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Meticode
07-02-2014, 10:59 PM
https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/484531648940085250


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 3m
Lowry's deal will including an ETO after the third year of the contract, source tells Yahoo Sports.

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:00 PM
Glad he stayed in Toronto personally. I want to see them competitive.

Yankstar
07-02-2014, 11:01 PM
Overpaid with the going rates for PG in this league.

J Shuttlesworth
07-02-2014, 11:01 PM
Heat haters rejoice

Grats to the Raptors though. Their fans on this board are probably my favorite ISH fan base

Jameerthefear
07-02-2014, 11:02 PM
good signing. 12/y for lowry is good.

RoundMoundOfReb
07-02-2014, 11:02 PM
:banana: :applause: :rockon:

D-Rose
07-02-2014, 11:02 PM
Great for Toronto. Sort of surprised they got away with not adding a 5th year.

Lowry/Gortat are both off the board...can't wait for more chips to fall.

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:03 PM
Overpaid with the going rates for PG in this league.
Irving is getting the max at $18 million a season. Lowry put up pretty much duplicate numbers and is getting $12 million per year. Good deal in-my-opinion.

Rameek
07-02-2014, 11:03 PM
Great day for Raps, they finally get to keep a quality player. Let's hope he doesnt regress to his prone days now that he has money.

TylerOO
07-02-2014, 11:03 PM
i guess he doesnt enjoy winning!

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:04 PM
i guess he doesnt enjoy winning!
Raptors had more wins than losses last season. :confusedshrug:

Qwyjibo
07-02-2014, 11:05 PM
Well, it's not a bad deal. After sort of "going for it" last year, the Raptors had no choice but to show him the money.

I have many questions about the Raptors long-term plans (if there is one yet). You just can't let your best player leave but you also are probably not doing anything significant if Lowry is your best player and you have no money or pull to bring in anyone else. Maybe a trade? We'll see.

RoundMoundOfReb
07-02-2014, 11:05 PM
Overpaid with the going rates for PG in this league.
Not really.

bagelred
07-02-2014, 11:06 PM
Is he good? Can the Heat get him?

Another Morey find that eventually got big bucks....somewhere else though....

Yankstar
07-02-2014, 11:06 PM
Irving is getting the max at $18 million a season. Lowry put up pretty much duplicate numbers and is getting $12 million per year. Good deal in-my-opinion.

Irving is overpaid :facepalm

JimmyMcAdocious
07-02-2014, 11:06 PM
Well relative to what players are getting this offseason, it's about right.

Makes him one of the highest paid PGs tho.

played0ut
07-02-2014, 11:07 PM
RAWR!!~

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Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:08 PM
Irving is overpaid :facepalm
So Lowry who put up identical numbers for $6 million less per season is still overpaid? What exactly is your argument here?

Derka
07-02-2014, 11:10 PM
Good for Raps fans :applause: Hope they can make some more noise this season.

moe94
07-02-2014, 11:11 PM
Overpaid with the going rates for PG in this league.

How is that overpaid? :biggums:

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:14 PM
Nice...


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 1m
Kyle Lowry tells Yahoo: "Toronto is just the right place for me."

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:16 PM
How is that overpaid? :biggums:
I don't know, it's his logic. If you look back at my replies you might get a snicker.

Yankstar
07-02-2014, 11:18 PM
I don't know, it's his logic. If you look back at my replies you might get a snicker.

With PGs like Dragic on 4 year 30 million dollar contracts I think you can call him overpaid.

hawksdogsbraves
07-02-2014, 11:18 PM
Meh, give me Teague at $8mil/yr.

brwnman
07-02-2014, 11:19 PM
Well, it's not a bad deal. After sort of "going for it" last year, the Raptors had no choice but to show him the money.

I have many questions about the Raptors long-term plans (if there is one yet). You just can't let your best player leave but you also are probably not doing anything significant if Lowry is your best player and you have no money or pull to bring in anyone else. Maybe a trade? We'll see.

I don't think Raptors do much this off-season. Probably look to re-sign 2Pat and Vasquez. Get a backup wing who can create and defend. Next year, Raps should have over 20M in cap-space - that's when they can look to go for it. This team at this point needs a starting caliber PF - I don't really see one on the market.

