and Horrace Grant, along with decent role players and Phil Jackson at the helm.

[SamuraiSWISH]

7 rings because he wouldn't go to baseball. Stacked team.
Nah, he'd leave to go join Houston after not being able to beat the Knicks in '92, and '93. Taking his talents to NASA's headquarters. Coward, ring chasing in his prime beta. This dude was busy not winning championships with Wade, Bosh, and Ray Allen.

[Kvnzhangyay]

I can see him beating every team tbh except for Houston and maybe the jazz and sonics

for the record, i think houston would have beat chicago even if it was mj and he had not quit

[JohnFreeman]

Nah, he'd leave to go join Houston after not being able to beat the Knicks in '92, and '93. Taking his talents to NASA's headquarters. Coward, ring chasing in his prime beta. This dude was busy not winning championships with Wade, Bosh, and Ray Allen.
Wow injured Wade and old Allen. STACKED

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wow injured Wade and old Allen. STACKED
Wade was MVP caliber in 2011 and they still lost thanks to Bron. Old Shuttlesworth gifted, and saved LeBron's legacy with his one true championship in 2013. The 2012 one is ".5" a ring. Lockout season, unfair advantage to youth core based teams. Thus OKC, and Miami in the Finals.

[KBaller33]

Wade was MVP caliber in 2011 and they still lost thanks to Bron. Old Shuttlesworth gifted, and saved LeBron's legacy with his one true championship in 2013. The 2012 one is ".5" a ring. Lockout season, unfair advantage to youth core based teams. Thus OKC, and Miami in the Finals.

So is Duncan's ring in '99 .5 too?

[Byobob]

Wade was MVP caliber in 2011 and they still lost thanks to Bron. Old Shuttlesworth gifted, and saved LeBron's legacy with his one true championship in 2013. The 2012 one is ".5" a ring. Lockout season, unfair advantage to youth core based teams. Thus OKC, and Miami in the Finals.


IIRC, the Heat also dealt with injuries in 2012 playoffs. Bosh was out for after a game in ECSF and came back(not 100%) game 6 in ECF.

[TheCorporation]

Wade was MVP caliber in 2011 and they still lost thanks to Bron. Old Shuttlesworth gifted, and saved LeBron's legacy with his one true championship in 2013. The 2012 one is ".5" a ring. Lockout season, unfair advantage to youth core based teams. Thus OKC, and Miami in the Finals.

Thought you were legit, man. You trollin' here? :biggums:

[SamuraiSWISH]

So is Duncan's ring in '99 .5 too?
Worse, I don't even count it. Duncan has only 4 rings in my book. They faced an #8th seed from the East, sans their best player in Ewing. So many players, teams came into camp out of shape. The condensed schedule worked as a detriment to veteran core teams like the Jazz. 1999 was the worst basketball season I've ever seen played. At least the 2011 season players did their best to stay in shape. We didn't see career's end, or players blowing up in weight never to be the same again ala Shawn Kemp, Vin Baker, etc.

[TheMan]

I'll go further, the 90s Bulls would've never happened if he were drafted in 84 by Chicago. You think LeBron would've have stuck it out waiting for Pippen and Grant to develope? :oldlol:

Bran would've bolted for the door after the 89 season, he would've joined Patrick Ewing and recruited Charles Barkley to NY to stack the odds.

[jaybee682]

They would get molly whopped by the Knicks.

[Suguru101]

The problem is that Pippen and LeBron don't fit, they're the same position and skills. You are putting him in an awkward situation. But what if you give him an All-NBA 2nd team shooting guard for his runs?

Switch Pippen for an equal age Clyde Drexler for 1991-1998 and pair him with LeBron. That is fair. And that team is as good as the MJ/Pippen Bulls.

[livinglegend]

Replace Jordan with 2012 Lebron, Heat loses in 2nd round against the Pacers.
Replace Lebron with 90s Jordan, Bulls win 7 rings.
Remember, at one point, Bulls were contenders without Jordan.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

LOL he struggled with the physicality of Hibbert, West, PG, and Stephenson. What's he going to do with Riley's Knicks? Ewing, Xavier, Mason, Oakley ... he'll be biting those finger nails again.

'91 - Ring
'92 - Lose to Knicks
'93 - Lose to Knicks
'94 - Lose to Houston
'95 - Lose to Magic
'96 - Ring
'97 - Lose to Jazz
'98 - Ring

No ring in 96 for sure. Those Sonics were nasty and played great defense on Jordan. No way he wins again the Jazz in 98. He wouldn't win a single one championship in the 90s

[livinglegend]

I'll go further, the 90s Bulls would've never happened if he were drafted in 84 by Chicago. You think LeBron would've have stuck it out waiting for Pippen and Grant to develope? :oldlol:

Bran would've bolted for the door after the 89 season, he would've joined Patrick Ewing and recruited Charles Barkley to NY to stack the odds.

