Remember this? Shaq SLAYS Kobe to the moon. Goat slay.

[Bless Mathews]

Shaq is my niggah. One of my favorites of all time.

Fucc a snitchin ass white boy named Kobe.

Shaq SLAYS him to death.

http://youtu.be/Z49whgBNCyE

[BasedTom]

Shaq was a beast

[ottooooooo]

shaq got a vasectomy?

[rhowen4]

Goat slay LMAO

[eliteballer]

and Kobe went on to surpass Shaq in titles:oldlol:

[CelticBaller]

Rip rapist

[russwest0]

and Kobe went on to surpass Shaq in titles:oldlol:

Shaq started trying to ring chase and shit just so he wouldn't get passed too :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[JohnFreeman]

slayed

[Draz]

Lmfaoo

[PJR]

Classic.

[longtime lurker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TRyS9RjDO4

[JohnFreeman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TRyS9RjDO4
FMVPs doe

[Bless Mathews]

and Kobe went on to surpass Shaq in titles:oldlol:
Kobe would only have 2 without Shaq.


Smh.

[Meticode]

Kobe would only have 2 without Shaq.


Smh.
They needed each other. You honestly feel they still make those title runs without Kobe on the team? Undoubtedly Shaq was the most important player on that team, but Kobe was the X factor.

[Bless Mathews]

They needed each other. You honestly feel they still make those title runs without Kobe on the team? Undoubtedly Shaq was the most important player on that team, but Kobe was the X factor.
Shaq could have won them with other players instead of Kobe.


Not other way around.


Period.

[Marchesk]

Shaq could have won them with other players instead of Kobe.


Not other way around.


Period.

But he would need a player on the level of Kobe to get past the Spurs and Kings, or a better overall team. And Kobe went off against the Spurs.

[dubeta]

:applause:

Shaq putting Kirby in his place

[kennethgriffin]

FMVPs doe

kareem 2 finals mvps.. shaq,duncan > kareem?

moses 3 season mvps.. moses > hakeem,shaq,kobe,oscar?

nash 2 season mvps.. nash > hakeem,shaq,kobe,oscar?

bird 2 finals mvps.. shaq,duncan >bird?

billups 1 finals mvp = isiah?

leonard 1 finals mvp = wade?

cedric 1 finals mvp = dirk?

derrick rose 1 season mvp = shaq, kobe, oscar, hakeem?

allen iverson 1 season mvp = shaq, kobe, oscar, hakeem?




its about number of rings by mvp caliber players ( with obvious discounts given to 60's players )

if a guy has won atleast 1 mvp... then if hes winning titles.. he must be doing something

i don't trust the media. but everyone who deserves atleast 1 mvp has atleast 1 mvp asside from maybe jerry west.

so # of rings by mvps = the best measuring stick

( anyones rings from the 60's = half value )

[Lamar Odumbb]

Shaq could have won them with other players instead of Kobe.


Not other way around.


Period.

How come Shaq only won 1 title without Kobe you fukken moron. In 1997, Shaq had Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, Rick Fox, and Horry yet couldnt win a ring until Kobe became Kobe.

[Bless Mathews]

How come Shaq only won 1 title without Kobe you fukken moron. In 1997, Shaq had Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, Rick Fox, and Horry yet couldnt win a ring until Kobe became Kobe.
Lol.

Always know when insecure Kobe Stan's are mad...

Go right to name callin.

We haven't even exchanged in the thread yet cuz. Bad you cursin and errythang.

Smh. Insecure Stan

Shaq > kobe

[masonanddixon]

1960s--people singing along to the Beatles
2000s-people singing along to 'Kobe how my ass taste'

[imdaman99]

Kobe would only have 2 without Shaq.


Smh.
Shaq would only have 1 without Kobe.


Smh.


You went there :coleman:

Tell me who the better #2 was when they won away from each other. Wade or Pau?

