Official Nerlens Noel Summer League thread

[Dr.J4ever]

Nerlens Noel makes his debut today in the Orlando Summer League. The start of something big? ROY?:rockon:

[DukeDelonte13]

:oldlol: He's no ROY, but he was who i wanted the cavs to take last season.

It's going to be interesting to see how his game translates to the NBA.

[Dr.J4ever]

Some things to watch from Liberty Ballers.com:

What should we look for from Nerlens? Here's a few things:

+ Agility: the torn ACL can take more than a year to fully recover. Can he be as aggressive as advertised in his perimeter trapping defense and still get back to the paint to defend the rim? Will he be restricted in any way?
+ Jumper: see if he takes (and makes) some jumpers with the re-worked jump shot that he spent a full year rebuilding.
+ The Hair: no explanation necessary.:lol

[salwan]

Wish the kid well. :applause:
Injuries suck and he has the coolest hairstyle in the nba

[Ratnik]

In all seriousness, is he eligible for ROY?

[Purch]

In all seriousness, is he eligible for ROY?
Yea, just like Blake Griffin was

[Cocaine80s]

inb4 5 pts 6 rebounds 41% shooting

[GOBB]

He's eligible but I don't see how he is going to win ROY with this draft class.

I have him blocking 10 shots today. :pimp:

[Dr.J4ever]

Some more excerpts from CSNPhilly today:

1. Noel is a shot blocker. He needs to protect the rim the way he did for the Kentucky Wildcats when he averaged 4.4 blocks per game.

2. Brett Brown spent the entire 2013-14 season reworking Noel's shot. Noel, day after day, shot one handed in an effort to not let his guide hand influence his release.

Pay attention to Noel when he goes to the foul line. He was a 52.9 percent free-throw shooter at Kentucky. Being a 60-percent shooter at the line this week would be an excellent indicator Brown's investment in changing Noel's shot was worthy.

3. There are questions about Noel being able to hold his own in the low post given his 228-pound frame. He will not face the likes of a Dwight Howard or Marc Gasol in the summer league, but Noel needs to show he can use his athleticism to counter centers with bigger bodies.

4. Michael Carter-Williams will be the point guard orchestrating the Sixers' offense this fall, but this week Noel needs to trust Casper Ware, Aaron Craft and Pierre Jackson with the point guard duties. Those players will be looking for Noel, especially in transition.

Noel needs to run the floor and finish at the rim. The Sixers were the top team in pace last season. Expect them to be a high-octane squad this week as well.

5. Noel has missed playing a game he loves. Because he has been sidelined for 18 months, Noel will be excited. He can't let his emotions and adrenaline dictate his actions. He needs to channel his energy in a positive way to help his team be successful. He doesn't have to prove he is healthy and arguably the best player on the court.

[DukeDelonte13]

in interested to see if he developed a little face up game. He had a few moves at college.

[BoutPractice]

He'll probably be a bit rusty, so let's not judge him too early.

[ralph_i_el]

This thread should be "Aaron Craft RoY watch" lol

[chocolatethunder]

Some things to watch from Liberty Ballers.com:

What should we look for from Nerlens? Here's a few things:

+ Agility: the torn ACL can take more than a year to fully recover. Can he be as aggressive as advertised in his perimeter trapping defense and still get back to the paint to defend the rim? Will he be restricted in any way?
+ Jumper: see if he takes (and makes) some jumpers with the re-worked jump shot that he spent a full year rebuilding.
+ The Hair: no explanation necessary.:lol
This is what I heard from inside Sixers camp. Noel is fast as shit and long. If you play up on him he'll get around you but if you play off of him he cannot hit a shot to save his life. The people I know there say he air balls FTs and is just not good offensively. Say he can run the floor like a deer and get all kindsa lobs and putbacks but that when Embiid comes it's very possible that Embiid will be the four and Noel is the five. That doesn't really matter to me because I think of him like Theo Ratliff and so does Hinkie. They didn't draft him for scoring. But there is about zero chance that he becomes ROY. I'm excited to see him firsthand tho.

[Dr.J4ever]

This is what I heard from inside Sixers camp. Noel is fast as shit and long. If you play up on him he'll get around you but if you play off of him he cannot hit a shot to save his life. The people I know there say he air balls FTs and is just not good offensively. Say he can run the floor like a deer and get all kindsa lobs and putbacks but that when Embiid comes it's very possible that Embiid will be the four and Noel is the five. That doesn't really matter to me because I think of him like Theo Ratliff and so does Hinkie. They didn't draft him for scoring. But there is about zero chance that he becomes ROY. I'm excited to see him firsthand tho.