He waited 7 years for the Cavaliers.
By Jordan s 7th year, Pippen and Grant were both good players.
You lose again. :banana: :banana:

[livinglegend]

No ring in 96 for sure. Those Sonics were nasty and played great defense on Jordan. No way he wins again the Jazz in 98. He wouldn't win a single one championship in the 90s

Easy to make statements like these when you know you cant be proven wrong.

[TheMan]

He waited 7 years for the Cavaliers.
By Jordan s 7th year, Pippen and Grant were both good players.
You lose again. :banana: :banana:
2/5


Stay salty

[livinglegend]

2/5


Stay salty

that s better than 1/9 :banana: :banana:

[dubeta]

2/5


Stay salty

ur idol is a present day demar derozan
stay mad

[TheMan]

that s better than 1/9 :banana: :banana:
1/9? :confusedshrug:

[livinglegend]

1/9? :confusedshrug:
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

stay salty

[TheMan]

ur idol is a present day demar derozan
stay mad
:biggums:
Only a moron actually believes that, I know you really don't believe that but you're salty and desperate as fvck. :oldlol:

6/6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2/5

you mad, bro?

[TheMan]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

stay salty
How the hell can I be salty if I have no idea what 1/9 means :confusedshrug:

What bullshit record did you desperate Bran stans come up with, serious question?

2/5

[livinglegend]

:biggums:
Only a moron actually believes, I know you really don't believe but you're salty and desperate as ****. :oldlol:

6/6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2/5

you mad, bro?

nice try, but you cant deny that 9/9 >>>>>>> 6/6.


next

[livinglegend]

How the hell can I be salty if I have no idea what 1/9 means :confusedshrug:

What bullshit record did you desperate Bran stans come up with, serious question?

2/5

dude, stop acting like you dont know.
1/9 is way worse than 2/5.
Even 2/9 is worse than 2/5.
Get your facts straight before trolling.
You are a troll ,confirmed.

[Marchesk]

nice try, but you cant deny that 9/9 >>>>>>> 6/6

Don't they both equal one?

[livinglegend]

Don't they both equal one?

depends on which perspective you look at it. Percentage wise, yes they are equal. But from another perspective, 9/9 shooting is better than a 6/6 shooting. Same percentage, but more mades.

[TheMan]

nice try, but you cant deny that 9/9 >>>>>>> 6/6.


next
Is it 1/9 or 9/9? Make up your damn mind. And what does 9/9 stand for, I honestly don't know. I know you Bran stans have been getting crucified by 2/5, and it is pretty effective in shutting you guys up because, let's be honest, 2 wins in 5 finals does suck, real talk.

So what the hell does 1/9 and 9/9 mean?

[livinglegend]

Is it 1/9 or 9/9? Make up your damn mind. And what does 9/9 stand for, I honestly don't know. I know you Bran stans have been getting crucified by 2/5, and it is pretty effective in shutting you guys up because, let's be honest, 2 wins in 5 finals does suck, real talk.

So what the hell does 1/9 and 9/9 mean?
1-9 is Jordan s record without Pippen in the playoffs :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
That s pretty bad. :oldlol:

[TheMan]

dude, stop acting like you dont know.
1/9 is way worse than 2/5.
Even 2/9 is worse than 2/5.
Get your facts straight before trolling.
You are a troll ,confirmed.
Yeah I'm a troll with green bars, GTFO

6/6 means 6 Finals, 6 wins for Jordan
2/5 is Bran's Finals record

Who's 9/9?

[dubeta]

Yeah I'm a troll with green bars, GTFO

6/6 means 6 Finals, 6 wins for Jordan
2/5 is Bran's Finals record

Who's 9/9?

Me in owning you

[TheMan]

1-9 is Jordan s record without Pippen in the playoffs :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
That s pretty bad. :oldlol:
Aw man, lol. Lame!

First, the East didn't suck back then (Celtics and Pistons), MJ had not one player who was an All Star teammate from 84-90 and a few of those series that the Bulls won in the late 80s, Pippen was a bench player scoring under 10 a game, lol

I let you ignorantly troll though since you got nothing else :oldlol:

[livinglegend]

Yeah I'm a troll with green bars, GTFO

6/6 means 6 Finals, 6 wins for Jordan
2/5 is Bran's Finals record

Who's 9/9?

yup, Euroleague has green bars. Troll confirmed.

[livinglegend]

Aw man, lol. Lame!

stay salty little boy.
Now, go cry in the closet. :cry: :cry:

[pauk]

With the rules in place in 1992, do the Bulls get past the Knicks in the playoffs. Remember, those Knicks took the Bulls to 7 games in that year's playoffs and gave them their toughest challenge. And the refs let the Knicks rough the Bulls up over those 7 games.