Jameerthefear
07-02-2014, 11:19 PM
With PGs like Dragic on 4 year 30 million dollar contracts I think you can call him overpaid.
more like dragic is severely underpaid

RoundMoundOfReb
07-02-2014, 11:20 PM
I can't think of a PG better than Lowry that isn't getting paid more than him. How on earth can somebody call this an overpay.

There's Dragic - but he's underpaid severely. He got paid off of a year much worse than this past one for Lowry.

Pistol Pete
07-02-2014, 11:20 PM
With PGs like Dragic on 4 year 30 million dollar contracts I think you can call him overpaid.

Dragic signed it coming off a season in which he posted 12/5/3 a game, what would he get this offseason? Max.

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:22 PM
With PGs like Dragic on 4 year 30 million dollar contracts I think you can call him overpaid.
You do realize that when Dragic signed with the Suns he just came off a 12/5 season with Houston? They paid him what he was worth at the time. If he was a free agent right now you think he'd get 4 years at $30? No, just no.

Suns landed a homerun with that. Paying him $7.5 mill a year for 20/6 is a steal and they did it right.

Yankstar
07-02-2014, 11:23 PM
RAWR!!~

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I loled :applause:

Qwyjibo
07-02-2014, 11:24 PM
I don't think Raptors do much this off-season. Probably look to re-sign 2Pat and Vasquez. Get a backup wing who can create and defend. Next year, Raps should have over 20M in cap-space - that's when they can look to go for it. This team at this point needs a starting caliber PF - I don't really see one on the market.
PF and SF look like holes right now. Patterson will probably walk leaving Amir and Hansbrough with the PF minutes which is clearly not an ideal situation. I really wish the Raptors had money to throw an offer sheet at Parsons. He'd be a perfect fit in the starting lineup.

Yankstar
07-02-2014, 11:24 PM
Another example, Tony Parker on 12.5/per. Is Lowry worth the same as Parker? I wouldn't offer him more then 10/per

RoundMoundOfReb
07-02-2014, 11:26 PM
Another example, Tony Parker on 12.5/per. Is Lowry worth the same as Parker? I wouldn't offer him more then 10/per

1. Tony Parker took a discount to be with the Spurs.

2. Tony Parker is severely overrated.

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:26 PM
Another example, Tony Parker on 12.5/per. Is Lowry worth the same as Parker? I wouldn't offer him more then 10/per
Again, your logic is skewed. He could get $14-$15 million when he agreed to that $12.5 contract.

Parker, Manu and Duncan all agreed to take less to keep that core together.

Qwyjibo
07-02-2014, 11:27 PM
Another example, Tony Parker on 12.5/per. Is Lowry worth the same as Parker? I wouldn't offer him more then 10/per
You don't really understand how a market works then. You can't just pick and choose comparing this to contracts signed in previous years with players in different situations as well.

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:28 PM
Yankstar,

Thanks for posting. I appreciate your honest opinions.

moe94
07-02-2014, 11:32 PM
With PGs like Dragic on 4 year 30 million dollar contracts I think you can call him overpaid.

You don't get how it works. :coleman:

moe94
07-02-2014, 11:33 PM
Yankstar,

Thanks for posting. I appreciate your honest opinions.
:roll:

lpublic_enemyl
07-02-2014, 11:33 PM
With PGs like Dragic on 4 year 30 million dollar contracts I think you can call him overpaid.
:facepalm

BlazerRed
07-02-2014, 11:34 PM
Glad to see he stayed with the Raptors. The fans loved him and he seemed to like it there.

RoundMoundOfReb
07-02-2014, 11:35 PM
PF and SF look like holes right now. Patterson will probably walk leaving Amir and Hansbrough with the PF minutes which is clearly not an ideal situation. I really wish the Raptors had money to throw an offer sheet at Parsons. He'd be a perfect fit in the starting lineup.
Patterson is restricted, isn't he? I hope we keep him

gasolina
07-02-2014, 11:40 PM
Raptors salary situation not looking too bad. I think Patpat should stay especially how the league values stretch 4's now.

Main thing is for the Raps to continue riding the current core but keeping roster flexibility. Raps need to win to make them attractive to FAs.

Plus you'll never know if Wiggins requests a trade.

