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beastee
07-03-2014, 03:27 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2076359-thabo-sefolosha-to-hawks-latest-contract-details-analysis-and-reaction

He signs with Hawks at 3 years/12 million. They can land the big fish after all...

Johnny Jones
07-03-2014, 03:29 PM
Yikes

Fudge
07-03-2014, 03:30 PM
Holy shit, he can still reel in 4 mill per? :roll:

Atlanta is a fukkin joke.

Natureland
07-03-2014, 03:30 PM
:bowdown:

navy
07-03-2014, 03:31 PM
Thabo is done.

russwest0
07-03-2014, 03:31 PM
He was complete garbage last year. I don't think he's worth any thing more than the vet min let alone a 3 year deal at 4m a year.

Le Shaqtus
07-03-2014, 03:34 PM
Wow Atlanta is dumb :lol

fatboy11
07-03-2014, 03:35 PM
Not a move I was expecting from ATL, but I suppose they could still sign someone like Loul Deng. I'm sure they're not done, but I think Korver and Carroll are both better.

TylerOO
07-03-2014, 03:35 PM
waste. trash

Smook A.
07-03-2014, 03:36 PM
4 million a year... 4 million... for Thabo Sefolosha??

F*ck outta here....

hawksdogsbraves
07-03-2014, 03:47 PM
Ferry what the **** are you doing :facepalm

This is a guy who was so bad the Thunder gave all his playoff minutes to DEREK FKING FISHER

Awful, horrible move :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

hawksdogsbraves
07-03-2014, 03:49 PM
Maybe Ferry is doing this to convince all the rest of the GM's in the league that he's a moron, and then he can fool them into a bad trade.

All part of the 'plan' :pimp:

-Lebron23-
07-03-2014, 03:50 PM
If I am Lebron, Melo, Bosh or even Wade I'm going after that max NOW

Levity
07-03-2014, 03:50 PM
GM's gone crazy this off season.

Im sure bazemore would have taken that same deal.

Johnny Jones
07-03-2014, 03:50 PM
These contracts that GMs are giving SGs are making Gordon's look less horrible. Pls somebody take him.

IncarceratedBob
07-03-2014, 03:50 PM
Elite D and 3pt shooting isn't cheap

atljonesbro
07-03-2014, 03:50 PM
Over payed but he should have a much better year in Atlanta than last year.

beastee
07-03-2014, 03:51 PM
Funny thing is that Heat were after Thabo too....they keep striking out.

hawksdogsbraves
07-03-2014, 03:51 PM
Elite D and 3pt shooting isn't cheap

You're right, too bad Thabo doesn't provide either of those things anymore...

HomieWeMajor
07-03-2014, 04:00 PM
Ni99as getting paid this summer
Good time to be in the NBA

QuebecBaller
07-03-2014, 04:03 PM
If I am Lebron, Melo, Bosh or even Wade I'm going to Atlanta for MLE NOW

Fixed :D

wally_world
07-03-2014, 04:06 PM
Wow.

Thankful for his services to OKC tho, he's a classy vet and this will probably be his last big contract.

-Lebron23-
07-03-2014, 04:08 PM
Fixed :D
:lol Championship

russwest0
07-03-2014, 04:12 PM
Ferry what the **** are you doing :facepalm

This is a guy who was so bad the Thunder gave all his playoff minutes to DEREK FKING FISHER

Awful, horrible move :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

He is a classy player who still had his moments last year where he looked like an elite defender of his past. In the Clippers series I think in one sequence he ripped the ball from CP3 and then went down and scored and then stole it instantly on the inbound pass leading to a Westbrook 3 which pretty much ended the Clippers hopes that game.

And before last year he had two straight seasons of 40%+ from the 3pt line so I'd just hope he regains that.

Regardless of everything he's a great lockerroom guy and a hard worker who will set the example for others

Artillery
07-03-2014, 04:12 PM
:oldlol: Free agency is like Christmas for NBA players. Everybody getting paid ridiculous deals.

russwest0
07-03-2014, 04:16 PM
:oldlol: Free agency is like Christmas for NBA players. Everybody getting paid ridiculous deals.

People also need to remember that the salary cap is growing a significant amount each year so that is affecting the deals some of these players are getting.

crawdaddy4ou
07-03-2014, 04:23 PM
Making more a year than OKC had to pay him. Wow.

Richesly
07-03-2014, 04:26 PM
I personally think he'd fit better in the Hawk's system. Danny Green wasn't good in the cavs, went to spurs and played much better. Granted, he's a younger player still improving, but maybe Sefolosha just didn't wanna play for the Thunder anymore and it effected the way he played.

You don't just become a bad shooter out of nowhere and you don't lose your footwork in a couple years.

I think it's a OKAY signing, not bad or good.

Example: The year before DeMarre Carroll came to atlanta, he shot 28% from 3. This year he shot 36%. I think the system will work for Sefo.

QuebecBaller
07-03-2014, 04:29 PM
:oldlol: Free agency is like Christmas for NBA players. Everybody getting paid ridiculous deals.

http://shakyankles.com/imported_assets/344229/biedrins.jpg

Richesly
07-03-2014, 04:31 PM
And remember, we still have more money this off season then we did during this season, by about $2mill. We are in good shape.