Who knows? But i would say more likely than not.... i mean Lebron is really not that bad of a individual player you know, compared to anybody in NBA history....

[TheMan]

livinglegend and dubeta still shook as fvck that Bran is

2/5

:oldlol:

[pauk]

Lebron would shat his pants, will quit basketball after the season. He can't handle physicality.

Reality is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1J8SOqAmnA

[livinglegend]

livinglegend and dubeta still shook as fvck that Bran is

2/5

:oldlol:

rent free :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[TheMan]

rent free :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Dos de cinco, brah :oldlol:

[Indian guy]

LOL he struggled with the physicality of Hibbert, West, PG, and Stephenson.

Except, you know, he didn't at all. Not including that rigged Game 5 in the ECF this year, LeBron averaged 28 ppg on 54% FG in 12 playoff meetings against Indiana(#1 ranked defensive team in both '13 and '14). Anybody with the remotest clue about LeBron should know physicality/hard fouls does nothing to him. Advanced defensive schemes executed very well is what bothers him. The type of defense Thibodeau's teams, '11 Mavs and the Spurs play. Now, the Knicks, especially that '93 team(GOAT-level defensive team), were certainly capable of that, but don't tell me their physical nature would deter LeBron mentally in any way.

As far as whether '14 LeBron would be able to win on that '92 team is concerned, absolutely. This past season to me was LeBron's offensive peak, and once the playoffs began, his defense returned to the sustained excellence of prior seasons too. That '92 Bulls team was amazing. I can't see peak LeBron losing with that cast. Albeit the competition in the '92 playoffs was strong, but LeBron's beaten multiple teams better than what the Bulls faced in that run and he did with an inferior cast.

The seasons LeBron would have a difficult time winning in Chicago would be '93(Knicks were very good) and '98(old, tired team).

[dubeta]

Except, you know, he didn't at all. Not including that rigged Game 5 in the ECF this year, LeBron averaged 28 ppg on 54% FG in 12 playoff meetings against Indiana(#1 ranked defensive team in both '13 and '14). Anybody with the remotest clue about LeBron should know physicality/hard fouls does nothing to him. Advanced defensive schemes executed very well is what bothers him. The type of defense Thibodeau's teams, '11 Mavs and the Spurs play. Now, the Knicks, especially that '93 team(GOAT-level defensive team), were certainly capable of that, but don't tell me their physical nature would deter LeBron mentally in any way.

As far as whether '14 LeBron would be able to win on that '92 team is concerned, absolutely. This past season to me was LeBron's offensive peak, and once the playoffs began, his defense returned to the sustained excellence of prior seasons too. That '92 Bulls team was amazing. I can't see peak LeBron losing with that cast. Albeit the competition in the '92 playoffs was strong, but LeBron's beaten multiple teams better than what the Bulls faced in that run and he did with an inferior cast.

The seasons LeBron would have a difficult time winning in Chicago would be '93(Knicks were very good) and '98(old, tired team).

Shhhh I don't think these jordan stans have the brain cells to comprehend

[Warfan]

Except, you know, he didn't at all. Not including that rigged Game 5 in the ECF this year, LeBron averaged 28 ppg on 54% FG in 12 playoff meetings against Indiana(#1 ranked defensive team in both '13 and '14). Anybody with the remotest clue about LeBron should know physicality/hard fouls does nothing to him. Advanced defensive schemes executed very well is what bothers him. The type of defense Thibodeau's teams, '11 Mavs and the Spurs play. Now, the Knicks, especially that '93 team(GOAT-level defensive team), were certainly capable of that, but don't tell me their physical nature would deter LeBron mentally in any way.

As far as whether '14 LeBron would be able to win on that '92 team is concerned, absolutely. This past season to me was LeBron's offensive peak, and once the playoffs began, his defense returned to the sustained excellence of prior seasons too. That '92 Bulls team was amazing. I can't see peak LeBron losing with that cast. Albeit the competition in the '92 playoffs was strong, but LeBron's beaten multiple teams better than what the Bulls faced in that run and he did with an inferior cast.

The seasons LeBron would have a difficult time winning in Chicago would be '93(Knicks were very good) and '98(old, tired team).

Like who? The Pacers? Young OKC team? Spurs? Cmon :oldlol:

[TheMan]

Like who? The Pacers? Young OKC team? Spurs? Cmon :oldlol:
Dat ol' and injured Celtics team :oldlol:

Let's be honest, Bran has never beaten a good team, and the good teams he's faced, he lost to them. Explains why he's 2/5 :oldlol:

[Indian guy]

Like who? The Pacers? Young OKC team? Spurs? Cmon :oldlol:

'11 Celtics and Bulls > '92 Knicks and Cavs, IMO. '12 OKC and '13 Spurs >> '92 Blazers.