Well, yes you're right, but if he can finish close to the rim with some dunks, some lobs, and run the fast break on offense, I will be happy. Of course, this should all be liberally mixed with his athletic defense.

On ROY, I believe Vegas put some good odds for him winning ROY. Let me take a look, and if I find it, I will post it.

[JohnMax]

76ers have that pg from New Orleans that dominated D-League

:biggums:

[Dr.J4ever]

76ers have that pg from New Orleans that dominated D-League

:biggums:

Pierre Jackson. 29ppg in the Dleague. Another player to watch.

[west_tip]

Best of luck to him.

[chocolatethunder]

Well, yes you're right, but if he can finish close to the rim with some dunks, some lobs, and run the fast break on offense, I will be happy. Of course, this should all be liberally mixed with his athletic defense.

On ROY, I believe Vegas put some good odds for him winning ROY. Let me take a look, and if I find it, I will post it.

Yeah, he's going to get his points that way for sure but don't look for anything else. I have no problems with that at all and I'm very excited to see him play. The people have been telling me that he's so long and fast that he can recover and block a shot like nobody's business. Said he's very aggressive and goes for steals all the time.

Not really concerned what odds Vegas has for him, with Wiggins and Parker there's really no shot of him winning ROY. Not that that matters, he's a defender/rebounder. Excellent piece for the team moving forward.

[LeJohn Janes]

On ROY, I believe Vegas put some good odds for him winning ROY. Let me take a look, and if I find it, I will post it.
He is currently 15/1 to win ROY.

Not bad odds at all.

[Dr.J4ever]

Here are the Vegas odds for ROY:


Jabari Parker 13/5
Julius Randle 8/1
Andrew Wiggins 8/1
Marcus Smart 10/1
Dante Exum 10/1
Doug McDermott 15/1
Aaron Gordon 15/1
Nerlens Noel 15/1
Nik Stauskas 18/1
Shabazz Napier 18/1
Adreian Payne 25/1
Elfrid Payton 25/1
Noah Vonleh 25/1
PJ Hairston 25/1
Gary Harris 30/1
TJ Warren 35/1
Jordan Adams 35/1
James Young 40/1
Cleanthony Early 40/1
Mitch McGrary 50/1
Joel Embiid 50/1
Kyle Anderson 50/1

[DukeDelonte13]

is he going to get heavy minutes this year?

[Dr.J4ever]

is he going to get heavy minutes this year?
Yes, that's the plan.

[Meticode]

:oldlol: He's no ROY, but he was who i wanted the cavs to take last season.

It's going to be interesting to see how his game translates to the NBA.
Don't speak so soon.

[DukeDelonte13]

Don't speak so soon.


his NBA ceiling is like a super version of Larry Sanders.

Those types of players don't win ROY contests, especially when you got a scorer as capable as Jabari getting a green light. I think Randle and Smart will be competing for it as well.

I don't think Noel can score enough to be a ROY. Unless he puts up utterly ridiculous defensive stats, i don't think he's getting it.

[Meticode]

his NBA ceiling is like a super version of Larry Sanders.

Those types of players don't win ROY contests, especially when you got a scorer as capable as Jabari getting a green light. I think Randle and Smart will be competing for it as well.

I don't think Noel can score enough to be a ROY. Unless he puts up utterly ridiculous defensive stats, i don't think he's getting it.
Don't be so sure on things.

[Meticode]

Any free streams up?

[DukeDelonte13]

Don't be so sure on things.


i hear ya. Everybody was certain Davis was going to win it his rookie season including myself.

Can't wait for this 1pm game!! Can't wait to see Gordon too.

[Meticode]

i hear ya. Everybody was certain Davis was going to win it his rookie season including myself.

Can't wait for this 1pm game!! Can't wait to see Gordon too.
How are you watching it? TV? Ballstreams? Freestream?

[Dbrog]

How are you watching it? TV? Ballstreams? Freestream?

Just a heads up the summer league app has these games for free right now.


