LeBron Will Always Be Remembered as a Ring Chaser

[AirTupac]

And not a very good one either. 2/5 almost on the verge of 1/5 in a historically weak eastern conference. One being a lock out season. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[atljonesbro]

What about FMVP %?

2/5 >>> 2/7

[russwest0]

lol it's not even just the lock out season. the 2012 ECF that year was rigged like none other (as was the WCF)

he's one ray allen shot away from being 1*/5 in the finals. It's crazy shit

[AirTupac]

lol it's not even just the lock out season. the 2012 ECF that year was rigged like none other (as was the WCF)

he's one ray allen shot away from being 1*/5 in the finals. It's crazy shit

You always post great stuff. Alpha stuff just like Westbrook. :applause:

[Ass Dan]

Bran>>>>>Kobe
Bran>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Durant

facts>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>agenda

[RoundMoundOfReb]

He's changed teams once in his career so far...and say he goes back to Cleveland this off-season - how on earth could one deem that as ring chasing...

[moe94]

He's changed teams once in his career so far...and say he goes back to Cleveland this off-season - how on earth could one deem that as ring chasing...

And if he stayed on the Cavs and won nothing, the story would be he was a beta choker who won no rings. :confusedshrug:

[zoom17]

And if he stayed on the Cavs and won nothing, the story would be he was a beta choker who won no rings. :confusedshrug:

like Barkley there would still use those ringless jokes.

[Sarcastic]

And if he stayed on the Cavs and won nothing, the story would be he was a beta choker who won no rings. :confusedshrug:

Cavs Bran def wasn't considered a beta. That moniker came about from joining Wade's team.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Cavs Bran def wasn't considered a beta. That moniker came about from joining Wade's team.
Him joining Wade's team and essentially making it his team would be more Alpha, wouldn't it?

[GimmeThat]

What about FMVP %?

2/5 >>> 2/7


you are not implying that instead of being a ring chaser
he's the trophy carrier now, do you?


DO YOU?!?!?!

[Sarcastic]

Him joining Wade's team and essentially making it his team would be more Alpha, wouldn't it?

No. It only happened because he bitched n moaned, and tanked a finals. That coupled with Wade's decline from age and injury made LeBron the better player on the team.

Heat is still Wade's team to REAL Miami fans.

[Knoe Itawl]

Haha, you trolls will ignore my thread about how Bron is 3rd most followed in a world dominated by soccer players. Bron is number 2 on most powerful celebs list by the prestigious Forbes magazine.

Millions of people will remember Bron as a top 5-10 player all time. ISH morons will continue to live in their delusional world.

:oldlol:

[Marchesk]

Haha, you trolls will ignore my thread about how Bron is 3rd most followed in a world dominated by soccer players. Bron is number 2 on most powerful celebs list by the prestigious Forbes magazine.

Millions of people will remember Bron as a top 5-10 player all time. ISH morons will continue to live in their delusional world.

Just as long as he stays in that 5-10 range, and nobody's comparing him to Jordan any longer, that's fine.

[moe94]

No. It only happened because he bitched n moaned, and tanked a finals. That coupled with Wade's decline from age and injury made LeBron the better player on the team.

Heat is still Wade's team to REAL Miami fans.

Are you saying Wade was a better player than LeBron before 2011?

[Knoe Itawl]

Just as long as he stays in that 5-10 range, and nobody's comparing him to Jordan any longer, that's fine.

Not the player Jordan was, only people that would say that are obnoxious Bron Stans. Still in a great position to retire high in the all time list.

[LeFraud James]

Check my stats? :confusedshrug:

[Knoe Itawl]

Check my stats? :confusedshrug:

stats = all time level
Current popularity = top NBA jersey sales, number 2 Forbes most powerful celebs, number 3 most followed in a list dominated by the world's most popular sport, soccer.

LeFraud James = mindless :rant hater

:oldlol:

[zoom17]

stats = all time level
Current popularity = top NBA jersey sales, number 2 Forbes most powerful celebs, number 3 most followed in a list dominated by the world's most popular sport, soccer.

LeFraud James = mindless :rant hater

:oldlol:

in before the 2/5 reply he will post lol

[Prometheus]

revisionist history lol. people were calling him a beta, yes even in Cleveland, because he liked to pass to the open man for game winning shot opportunities. brainwashed beta cowards trying to live vicariously through some hero-ball chucking alpha got mad at someone who just makes smart basketball plays even in pressure situations.

