Can't wait for Bosh to get exposed...

[JT123]

when he leaves the Heat. :oldlol: How does this fool think he is going to score without Lebron drawing all the attention of the defense? He has no moves! Plus he's an old man now, with no chance of getting better. Without Lebron giving him open looks all game long I shudder to think about where his career will end up. Will he go down in history as the next PJ Brown? :confusedshrug:

[HOoopCityJones]

when he leaves the Heat. :oldlol: How does this fool think he is going to score without Lebron drawing all the attention of the defense? He has no moves! Plus he's an old man now, with no chance of getting better. Without Lebron giving him open looks all game long I shudder to think about where his career will end up. Will he go down in history as the next PJ Brown? :confusedshrug:

Started watching Basketball in 2011 confirmed.

Bosh has always been an above average scorer, Lebron ball is what made him regress into a spot up shooter.

[bluechox2]

i dont know, 23 a night was an easy given pre lebron

[BallsOut]

when he leaves the Heat. :oldlol: How does this fool think he is going to score without Lebron drawing all the attention of the defense? He has no moves! Plus he's an old man now, with no chance of getting better. Without Lebron giving him open looks all game long I shudder to think about where his career will end up. Will he go down in history as the next PJ Brown? :confusedshrug:

Spoken like a bandwagon Lebron stan. You do realize that Bosh was the man that led the Toronto Raptors to the playoffs year after year putting up 20/10 before he was relegated to being a mere spot up shooter by Lebron ball? :oldlol:

[IncarceratedBob]

24/10 before LeBron

12/8 after.

[livinglegend]

Spoken like a bandwagon Lebron stan. You do realize that Bosh was the man that led the Toronto Raptors to the playoffs year after year putting up 20/10 before he was relegated to being a mere spot up shooter by Lebron ball? :oldlol:

past tense

[Poetry]

He was always a good scorer and now he's a better defender. He'll do fine, should he decide to walk.

He's only 30. A guy with his skill set and size will age gracefully in the NBA.

[JT123]

Started watching Basketball in 2011 confirmed.

Bosh has always been an above average scorer, Lebron ball is what made him regress into a spot up shooter.
As I said in my original post, Bosh has aged and is no where near as quick as he was in his Toronto days. :rolleyes: And stop with that "Lebron ball" excuse. Even when Lebron sits out Bosh plays the exact same way, on the perimeter because he's too afraid of taking contact. :lol

[Milbuck]

Dude puts up 23/10/3/1/1 on 58% TS over 5 seasons before the decision..



Can't score without Bron doe :oldlol:

[JT123]

Spoken like a bandwagon Lebron stan. You do realize that Bosh was the man that led the Toronto Raptors to the playoffs year after year putting up 20/10 before he was relegated to being a mere spot up shooter by Lebron ball? :oldlol:
3 playoff wins in 7 years, in the EAST! :applause: :roll:

[r0drig0lac]

as he is an old man? the guy is 30 years old

[LBJ4MVP23]

Bosh is an above average PF for sure, but I dont think he was ever truly elite. Look at all the players in history who put up amazing stats on bad teams and that is where Bosh fits.

I mean AI, who put up great stats on shit teams was able to lead the team to the finals and even got a win vs the stacked Lakers. Bosh was never a guy that the coaching staff stayed up all night game planning for just how in the hell are they going to slow him down.

He was a very good player and still is, but was never great. However if the staff and lebron would take the sand out of their ******s and make Bosh the number 2 focal point on the team he would be averaging 20 points quite easily and could build chemistry with LBJ because he actually plays.

LBJ and Bosh along with the rest of the team get into a rhythm, then Wade comes back. They start adjusting to him again, then he sits for 10 games.. rinse and repeat. He is a destroyer of chemistry with this on-off bs and should be paid as a third option with upside. I would never pay Wade more than 8 mil a year when he only plays 60 games and is still spent by the time the playoffs go deep.

[Poetry]

Bosh is an above average PF for sure, but I dont think he was ever truly elite.

His defense has gotten much better. He's actually better balanced than he was in Toronto.

His range has improved too, but that's something I'm not too crazy about.