On topic: Smart showing some skills even though he's not playing that great. Napier just chucking :D

Ennis played well. Olynic(?) did too even though he looks like a lesbian :P

[Dr.J4ever]

Noel with the first points of the NBA Summer league with the flush.:bowdown:

[Dbrog]

dude jackson from the dleague looks real nice. They should pick him up. Would be sick offense and pace off the bench

[AnaheimLakers24]

him an embiid will be the most useless broken down front court ever

[Meticode]

him an embiid will be the most useless broken down front court ever
I don't think they'll work out together. Neither can shoot the mid-range jumper. Embiid is probably capable of it, if he works at it, but 80%+ of his shots at Kansas were 8 feet or closer to the basket.

I think the Sixers drafted Embiid to see if Noel or Embiid would work out better. Then once that's evaluated they'll trade or discard one of them once they figure out which one is the big-man of the future.

[Dbrog]

I don't think they'll work out together. Neither can shoot the mid-range jumper. Embiid is probably capable of it, if he works at it, but 80%+ of his shots at Kansas were 8 feet or closer to the basket.

I think the Sixers drafted Embiid to see if Noel or Embiid would work out better. Then once that's evaluated they'll trade or discard one of them once they figure out which one is the big-man of the future.

Actually agree with this. I think their spacing would be too messed up if they kept both ala Dwight/Asik. Noel pretty athletic though. Then again who knows...I mean Hakeem/Sampson was very good and you could have said the same about them once upon a time.

Also something I'm noticing so far, Noel looks a bit off as far as rebounding. Maybe it's just rust but he is misreading how it's bouncing off the rim and not really ever getting in good RB position.

[Dr.J4ever]

Noel playing well with 11 points, I think. Good defense too with a steal and some shots altered

[magnax1]

Link?

[Dr.J4ever]

Link?
Watching it live. 3.32 min left in the 1st half

[magnax1]

Watching it live. 3.32 min left in the 1st half
Yeah but....link?

[Dbrog]

Just a heads up the summer league app has these games for free right now.
:P

watch it on your phone yo

[no pun intended]

Yeah but....link?
http://ifirstrowus.eu/watch/221015/3/watch-nba-tv.html

[UK2K]

He got up so high

[Johnny Jones]

Noel still has to develop his body. He's getting pushed around easily by summer league bodies.

But damn he has great hands and quickness. Sixers made the right move drafting Embiid because Noel can't play center.

[Dr.J4ever]

Noel has 17 points and 4-4FTs. Looks like he's been working his FTs during his time off. He shot just over 50% FTs in college.

Just one board though so far with 4min. to go.

[bluechox2]

1 rebound

[Johnny Jones]

1 rebound
Combination of not gicing a f*ck in summer league and and being weak. Not a representation of what you'll see in 4 months.

[Dbrog]

Gordon doe with that block/steal! lol @ his almost fancy moves tho

[Dr.J4ever]

7-7 FTs for Noel. Some nice assists too. 20 points. I'm very happy:applause:

[dreamwarrior]

7-7 FTs for Noel. Some nice assists too. 20 points. I'm very happy:applause:

He didn't vacation in italy eating pasta and pizzas like kobe. the kid kept in shape and it shows

[DukeDelonte13]

he looked great. He didn't look physically outmatched.

[Meticode]

Nice to see Noel do well. Even though it doesn't mean much. In Tim Duncan's first Summer League game he got abused by Greg Ostertag apparently.

[Dr.J4ever]

he looked great. He didn't look physically outmatched.
That defense. I haven't seen the official box score yet, but he blocked a couple, stole a couple, and altered a few.

Not bad for a first game. I'm pretty impressed. That FT shooting is impressive. He was automatic from the line. That is huge. It means he's not a liability at the end of games like Howard was and still is.

[AI09]

Positives
19 points
6/11 shooting
7/7 freethrows
1 block 4 steals
Played solid defense under the basket altered shots and bothered the pgs with his length on the perimeter. The speed and quickness is there. Was the biggest presence from both teams in the post offensively and defensively.We will probaly be playing the fastest pace again this year so look for noel to use his speed quickness and explosiveness to block shots on one end and finish on the break on the other end.

Negatives
2 rebounds
4 turnovers
5 fouls
Although he was able to position himself down low to score and play defense he wasnt able to position himself for rebounds, got pushed off the block by the orlando bigs and doesnt box out well. His turnovers could just be rust or it could be a real concern, with him and MCW playing heavy minutes along with the rest of the rookies turnovers are gonna kill us this year. Hopefully he can play smart and limit them along with the fouls to many pump fakes got him off his feet.

[Meticode]

I watched few highlights. He gets down the court pretty fast.