[Knoe Itawl]

revisionist history lol. people were calling him a beta, yes even in Cleveland, because he liked to pass to the open man for game winning shot opportunities. brainwashed beta cowards trying to live vicariously through some hero-ball chucking alpha got mad at someone who just makes smart basketball plays even in pressure situations.

Indeed. Bron most popular bball player in the world, most popular athlete in US, beyond NFL (most popular American sport).

Haters = maaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Only they will remember him as choker, beta, etc. etc.

Everyone else, top 5-10, better than Kobe. :oldlol:

[Prometheus]

Indeed. Bron most popular bball player in the world, most popular athlete in US, beyond NFL (most popular American sport).

Haters = maaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Only they will remember him as choker, beta, etc. etc.

Everyone else, top 5-10, better than Kobe. :oldlol:

why do you keep repeating this shit about his worldwide popularity? we're here to talk about his merit as a basketball player. I'm glad you're against the haters but I don't know wtf your point is honestly

[LeFraud James]

stats = all time level
Current popularity = top NBA jersey sales, number 2 Forbes most powerful celebs, number 3 most followed in a list dominated by the world's most popular sport, soccer.

LeFraud James = mindless :rant hater

:oldlol:

That's only because social media wasn't nearly as prevalent in the past as it is today.

You wanna throw some more sticks at the fire boy scout?

[Knoe Itawl]

why do you keep repeating this shit about his worldwide popularity? we're here to talk about his merit as a basketball player. I'm glad you're against the haters but I don't know wtf your point is honestly

I'm just trolling the trolls who say that "everyone outside of Miami hates him", "he will always be remembered as a colluder/choker/ring chaser, etc.". His popularity contradicts the mindless ISH haters both amongst casual and seasoned fans.

But I agree that the ONLY thing that matters in a player's legacy is his worth on the court. but the haters deny his value and his place all time by posting irrelevant, inconsequential, ridiculous, ludicrous nonsense so I like to smack them back down every now and then.

[LeFraud James]

I'm just trolling the trolls who say that "everyone outside of Miami hates him", "he will always be remembered as a colluder/choker/ring chaser, etc.". His popularity contradicts the mindless ISH haters both amongst casual and seasoned fans.

But I agree that the ONLY thing that matters in a player's legacy is his worth on the court. but the haters deny his value and his place all time by posting irrelevant, inconsequential, ridiculous, ludicrous nonsense so I like to smack them back down every now and then.

You sure smack em down alright. :rolleyes:

[Sarcastic]

Paris Hilton is more followed than Marilyn Monroe on Twitter.

That makes her better? :biggums:

[Knoe Itawl]

That's only because social media wasn't nearly as prevalent in the past as it is today.

You wanna throw some more sticks at the fire boy scout?

And? 13 million followers >>>>>>>> Lefraud James
2nd on Forbes most powerful celebes >>>>>>>> Lefraud James
Lebron top 5-10 better than Kobe career by the masses >>>>>>>>>> Lefraud James.

You wanna post some more basement dwelling nonsense?

:oldlol: :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

No. It only happened because he bitched n moaned, and tanked a finals. That coupled with Wade's decline from age and injury made LeBron the better player on the team.

Heat is still Wade's team to REAL Miami fans.

The Miami Heat are Mickey Arison's team.

[Knoe Itawl]

Paris Hilton is more followed than Marilyn Monroe on Twitter.

That makes her better? :biggums:

I'm talking about ISH haters who say no one respects him, he'll only be remembered as a colluder, 2/5 and other garbage.

Millions and millions respect him, 2nd most popular bball player all time after Jordan.

Haters = :rant

[Sarcastic]

The Miami Heat are Mickey Arison's team.

Thanks Capt Obvious.

90s Bulls are obvy Reinsdorfs team too.

[Legends66NBA7]

Thanks Capt Obvious.

90s Bulls are obvy Reinsdorfs team too.

Cool, as long as we got that straightened out.

[LeFraud James]

He has 500 million twitter followers, 400 million facebook friends, a disappearing hairline, and a face only a crackhead mother could love.

All very valid points my friend, however, none of this is really all that important. :confusedshrug:

B-b-but he has his own app :lebroncry:

[Legends66NBA7]

All very valid points my friend, however, none of this is really all that important. :confusedshrug:

Read the thread title.

[pauk]

Im sorry butthurt ISH Kobetard #687 but ring chasing is not coming to a bad team that barely reached the 8th seed either missing the playoffs or losing in 1st round since 2006 and instantly throttle that team on his back towards 4 straight Finals and 2 championships as the best player on that team and on the planet..... Ring chasing is coming to for example THAT championship team hunting for a ring, having a ring literally given to you no matter what you do, coming to a team knowing 100% you will get a ring handed to you on a silverplate, usually done by veterans...