[Lebron23]

His defense has gotten much better. He's actually better balanced than he was in Toronto.

His range has improved too, but that's something I'm not too crazy about.


The guy has zero playoffs wins in Toronto. He was like a better rebounding version of Shariff Abdur Rahim. He greatly benefited when the Heat won back to back titles despite his above average performance in the finals. Even prime Horace Grant puts up much better number than him in his peak in the playoffs and finals. I thought Bosh was gonna surpass Wade as the heat's 2nd best player, but he had a disappointing performance in last year's finals.

[Milbuck]

Player A: 24.0 / 10.8 / 2.4 / 0.6 / 1.0 --- 59% TS

Player B: 23.1 / 11.0 / 2.6 / 0.9 / 1.0 --- 51% TS


One has a case as the best PF in the game today, and the other was "never elite".

[Lebron23]

Player A: 24.0 / 10.8 / 2.4 / 0.6 / 1.0 --- 59% TS

Player B: 23.1 / 11.0 / 2.6 / 0.9 / 1.0 --- 51% TS


One has a case as the best PF in the game today, and the other was "never elite".

How many playoffs wins??

[Le Shaqtus]

Looks like OP discovered basketball in 2011.

[DMAVS41]

Meh...I don't even like Bosh much, but in a different role where he got more shots....

He'd be a 22/8/3 57% TS player.

He's a nice solid all star type player. He's just not a superstar (never was) and not an all nba type performer in my opinion.

Depending on the team...he might be good enough to be the 2nd best player on a title winning team...but I doubt it in any realistic way.

[edrick]

24/10 before LeBron

12/8 after.

That production managed 3 playoff game wins, before joining the Heat. In the "pathetic" East, no less.

[Smook A.]

Where in the world were you when Bosh was killing it on the Raps?

He was a 20/10 guy every game.

His last season in Toronto, he put up 24 and 11.

[Legends66NBA7]

Player A: 24.0 / 10.8 / 2.4 / 0.6 / 1.0 --- 59% TS

Player B: 23.1 / 11.0 / 2.6 / 0.9 / 1.0 --- 51% TS


One has a case as the best PF in the game today, and the other was "never elite".

One also played better defense that season and lead a team to the playoffs in one of the deepest conferences in NBA history and a series win, while also having his better games against the best competition that year, and the other played the worst defense of his prime and failed to make the playoffs in a weaker conference, while also having better games against weaker conference that year.

Neither were really elite in terms of players. There are only a few that are elite in the game. Those are reserved for guy like Durant and James. If it's position that's a whole different topic. Were player A and B every on true elite PF status like a Duncan, Garnett, and Nowitzki of their era ?

[RoTM]

People said Amare would get exposed when he left Phoenix without Nash and then he put up 25 before he got injured.

[Fudge]

OP getting his shit kicked in :oldlol:

[SpecialQue]

The only one getting exposed here is OP.

[Im so nba'd out]

when he leaves the Heat. :oldlol: How does this fool think he is going to score without Lebron drawing all the attention of the defense? He has no moves! Plus he's an old man now, with no chance of getting better. Without Lebron giving him open looks all game long I shudder to think about where his career will end up. Will he go down in history as the next PJ Brown? :confusedshrug:
Bosh is a lot better than you give him credit for he just plays like this because he wants to win so bad.He sacrifices his game cause he respects how good lebron is

[STATUTORY]

don't be harsh, OP is just a typical bran fan.

[magnax1]

Yeah. He fared much worse in toronto...

[Just2McFly]

Player A: 24.0 / 10.8 / 2.4 / 0.6 / 1.0 --- 59% TS

Player B: 23.1 / 11.0 / 2.6 / 0.9 / 1.0 --- 51% TS


One has a case as the best PF in the game today, and the other was "never elite".
http://nowweknowem.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/800px-morton_ether_1846-2.jpg

[STATUTORY]

One also played better defense that season and lead a team to the playoffs in one of the deepest conferences in NBA history and a series win, while also having his better games against the best competition that year, and the other played the worst defense of his prime and failed to make the playoffs in a weaker conference, while also having better games against weaker conference that year.