[chocolatethunder]

That defense. I haven't seen the official box score yet, but he blocked a couple, stole a couple, and altered a few.

Not bad for a first game. I'm pretty impressed. That FT shooting is impressive. He was automatic from the line. That is huge. It means he's not a liability at the end of games like Howard was and still is.
Very happy w the freethrows disappointed with the rebounds. It summer league so I'm not too excited either way but it's just nice for him to play a real game.

[Im so nba'd out]

Can't wait to watch the highlights :rockon:

[outbreak]

I liked his positioning and his touch. He has improved a lot in his footwork and positioning i think.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Damn he runs the floor so well for a big man. I love watching him. Won't be surprised if he's ROY.

[Nash]

Is he the PF when Embiid returs or will Embiid start at the 4?

[chocolatethunder]

Is he the PF when Embiid returs or will Embiid start at the 4?
I think eventually he will be the five and Embiid the four because Embiid and shoot a little and was even shooting threes. It'll take a year or two I'd guess. Hinkie said they really didn't know because they want to see them develop but Embiid said that he thinks that he'll play the four eventually.

[DMAVS41]

He's gonna be the best player from the 13 draft.

Pelicans....:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Nash]

I think eventually he will be the five and Embiid the four because Embiid and shoot a little and was even shooting threes. It'll take a year or two I'd guess. Hinkie said they really didn't know because they want to see them develop but Embiid said that he thinks that he'll play the four eventually.
But Embiid is a true center, dude should be abusing down low.

[Purch]

Can't wait to watch the highlights :rockon:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t85Dzo-r5Ys

Dude runs the floor Extremly well. Reminds me of Bosh back in. His raptor days

[Cocaine80s]

He's bigger/ more athletic then I thought. Just saw a clip of that dunk he had. Was 2-3 feet away from the rim and dunked from a stand still position, pretty damn impressive

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I don't know how much or if he improved since college, but he has always looked like a 4 to me in high school and college.

[chocolatethunder]

But Embiid is a true center, dude should be abusing down low.
Yeah that's what I think/thought, that's just what they said. I guess we'll see. Noel is the opposite of a stretch four that's for sure. He's very very fast and long so he can cover a four no problem. He's more limited offensively than Embiid so that may be why Embiid thinks he can be a four alongside Noel. Dunno.

[JGXEN]

im jumping on the sixers bandwagon. the future is so bright for this young team

[artificial]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=t85Dzo-r5Ys

Dude runs the floor Extremly well. Reminds me of Bosh back in. His raptor days
Sweet! Thanks for the link!


It's summer league so I won't go on a parade about his numbers on offense, but it does makes me very happy to see Noel healthy :D

[Dr.J4ever]

So what's Noel's best position? 4 or 5? He's a little too slender for the 5 right now, and he's athletic enough to go out to the 3 point line to play smaller guys.

What you think?

[GOBB]

Noel can play PF, no question. By time Embiid balls drop Noel should be much stronger. So his lack of strength now wont matter. I just think he can defend 4's much better than Embiid could. Its summer league but even in his HS and college footage. His long ass arms have been disruptive with ball handlers. He plucks guys. Should be able to guard face up Forwards with his quickness and length.

Both can play on the court at the same time.


Noel plays a tough guy in Steven Adams. Lets see how Noel reacts to him vs yesterday crapola.

[GOBB]

Very happy w the freethrows disappointed with the rebounds. It summer league so I'm not too excited either way but it's just nice for him to play a real game.

Did you catch replay? I dont think his lack of rebounds was a problem. A lot of balls just didnt fall his way. Wasn't like he lost battles on the glass vs guys. Check his matchups they didnt rebound well either. Hollis led both teams with 14 rebounds. Noel had good position underneath. Not to say he didnt get bumped around. He also didnt set good screens yesterday.

[Dr.J4ever]

Noel can play PF, no question. By time Embiid balls drop Noel should be much stronger. So his lack of strength now wont matter. I just think he can defend 4's much better than Embiid could. Its summer league but even in his HS and college footage. His long ass arms have been disruptive with ball handlers. He plucks guys. Should be able to guard face up Forwards with his quickness and length.

Both can play on the court at the same time.


Noel plays a tough guy in Steven Adams. Lets see how Noel reacts to him vs yesterday crapola.
Yes, it should be interesting with Adams.

I can easily see now how Embiid and Noel can play together defensively, but on offense how do you figure? In a league where many teams play with 1 big and 4 smalls in crunch time, can the Sixers pull this off?

