aaron gordon looked pretty horrible

[JohnMax]

payton also looked completely terrible. even worse than gordon. his handles for a pg were very loose and very sloppy. he could not handle a double team from a pick and roll. every time a high pick and roll was set, it was easy to trap him up top and force a turnover. guy was awful lol. hennigan made some bad picks.

[Milbuck]

Didn't get to watch the game, how did Gordon look? Payton?

[Meticode]

4 months until the season.

[flipogb]

the block he made near the end of the game was amazing but other than that he kind of sucked

[navy]

Summer league.

[HylianNightmare]

Yea i think today's game was a solid indicator of how these guys will perform this season. Total busts

[outbreak]

I think one summer league game is totally enough to judge an 18 year olds entire career :facepalm

Payton and Gordon both need time to develop but their rookies on a team that isn't looking to content yet.

[D-Rose]

Summer league.
This. It doesn't matter. One bit.

Marc Stein tweeted how he remembered Greg Ostertag dominating Tim Duncan in TD's first summer league. :roll:

[Ca$H]

Gordon is a gay Shawn Marion at best.

[Jameerthefear]

Yea i think today's game was a solid indicator of how these guys will perform this season. Total busts
:facepalm
hylian. look up how smart did. how napier did. almost every rookie was awful. payton looked so nervous he was gonna throw up. he's very timid. he just needs to get used to it. gordon will get better too.
it's a ****ing summer league game

[Jameerthefear]

napier was 3-15 and had 8 turnovers
smart was 2-8 but had a lot of steals

[NugzFan]

:facepalm
hylian. look up how smart did. how napier did. almost every rookie was awful. payton looked so nervous he was gonna throw up. he's very timid. he just needs to get used to it. gordon will get better too.
it's a ****ing summer league game

Remember this when a magic player has a good summer league game.

I don't wanna hear a word outta your biased ass.

[Jameerthefear]

Remember this when a magic player has a good summer league game.

I don't wanna hear a word outta your biased ass.
oladipo was the best SL player last year and look where he is now :confusedshrug:

[D-Rose]

oladipo was the best SL player last year and look where he is now :confusedshrug:
Dude it seriously doesn't matter.

SL's only value is to get players on the court with other NBA/D-League players. Good performances hold minimal value. Just go out there and don't be an idiot or get injured.

[outbreak]

Dude it seriously doesn't matter.

SL's only value is to get players on the court with other NBA/D-League players. Good performances hold minimal value. Just go out there and don't be an idiot or get injured.

it's more for seeing flashes of what players can do rather than looking at their whole game

[HylianNightmare]

:facepalm
hylian. look up how smart did. how napier did. almost every rookie was awful. payton looked so nervous he was gonna throw up. he's very timid. he just needs to get used to it. gordon will get better too.
it's a ****ing summer league game
My dude i was being sarcastic. op is a fool for taking anything away from a summer league game. Much less the first of their careers

[Kblaze8855]

You should have been here for Lebrons summer league games.

People literally predicted he would be out of the NBa within 3 seasons. A dude named KingofVA. Melo fan I remember hating on Lebron around that time.

[Jameerthefear]

My dude i was being sarcastic. op is a fool for taking anything away from a summer league game. Much less the first of their careers
it's okay :) i am just really nervous about this whole thing

[dubeta]

Gordon needs to finally figure out if he's a 3 or a 4

[outbreak]

it's okay :) i am just really nervous about this whole thing
To be honest I don't expect Gordon to do much more than show some highlight dunks and some flashes of good defence this season. He is the youngest kid in this draft class isn't he? It's going to be a couple of seasons at least before Gordon or Payton develop into quality NBA players.

[Jameerthefear]

Anyone else notice Dipo's shot looks smoother?

[outbreak]

Anyone else notice Dipo's shot looks smoother?
yeah i'm waiting to see more games before I get too happy though.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Its summer league dog.

Nic Batum played horrible during Blazers summer league as a rook, was possibly going to be sent back over to France, and now look at him.

Also Qyntel Woods was summer leage MVP for the Blazers, your like "who" -yeah thats my point

Aaron Gordon should develop into a solid pro, but SL is not a good indicator of future NBA success

[LALakerFan4Life]

Aaron can improve. He could turn heads when the season starts. Just look at Tim Duncan. If people didn't know, Duncan sucked so bad in the entire summer league. Look how he turned out.

[mattvNJ]

Aaron can improve. He could turn heads when the season starts. Just look at Tim Duncan. If people didn't know, Duncan sucked so bad in the entire summer league. Look how he turned out.

