Prime Kobe vs James Harden

[dubeta]

Whats the difference?

[Kvnzhangyay]

l o l

[lilteapot]

Kobe could play D and score better and didn't flop in every single game and wasn't the most overrated SG in the league

[STATUTORY]

Colby could score outside of free throws and three pointers

[The Choken One]

Better comparison would be prime Wade vs Harden.

You could actually make some valid points with that.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The red thread

[Milbuck]

:biggums:

Better comparison would be prime Wade vs Harden.

You could actually make some valid points with that.
:biggums: Let me hear these valid points. What case does James Harden have over prime Wade? Prime Wade shits on Harden on both ends of the floor. It's like comparing prime David Robinson to Roy Hibbert.

[SouBeachTalents]

:biggums:

:biggums: Let me hear these valid points. What case does James Harden have over prime Wade? Prime Wade shits on Harden on both ends of the floor. It's like comparing prime David Robinson to Roy Hibbert.

This

[riseagainst]

i'll take harden, gets 20 free throws a game while shooting 1 for 10.

Still gets 22-23 points on 10 shots. Dat efficiency.

[Jlamb47]

big difference.

Kobe plays defense. Kobe has post moves. Kobe can score in alot morre ways. I think Kobe can do everything Harden can

[lilteapot]

:biggums:

:biggums: Let me hear these valid points. What case does James Harden have over prime Wade? Prime Wade shits on Harden on both ends of the floor. It's like comparing prime David Robinson to Roy Hibbert.
agreed, although the only thing Harden has over prime wade is outside shooting and even then Wade made his shots when he needed to

[dubeta]

This thread is telling me Wade > Harden > Kobe, are we in agreement?

[okayabc123]

This thread is telling me Wade > Harden > Kobe, are we in agreement?

reading comprehension :no:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Peak wise

Wade >= Kobe >>>> Harden

[MannyO]

:no: This is disrespectful to Kobe

[Black and White]

I would neg you OP, but you aren't worth it, how can you even mention Hardens name in the same sentence as a player like Kobe???

[The Choken One]

Peak wise

Wade >= Kobe >>>> Harden
The worst part about this post ... is you're being serious.

:facepalm

[Sakkreth]

big difference.

Kobe plays defense. Kobe has post moves. Kobe can score in alot morre ways. I think Kobe can do everything Harden can

False. Kobe can't flop like Harden can.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

The worst part about this post ... is you're being serious.

:facepalm
2009 Wade is as good as any version of Kobe

[Velocirap31]

I don't like kobe at all, but he is way better than harden and it isn't close. I could see current kobe abusing harden in a playoff series and nobody being surprised.

[KungFuJoe]

Prime Harden vs current Kobe would be the best comparison.

It's still Kobe > Harden...but it's close.

[Lamar Odumbb]

prime kobe plus dwight last year = at least wcf in the west

[TheMarkMadsen]

2009 Wade is as good as any version of Kobe

Lol

01,03,06,07,08,09 are all better than Wade 09.

03,06,07 if we only look at regular season for both.

01,08,09 EASILY if we include post season play

[dubeta]

I would neg you OP, but you aren't worth it, how can you even mention Hardens name in the same sentence as a player like Kobe???

So are you saying Harden is so much better that Kobe isnt worthy of being in the same sentence as him?

[Black and White]

So are you saying Harden is so much better that Kobe isnt worthy of being in the same sentence as him?

So you took my sentence and switched the two names around?? :hammerhead:

Horrible troll

[IncarceratedBob]

81.

[Deuce Bigalow]

About five bank accounts, three ounces, and two vehicles

[Mr Exlax]

Retard thread

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Lol

01,03,06,07,08,09 are all better than Wade 09.

03,06,07 if we only look at regular season for both.

01,08,09 EASILY if we include post season play

Pick one season you think is Kobe's peak...

[YouGotServed]

James Harden.

[AnaheimLakers24]

2/5

[Rocketswin2013]

I don't like kobe at all, but he is way better than harden and it isn't close. I could see current kobe abusing harden in a playoff series and nobody being surprised.
Considering what Harden has done to him in one on one matchups, I highly doubt it.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Considering what Harden has done to him in one on one matchups, I highly doubt it.
Which is what?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Considering what Harden has done to him in one on one matchups, I highly doubt it.
?

Kobe has outplayed him head-to-head...even if we just consider Harden's time with the Rockets..

[TheMarkMadsen]

Pick one season you think is Kobe's peak...

Why are you trying to narrow it down for one season?

Greatness isnt defined by one season, 03 T Mac is arguably better than KD right now, but who cares because T Mac could only sustain it for a season while KD has been at that level of play for close to 5 years.

Kobe in 03,06 & 07 are all better than Wades 09 season if we are only focusing on what they did in the regular season.

Kobe in 01,08 & 09 played at a level in the post season than Wade did in the regular season & playoffs in 09

[Rocketswin2013]

Which is what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63TDVWnZ5K8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FIcVUzMwkWk

[ThePhantomCreep]

2009 Wade is as good as any version of Kobe

One whole season, huh?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Why are you trying to narrow it down for one season?