[JohnMax]

My hatred of Kobe has died now that hes not a threat to win another ring and threaten the legacies of superior players like Duncan and Lebron.

-

[dubeta]

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10458127_1477204162521205_6118006334260954481_n.jp g

[Force]

Shaq could have won them with other players instead of Kobe.


Not other way around.


Period.

EXACTLY. It's not even close, Shaq was so far more dominant than any other player, it's sad how people try to rewrite history. The Lakers won a title and then Phil tried to TRADE KOBE even after winning a title.

Prime Shaq with Phil and all those role players could have won at least one ring if you took Kobe away and replaced him with Vince Carter, Jerry Stackhouse. Players of that level.

[kennethgriffin]

My hatred of Kobe has died now that hes not a threat to win another ring and threaten the legacies of superior players like Duncan and Lebron.

Hes a washed has been who should only have 2 rings if it were not for Shaq. He needed the most stacked team of all time to barely beat the Celtics in 2010.

History will show he is the mos overrated player of all time.



contradiction

you value rings as the measurment of greatness by saying "i dont hate kobe now that he cant win rings and threaten legacies."

but then you mention "LEBRON"?

so you were scared of kobe when he was winning championships. and he was threatening to you because of winning championships

so you value championships and it is the main thing you are afraid of

then say kobe cant catch ...............................lebron ?














































:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

EXACTLY. It's not even close, Shaq was so far more dominant than any other player, it's sad how people try to rewrite history. The Lakers won a title and then Phil tried to TRADE KOBE even after winning a title.

Prime Shaq with Phil and all those role players could have won at least one ring if you took Kobe away and replaced him with Vince Carter, Jerry Stackhouse. Players of that level.


if players were only measured by their peaks... tracy mcgrady would be a top 10 player all time

kobe had the better career.



people change their criteria for ranking players to fit their agenda


think about this... if it was a shaq, wilt, oscar, baylor vs jordan debate

it would automatically turn into a career resume contest

since absolute peak shaq, wilt, oscar, baylor were more impressive than jordan

so that cant possibly be what people will compare


BUT... since kobe has a better career than shaq... now it becomes a peak debate. they rank players all time on 1 season

yeah OK


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Lamar Odumbb]

Lol.

Always know when insecure Kobe Stan's are mad...

Go right to name callin.

We haven't even exchanged in the thread yet cuz. Bad you cursin and errythang.

Smh. Insecure Stan

Shaq > kobe

I stated that Magic is better than Kobe so if anything Im a Magic stan.

I get it you hate Kobe but your whole angry black man act is boring.

[GimmeThat]

I wish the Knicks couldn't offer Melo that much money.

Kobe is appearing to be extremely easy to be built around with star talents in the league.

[monkeypox]

Lol so Kobe can't win a title without Shaq. Except he actually lead two title teams without him. Shaq could have won without Kobe, yet his whole career he was only able to coat-tail one title without him. Like someone said, Shaq has played with some great players over his career including LeBron, Nash, Penny, Eddy Jones, Nick Van Excel and Wade, yet he was only able to win once without Kobe.

If they gave out playoff MVP's rather than finals MVP Kobe would have taken a couple away from Shaq. Kobe carried those teams in the real finals in the western conference while Shaq sat on his butt because of foul trouble or because he couldn't shoot free throws. Of course he won the finals MVP when they finally feasted on the weak Eastern conference teams. Larry Brown in the year the Pistons beat the Lakers said after studying the Lakers they realized that you beat them by focusing on Kobe, because they realized that letting shaq go off didn't lead to wins for the Lakers.

[LoneyROY7]

"I'm a horse. Kobe ratted me out, that's why I'm getting divorced. He said Shaq gave a b*tch a mil. I don't do dat, cause my name Shaquille."

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[monkeypox]

He "ratted" Shaq out in a off the record conversation with a cop when he still thought this girl just wanted a pay out. They leaked it to the press along with other details to try to pressure Kobe.