[B-hoop]

Yea i can see him playing as a 4, would reduce the matchup problems he would face against the stronger 5s and he is quick enough to guard the 4. Still i can see him having some problems with the stronger 4s like Griffin and Ibaka.

[tomtucker]

lets hope the best for noel, and parker and wiggins too.......just a shame we can

[ZenMaster]

Noel can play PF, no question. By time Embiid balls drop Noel should be much stronger. So his lack of strength now wont matter. I just think he can defend 4's much better than Embiid could. Its summer league but even in his HS and college footage. His long ass arms have been disruptive with ball handlers. He plucks guys. Should be able to guard face up Forwards with his quickness and length.

Both can play on the court at the same time.


Noel plays a tough guy in Steven Adams. Lets see how Noel reacts to him vs yesterday crapola.

Won't be succesful if they can't shoot.

[Meticode]

Won't be succesful if they can't shoot.
That's what I was thinking.

[Dr.J4ever]

Sixers brass want to take it easy with Noel. He may not play today in their 2nd game of the Orlando Summer league.

What's the latest? Has anyone heard anything on Noel's availability?

[GOBB]

Won't be succesful if they can't shoot.

Embiid should be able too. I don't know if Noel will ever be a shooter.

[ZenMaster]

Embiid should be able too. I don't know if Noel will ever be a shooter.

Embiids potential as a back to the basket player is much better than his jump shot though.

Edit: I could see it working, maybe if Embiid can improve a lot on his jumper and if Noel plays REALLY good defense that leads to him fast breaking.

[StateProperty]

[QUOTE]During this mode, the Sixers

[Nowitness]

Next Pippen.

[Jailblazers7]

They need to stop babying Noel and let him play a back to back.

[Lebron23]

Good Summer league debut. and I really like his hairstyle.

[Meticode]

They need to stop babying Noel and let him play a back to back.
They're fine, if they're still doing it during pre-season then I'd be worried. They're just trying to pace him for the NBA games seeing how his knee will react to full activity.

[hawksdogsbraves]

I'm telling you guys, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is going to take a big step forward this year. He's a forgotten top 10 pick but with SVG coaching him up now he's going to make a splash.

[Aussie Dunker]

I'm telling you guys, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is going to take a big step forward this year. He's a forgotten top 10 pick but with SVG coaching him up now he's going to make a splash.

Clearly has been working his butt off in the off-season. He looks so calm and well conditioned out there. Making everything look smooth on offense, and his defense is so savvy for such a young player. Excited to see him develop...

[IGOTGAME]

They need to stop babying Noel and let him play a back to back.

ok Dr. Jailblazers7

[Jailblazers7]

ok Dr. Jailblazers7

Not trying to sound like I'm a medical expert but I think the guy would be best served by getting some play time, even if it's only for 15 minutes. I think the biggest risk for him right now is a lack of confidence in his movements and that might be reinforced by the coaching staff being excessively cautious. It's been 18 months and the typical recovery time is like 6-9 months. I think he can prob be treated like a healthy player now.

But hey, if he starts the season looking great then I can't complain.

[GOBB]

Yeah I don't get the resting him thing but whatever


I'm telling you guys, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is going to take a big step forward this year. He's a forgotten top 10 pick but with SVG coaching him up now he's going to make a splash.

Noel thread and you talk about that guy? Solid

[andremiller07]

Dude is going to be Larry Sanders 2.0 (more offensive game as well than Larry) when Larry was health and not fighting dudes in clubs. WOw super impressed should have been the #1 pick. Shattered he did not fall to the Kings @7.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Not playing vs Thunder. He alright heallth wise?? Him or Oladipo are gonna be the best players from that '13 class.

[Dr.J4ever]

Not playing vs Thunder. He alright heallth wise?? Him or Oladipo are gonna be the best players from that '13 class.

He's completely fine. The Sixers are not tanking Summer league or anything. They just want to take it easy with him and make extra sure he recovers completely.

He will play the rest of the Orlando SL and then Vegas, the pre-season, and 82 games. So I guess they are making the right decision here.

[AboutBuckets]

He's completely fine. The Sixers are not tanking Summer league or anything. They just want to take it easy with him and make extra sure he recovers completely.

He will play the rest of the Orlando SL and then Vegas, the pre-season, and 82 games. So I guess they are making the right decision here.