Neither were really elite in terms of players. There are only a few that are elite in the game. Those are reserved for guy like Durant and James. If it's position that's a whole different topic. Were player A and B every on true elite PF status like a Duncan, Garnett, and Nowitzki of their era ?

:facepalm @ this agenda pushing/hating on bosh cause he left your city cretin

[navy]

Bosh is soft, but he is a good scorer. He wont be exposed per say but he isnt leading you to any championships as a first or maybe even second option.

[j3lademaster]

How many playoffs wins??How many are you supposed to win with Calderon trying to cover pg's and Bargs anchoring your defense?

[Soundwave]

3 playoff wins in 7 years, in the EAST! :applause: :roll:

Blame the Raptors front office for not really ever building a good team around him, particularily with some botched drafts.

They could have taken Aldridge over Bargnani ... they blew the no.1 pick there.

And they could have taken Danny Granger over Joey Graham.

That probably would've been a solid playoff team in the East for many years.

[Legends66NBA7]

:facepalm @ this agenda pushing/hating on bosh cause he left your city cretin

Shut the **** up, moron.

A dumbass like yourself should be the last person talking about anybody having an agenda on here. What I said was context, something your puny little brain can't comprehend.

And I've been wanting him gone since 2008 when he was still on the team. He should have been traded years ago before he left for free agency. A player like him isn't leading shit to a title as the first option and is incapable of leading any squad to the playoffs consistently in a weaker conference. Get it through your ****ing head already.

I'm sure you don't even care about Bosh, because it always comes back to LeBron with your garbage ass agenda.

[Legends66NBA7]

How many are you supposed to win with Calderon trying to cover pg's and Bargs anchoring your defense?

Calderon outplayed Bosh in 2 of those 3 wins in 7 years. Bargnani was never the anchor of the defense, he didn't even consistently start for that team.

Bosh's play and defense was bad in those playoffs too and only had 1 great game out of 13.

[STATUTORY]

Shut the **** up, moron.

A dumbass like yourself should be the last person talking about anybody having an agenda on here. What I said was context, something your puny little brain can't comprehend.

And I've been wanting him gone since 2008 when he was still on the team. He should have been traded years ago before he left for free agency. A player like him isn't leading shit to a title as the first option and is incapable of leading any squad to the playoffs consistently in a weaker conference. Get it through your ****ing head already.

I'm sure you don't even care about Bosh, because it always comes back to LeBron with your garbage ass agenda.

you list Raptor's playoff familiars and attribute that entirely to Chris Bosh without accounting for his complete and utter shit supporting cast and you dare bring up context?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm you are a clown

[Legends66NBA7]

you list Raptor's playoff familiars and attribute that entirely to Chris Bosh without accounting for his complete and utter shit supporting cast and you dare bring up context?

Um, he's the best player on the team who played below is production or was down right garbage in 10 out of 13 games playoff games. He was outplayed in 3 of those wins by his own supporting cast that you call shit, you pathetic moron.

You didn't want any of those games, so stop talking about bringing up context. You have massive agenda trying use to Bosh as a smoke screen in your posts. Just shut the **** up already when it comes to Bosh.


you are a clown

And you're a little bitch.

[Soundwave]

Colangelo screwed the Raptors big time by buying into the "Bargnani is the next Dirk" kool-aid.

Had they also taken Granger over Graham, their lineup probably would've been something like

C - Aldridge
PF- Bosh
SF - Granger
SG - UFA addition
PG - TJ Ford

Would've done some damage in the East for sure I think.

[Legends66NBA7]

Colangelo screwed the Raptors big time by buying into the "Bargnani is the next Dirk" kool-aid.

Had they also taken Granger over Graham, their lineup probably would've been something like

C - Aldridge
PF- Bosh
SF - Granger
SG - UFA addition
PG - TJ Ford

Would've done some damage in the East for sure I think.

I do agree with this.

[STATUTORY]

Um, he's the best player on the team who played below is production or was down right garbage in 10 out of 13 games playoff games. He was outplayed in 3 of those wins by his own supporting cast that you call shit, you pathetic moron.