Because that is what i said? "2009 Wade is as good as any version of Kobe"

Peak = 1 season

[RoundMoundOfReb]

One whole season, huh?
The term "Peak" always refers to 1 season...

[Black and White]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63TDVWnZ5K8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FIcVUzMwkWk

Stop trying to overrate Harden, the fact that he can barely compete with a man in the twilight of his career should tell you something....

[bizil]

Not even comparable! Peak wise, MJ, Magic, Kobe, Bird, and Bron are the top five perimeter players of all time in my book. From there u got Big O, West, Dr. J, and Baylor. Harden simply isn't on this level of player as of now and probably never will be. But I can envision Harden being a multiple time All-Star and a potential HOFer if he stays healthy. Their are different levels of greatness, and Kobe is on the top tier of legends.

[Rocketswin2013]

The gap is closing at a fast rate. At a certain point it has to be accepted.

[dh144498]

i'll take harden, gets 20 free throws a game while shooting 1 for 10.

Still gets 22-23 points on 10 shots. Dat efficiency.



The gap is closing at a fast rate. At a certain point it has to be accepted.

:roll:
:roll:

[ISHGoat]

harden is much more efficient and less of a cancer

he can coexist with dwight while kobe couldnt :confusedshrug:

[Showtime2001]

Kobe and it's not even close

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Kobe by a lot.

Obvious agenda thread, **** you OP.

[DonDadda59]

Bean first 6 seasons- 19.8 PPG on 54.7% TS

Harden first 6 seasons- 19.7 PPG on 60.7% TS

Harden>Bean.

Stats don't lie. :applause:

[HOoopCityJones]

Bean first 6 seasons- 19.8 PPG on 54.7% TS

Harden first 6 seasons- 19.7 PPG on 60.7% TS

Harden>Bean.

Stats don't lie. :applause:

The logic of a stat fa9

If two players average similar numbers and the percentage is off by . 2

Player A > Player B


This is why people scoff at statistics.

You take 13 turnovers sweetie, I'll roll with 6/24 23 pts 15 rebounds any day of the week. Hold this L.

[Nashty]

Wade>Harden>Bryant

[dubeta]

harden is much more efficient and less of a cancer

he can coexist with dwight while kobe couldnt :confusedshrug:

This.

Harden + Dwight = WCF


Kobe + Dwight = barely 7th seed 1st round sweep

:confusedshrug:

[DonDadda59]

If two players average similar numbers and the percentage is off by . 2



What if it's off by 6%? :confusedshrug:

[scm5]

Harden is what would come out if Kevin Martin and Corey Maggette had a baby

[Wade's Rings]

Wade>Bryant>Harden

Fixed

[dubeta]

Fixed


Nope, sorry Wade's Rings*

[DMAVS41]

The logic of a stat fa9

If two players average similar numbers and the percentage is off by . 2

Player A > Player B


This is why people scoff at statistics.

You take 13 turnovers sweetie, I'll roll with 6/24 23 pts 15 rebounds any day of the week. Hold this L.

Hold what L.

It's perfectly reasonable to compare Harden and Kobe over their first 6 seasons. I think Kobe was probably slightly better because he played much better defense in his early years, but if you think there is some huge gap between the 2 over the first 6 season....just no.

And why are you referencing something that didn't happen in Kobe's first 6 seasons?

[HOoopCityJones]

Hold what L.

It's perfectly reasonable to compare Harden and Kobe over their first 6 seasons. I think Kobe was probably slightly better because he played much better defense in his early years, but if you think there is some huge gap between the 2 over the first 6 season....just no.

And why are you referencing something that didn't happen in Kobe's first 6 seasons?



To you because you have the ultimate downplay Kobe agenda and I didn't really notice it til the other day. I can't take anything you say seriously when it concerns to Kobe. Anything else and you seem a little more reasonable, I wonder why that it is.


I didn't say you couldn't compare them sweetie, go right ahead. But Kobe is better. I don't give a shit about fabricated or adjusted context and what if scenarios.

[DonDadda59]

To you because you have the ultimate downplay Kobe agenda and I didn't really notice it til the other day. I can't take anything you say seriously when it concerns to Kobe. Anything else and you seem a little more reasonable, I wonder why that it is.


I didn't say you couldn't compare them sweetie, go right ahead. But Kobe is better. I don't give a shit about fabricated or adjusted context and what if scenarios.

:no:

Bean First 6 Seasons- 21.1 PER, .171 Ws/48

Beard First 6 Seasons- 21.5 PER, .207 Ws/48

http://images.tvrage.com/shows/30/29446.jpg

[TheMarkMadsen]

Hold what L.

It's perfectly reasonable to compare Harden and Kobe over their first 6 seasons. I think Kobe was probably slightly better because he played much better defense in his early years, but if you think there is some huge gap between the 2 over the first 6 season....just no.