Also lol at "freestyle" when you see members of his crew mouthing the words, sometimes getting to words before he does.

[NumberSix]

and Kobe went on to surpass Shaq in titles:oldlol:
Yeah, as did Derek Fisher. Doesn't count for as much.

[NumberSix]

How come Shaq only won 1 title without Kobe you fukken moron. In 1997, Shaq had Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, Rick Fox, and Horry yet couldnt win a ring until Kobe became Kobe.
How come Jordan won 0 titles without Pippen?

Shaq can win without Fisher. Kobe can't.
Shaq won without Phil. Kobe can't.
Kobe can't win a FMVP without Luke Walton.

[MJ(Mean John)]

Shaq is my niggah. One of my favorites of all time.

Fucc a snitchin ass white boy named Kobe.

Shaq SLAYS him to death.

http://youtu.be/Z49whgBNCyE

Hilarious that you felt the need to call him white.

[pauk]

and Kobe went on to surpass Shaq in titles:oldlol:

Numerically yes, but not when you put some context into it. I mean
Shaq has 3 titles which HE brought (meaning being the man/mvp/fmvp/best player)
Kobe has 2 titles which HE brought.

The other 3 of Kobe's rings have Shaq's signutare allover them....

[ArbitraryWater]

They needed each other. You honestly feel they still make those title runs without Kobe on the team? Undoubtedly Shaq was the most important player on that team, but Kobe was the X factor.

Kobe was the X Factor ?!?!?

Shaq was the most dominant player of all time, Kobe needed Shaq, he couldn't have done it with anyone else....

While for Kobe, replace him with another top 5, maybe even 10 player, and Shaq still wins those rings... smfh


ESPECIALLY in 2000 and 2001... Both years you can replace Kobe with a top 10 guy and they still win.

2000 Kobe was top 10 himself, missed 2 of the 6 finals games, averaged 16 ppg on 36%, can be replaced...

WCF? Mediocre series, big game 7... Can be replaced, as well... Someone might just cut that game 7 a little earlier and then the Lakers win in 5 or 6.

2001 was Kobe's best, but the margin for error was huge, they still win with any other top 10 guy...

2002? I have no worries beating the Kings or Nets, as Kobe sucked in the WCF vs Kings, and the Nets are one of the weakest finals teams ever... Only the WCSF against the Spurs would be close, as Kobe closed out both road wins and probably outplayed Shaq throughout the series.

[STATUTORY]

Kobe was the X Factor ?!?!?

Shaq was the most dominant player of all time, Kobe needed Shaq, he couldn't have done it with anyone else....

While for Kobe, replace him with another top 5, maybe even 10 player, and Shaq still wins those rings... smfh


ESPECIALLY in 2000 and 2001... Both years you can replace Kobe with a top 10 guy and they still win.

2000 Kobe was top 10 himself, missed 2 of the 6 finals games, averaged 16 ppg on 36%, can be replaced...

WCF? Mediocre series, big game 7... Can be replaced, as well... Someone might just cut that game 7 a little earlier and then the Lakers win in 5 or 6.

2001 was Kobe's best, but the margin for error was huge, they still win with any other top 10 guy...

2002? I have no worries beating the Kings or Nets, as Kobe sucked in the WCF vs Kings, and the Nets are one of the weakest finals teams ever... Only the WCSF against the Spurs would be close, as Kobe closed out both road wins and probably outplayed Shaq throughout the series.


this kid clearly didn't watch ball back then. Kobe wasn't the ex factor against Spurs, Trailblazers, Kings, in the WCF? :facepalm

[Eric Cartman]

"I'm a horse. Kobe ratted me out, that's why I'm getting divorced. He said Shaq gave a b*tch a mil. I don't do dat, cause my name Shaquille."