You didn't want any of those games, so stop talking about bringing up context. You have massive agenda trying use to Bosh as a smoke screen in your posts. Just shut the **** up already when it comes to Bosh.



And you're a little bitch.

Bosh averaged 24/9/4 in 2008 playoffs but he was outplayed by Anthony Parker right? :facepalm

what do you call a supporting cast of Anthony Parker, Rasho, Calderon, Bargagni, TJ Ford if not shit?

outside bosh they might had one of the worst roster even in the depleted eastern conference.

step outside of the basement and get some perspective

by any measure Bosh is a better player than Gasol ever was

[JT123]

by any measure Bosh is a better player than Gasol ever was
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

Bosh averaged 24/9/4 in 2008 playoffs but he was outplayed by Anthony Parker right?

what do you call a supporting cast of Anthony Parker, Rasho, Calderon, Bargagni, TJ Ford if not shit?

It's fascinating to know that you can't read. I said the 3 wins that everyone keeps bringing up.

Care to break down individual game from 2007 and 2008 ? I'm sure you won't, nor will care.

I also like how you bring up Bosh's stats in 08 and don't for 07. Cute deflection.


outside bosh they might had one of the worst roster even in the depleted eastern conference.

Except for the fact they didn't. What ruined it was injuries and incompetent management later on. That's one of times I'll side with Bosh.


step outside of the basement and get some perspective

I'm chilling outside the patio. Save your advice for yourself or someone who cares, kid.


by any measure Bosh is a better player than Gasol ever was

And further agenda brought up by this clown.

:oldlol:

You're a sad human being.

[STATUTORY]

It's fascinating to know that you can't read. I said the 3 wins that everyone keeps bringing up.

Care to break down individual game from 2007 and 2008 ? I'm sure you won't, nor will care.

I also like how you bring up Bosh's stats in 08 and don't for 07. Cute deflection.



Except for the fact they didn't. What ruined it was injuries and incompetent management later on. That's one of times I'll side with Bosh.



I'm chilling outside the patio. Save your advice for yourself or someone who cares, kid.



And further agenda brought up by this clown.

:oldlol:

You're a sad human being.

what's the point in arguing with a zealot like you? it's clear to everyone that Bosh had a shit supporting cast. Your willingness to indict him for lack of team playoff success says all we need about your lack of credibility.

Outside of Bosh, Raptors had absolutely no talent.

Compare their roster to Knicks roster that year, a team that came second to last in the conference:

Jamal Crawford
David Lee
Nate Robinson
Zach Randolph
Wilson Chandler
Quentin Richardson

and you were expecting playoff wins from Anthony Parker and Rasho

[STATUTORY]

subtracting Bosh while adding Derozan, Barbosa, Kleiza, Bayless, Amir Johnson,resulted in 18 loss differential. taking Raptors from playoff team to a lottery team

but it was Bosh's fault :roll:

[Derka]

OP getting his shit kicked in :oldlol:

This.

Anyone going along with the OPs line of thinking is an abject failure.

[Legends66NBA7]

what's the point in arguing with a zealot like you?

So why do you keep responding ?


it's clear to everyone that Bosh had a shit supporting cast.

Cool. That shit supporting cast had a player outplay Bosh in 3 of the wins in those 7 years.



Your willingness to indict him for lack of team playoff success says all we need about your lack of credibility.

I don't give anybody a break if their individual game suffers. Today's fans have a bunch of ass kissers for the most part to their favourite player or star player on their home team. Where I'm from, if you **** up, you **** up.

If Vince Carter played like shit, I call him out for it and blast him. If Chris Bosh played like shit, I call him out and blast him. If DeMar DeRozan and Kyle Lowry played like shit this year, I call them out and I blast both of them.


Outside of Bosh, Raptors had absolutely no talent.

Compare their roster to Knicks roster that year, a team that came second to last in the conference:

Jamal Crawford
David Lee
Nate Robinson
Zach Randolph
Wilson Chandler
Quentin Richardson

You realize this just tells me talent alone doesn't equal wins, right ? Not to mention, that team had a bunch of knuckle heads.