Lmao leave it to us to try that

[chocolatethunder]

Lmao leave it to us to try that
I wasn't aware that was even possible haha

[Dr.J4ever]

Another solid outing for Noel. Not flashy scoring, but very active defensively. Just 8 points,6 boards, 3 blocks, a steal in limited minutes, but he altered a bunch of shots out there.

Needless to day, Sixer fans should be very happy with the highway robbery from the New Orleans. We got Noel and Saric for Holiday, who wasn't really an All star.

Wow!:applause:

[chocolatethunder]

Another solid outing for Noel. Not flashy scoring, but very active defensively. Just 8 points,6 boards, 3 blocks, a steal in limited minutes, but he altered a bunch of shots out there.

Needless to day, Sixer fans should be very happy with the highway robbery from the New Orleans. We got Noel and Saric for Holiday, who wasn't really an All star.

Wow!:applause:
I never liked Holiday.

[Dr.J4ever]

I never liked Holiday.

I have to admit at one point I thought he could be a piece to a title team, but not the way he played in his last season or so. He just wasn't a very efficient PG. He's a nice player, and a decent guy so I wish him all the luck.

Hinkie really raped the Pelicans on that one. I have a feeling the Saric deal getting back a 1st round pick will be another feather in the cap of the Great Hinkie:lol :applause:

[Rubio2Gasol]

Why is he playing limited minutes? Isn't the recovery timetable like 6-8 months?

[Dr.J4ever]

Why is he playing limited minutes? Isn't the recovery timetable like 6-8 months?

I believe he played around 23 minutes if my memory serves me right. That's limited, but also because the Sixers needed to see the other players.

No need to rush Noel back to regular season form when it's not yet the regular season. The Sixers want to take it easy with him.

[AboutBuckets]

I believe he played around 23 minutes if my memory serves me right. That's limited, but also because the Sixers needed to see the other players.

No need to rush Noel back to regular season form when it's not yet the regular season. The Sixers want to take it easy with him.

He's also openly admitted that his conditioning isn't where he wants it to be and that it restricts the amount of court time he's able to fully exert himself for. Understandable; the only way to get into game shape is to play in games, which he hasn't done in quite some time

[DMAVS41]

Another solid outing for Noel. Not flashy scoring, but very active defensively. Just 8 points,6 boards, 3 blocks, a steal in limited minutes, but he altered a bunch of shots out there.

Needless to day, Sixer fans should be very happy with the highway robbery from the New Orleans. We got Noel and Saric for Holiday, who wasn't really an All star.

Wow!:applause:

It's one of the best deals ever. And you guys got back that first rounder you traded to the magic as well.

I still can't believe it went down like that. When I first heard the trade last year I thought it was the Pelicans receiving the first round pick along with Holiday.

Noel, Saric, and a first round pick for Holiday and his 11 million a year for 4 years...is absurdly good.

The Sixers have done an impressive job so far. You got the best player in each of the last two drafts in my opinion.

[GOBB]

DMAVS absolutely hates that trade for the Pelicans. :roll:


He's also openly admitted that his conditioning isn't where he wants it to be and that it restricts the amount of court time he's able to fully exert himself for. Understandable; the only way to get into game shape is to play in games, which he hasn't done in quite some time

Yeah he said he was sore all over after the first game. As a fan? I dont care, get out there. :bowdown:

[GOBB]

Noel 14 pts 9rbs 5blks, couple rebounding opportunities went in his hands and out. Almost as if he had butter fingers. Gotta start snagging the ball. Did a great job defensively. Offensively I think he should try shooting jumpers more than putting ball on the floor and attacking. Does a good job on FT line. :applause:

[AI09]

over or under 2 blocks per this season?

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I think he's a potential 2 bpg/2spg player down the line.

If Cavs don't land LeBron, they are going to be so salty about the Sixers. Noel-Embiid should have been their frontcourt.

[Dr.J4ever]

Noel 14 pts 9rbs 5blks, couple rebounding opportunities went in his hands and out. Almost as if he had butter fingers. Gotta start snagging the ball. Did a great job defensively. Offensively I think he should try shooting jumpers more than putting ball on the floor and attacking. Does a good job on FT line. :applause:

Could this be his regular stat line in the NBA regular season?... 14/9/5......
Not outlandish to think it could be. :applause:

[chocolatethunder]

Could this be his regular stat line in the NBA regular season?... 14/9/5......
Not outlandish to think it could be. :applause:
This year? No way. He's too light. Five what? Blocks? No way. I think 9ppg 6rpg and 2.5 blocks would be great. He really needs to add weight because he's gonna get tossed around like a rag doll in the league. Which is fine because he's young.