[pauk]

Except, you know, he didn't at all. Not including that rigged Game 5 in the ECF this year, LeBron averaged 28 ppg on 54% FG in 12 playoff meetings against Indiana(#1 ranked defensive team in both '13 and '14). Anybody with the remotest clue about LeBron should know physicality/hard fouls does nothing to him. Advanced defensive schemes executed very well is what bothers him. The type of defense Thibodeau's teams, '11 Mavs and the Spurs play. Now, the Knicks, especially that '93 team(GOAT-level defensive team), were certainly capable of that, but don't tell me their physical nature would deter LeBron mentally in any way.

As far as whether '14 LeBron would be able to win on that '92 team is concerned, absolutely. This past season to me was LeBron's offensive peak, and once the playoffs began, his defense returned to the sustained excellence of prior seasons too. That '92 Bulls team was amazing. I can't see peak LeBron losing with that cast. Albeit the competition in the '92 playoffs was strong, but LeBron's beaten multiple teams better than what the Bulls faced in that run and he did with an inferior cast.

The seasons LeBron would have a difficult time winning in Chicago would be '93(Knicks were very good) and '98(old, tired team).

This...

...and i grew up watching that physical NBA, but objectively lets be honest here, Lebron would fit in any more physical era than anybody today.... just look at the guy, he possess a Karl Malone body with even greater speed/quickness and not to mention durability/tolerance, while basketball is not so physical today he is still the most physical player out there aswell and because of that he also recieves the most physical defense upon him than anybody today, most of the physical contact especially from perimeter defenders is not even visible on him due to his frame (hence the officiating became very benovelent upon his defenders) unless he gets frustrated about it and sells one (flops)...

Ever heard about hand-checking? Well do you guys know that you could also use your hands to combat that as an offensive player? You could more often get away with stuff like to drive and push with your off-hand better than today, you could smack the defenders hands away, you could hence get away with tricks like locking a guys arms, you could smack the defenders hands when you post him up... and of the ball you could use your hands to get open much more than you could today..... Lebron would abuse all of that.. and defensively, im sure he would love to try that hand-check thing aswell.............

Did you guys also know of the extremly harsh zone defense / illegal defense rules back then compared to today? You were not allowed to team defend like you can today in that aspect.... back then defenders were more often left on an island against such players....

Lebron would do fine.... and who knows, considering the above (including Indian Guy's post), maybe even better than he is doing today (on both ends), at least statistically, because as far as team success goes that is still up to the supporting cast he will have... and that 92' Bulls team would still be the best team he ever had (prime Pippen/Grant alone i would take over current Wade/Bosh)....

[TheMan]

'11 Celtics and Bulls > '92 Knicks and Cavs, IMO. '12 OKC and '13 Spurs >> '92 Blazers.
GTFO

11 Celtics were already in decline and missing key players, the 11 Bulls were Rose and a bunch of role players, Noah was nowhere what he is today, Boozer was hobbled by injury and Bogans was a starter at SG, 'nough said. Those Knicks had a FC of bangers led by prime Ewing and a GOAT coach in Riley, they'd murk those teams.

12 OKC were young and not ready for prime time, the 13 Spurs were good but Ginobili was terrible. 13 Spurs and 92 Blazers are a good matchup but those Blazers were in their prime while the 13 Spurs were old. Gimme the Blazers in 7.

[Indian guy]

GTFO

11 Celtics were already in decline and missing key players

Yes, but they were still very good. People generally can't stop raving about the '10 Celtics, except the '11 Celtics won a lot more games and showed the type of consistency the '10 team never could. And besides Rondo's injury mid-series against Miami(still didn't miss a game), what "key" players were they missing?


the 11 Bulls were Rose and a bunch of role players

This is a joke, right? In what world are Boozer, Deng and Noah just "role players"? They are all borderline stars. Bulls had the league's best bench, the best front court, the best defense, the MVP and a top 3 coach in Thibodeau. They dominated the entire regular season and won a league-best 62 games for a reason(23-7 against West), despite missing numerous key players due to injuries all year. That was a terrific team. Certainly a better team than the 51-win Knicks of '92.


12 OKC were young and not ready for prime time

Who gives a sh!t? No team is perfect here. I can point out plenty of flaws in MJ's competition too. Fact of the matter is, OKC were a loaded team that nobody could stop raving about after they back door swept the veteran Spurs(who were looking unstoppable with 20 straight wins). OKC entered the '12 Finals as favorites. They lost and suddenly they were too young? Hindsight is a bitch.


the 13 Spurs were good but Ginobili was terrible.