Done_And_Done
07-02-2014, 11:44 PM
Welcome back Kyle. Let's hope we can build on what we started last year.

It's hard to argue that he isn't worth that payout after the way he playing an all star calibre season as well as being the uncontestable leader of this team.

stalkerforlife
07-02-2014, 11:44 PM
Miami one step closer to imploding.

Johnny Jones
07-02-2014, 11:46 PM
Lowry/DD is one hell of a backcourt.

BurningHammer
07-02-2014, 11:48 PM
Will there be any space left for Vasquez and/or Pat Patterson?

Legends66NBA7
07-02-2014, 11:49 PM
Great deal. Not overpaid and certainly not underpaid. Lowry was a Top 25 player last year, perhaps even higher. He definitely deserves this. Now, with getting paid, he has to return to that type of level, if not more.

Things get dicey now as we have to sign both Patterson and Vasquez. Once they are resigned, I'm confident this squad can win the division title again next year and have a new franchise record in regular season wins. Hoping we can finally break a huge playoff winless series drought too. The team is going to be younger and we only have 2 players in the rotation that are over 30 (Hayes and Novak), but they hardly will play unless called upon.

Biggest thing for next year is to avoid injuries; Raptors ranked last in the league to man games lost to injury.

Meticode
07-02-2014, 11:50 PM
Miami one step closer to imploding.
And people are talking about them getting Boozer. Like Boozer is an upgrade what they had last year? So many Miami fans or stans shit on Boozer along with most other fans, then all the sudden there's a possibility he goes to Miami and some stans are like, "OMG Yes, that's awesome!" :oldlol:

Legends66NBA7
07-02-2014, 11:55 PM
Will there be any space left for Vasquez and/or Pat Patterson?

Worst case scenario, we probably lose 1. Can't see them losing both. If we want to keep both, I'm assuming MLSE can go over the cap for both of them. We'll see if they come back for qualifying offers. Both like the city and our core will be set for the next 3-4 years.

DeMar
Kyle
Terrence
Jonas
Amir
Patrick
Greivis

I'm sure Amir would come back too, perhaps even on a discount. If Bruno develops into what Masai visioned him to be (my best case scenario is a Nicolas Batum), along with Bebe, then we got a fine 9 man rotation. Should be interesting what else DeAndre Daniels can provide too. Looks like a taller Terrence Ross.

Best thing about Kyle's ETO, if he decides to opt out (not likely), both him and DeMar become FA's and if the team has become a really good team by that point, they could definitely adjust their contracts to fit the team.

Legends66NBA7
07-02-2014, 11:58 PM
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:pimp:

NBAplayoffs2001
07-02-2014, 11:59 PM
Ecstatic he didn't take any of CHeat's offers.

Johnny Jones
07-03-2014, 12:00 AM
I agree with you legends. I really like this Raptors squad and I think 50+ wins next season is doable. I don't think they'll contend, but I think they can down the road if they can get some better role players. Lowry has peaked, but DeRozan is going to keep on improving. I think DeMar can average something like 25/5/4 on 46% at his peak.

Not to mention the Raptors have one of the best young centers in the game in Jonas., who has proven he can perform on the big stage.

They just need a 3 and D SF. Maybe T-Ross can develop into that. But like I stated before, I really like the core of this Raptors squad.

Meticode
07-03-2014, 12:05 AM
Ecstatic he didn't take any of CHeat's offers.
I don't think he would've anyway, but I think part of it was Lowry was apparently wanting to get this over with and get signed, but in the Heat's situation LeBron, Wade and Bosh are taking their sweet time and nothing is guaranteed there yet.

Meticode
07-03-2014, 12:06 AM
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I wish they would have retro jersey day 1/3 of the season for all teams.

BurningHammer
07-03-2014, 12:06 AM
Worst case scenario, we probably lose 1. Can't see them losing both. If we want to keep both, I'm assuming MLSE can go over the cap for both of them. We'll see if they come back for qualifying offers. Both like the city and our core will be set for the next 3-4 years.