Richesly
07-03-2014, 04:33 PM
Hawks defense is becoming amazing. DMC and Thabo are both 3-n-D players. It's looking good. Thabo is def Lou's replacement, or Ferry is making a plan to move DMC.

atljonesbro
07-03-2014, 04:36 PM
Hawks defense is becoming amazing. DMC and Thabo are both 3-n-D players. It's looking good. Thabo is def Lou's replacement, or Ferry is making a plan to move DMC.
Probably package him and Salmons. Wonder if he's using them as pieces to make a bigger move.

ProfessorMurder
07-03-2014, 04:36 PM
:oldlol:

kurple
07-03-2014, 04:42 PM
fudge and all the crappy OKC fans :facepalm

thabo isnt useless. he had a bad season but is still a good veteran to have

paying 4 mill for an experienced defender and leader is better than paying whatever Pistons is paying for an undersized shooter (Meeks)

Thunderfan86
07-03-2014, 04:49 PM
This was a good move for Thabo and his family.

inclinerator
07-03-2014, 05:16 PM
all ya;ll gonna regret talking sht when tabo drops 20 and 8 next year

Qwyjibo
07-03-2014, 05:46 PM
all ya;ll gonna regret talking sht when tabo drops 20 and 8 next year
Is he suddenly going to start getting 22+ shots and 40 minutes per game?

hawksdogsbraves
07-03-2014, 06:06 PM
I may have been a bit harsh, if he can get that 3 point percentage back up to 40% then it will be fine.

If he continues his awful play from the playoffs though, it was a really bad move. I will reserve further judgement on it until I see how Ferry's diabolical master plan plays out.

bluechox2
07-03-2014, 06:10 PM
3 mil for 12 years...bargain

DMAVS41
07-03-2014, 06:13 PM
fudge and all the crappy OKC fans :facepalm

thabo isnt useless. he had a bad season but is still a good veteran to have

paying 4 mill for an experienced defender and leader is better than paying whatever Pistons is paying for an undersized shooter (Meeks)

It's not a bad deal by any means, but it actually makes that meeks signing not nearly as bad for example.

If Thabo is worth 4 a year...than Meeks should be getting roughly 6.5 a year. Meeks is a much better player than Thabo and will likely only get better.

That is what makes valuation of players so hard.

Qwyjibo
07-03-2014, 06:30 PM
I may have been a bit harsh, if he can get that 3 point percentage back up to 40% then it will be fine.
That's what the Hawks need him to regain. It's not a big contract $$ per year but still. I'm skeptical and that's why I was really hope the Raptors wouldn't chase him.

IMO, one dimensional players like him whose only good skill being perimeter defense just aren't worth much in today's NBA. With perimeter defense being neutered by very strict rules, it's tough to not have something else that you can do at an above-average level.

hawkfan
07-03-2014, 06:34 PM
1. The Hawks must have talked to Deng and maybe his asking price is too much.

2. Sefosha, when healthy, is a clear upgrade over DeMarre Carroll and (certainly Cartier Martin). The Hawks can keep both Sefolosha and Carroll and have some depth at the 3, although neither is an All-Star.

3. Sefolosha had a calf injury, so let's hope he comes back healthy.

4. The Hawks had 16.5 million in cap space prior to this signing, plus can get another 3 million by releasing the cap holds on some restricted free agents. So this doesn't kill our cap space. And we can move Carroll and that creates another 2.5 million.

5. This helps deal with the smurf issue the Hawks had on the wings last year - Sefolosha is 6'7 and Patterson is 6'5", so that adds some much needed height and length.

6. Hopefully we can still land another small forward - Ersan Ilyasova would be a good addition for the Hawks and the Bucks need to clear out minutes for Parker. And his contract isn't a cap killer.

hawkfan
07-03-2014, 06:50 PM
Also,

1. The Hawks were paying Louis Williams 5.4 million this year. With the Salmons deal, the Hawks will pay him 1 million. And then Sefolosha is getting 4 million this year, so Sefolosha is a vast defensive improvement over Williams and hopefully at least decent on offense.

2. Shelvin Mack may leave (surprised no team has given him a contract yet - he's an improving point guard and a solid defender). If so, then Sefolosha is needed.

So considering our roster moves, this is a very solid contract.

ILLsmak
07-03-2014, 07:11 PM
3 mil for 12 years...bargain

yea was gonna say.

-Smak

JimmyMcAdocious
07-03-2014, 07:13 PM
Thabo is a no longer an elite defender.

This isn't really against him, but how many game winners were dropped on him last season? Happened enough for it to be noticed.

hawkfan
07-03-2014, 07:26 PM
Thabo is a no longer an elite defender.

This isn't really against him, but how many game winners were dropped on him last season? Happened enough for it to be noticed.

He's still better on defense than Louis Williams. At a minimum he has 8 inches of height over Williams.

The Hawks might end up keeping John Salmons as well, depending on what other wings are out there and would be willing to sign with the Hawks.

That gives us Salmons and Sefolosha at 6'7" and James Patterson at 6'5", which gives the Hawks some size at the wings behind Carroll and Korver.

BlackVVaves
07-03-2014, 07:44 PM
3 million for 12 years? Ferry deserves EOTY, that's Walmart discount

beastee
07-03-2014, 07:51 PM
3 million for 12 years? Ferry deserves EOTY, that's Walmart discount

Ha. I saw that after I posted...wondered if anyone would notice. You get the cookie. :cheers:

MrC1991
07-03-2014, 07:52 PM
lmfao come on Atlanta...