WTF is the point of even mentioning this? What, every single player from those '92 teams played well??


but those Blazers were in their prime

Ummm, that was their last relevant season together. Prime??

[DJ Leon Smith]

Not including that rigged Game 5 in the ECF this year

Have honestly never seen a LeBron vs anyone thread that doesn't involve some form of "not including that game/that series/that season" in the argument.

[Calabis]

Rings wouldve come too easy, Stern would have to limit LeBron to only play 20 mins or someshit to keep it competitive

So thats what happened in the Spurs series....damn Stern told Lebron to play 20 min a game and disappear the other 25. Stern still pulling strings in retirement.

[Calabis]

Wow injured Wade and old Allen. STACKED

:facepalm

Mfer got swept with Wade avg. 26

[NumberSix]

Would LeBron be able to play while being guarded 1on1 by John Starks and zone defense being illegal? Hmmmm. That's a tough one.

[Calabis]

Would LeBron be able to play while being guarded 1on1 by John Starks and zone defense being illegal? Hmmmm. That's a tough one.

LeBron struggled against a old ass Kidd in 11....so he probably wouldn't fair much better against a better prime defender, who could use handchecking to bump him off his route with a top 10 shot blocker camping in the paint, without having to worry about defensive 3 seconds and a no contact circle under the hoop.

[NumberSix]

LeBron struggled against a old ass Kidd in 11....so he probably wouldn't fair much better against a better prime defender, who could use handchecking to bump him off his route with a top 10 shot blocker camping in the paint, without having to worry about defensive 3 seconds and a no contact circle under the hoop.
Because it's not like LeBron James is one of the all time great players or anything. John Starks would most likely shut him down.

[sportjames23]

Dos de cinco, brah :oldlol:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[To4]

Lebron with 92 bulls will be redundant.. he will make Scottie a spot up shooter..

[dc_chilling]

Reality is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1J8SOqAmnA

:applause:

Anyone who think Lebron couldn't handle the physical play in the 80's is a fool.

MJ at 215 could, Isiah at 180 could, but somehow Lebron at 260+ couldn't.
:facepalm

Compare MJ in the 80's to Lebron. He's like a twig.

To answer the question, at least 6 rings. Maybe more.

Lebron and Pippen on the floor together would be devastating.

[OldSchoolBBall]

lol @ people who think Lebron would win 6 in those same 6 years MJ won. No way. He wins 4 I'd wager. The '92 or '93 Knicks, '93 Suns, '96 Sonics, and '96 Magic have a good chance of beating him.

[DJ Leon Smith]

:applause:

Anyone who think Lebron couldn't handle the physical play in the 80's is a fool.

MJ at 215 could, Isiah at 180 could, but somehow Lebron at 260+ couldn't.
:facepalm

By your logic, Roy Hibbert at 280+ could handle the 80s better than Karl Malone did. We're not talking weight we're talking mentality, should have been obvious to anyone with half a brain.

[DJ Leon Smith]

Would LeBron be able to play while being guarded 1on1 by John Starks and zone defense being illegal? Hmmmm. That's a tough one.

Knicks would have traded Starks for Diaw or Jason Terry.

[juju151111]

LeBron loses in the 2nd round vs the knicks.

[Roundball_Rock]

Aw man, lol. Lame!

First, the East didn't suck back then (Celtics and Pistons), MJ had not one player who was an All Star teammate from 84-90 and a few of those series that the Bulls won in the late 80s, Pippen was a bench player scoring under 10 a game, lol

I let you ignorantly troll though since you got nothing else :oldlol:

He was a bench player for 80% of one series the Bulls won--and the reason he became a starter for the final game was the Bulls had blown a 2-0 lead and Collins needed to do something to spark the team. Pippen had a good game and the Bulls finally got out the first round. Absent Pippen, they would have lost in the first round for the fourth consecutive year. :lol


but those Blazers were in their prime

Drexler was playing on a bum knee in that Finals--and was never the same after that. He went from a superstar to "just" an all-star.

1991: Bulls win
1992: Bulls win
1993: Bulls win. I could see the Knicks winning, but MJ had a weak series by his standards so it is hard to argue Lebron would be a downgrade over what MJ did in that series.
1994: Bulls win.
1995: Lose to Orlando in the ECF, not the ECSF (they would have had a higher seed and avoided Orlando until the ECF).
1996: Bulls win.
1997: Bulls win.
1998: Jazz win.
1999: ECF most likely. That Bulls team wouldn't be much worse than the Cavs team LeBron had.

LeBron would have fared better from 1985-1990 since he has demonstrated he can do more without stacked teams than MJ, partly because he is a better teammate. It is hard to see a LeBron team having three consecutive losing seasons followed by a 50 win and 47 win season. LeBron basically is worth 50 wins--in a bad year...