DeMar
Kyle
Terrence
Jonas
Amir
Patrick
Greivis

I'm sure Amir would come back too, perhaps even on a discount. If Bruno develops into what Masai visioned him to be (my best case scenario is a Nicolas Batum), along with Bebe, then we got a fine 9 man rotation. Should be interesting what else DeAndre Daniels can provide too. Looks like a taller Terrence Ross.

Best thing about Kyle's ETO, if he decides to opt out (not likely), both him and DeMar become FA's and if the team has become a really good team by that point, they could definitely adjust their contracts to fit the team.
Masai has to try his hardest to keep the core, seemingly Lowry, Derozan and Valanciunas around as long as possible. The rest is expendable but Masai has to be very careful on moving them around for the best values.

Basically, trying to be the Spurs of the East. It is obviously tough to duplicate but they can find their own solutions that works somewhat the same.

hawksdogsbraves
07-03-2014, 12:08 AM
They have a nice core, but if its ever going to actually be competitive I think it's all on Valanciunas and his development.

Lowry is a good PG, and Derozan, (who is already very good) will get a bit better but he's a pretty one dimensional player.

Valanciunas took a big step forward between his rookie and sophomore years, he needs to take a couple more to fill out the 'Big 3' for Toronto and they could make an ECF appearance or two down the road I think.

moe94
07-03-2014, 12:18 AM
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GOAT jerseys :(

MUGEN
07-03-2014, 12:25 AM
Congrats Raptor fans :cheers: This is a big win for you guys in this off season

Legends66NBA7
07-03-2014, 12:26 AM
They just need a 3 and D SF. Maybe T-Ross can develop into that. But like I stated before, I really like the core of this Raptors squad.

Well, we have 4 SF's on the team and Ross is going to be the guy starting. Bruno is considered a project, but will be on the roster next season. Daniels could be the first guy off the bench. Fields and Novak are just filler at this point.

If either Bruno and DeAndre provide quality minutes, they could be starting over Ross due to size. Ross back ups DeMar and I think it probably provide a lot of versatility. For now, don't fix something that isn't broken and let Ross start. Raptors went 29-21 last season with Kyle/DeMar/Ross/Amir/Jonas lineup, most wins for any Raptors starting lineup.


GOAT jerseys :(

They'll be back next season for select games.

:cheers:

stalkerforlife
07-03-2014, 12:37 AM
GOAT jerseys :(

Are there actually any Raptors in Toronto, though? Velociraptors? Utahraptors?

Silly to suggest Toronto has those. :confusedshrug:

stalkerforlife
07-03-2014, 12:39 AM
Raptors overpaid imo. Next Mike James ladies and gentleman.

If he signed with Heat...

"Best PG in the league. Rivals Magic for GOAT PG."

:roll:

moe94
07-03-2014, 12:46 AM
Are there actually any Raptors in Toronto, though? Velociraptors? Utahraptor?

Silly to suggest Toronto has those. :confusedshrug:

Nope. Basically, the name was voted on after the release of Jurassic Park and everyone was in dinomania. Shit, better than the Toronto Huskies.

stalkerforlife
07-03-2014, 12:47 AM
Nope. Basically, the name was voted on after the release of Jurassic Park and everyone was in dinomania. Shit, better than the Toronto Huskies.

Thanks for the back story. I like the name.

My daughter was a dinosaur for her first halloween.

houston
07-03-2014, 12:47 AM
cool i feel that

BurningHammer
07-03-2014, 12:51 AM
Nope. Basically, the name was voted on after the release of Jurassic Park and everyone was in dinomania. Shit, better than the Toronto Huskies.
At least we can track back when the franchise was founded. :D

DMAVS41
07-03-2014, 12:53 AM
Damn...great value there for Toronto.

Ugh...did my Mavs really not come in and offer 4 for 56 million? In this league he's definitely worth that as the cap and tax line are going to go way up over the next 4 years.

2swift4u
07-03-2014, 01:11 AM
So the Heat miss out again... I'm pretty sure they won't get any decent player at all this off-season and end up with some old ass players. But good for Lowry and the Raptors. I liked their team last season.

Big Cheese
07-03-2014, 01:40 AM
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reminds me of

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RoundMoundOfReb
07-03-2014, 01:44 AM
I would love for us to sign Al Farouq Aminu to a cheap deal. He's a good rebounder/defender and has the length/strength to not get abused by larger wings like JJ

Johnny Jones
07-03-2014, 02:15 AM
I would love for us to sign Al Farouq Aminu to a cheap deal. He's a good rebounder/defender and has the length/strength to not get abused by larger wings like JJ
Aminu is an elite rebounder. He's average everywhere else.