Lebron sure is championship driven though, so he went out to seek greener pastures after playing with scrubs for 7 years, but HE was the main reason towards any of the success that followed.... he still had to work even harder to get those championships, it wasnt really any dance on the roses... he progressed it & earned it himself...

[20Four]

Bran>>>>>Kobe
Bran>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Durant

facts>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>agenda
Mcdonalds>you :roll:

[DaSeba5]

No. It only happened because he bitched n moaned, and tanked a finals. That coupled with Wade's decline from age and injury made LeBron the better player on the team.

Heat is still Wade's team to REAL Miami fans.

No. I'm a real Heat fan and it's LeBron's team. Wade took a back seat in order for them to win. Even Wade will tell you it's LeBron's team. Wade doesn't get enough credit for accepting a sidekick role after being the man guy for so many years.

[pauk]

I seriously dont get you Kobetards though, this is not 2007.... I know you hate Lebron for your obvious agenda in honor of Kobe but that at this moment doesnt make sense..... I mean Kobe is not that player anymore and/or done and/or soon to retire, in bad position team success wise... meanwhile Lebron is in the most extreme opposite situation to that at this moment, there is nothing for you to rival about, its the absolutely worst time to be a Lebron hater.... you need to learn to live with his success if you want to continue watching NBA, there is no material out there for you at all until you wait for a couple of years where he manages to finally one year NOT win a championship/fmvp or mvp, like this year..........

[20Four]

I seriously dont get you Kobetards though, this is not 2007.... I know you hate Lebron for your obvious agenda in honor of Kobe but that at this moment doesnt make sense..... I mean Kobe is not that player anymore and/or done and/or soon to retire, in bad position team success wise... meanwhile Lebron is in the most extreme opposite situation to that at this moment, there is nothing for you to rival about, its the absolutely worst time to be a Lebron hater.... you need to learn to live with his success if you want to continue watching NBA, there is no material out there for you at all until you wait for a couple of years where he manages to finally one year NOT win a championship/fmvp or mvp, like this year..........
5>2

[LeFraud James]

Im sorry butthurt ISH Kobetard #687 but ring chasing is not coming to a bad team that barely reached the 8th seed either missing the playoffs or losing in 1st round since 2006 and instantly throttle that team on his back towards 4 straight Finals and 2 championships as the best player on that team and on the planet..... Ring chasing is coming to for example THAT championship team hunting for a ring, having a ring literally given to you no matter what you do, coming to a team knowing 100% you will get a ring handed to you on a silverplate, usually done by veterans... Lebron sure is championship driven though...

No other all-time great would have promised their hometown city a championship, only to leave them high and dry several years later. That repeated failure of not having enough help would have driven even the smallest minded superstar to improve their game while trying to get more help, but such was not the case with your precious LeBron.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Pat Riley recruit LeBron along with Bosh with the assistance of Wade?

Now go crawl back into your hole.

[coin24]

I seriously dont get you Kobetards though, this is not 2007.... I know you hate Lebron for your obvious agenda in honor of Kobe but that at this moment doesnt make sense..... I mean Kobe is not that player anymore and/or done and/or soon to retire, in bad position team success wise... meanwhile Lebron is in the most extreme opposite situation to that at this moment, there is nothing for you to rival about, its the absolutely worst time to be a Lebron hater.... you need to learn to live with his success if you want to continue watching NBA, there is no material out there for you at all until you wait for a couple of years where he manages to finally one year NOT win a championship/fmvp or mvp, like this year..........


2/5:lol :lol

[Legends66NBA7]

No. I'm a real Heat fan and it's LeBron's team. Wade took a back seat in order for them to win. Even Wade will tell you it's LeBron's team. Wade doesn't get enough credit for accepting a sidekick role after being the man guy for so many years.

No worries, Sarcastic's "logic" is pretty much used by rednecks as I used to encounter these type of people all over the internet after the Heat lost in 2011. There's really no point trying to argue.

Majority of the people with their heads on straight already know James runs the show and they go as far as he does. And if the there are "real Heat fans" that think that way, their just biased homers for Wade or biased detractors for James.

[Kvnzhangyay]

And? 13 million followers >>>>>>>> Lefraud James
2nd on Forbes most powerful celebes >>>>>>>> Lefraud James
Lebron top 5-10 better than Kobe career by the masses >>>>>>>>>> Lefraud James.

You wanna post some more basement dwelling nonsense?

:oldlol: :roll:

Don't do em like that :cheers: :cheers:

[LeFraud James]

Read the thread title.