[Dr.J4ever]

This year? No way. He's too light. Five what? Blocks? No way. I think 9ppg 6rpg and 2.5 blocks would be great. He really needs to add weight because he's gonna get tossed around like a rag doll in the league. Which is fine because he's young.

I know you're being conservative and all, but c'mon it's possible. He will get a lot of playing time and the 76ers play a fast pace. 5 blocks might be high, but 12-14ppg is possible as well as 9rpg.

That would a great 1st year!

[AboutBuckets]

I know you're being conservative and all, but c'mon it's possible. He will get a lot of playing time and the 76ers play a fast pace. 5 blocks might be high, but 12-14ppg is possible as well as 9rpg.

That would a great 1st year!

I agree with ChocolateThunder. I don't think he has the mass to physically carve enough space out for him to get close to double digit rebounding, nor establish position to score consistently. However, as long as he's disruptive on the defensive end altering shots and disrupting passing lanes, everything else should fall into place with time

[chocolatethunder]

I know you're being conservative and all, but c'mon it's possible. He will get a lot of playing time and the 76ers play a fast pace. 5 blocks might be high, but 12-14ppg is possible as well as 9rpg.

That would a great 1st year!
It's actually not possible this year in any way. Summer league and the D league are a joke. There's no way he's going to put up better numbers in the NBA than in summer league. It will not happen. He needs to improve his size and rebounding. I think 9, 6 and 2.5 would be a great season.

[AboutBuckets]

It's actually not possible this year in any way. Summer league and the D league are a joke. There's no way he's going to put up better numbers in the NBA than in summer league. It will not happen. He needs to improve his size and rebounding. I think 9, 6 and 2.5 would be a great season.

Indeed. I'd piss myself in excitement if he averaged 2.5 bpg in his rookie season

[Dr.J4ever]

It's actually not possible this year in any way. Summer league and the D league are a joke. There's no way he's going to put up better numbers in the NBA than in summer league. It will not happen. He needs to improve his size and rebounding. I think 9, 6 and 2.5 would be a great season.

Of course it's a joke compared to the regular season, but it was mentioned by Rick Mahorn, I think, doing the color for the games that centers usually don't do so well in the SL. Know why? Lack of structure to the games as well as lack of PG play.

So Noel is scoring and impressing some with low caliber players around him. With an improved MCW, and the 76ers fast pace, don't you guys it's even slightly possible for him to average 14/9/2.5?

[chocolatethunder]

Of course it's a joke compared to the regular season, but it was mentioned by Rick Mahorn, I think, doing the color for the games that centers usually don't do so well in the SL. Know why? Lack of structure to the games as well as lack of PG play.

So Noel is scoring and impressing some with low caliber players around him. With an improved MCW, and the 76ers fast pace, don't you guys it's even slightly possible for him to average 14/9/2.5?
No

[hawksdogsbraves]

Of course it's a joke compared to the regular season, but it was mentioned by Rick Mahorn, I think, doing the color for the games that centers usually don't do so well in the SL. Know why? Lack of structure to the games as well as lack of PG play.

So Noel is scoring and impressing some with low caliber players around him. With an improved MCW, and the 76ers fast pace, don't you guys it's even slightly possible for him to average 14/9/2.5?

Absolutely not.

His body isn't ready for the NBA yet. A 9/6/2.5bpg season like these guys have said would be a great starting point. 14/9/2.5 would blow Tyson Chandler's DPOY season out of the water. It would be as good a statline as anything Joakim Noah has ever put up (minus the assists). Not gonna happen in year 1.

[Dr.J4ever]

No

Okay, nice and short:lol

We shall see.

[Dr.J4ever]

Absolutely not.

His body isn't ready for the NBA yet. A 9/6/2.5bpg season like these guys have said would be a great starting point. 14/9/2.5 would blow Tyson Chandler's DPOY season out of the water. It would be as good a statline as anything Joakim Noah has ever put up (minus the assists). Not gonna happen in year 1.

It's not all about stats all the time. Check out MCW's 16/6/6 or something last year. Not terribly impressed with it. Noel might do 12-14ppg and get 2.5 blocks and still not be as effective as Chandler or Noah.

[hawksdogsbraves]

It's not all about stats all the time. Check out MCW's 16/6/6 or something last year. Not terribly impressed with it. Noel might do 12-14ppg and get 2.5 blocks and still not be as effective as Chandler or Noah.