Z-Bo wasn't the guy you see in Memphis. Crawford was still a chucker who didn't have a proper role. Nate was another chucker. Z-Bo and Nate both had problems with the coaching staff that year too. Richardson was another chucker and he was god awful at it that year.

On top of that, no defense (ranked 29th in the league; best defender was either Z-Bo or Chandler) and it was coached by Isiah Thomas. You really think that team was going to be potent with all toxic chemistry ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaVa6NHwUUg

"You hear that Boston ?"

:oldlol:


and you were expecting playoff wins from Anthony Parker and Rasho

I expect the team to win game. You know it's a team game, right ? It just so happens the "shit supporting cast" had players that outplayed the star player in wins.

[JT123]

This.

Anyone going along with the OPs line of thinking is an abject failure.
You're going to owe me a big apology next season when Bosh is on his new team and struggling to average 12 points a game on 43%. I will forgive you though, for you know not what you do.

[Derka]

You're going to owe me a big apology next season when Bosh is on his new team and struggling to average 12 points a game on 43%. I will forgive you though, for you know not what you do.

Literally no one cares what you think :lol

[JT123]

subtracting Bosh while adding Derozan, Barbosa, Kleiza, Bayless, Amir Johnson,resulted in 18 loss differential. taking Raptors from playoff team to a lottery team

but it was Bosh's fault :roll:
The Raptors made the playoffs in Bosh's last season there? :wtf:

[Legends66NBA7]

subtracting Bosh while adding Derozan, Barbosa, Kleiza, Bayless, Amir Johnson,resulted in 18 loss differential. taking Raptors from playoff team to a lottery team

They missed the playoffs the 2 years before that. I know you didn't even know of the Raptors existence pre-2010, but try to keep up.

Raptors were barely in playoff contention with Bosh for all but 2 seasons and 2007 was considered one of the weakest years in the conference.

[JT123]

Literally no one cares what you think :lol
That's why you clicked on my thread and responded to me just now, cause you don't care what I think? :roll: :roll: :roll:
I've got you on strings right now, son. :pimp:

[PickernRoller]

Another LeTard with 0 knowledge of basketball. In other news, water is wet. :lol

[Sarcastic]

In 2010 Bosh was easily considered an elite player, and teams were lining up to throw him max deals.

Now 4 years later, he has 2 rings, but he's gotten a fck ton of the blame for when the Heat lose, and LeBron stans think he is worth $10-12 million per year. If he's been exposed, it's only because of his time with the Heat.

[Derka]

That's why you clicked on my thread and responded to me just now, cause you don't care what I think? :roll: :roll: :roll:
I've got you on strings right now, son. :pimp:

You keep thinking that :lol

[longtime lurker]

Blame the Raptors front office for not really ever building a good team around him, particularily with some botched drafts.

They could have taken Aldridge over Bargnani ... they blew the no.1 pick there.

And they could have taken Danny Granger over Joey Graham.

That probably would've been a solid playoff team in the East for many years.

Don't forget trading Hibbert for JO :facepalm

And the world's biggest offense drafting Rafael Arujuo over Andre Iguodala :facepalm :facepalm

Can't really blame Bosh for not doing more with the Raptors his starting center was Bargani.....

[Soundwave]

Don't forget trading Hibbert for JO :facepalm

And the world's biggest offense drafting Rafael Arujuo over Andre Iguodala :facepalm :facepalm

Can't really blame Bosh for not doing more with the Raptors his starting center was Bargani.....

Not just the starting center, Bargnani was supposed to be the no.2 star for Bosh to play with :lol

Raptors bombed several drafts in a row. They could have had a very solid team.

[longtime lurker]

Not just the starting center, Bargnani was supposed to be the no.2 star for Bosh to play with :lol

Raptors bombed several drafts in a row. They could have had a very solid team.

Bosh had his problems but he's shown he can be a difference maker. As a number 2 option this guy would absolutely kill it. As much as I hate the Rockets and want to see them fail miserably they'd be a beast of a team if he signed there.