[sdot_thadon]

I'll say this: any of you who grew up in the 80s and early 90s that say lebron wouldn't be able to hang physically are nuts. He's one of if not the most physical perimeter star we've had in the league. Those knicks would trouble anyone, hell they gave Mj plenty. Lebron along with Blake and Dwight take harder fouls than the rest of the league. Also handchecking could make things tougher on Lebron but there's a flip side that he embraces the contact and plays how he did against the wizards back in his cleveland days. He took punishment but he gave it back too.

On topic though, I think he could lead the 92 bulls to the title. A player with his I.q. could thrive in the triangle (given the 1-2year adjustment period it seems the system requires)

[ArbitraryWater]

They didn't allow NYK to do SHIT in game 7...

Even Bruce Blitz (Hardcore MJ/Bulls fan) has gone on record and said that the referee's didn't allow New York to play physical in game 7.

[ArbitraryWater]

He was a bench player for 80% of one series the Bulls won--and the reason he became a starter for the final game was the Bulls had blown a 2-0 lead and Collins needed to do something to spark the team. Pippen had a good game and the Bulls finally got out the first round. Absent Pippen, they would have lost in the first round for the fourth consecutive year. :lol



Drexler was playing on a bum knee in that Finals--and was never the same after that. He went from a superstar to "just" an all-star.

1991: Bulls win
1992: Bulls win
1993: Bulls win. I could see the Knicks winning, but MJ had a weak series by his standards so it is hard to argue Lebron would be a downgrade over what MJ did in that series.
1994: Bulls win.
1995: Lose to Orlando in the ECF, not the ECSF (they would have had a higher seed and avoided Orlando until the ECF).
1996: Bulls win.
1997: Bulls win.
1998: Jazz win.
1999: ECF most likely. That Bulls team wouldn't be much worse than the Cavs team LeBron had.

LeBron would have fared better from 1985-1990 since he has demonstrated he can do more without stacked teams than MJ, partly because he is a better teammate. It is hard to see a LeBron team having three consecutive losing seasons followed by a 50 win and 47 win season. LeBron basically is worth 50 wins--in a bad year...

Why no title in 1999?

[juju151111]

He was a bench player for 80% of one series the Bulls won--and the reason he became a starter for the final game was the Bulls had blown a 2-0 lead and Collins needed to do something to spark the team. Pippen had a good game and the Bulls finally got out the first round. Absent Pippen, they would have lost in the first round for the fourth consecutive year. :lol



Drexler was playing on a bum knee in that Finals--and was never the same after that. He went from a superstar to "just" an all-star.

1991: Bulls win
1992: Bulls win
1993: Bulls win. I could see the Knicks winning, but MJ had a weak series by his standards so it is hard to argue Lebron would be a downgrade over what MJ did in that series.
1994: Bulls win.
1995: Lose to Orlando in the ECF, not the ECSF (they would have had a higher seed and avoided Orlando until the ECF).
1996: Bulls win.
1997: Bulls win.
1998: Jazz win.
1999: ECF most likely. That Bulls team wouldn't be much worse than the Cavs team LeBron had.

LeBron would have fared better from 1985-1990 since he has demonstrated he can do more without stacked teams than MJ, partly because he is a better teammate. It is hard to see a LeBron team having three consecutive losing seasons followed by a 50 win and 47 win season. LeBron basically is worth 50 wins--in a bad year...
You mean this spark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJeO2sVZZZg :facepalm

Wrecker was not injured. He got injured the following season. Every player in nicked up during playoffs including Mj and his ankle. Wrecker was dunking on people and was running the floor great stop your BS.

91-Lose- LJ has never ever put up 30+ with 11+ adds in his finals history ever on 55%. Shut has LJ ever put up those stats in any playoffs series including hitting the gamewinne r and guarding the best player 75% of the time. Show me one series where LJ put up similar numbers while guarding the other teams best player most of the time. Go ahead numnuts.

92. I can see this series going either way. LJ has never really impress me in the finals. Once again doubt he has similar stats like Mj. They are not getting by the knicks most likely anyways

93 Lose... The Knicks kill LJ in the ECF and if not the Suns kill them. LJ is not a final performer once again and doesn't have HCA. LJ is not putting up 40+ ppg or scoring 50.

96 I agree. That team too dominate

97 Jazz wins. Some of these games were close

Jazz win again with hca

[Roundball_Rock]

Why no title in 1999?

Pippen, Rodman, Jackson would be gone by then but Kukoc, the Bulls' fourth best player from 1996-1998, would still be a better "second option" than anything LeBron had in Cleveland.