He can be a good defender when he tries... but he doesn't try 75% of the time. The only time I've seen him play hard on both ends of the floor are games vs the Mavs.

RoundMoundOfReb
07-03-2014, 02:16 AM
Aminu is an elite rebounder. He's average everywhere else.

He can be a good defender when he tries... but he doesn't try 75% of the time. The only time I've seen him play hard on both ends of the floor are games vs the Mavs.
Thanks for the info :cheers:

Johnny Jones
07-03-2014, 02:17 AM
Thanks for the info :cheers:
I mean I really hope he can turn it around. But to me, he's just one of those guys who have a passive mindset. I don't think he realizes how good he can be if he plays aggresive.

roffie
07-03-2014, 02:22 AM
kyle lowry is an alpha

FPJ
07-03-2014, 02:49 AM
Best deal this offseason so far.

Dave3
07-03-2014, 03:09 AM
I would love for us to sign Al Farouq Aminu to a cheap deal. He's a good rebounder/defender and has the length/strength to not get abused by larger wings like JJ
Duuuude, we gotta save up cash for when we can sign Wiggins in a couple years!!! :banana:

But naw, this is a very good price I think for Lowry. Like someone already said, I like keeping this core together and then trying to make a splash next year with our cap space. If we get homecourt advantage this year (which it looks like we should with our young guys only getting better) it would be the first time in franchise history we get homecourt advantage 2 years in a row. Then after that our 2 Brazilians should be coming in and starting to make a difference (hopefully at least one of them pans out) so it's looking like a good future.

oamjad13
07-03-2014, 04:15 AM
:banana: :applause: Great news! The man was a soldier for us last season. Considering what Irving got, this is a really good deal for us. I wouldn't have liked us paying more than $13 million for him. All-Star this upcoming season!

morbius
07-03-2014, 04:29 AM
They are under the cap, so they can also bid on Boozer.
Providing that Lowry doesn't drop off now that he got payed, Raptors will be good next year.

Kujo
07-03-2014, 05:45 AM
Fair deal. Love the ETO, and the fact the Raps didn't have to include a 5th year. :applause:

Props to Masai for getting this done. Big win for the Raps. We can now build upon what we accomplished last year. :cheers:

Honestly, I was never really too worried that Lowry would leave. Toronto was just the right fit for him.

I think there is no doubt we'll resign Vasquez, and Patterson now. We still need to add another piece or two (SF, PF/backup C).

ZHAKIDD532
07-03-2014, 06:13 AM
He's a good player, but he would've fit in well in Miami. He complains on every single call, just like LeBron and Wade.

red1
07-03-2014, 06:52 AM
12 mill a year?


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red1
07-03-2014, 06:53 AM
Duuuude, we gotta save up cash for when we can sign Wiggins in a couple years!!! :banana:

But naw, this is a very good price I think for Lowry. Like someone already said, I like keeping this core together and then trying to make a splash next year with our cap space. If we get homecourt advantage this year (which it looks like we should with our young guys only getting better) it would be the first time in franchise history we get homecourt advantage 2 years in a row. Then after that our 2 Brazilians should be coming in and starting to make a difference (hopefully at least one of them pans out) so it's looking like a good future.

Fair deal. Love the ETO, and the fact the Raps didn't have to include a 5th year. :applause:

Props to Masai for getting this done. Big win for the Raps. We can now build upon what we accomplished last year. :cheers:

Honestly, I was never really too worried that Lowry would leave. Toronto was just the right fit for him.

I think there is no doubt we'll resign Vasquez, and Patterson now. We still need to add another piece or two (SF, PF/backup C).

agreed, 12 is a VERY reasonable price for all-star pg production

Legends66NBA7
07-03-2014, 09:11 AM
He's a good player, but he would've fit in well in Miami. He complains on every single call, just like LeBron and Wade.

Every single player and coach in the league don't complain about calls, but they will always pressure referees to get them calls in order to win. Anyone else would and should do the same.