[yeaaaman]

The guy has zero playoffs wins in Toronto. He was like a better rebounding version of Shariff Abdur Rahim. He greatly benefited when the Heat won back to back titles despite his above average performance in the finals. Even prime Horace Grant puts up much better number than him in his peak in the playoffs and finals. I thought Bosh was gonna surpass Wade as the heat's 2nd best player, but he had a disappointing performance in last year's finals.

He was more than a better rebounding version of Abdur Rahim. How old are you anyways?

[Lebron23]

He was more than a better rebounding version of Abdur Rahim. How old are you anyways?


Abdur Rahim was also a former NBA all star just like Chris Bosh. He was also a 23/10 guy in Vancouver against the elite western front court every night, and with the hawks.

Both of them never won a playoffs series as the numero uno scoring option of their respective teams.

I hate Bosh because of his back to back disappointing performances in the NBA Finals. The guy is asking for a max contract, but he played like a chump in the finals.

[GimmeThat]

in what year did Chris Bosh ever suffered an injury that seemed to have a long-lasting effect?

[GimmeThat]

I hate Bosh because of his back to back disappointing performances in the NBA Finals. The guy is asking for a max contract, but he played like a chump in the finals.




you know the amount of players got a max based off of advancing past the 2nd round?

[ArbitraryWater]

So he prefers the max on another team rather than taking a paycut.....


Like I said, this guy wants a max for hitting one 3 a game, get out-rebounded by the backup center in half the minutes and get abused in the post....

Aha. Running around the perimeter hitting jumpers #KyleKorverLife

Gtfoh Bosh... He can be first option elsewhere, he'll have some big games, but ultimately average around 18/8 on 46%... Like a Bosh

[ArbitraryWater]

Player A: 24.0 / 10.8 / 2.4 / 0.6 / 1.0 --- 59% TS

Player B: 23.1 / 11.0 / 2.6 / 0.9 / 1.0 --- 51% TS


One has a case as the best PF in the game today, and the other was "never elite".

Stats on teams that don't compete should be taken with a grain of salt...

Not kidding. Lot of players can put up big stats on teams that don't go anywhere.

Let's see him in Houston or Chicago or New York then...

[edrick]

Stats on teams that don't compete should be taken with a grain of salt...

Not kidding. Lot of players can put up big stats on teams that don't go anywhere.

Let's see him in Houston or Chicago or New York then...

Exactly. People are acting like Bosh was contending all of the years he was in Toronto, when the reality is that he won 3 playoff games total during those years. Putting up big numbers on a team with no hope of making it out of the first round in the East, great job. The haters that quickly point out Bosh's stats in Toronto, are the same people that call Lebron's great playoff runs in Cleveland, empty stats. :rolleyes:

[dr.hee]

Stats on teams that don't compete should be taken with a grain of salt...

Not kidding. Lot of players can put up big stats on teams that don't go anywhere.

Let's see him in Houston or Chicago or New York then...

:roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

Exactly. People are acting like Bosh was contending all of the years he was in Toronto, when the reality is that he won 3 playoff games total during those years. Putting up big numbers on a team with no hope of making it out of the first round in the East, great job. The haters that quickly point out Bosh's stats in Toronto, are the same people that call Lebron's great playoff runs in Cleveland, empty stats. :rolleyes:

Yup...

Derrick Coleman was putting up 20 & 10 for about the first 5 seasons of his career...

He either missed out on the playoffs or lost in the 1st round on teams that went 26-56, 40-42, 43-39, 45-37, 30-52... what earned him one sole all-star game in total. On the 45-37 team.

Nobody ever called him a star... Why? Because he wasn't one, like Chris Bosh.

It's stats on teams that don't contend and most of the time don't even make the playoffs.... Lots of players can put up stats on garbage teams, that ultimately don't go anywhere.

[coin24]

Stats on teams that don't compete should be taken with a grain of salt...

Not kidding. Lot of players can put up big stats on teams that don't go anywhere.

Let's see him in Houston or Chicago or New York then...