Sucked so bad?
Tim Duncan's Summer League 1997:


Duncan 16 pts/8 of 13 FG/10 rbs/3 ast/5 blocks/31 minutes vs dallas


Duncan 13 points/4 of 9 FG/6 rebs/5 ast/1 block/29 minutes vs seattle


Duncan 12 points/5 of 9 FG/7 rebs/3 asts/5 blocks/26 minutes vs portland

Duncan 14 points/6 of 10 FG/8 rebs/3 assists/2 blocks vs Utah


I hardly consider that horrible. Good shooting %, blocks all over the place, decent board rate, and solid assists for a pf. Aaron gordon wont sniff how Tim Duncan ended up, i think hell be a good defender. Like a REAL-Lite marion.

[irondarts]

MCW and Trey Burke were awful in Summer League last year. And they both had very good rookie seasons.

It doesn't mean anything. Although I will say that Gordon looked a bit lost out there and was seriously careless with the ball.

[Done_And_Done]

it's more for seeing flashes of what players can do rather than looking at their whole game

I like this subtle hypothesis. You don't ever wanna put too much stock in these summer league games. Especially when these rooks are lacing them up alongside vets and youngens who are fighting tooth and nail to get noticed. You'll often see a bunch of unknowns hoisting up shots to get theirs.

[magnax1]

Nobody should be surprised if Payton sucks.

[Legends66NBA7]

Summer League MVP's

Randy Foye (2006)
Nate Robinson (2007)
Jerryd Bayless (2008)
Blake Griffin (2009)
John Wall (2010)
N/A (2011) - NBA Lockout cancelled summer league
Damian Lillard/Josh Selby (2012)
Jonas Valančiūnas (2013)


For some reason, I could have sworn Rodney Stuckey was MVP one season too.

[Jameerthefear]

Nobody should be surprised if Payton sucks.
what

[KNOW1EDGE]

Nobody should be surprised if Payton sucks.

Agreed. He looked really shaky today, and he is just so weak with the ball. Seems like a good kid tho so I'll root for him

[RoundMoundOfReb]

It's not that Summer League doesn't mean anything it's that it doesn't mean everything.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

You should have been here for Lebrons summer league games.

People literally predicted he would be out of the NBa within 3 seasons. A dude named KingofVA. Melo fan I remember hating on Lebron around that time.
:biggums:

Looking at his stats from summer league they don't even look that bad.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Summer League MVP's

Randy Foye (2006)
Nate Robinson (2007)
Jerryd Bayless (2008)
Blake Griffin (2009)
John Wall (2010)
N/A (2011) - NBA Lockout cancelled summer league
Damian Lillard/Josh Selby (2012)
Jonas Valančiūnas (2013)


For some reason, I could have sworn Rodney Stuckey was MVP one season too.


Actually pretty good list. Almost all of those players are at least solid in the NBA.

[magnax1]

what
Sorry Jam. Quit being a massive homer and do my algebra.

[dreamwarrior]

Did you not see that dunk? Shades of Blake Griffin

[Legends66NBA7]

Actually pretty good list. Almost all of those players are at least solid in the NBA.

Yup. It's an okay moderator, just get the rookies/sophomores prepared for the season.

Josh Sellby's the only one who wasn't consistent and is out of the league.

[coin24]

oladipo was the best SL player last year and look where he is now :confusedshrug:

A scrub on a loser team:confusedshrug:

[Dengness9]

Its summer league dog.

Nic Batum played horrible during Blazers summer league as a rook, was possibly going to be sent back over to France, and now look at him.

Also Qyntel Woods was summer leage MVP for the Blazers, your like "who" -yeah thats my point

Aaron Gordon should develop into a solid pro, but SL is not a good indicator of future NBA success


I remember Woods..... He was a Community College baller!

NBAdraft.net was going hard even back then:lol

[Dengness9]

I remember I was on a vacation NYC when Rose played his first summer league game.

I watched it and thought man, he didn't look that good. But he also had those FLASHES other posters talk about.

Dudes are nervous and eventually calm down and start playing their games.

[veilside23]

first game and we are already judging them? trey burke didnt have a good summer league at all. gordon is a good defender he will only get better. on the offense he will be like a shawn marion with better creativity

[GimmeThat]

well, if he post up 8/5 in the regular season, the Magics are screwed.


nah, they've got another decent big who can mentor him.

[BoutPractice]

Derrick Rose, too, if I remember correctly, was pretty horrible in his first summer league game, while Mario Chalmers was an instant performer.