And why are you referencing something that didn't happen in Kobe's first 6 seasons?

how stupid are you??

01 & 02 Kobe absolutly shit on Harden

[HOoopCityJones]

:no:

Bean First 6 Seasons- 21.1 PER, .171 Ws/48

Beard First 6 Seasons- 21.5 PER, .207 Ws/48

http://images.tvrage.com/shows/30/29446.jpg


Dude , you're in three separate threads right now trying to argue against numbers. What you should say is numbers never lie unless they prop up Kobe.


That's only when you break this alt out.

[DonDadda59]

how stupid are you??

01 & 02 Kobe absolutly shit on Harden

'14 & '15 Beard: 26.4 PPG/5/7 on 61.1 TS%, 25.1 PER, .244 Ws/48

'01 & '02 Bean: 26.7 PPG/6/5 on 54.8 TS%, 23.8 PER, .198 Ws/48

Beard Now>>Bean 01, 02


Dude , you're in three separate threads right now trying to argue against numbers. What you should say is numbers never lie unless they prop up Kobe.


That's only when you break this alt out.

I'm a complicated man and no one understands me but the stats.

[Heavincent]

'14 & '15 Beard: 26.4 PPG/5/7 on 61.1 TS%, 25.1 PER, .244 Ws/48

'01 & '02 Bean: 26.7 PPG/6/5 on 54.8 TS%, 23.8 PER, .198 Ws/48

Beard Now>>Bean 01, 02



I'm a complicated man and no one understands me but the stats.

Did Harden drop 45+/10+ in back to back playoff games on the road?

[ISHGoat]

'14 & '15 Beard: 26.4 PPG/5/7 on 61.1 TS% ,25.1 PER, .244 Ws/48

'01 & '02 Bean: 26.7 PPG/6/5 on 54.8 TS%, 23.8 PER, .198 Ws/48

Beard Now>>Bean 01, 02



I'm a complicated man and no one understands me but the stats.

i agree, beard right now is more effective than kobe was during the threepeat era

these kobe stans just dont get it. kobe was a volume shooting two guard on mediocre efficiency that was a defensive liability in his later prime who often couldnt get along with teammates

its no surprise that current james harden is better than him

all advanced stats agree with this

[DonDadda59]

Did Harden drop 45+/10+ in back to back playoff games on the road?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/leo-decaprio-shoulder-shrug.gif

[HOoopCityJones]

I'm a complicated man and no one understands me but the stats.

Doesn't deny being an alt. :roll:

[DonDadda59]

Doesn't deny being an alt. :roll:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/259593/bill-clinton-sexual-relations-o.gif

[chazzy]

Harden is very good, but I still don't trust him in the playoffs. Too many games where he looks like a ghost out there. Game 2 turnover at the end, game 3 disappearance, game 5 disaster. And then the dropoffs of the past two years from reg season to playoffs

[TheMarkMadsen]

'14 & '15 Beard: 26.4 PPG/5/7 on 61.1 TS%, 25.1 PER, .244 Ws/48

'01 & '02 Bean: 26.7 PPG/6/5 on 54.8 TS%, 23.8 PER, .198 Ws/48

Beard Now>>Bean 01, 02



I'm a complicated man and no one understands me but the stats.

posting 1st round and WCF beat down stats vs b2b championship runs :lol

hold this L

Kobe in 01.. 29/7/6/2/1 on 47% FG, 56% TS.. championship ring

32/7/6 on 49% through the WC playoffs...

hold another L dude :oldlol:

[dh144498]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/259593/bill-clinton-sexual-relations-o.gif

:lol

[dh144498]

so you are telling me that Kobe playing as the 2nd option has similar numbers than Harden being the 1st option?

Kobe da gawd.

:bowdown:

http://i.imgur.com/8usmo31.gif

[DonDadda59]

posting 1st round and WCF beat down stats vs b2b championship runs :lol

hold this L

Kobe in 01.. 29/7/6/2/1 on 47% FG, 56% TS.. championship ring

32/7/6 on 49% through the WC playoffs...

hold another L dude :oldlol:

:no:

http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/robin_01.jpg

VS

http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Aquaman1.jpg


you're in three separate threads right now trying to argue against numbers. What you should say is numbers never lie unless they prop up Kobe.

Been saying that for the longest, but nigguhs here are on some short bus bullshit so now I'm doing this.

[Batman]Sometimes, people need dramatic examples to shake them out of their apathy. I can be that example. [/Voice]

[ImKobe]

Harden's greatest career feat - finishing 2nd in the MVP race

this thread can suck my balls

[Cold soul]

how stupid are you??

01 & 02 Kobe absolutly shit on Harden

Does anyone take his opinion and views seriously when it comes to Kobe. Hell no!

[DFish24]

I would take '01, '03, and '06-'10 versions of Kobe over 2015 James Harden pretty easily.

[Cold soul]

I would take '01, '03, and '06-'10 versions of Kobe over 2015 James Harden pretty easily.

You left 02 too Kobe was great that postseason.