NY?:roll: :roll:

[Doctor Rivers]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AQ_6BinVu7U/U6r34rsecVI/AAAAAAAApxA/IikEZwkFEIA/w600-h418-no/Bq5nYLEIYAAZk4t.jpg

[GimmeThat]

Gtfoh Bosh... He can be first option elsewhere, he'll have some big games, but ultimately average around 18/8 on 46%... Like a Bosh

If your team is in the position to over pay a player so you may be able to contend, would you do it?

this formula might not get you more than 1 ring.

but you actually get to tell others you had an NBA championship team.



would you do it.



90mil/4 years for 1 ring

over your whole pay roll over the next 4 years and no championship.

[ArbitraryWater]

Erase NY then.... I'm just saying, Melo/Bosh in the East will make the playoffs, but I doubt he's putting up TWENTY FOUR N 11 DAWG!!!! More like 17/7... something not impressive.

[GimmeThat]

Yup...

Derrick Coleman was putting up 20 & 10 for about the first 5 seasons of his career...

He either missed out on the playoffs or lost in the 1st round on teams that went 26-56, 40-42, 43-39, 45-37, 30-52... what earned him one sole all-star game in total. On the 45-37 team.

Nobody ever called him a star... Why? Because he wasn't one, like Chris Bosh.

It's stats on teams that don't contend and most of the time don't even make the playoffs.... Lots of players can put up stats on garbage teams, that ultimately don't go anywhere.


did people used to argue that Coleman may had been a top 5 PF in the league or top 15-20 player in the league when he put up those numbers though?

has people ever considered Coleman as a chucker?
has anyone ever considered Bosh as a chucker?

[GimmeThat]

Erase NY then.... I'm just saying, Melo/Bosh in the East will make the playoffs, but I doubt he's putting up TWENTY FOUR N 11 DAWG!!!! More like 17/7... something not impressive.

he's putting up 24/11 with the Magic (minus) Aaron Gordon

okay, maybe like 19/9.8

[ArbitraryWater]

did people used to argue that Coleman may had been a top 5 PF in the league or top 15-20 player in the league when he put up those numbers though?

has people ever considered Coleman as a chucker?
has anyone ever considered Bosh as a chucker?

No, Coleman has never been argued a top 5 PF or top 15-20 player :oldlol:

Made 2 all-nba 3rd teams though :applause:

This has nothing to do with chucking lol

[GimmeThat]

No, Coleman has never been argued a top 5 PF or top 15-20 player :oldlol:

Made 2 all-nba 3rd teams though :applause:

This has nothing to do with chucking lol


If Love wasn't putting up 26 on those Coleman efficiency

boy would he be thrown under the bus for the top PF in the league conversation

[Phenith]

Funny thing is, he could be the one piece the Raptors are missing atm.

[Flash31]

Damn,And here I thought Heat Haters were the most ignorant,stupid
posters but it's clear as day it's LeBron Stans.

Just what would LeBron put up as the third,sometimes 4th option?
We saw in 2011 what he put up as a 1b,2nd option

so 3rd,4th option taking 13 fga a game
Under than what he did in 2011 Finals

So 14-16,5-6,5-6
Does that look like a max player?

I mean 17,8,8 clearly isn't max

Only when Wade,Bosh gave up being 1st option at all did LeBrons stats remain at the top.
Bosh did have 0 points in Game 7 2013 Finals but he ONLY had 5 Shots,
Then in these Finals there were multiple games where he had less than 10 fga,one of them 4/4
which doesn't matter if he's 100% that's still
8-12 pts max.

Bosh's stats have been the most affected on the Heat bc he had to change his game the most and give up the most touches,fga,and is the 3rd sometimes 4th option.And instead of Tor where he plays closer to the Basket for rebounds,in the post,he's playing away from the basket and is expected to run back on defense instead of going for the rebound.

From 19 fga to 13 makes a big difference
Bosh is shooting for the Heat better than he was in Tor but his shot attempts and touches have went down.

There's no q about it,if Bosh was paired with a legit c and could play his game hed put up 24-26,10 every night.
On the Heat he's expected to play C and pull people away from the basket and switch on every pick n roll and cover.
With a Great C,Bosh can play his natural game and flourish.

Bosh on Spurs,Rockets,Detroit,Chicago,Clippers,Kings
would dominate.