I read the thread title.

Would you care to explain to me how LeBron having 13 million followers and being 2nd on a forbes list has absolutely anything to do with him not being a ring chaser?

[Kvnzhangyay]

I read the thread title.

Would you care to explain to me how LeBron having 13 million followers and being 2nd on a forbes list has absolutely anything to do with him not being a ring chaser?

Define ring chaser. What is your definition? It might be different from mine. By my definition, if the player is the best player on any team he goes to he is not a ringchaser, he is being the alpha dog. If you disagree with it, that's fine, we can agree to disagree

[Kvnzhangyay]

I see you have an alternate username Knoe Itawl :cheers:

Nah idk who he is

[knicksman]

And? 13 million followers >>>>>>>> Lefraud James
2nd on Forbes most powerful celebes >>>>>>>> Lefraud James
Lebron top 5-10 better than Kobe career by the masses >>>>>>>>>> Lefraud James.

You wanna post some more basement dwelling nonsense?

:oldlol: :roll:

At the end of the day, youre just exposing your betaness. The haters are competing with bran while youre too weak to compete with him. So we>>>>>you.

[coin24]

Joining an MVP contemporary in his own conference, and a top five PF in order for "it's gon be easy" is about as un-Alpha as it gets.

This.

Bran is as beta as it gets:oldlol:

[Angel Face]

Imagine if Ray Allen didn't save his legacy in the Finals last year... 1/5 :oldlol:

[GOBB]

KG was once called a loser then he finally won rings. Now fans like hes a big ole meany.

[Joey3000]

You cant be a ring chaser when you are the one carrying the team.

[Legends66NBA7]

I read the thread title.

Would you care to explain to me how LeBron having 13 million followers and being 2nd on a forbes list has absolutely anything to do with him not being a ring chaser?

That the 13 million or so followers and the followers on Forbes will have a far different opinion on LeBron James than his detractors will on here. You say term ring chasing is a fact or some negative to LeBron, when it's not. Since when did a #1 option with a career like LeBron become a "ring chaser", when your doing the heavy lifting on the team ? This garbage as perspective and logic belongs to someone Chris Bosh more than did does for LeBron. If it's for older players, it belongs to Ray Allen.

But here's the even fault in all the detractors logic... players play the game to win. What the **** else are they supposed to do when the come into the league till the end of the career ? There's isn't some rule book where your supposed to win a title in a particular circumstance for every single individual and team. Not every title run is equal.

I don't expect much logic from detractors and this thread, though. If he never won a title, it's because he's soft and a beta. If he wins, it's because he colluded so it doesn't count, and he's a ring chaser.

[Roundball_Rock]

No other all-time great would have promised their hometown city a championship, only to leave them high and dry several years later.

Free agency as we know it did not even exist until the late 80's and it was not until this century that it became relatively common for elite players to switch teams via free agency (Shaq is the only one who did so in his prime in the 90's). There will be more LeBron's in the future. This isn't the 60's where players weren't changing teams as free agents.


Greatest achievement(s) so far are his 4 NBA MVP Awards in addition to an ATG peak and a memorable 2012 Finals run. The competition and strength of era for the aforementioned is subject to debate and another matter, but winning three-plus doesn't really happen by accident and he's in elite company there.

6 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1980)
5 - Bill Russell (1958, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1965)
5 - Michael Jordan (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
4 - Wilt Chamberlain (1960, 1966, 1967, 1968)
4 - Lebron James (2009, 2010, 2012, 2013)
3 - Larry Bird (1984, 1985, 1986)
3 - Magic Johnson (1987, 1989, 1990)
3 - Moses Malone (1979, 1982, 1983)

Six of those other guys are absolute Top 10 locks while another is usually right on the fringe.

:applause:


That the 13 million or so followers and the followers on Forbes will have a far different opinion on LeBron James than his detractors will on here.

Exactly. Other than some diehard basketball fans, no one calls him a "colluder" or "ring chaser." He is viewed by the general public as the best player in the game and this generation's GOAT caliber player.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Joining an MVP contemporary in his own conference, and a top five PF in order for "it's gon be easy" is about as un-Alpha as it gets.

I think you meant YOUR definition of Alpha *

[Rubio2Gasol]

This proccess is foolish.

What should have happened: Lebron should have re-signed within one hour of free agency opening. for the absolute maximum. The Heat would be in a much better position than they are now.

[DMV2]

I don't think he's a ring chaser but he definitely has beta mentality, a mental midget, a follower.

Just look at his post-game press conferences, he always need Wade to answer his questions.