:roll: :roll: :roll:

That part killed me as well :lol :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

this kid clearly didn't watch ball back then. Kobe wasn't the ex factor against Spurs, Trailblazers, Kings, in the WCF? :facepalm

All this "WCF Kobe dominated the real teams!!!" talk, when he was VERY mediocre in both 2000 and 2002... Nothing special at all.

Shaq was a beast all 3 WCF's, outplaying Kobe by a WIDE MARGIN in 2000 and 2002, but ohhhh, because Kobe finally has a great WCF in 2001 as well, now right up there with Shaq, it's "Kobe dominated the REAL FINALS in the WCF where Shaq didn't do shit!!"

And even in 2001 you can still argue between who was the man...

Kobe: 33/7/7 on 51%
Shaq: 27/13/3 on 54% as main offensive AND DEFENSIVE anchor, WHILE matching up with the twin towers of Robinson/Duncan on both ends...

Players lived off of the attention Shaq got, extra space.

[STATUTORY]

"I'm a horse. Kobe ratted me out, that's why I'm getting divorced. He said Shaq gave a b*tch a mil. I don't do dat, cause my name Shaquille."

:roll: :roll: :roll:

:roll: :roll: n99a tries to burn Kobe, but in reality Shaq is divorced and paying alimony/child support while Kobe still has his wife and family

how dat ass taste

[Rubio2Gasol]

I forgot he said he was better than Kareem :lol

[longtime lurker]

"I'm a horse. Kobe ratted me out, that's why I'm getting divorced. He said Shaq gave a b*tch a mil. I don't do dat, cause my name Shaquille."

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shaq is a goof but that line and whole rap was hilarious.

[AirFederer]

Remember this lol!

Shaq>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe

[Soundwave]

:roll: :roll: n99a tries to burn Kobe, but in reality Shaq is divorced and paying alimony/child support while Kobe still has his wife and family

how dat ass taste

Meh Vanessa has Kobe by the balls, he knows it too, that's why he couldn't take a pay cut, he knows Vanessa has threatened divorce twice and can talk half when ever she feels like it, so his current Lakers contract is to cover his rear end in that situation.

[Springsteen]

FMVP GOAT slaying that beeytch he carried :applause:

[STATUTORY]

Meh Vanessa has Kobe by the balls, he knows it too, that's why he couldn't take a pay cut, he knows Vanessa has threatened divorce twice and can talk half when ever she feels like it, so his current Lakers contract is to cover his rear end in that situation.

keep hoping and wishing, Vanessa is a ride and die b!tch, she will stay with Kobe till the end

[Soundwave]

keep hoping and wishing, Vanessa is a ride and die b!tch, she will stay with Kobe till the end

Kobe would take a paycut if he was sure about it, IMO he's not, and he's smart to not be sure, if a b!tch has already threatened divorce twice and gone to the brink of doing so, from now until forever is a long time.

She can take half when ever she wants, Kobe knows it, so he had to take a max contract to cover himself in case that ever happen in the next 10, 20, 30 years.

His current contract that basically cripples the Lakers is an "I need to cover my ass in case of a divorce someday" contract on Kobe's part.

Who's to say in 10-15 years, Kobe himself won't want a younger, better looking piece of ass either.

[Nash]

I don't get this, we know Kobe wouldn't not have won during those times without Shaq and that Shaq was the main reason they won.

But, we also know Kobe won 2 without Shaq.

Basically, Kobe got to spend his early years with the prime force of nature that is Shaq and when Shaq got older Kobe showed that he could win in his prime too.

[GimmeThat]

Meh Vanessa has Kobe by the balls, he knows it too, that's why he couldn't take a pay cut, he knows Vanessa has threatened divorce twice and can talk half when ever she feels like it, so his current Lakers contract is to cover his rear end in that situation.