[juju151111]

Pippen, Rodman, Jackson would be gone by then but Kukoc would still be a better "second option" than anything LeBron had in Cleveland.
LJ wins noting more then 2 titles in MJ position.

[ArbitraryWater]

Wade was MVP caliber in 2011 and they still lost thanks to Bron. Old Shuttlesworth gifted, and saved LeBron's legacy with his one true championship in 2013. The 2012 one is ".5" a ring. Lockout season, unfair advantage to youth core based teams. Thus OKC, and Miami in the Finals.

and this is the guy you call 2nd best ever....




dude, you're so confused :lol




Thought you were legit, man. You trollin' here? :biggums:

He's one confused basketball fan I tell ya..

[ArbitraryWater]

Pippen, Rodman, Jackson would be gone by then but Kukoc, the Bulls' fourth best player from 1996-1998, would still be a better "second option" than anything LeBron had in Cleveland.

Oh, if we're assuming they're all gone then yea..

[ArbitraryWater]

Like who? The Pacers? Young OKC team? Spurs? Cmon :oldlol:

Yes, the Thunder, and yes the 2013 Spurs..

[ArbitraryWater]

I'll go further, the 90s Bulls would've never happened if he were drafted in 84 by Chicago. You think LeBron would've have stuck it out waiting for Pippen and Grant to develope? :oldlol:

Bran would've bolted for the door after the 89 season, he would've joined Patrick Ewing and recruited Charles Barkley to NY to stack the odds.

LeBron stayed 7 seasons in Cleveland, but now all of the sudden after 5 years, with a promising prospect in Pippen at his side, he will "bolt" ?


MJ stans truly are the scum. Dumb as ****.


GTFO

11 Celtics were already in decline and missing key players, the 11 Bulls were Rose and a bunch of role players, Noah was nowhere what he is today, Boozer was hobbled by injury and Bogans was a starter at SG, 'nough said. Those Knicks had a FC of bangers led by prime Ewing and a GOAT coach in Riley, they'd murk those teams.

12 OKC were young and not ready for prime time, the 13 Spurs were good but Ginobili was terrible. 13 Spurs and 92 Blazers are a good matchup but those Blazers were in their prime while the 13 Spurs were old. Gimme the Blazers in 7.

You're so lost :oldlol:

Blazers had great chances in 1992, Porter lit up the first 3 rounds averaging 24 ppg / 8 apg on 53%, but then disappeared in the finals to 16/5...

Were you even aware of this?

[LeBird]

LeBron stayed 7 seasons in Cleveland, but now all of the sudden after 5 years, with a promising prospect in Pippen at his side, he will "bolt" ?


MJ stans truly are the scum. Dumb as ****.

:lol Not just Pippen, Grant too.

[sdot_thadon]

You mean this spark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJeO2sVZZZg :facepalm
91-Lose- LJ has never ever put up 30+ with 11+ adds in his finals history ever on 55%. Shut has LJ ever put up those stats in any playoffs series including hitting the gamewinne r and guarding the best player 75% of the time. Show me one series where LJ put up similar numbers while guarding the other teams best player most of the time. Go ahead numnuts.

92. I can see this series going either way. LJ has never really impress me in the finals. Once again doubt he has similar stats like Mj. They are not getting by the knicks most likely anyways

If that's your opinion good for you, I got hung up on one thing though. Why is it always assumed that Lebron has to do things the same way Mj did to succeed? Why must his stats equal what Mj did? That's pretty ridiculous, he's's a different player that brings an entirely different set of circumstances to a game than Mj.

Why would Lebron have to put up the same numbers Mj did against the Lakers when he be a complete nightmare for them offensively? Also have to consider that in the triangle he could have been asked to handle the scoring in a similar way Mj did and maybe not focus on play making. Or he may have been the best playmaker to ever touch the triangle, who knows. I just feel it's incredibly dumb to always have a match Mj or nothing mentality........

[edrick]

LeBron stayed 7 seasons in Cleveland, but now all of the sudden after 5 years, with a promising prospect in Pippen at his side, he will "bolt" ?

Don't blame them, math is hard.

Can Lebron, who is a 6'8 250-280 athletic freak, handle physical play? Not even worth discussing.

[juju151111]

If that's your opinion good for you, I got hung up on one thing though. Why is it always assumed that Lebron has to do things the same way Mj did to succeed? Why must his stats equal what Mj did? That's pretty ridiculous, he's's a different player that brings an entirely different set of circumstances to a game than Mj.

Why would Lebron have to put up the same numbers Mj did against the Lakers when he be a complete nightmare for them offensively? Also have to consider that in the triangle he could have been asked to handle the scoring in a similar way Mj did and maybe not focus on play making. Or he may have been the best playmaker to ever touch the triangle, who knows. I just feel it's incredibly dumb to always have a match Mj or nothing mentality........
He has to have similar impact at least. He would have to guarding Magic 75% of a series and then put up similar impact ful numbers. LJ in his while career has never done anything at the level off MY 91 finals. The closest was the 38,8,8 vs the Magic team. He never even rometly plays that way in any of his four finals.