I just can't see him putting up over 10ppg next year. He doesn't have much of an offensive game at this point.

I doubt he'll be getting more than 30 or so mpg either, no need to put a ton of stress on him this season.

Anthony Davis put up 13/8/2 as a rookie, and his offensive game was waaaay more developed than Noel's.

[Jailblazers7]

No way he averages 14. To average 14 you either have to be very consistent or get some fairly explosive 25ish point games mixed in and I don't think Noel will do either. I bet he averages like 8-9 points, maybe double digits due to how good MCW is on the p'n'r.

I think there is a chance for like 8 rebounds and 3 blocks though. He is rangy and long so it's not out of the realm of possibility to get those numbers with the pace that the Sixers will likely play at, although I think the blocks would blow my mind a bit.

[Dr.J4ever]

I just can't see him putting up over 10ppg next year. He doesn't have much of an offensive game at this point.

I doubt he'll be getting more than 30 or so mpg either, no need to put a ton of stress on him this season.

Anthony Davis put up 13/8/2 as a rookie, and his offensive game was waaaay more developed than Noel's.

The Davis thing is reasonable. As I said, with the 76ers fast pace, 2 dunks in the break, one lob pass and dunk, and 2 fouls trying to score is 10 points. It may be an inflated number, but it's possible, playing on a weaker team.

But I won't belabor the point. We will know in due time.

[GimmeThat]

DeMarcus Cousin is underrated.

[chocolatethunder]

Okay, nice and short:lol

We shall see.
First you said 14,9,5 now you say 14,9,2.5. Look up how many centers averaged that last year and you'll have your answer. If you expect a 20 year old kid who is 6'11" and about 225 soaking wet to get those numbers as a rookie when he didn't even put them up in college, then you're fooling yourself. I'm a Sixer fan but I'm a realist too. You need to be more realistic.

[GOBB]

The key is how many minutes will he play this season? Will they monitor it? Will he have any setbacks physically? Will he be in foul trouble?

All factors that will play a role in his production. 9-6-2 is reasonable. Maybe 10 if he plays at least 30mpg. His pts will be put back attempts which won't be easy with his strength, ally oops, and being set up where defense collapses and he is cutting to the basket. He can't score anyway else at this point. He is quick and agile facing up but he has no finishing moves. He struggles with this in the SL, the NBA? Pfft

I think 2 blocks and 1 Stl per game is achievable.

[Dr.J4ever]

Nerlens Noel going for the NBA Title(Orlando Summer League version) today!:applause:

By the Way, Assistant Coach Lloyd Pierce has done a great job. He basically took a bunch of strangers and jelled them together in 2 weeks.

Casper Ware has played well too, and Ware making the team will depend, in part, with how the LBJ saga plays out.

[GOBB]

What time do they play

[Dr.J4ever]

What time do they play

12noon, I think.

Confirmed about to start

[Dr.J4ever]

Damn no noel

[Dr.J4ever]

Noel' s stat line of 29 minutes, 12 points(6-10), 6 rebounds, 4 bs against the Cavs was another good game for him.

He was stellar once again defensively with those blocked shots, altered shots, poked a couple of balls loose leading to fast breaks. Nice to see, but this was sort of expected.

What's surprising is his offense. Yes, it's summer league, but he has shown touch around the basket, he has shown some post up moves, and he can run the break. I predict Noel to average at least 10ppg this season, possibly more.

With the complete package he brings on the floor, including this surprising offense, ROY is not a far flung possibility, if he can somehow rebound the basketball which is the biggest question mark with him right now.

Will he get pushed around the paint?

[hawksdogsbraves]

Noel' s stat line of 29 minutes, 12 points(6-10), 6 rebounds, 4 bs against the Cavs was another good game for him.

He was stellar once again defensively with those blocked shots, altered shots, poked a couple of balls loose leading to fast breaks. Nice to see, but this was sort of expected.

What's surprising is his offense. Yes, it's summer league, but he has shown touch around the basket, he has shown some post up moves, and he can run the break. I predict Noel to average at least 10ppg this season, possibly more.

With the complete package he brings on the floor, including this surprising offense, ROY is not a far flung possibility, if he can somehow rebound the basketball which is the biggest question mark with him right now.

Will he get pushed around the paint?

I'd guess so. Most rookies do. It's just a matter of a 20 year old kid going up against fully grown men like Al Horford or Marcin Gortat.