2/15296


nah, I honestly don't know how often they sleep together

[Jameerthefear]

no dumb bitch should be able to take half your money. SMH at the laws against men

[GimmeThat]

Kobe would take a paycut if he was sure about it, IMO he's not, and he's smart to not be sure, if a b!tch has already threatened divorce twice and gone to the brink of doing so, from now until forever is a long time. She can take half when ever she wants, Kobe knows it, so he had to take a max contract to cover himself in case that ever happen in the next 10, 20, 30 years.

His current contract that basically cripples the Lakers is an "I need to cover my ass in case of a divorce someday" contract on Kobe's part.

Who's to say in 10-15 years, Kobe himself won't want a younger, better looking piece of ass either.

practice? we talking about practice?

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Lol so Kobe can't win a title without Shaq. Except he actually lead two title teams without him. Shaq could have won without Kobe, yet his whole career he was only able to coat-tail one title without him. Like someone said, Shaq has played with some great players over his career including LeBron, Nash, Penny, Eddy Jones, Nick Van Excel and Wade, yet he was only able to win once without Kobe.

If they gave out playoff MVP's rather than finals MVP Kobe would have taken a couple away from Shaq. Kobe carried those teams in the real finals in the western conference while Shaq sat on his butt because of foul trouble or because he couldn't shoot free throws. Of course he won the finals MVP when they finally feasted on the weak Eastern conference teams. Larry Brown in the year the Pistons beat the Lakers said after studying the Lakers they realized that you beat them by focusing on Kobe, because they realized that letting shaq go off didn't lead to wins for the Lakers.

:applause:

[Andrei89]

****ing b1tch a$$ snitch doe!!

[Bless Mathews]

Hilarious that you felt the need to call him white.
He is.

Niggahs don't snitch. Smh.

Kobe is a spoon fed, spioled brat, growing up around all white people , don't know how to act Caucasian.

Pretty simple when you break it down.

Jim brown got my back.

[Swaggaboy80six]

Shaq could have won them with other players instead of Kobe.


Not other way around.


Period.
What ever helps you sleep at night nikka! Thats why he couldn't win with Penny Hardaway? You dumb fvcking monkey? Freal where do these virgin kids come from? Crack houses? fvcking idiot mother fvcker, your lucky fakkit I dont know you in person or I would straight smack the $hit out of you

[Lamar Odumbb]

He is.

Niggahs don't snitch. Smh.

Kobe is a spoon fed, spioled brat, growing up around all white people , don't know how to act Caucasian.

Pretty simple when you break it down.

Jim brown got my back.

So now you are angry at Kobe for somehting he had no control over, growing up with white people in Italy.

So if a real African from Africa calls you out and says you aint really a Black man because you grew up in america, they must be correct right.

[The_Yearning]

How Kobe still claim to be from Philly snitching is beyond me.

[Artillery]

Shaq in his book:

[I]"My first Lakers season we had a couple of rookies, and we hazed them pretty badly. We were dogging them out constantly. It was "Go get my bags, go get me something to eat." It was kind of a rite of passage in the NBA that a lot of teams do, but we probably went a little too far with it. One of the rookies

[iTare]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/PE2V/kobe-snitch/image.png

[Bless Mathews]

So now you are angry at Kobe for somehting he had no control over, growing up with white people in Italy.

So if a real African from Africa calls you out and says you aint really a Black man because you grew up in america, they must be correct right.
No.

Has nothing to do with Africans.

Were in America.

You wouldn't know the struggles of being a black man in America. I do.

Kobe grew up in Italy. Then high school in Lower merion , pa. Google the demographics. Smh.

Kobe is a snitchin b1tch because he grew up with a silver spoon, entitled.

Punk ass.

[Bless Mathews]

[QUOTE=Artillery]Shaq in his book:

[I]"My first Lakers season we had a couple of rookies, and we hazed them pretty badly. We were dogging them out constantly. It was "Go get my bags, go get me something to eat." It was kind of a rite of passage in the NBA that a lot of teams do, but we probably went a little too far with it. One of the rookies