[TheMan]

Would LeBron be able to play while being guarded 1on1 by John Starks and zone defense being illegal? Hmmmm. That's a tough one.
Why would a 6'4" SG be on a 6'9" SF?

Fail, try harder :facepalm

[TheMan]

LeBron stayed 7 seasons in Cleveland, but now all of the sudden after 5 years, with a promising prospect in Pippen at his side, he will "bolt" ?


MJ stans truly are the scum. Dumb as ****.



You're so lost :oldlol:

Blazers had great chances in 1992, Porter lit up the first 3 rounds averaging 24 ppg / 8 apg on 53%, but then disappeared in the finals to 16/5...

Were you even aware of this?
That's a 2011 LeBron worthy drop off, but then again, as good as Terry Porter was, he never was considered the best player in the league. And just because he struggled against Chicago's D doesn't mean he'd struggle vs a hypothetical 13 Spurs v 92 Blazers series. Ginobili OTOH, struggled most of the 13 post season.

To answer your question, yes I was aware of that, I watched those Finals series, did you or are you just going thru YouTube videos and looking at stats?

[TheMan]

Don't blame them, math is hard.

Can Lebron, who is a 6'8 250-280 athletic freak, handle physical play? Not even worth discussing.
How's this for hard math...2/5 :oldlol:

[dubeta]

lebron would feast on those unathletic bums. the goat mj stopper payton would be lebrons personal bitch

[sdot_thadon]

He has to have similar impact at least. He would have to guarding Magic 75% of a series and then put up similar impact ful numbers. LJ in his while career has never done anything at the level off MY 91 finals. The closest was the 38,8,8 vs the Magic team. He never even rometly plays that way in any of his four finals.
Well your almost there. He has a similar impact that's the reason his peak is mentioned with the best ever. His reputation from his prime on is usually guarding the best non-big on the other team. The 38 8 8 vs. Orlando is one of the best individual series ever. Lastly he's never had the luxury of playing a team like the 91 lakers in the finals. I'm not even sure I'd say okc but they are the closest thing he's seen and they had 2 prime top 10 guys......

[TheMan]

lebron would feast on those unathletic bums. the goat mj stopper payton would be lebrons personal bitch
Again, why would a PG be on a SF? Put Pippen on LeBron and watch Bran quit basketball, I mean Pippen >>>>> Diaw or JKidd.

[StephHamann]

lebron would feast on those unathletic bums. the goat mj stopper payton would be lebrons personal bitch


http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

[dubeta]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

Im talking about this lebron
http://www.hiphopstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Lebron-James-Stare.jpg

heck even MJ would shit his pants if he had to face this lebron

[OldSchoolBBall]

Im talking about this lebron
http://www.hiphopstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Lebron-James-Stare.jpg

heck even MJ would shit his pants if he had to face this lebron

lol Keep dreaming kid. The difference is that that was an aberration for Lebron. That was Jordan basically EVERY game, especially in the postseason. Jordan could also put himself into that mode AT WILL, not just when his entire career legacy is on the line.

[Paul George 24]

Im talking about this lebron
http://www.hiphopstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Lebron-James-Stare.jpg

heck even MJ would shit his pants if he had to face this lebron

keep making excuse :lol
just admits leflop is mentally soft

[DJ Leon Smith]

http://cdn.solecollector.com/media/u/images/reebok-zig-slash-jason-terry-finals-pe-auction-05.JPG

[Calabis]

Because it's not like LeBron James is one of the all time great players or anything. John Starks would most likely shut him down.

Or because your dumbass assumptions about Starks, like he was some piece of shit defender, when he was far better than the 2011 version of Kidd, who slowed his ass down(since according to you individual matchups, means 1 on 1). Also he struggled getting layups over old ass Duncan and Splitter......prime Ewing better then both those guys now....plus they are going to throw Wilkins and Mason ass at him too. No superstar gets stopped, they can be slowed down and in Lebrons case disappear for quarters at a time.

[Calabis]

:lol Not just Pippen, Grant too.

Dude Cedric Maxwell called.....he said he will send you a pic of his finals MVP trophy.

[knicksman]

all you need to know is to see whether its a 50+ win team or not? If it is, its an automatic loss unless he has 2 superstars

[knicksman]

dude, stop acting like you dont know.
1/9 is way worse than 2/5.
Even 2/9 is worse than 2/5.
Get your facts straight before trolling.
You are a troll ,confirmed.


bran stans really are cheap betas.