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guy
07-09-2014, 12:16 AM
So apparently the Bulls are pretty much out of the mix for Melo because after amnestying Boozer, they can only offer a contract starting at only about $16 million the first year. I completely understand why Melo wouldn't want to give up that much money. So in regards to the Bulls, am I missing something here? Couldn't they easily just package a pick with guys like Mike Dunleavy Jr. and Anthony Randolph, both of whom sum up to about $5 million next year, to a team with cap space like Philadelphia, and use that extra $5 million to add to Melo's contract, starting him off at about $21 million next year? If I'm wrong, someone please explain this to me. The CBA is confusing.

If I'm right, then what the **** are the Bulls doing? Are they even trying to make the space to offer Melo more? Cause I haven't even heard of them trying to do anything and I have a hard time thinking that teams wouldn't take on our role players.. Just sounds like they offered him a pretty low number and he said no, and then they just didn't care and gave up.

Akrazotile
07-09-2014, 12:25 AM
Maybe their coach doesn want him :hammerhead:

bluechox2
07-09-2014, 01:25 AM
bulls presentation started with defense

melo was like **** this shit

poido123
07-09-2014, 01:28 AM
bulls presentation started with defense

melo was like **** this shit


:lol


We might of missed on Melo, but we didn't give up huge capspace to sign him either. I just don't think Melo commanding over 20 mill a year is worth it, unless it was Durant or Lebron.

I want Lance for half the price, but that's me.

I really like our draft picks. Bairstow will surprise a lot of people out of this draft.

SamuraiSWISH
07-09-2014, 01:29 AM
We never get ANYONE noteworthy in free agency. We're lucky we got Derrick in the draft. Our franchise just flat out sucks at building basketball teams. It's that simple. And for some reason, no one wants to play here.

CHi1PriDe
07-09-2014, 01:38 AM
:lol


We might of missed on Melo, but we didn't give up huge capspace to sign him either. I just don't think Melo commanding over 20 mill a year is worth it, unless it was Durant or Lebron.

I want Lance for half the price, but that's me.

I really like our draft picks. Bairstow will surprise a lot of people out of this draft.

I want Lance too but doesn't look like the bulls are that interested :(

poido123
07-09-2014, 02:24 AM
I want Lance too but doesn't look like the bulls are that interested :(


He might of burnt a few bridges in past playoffs :oldlol:

It's a shame, we could really use him.

STATUTORY
07-09-2014, 02:26 AM
We never get ANYONE noteworthy in free agency. We're lucky we got Derrick in the draft. Our franchise just flat out sucks at building basketball teams. It's that simple. And for some reason, no one wants to play here.
chicago is a hard town to sell

poido123
07-09-2014, 02:27 AM
We never get ANYONE noteworthy in free agency. We're lucky we got Derrick in the draft. Our franchise just flat out sucks at building basketball teams. It's that simple. And for some reason, no one wants to play here.


We have sucked at signing big free agents since the MJ era.

We've developed some talent, but for whatever reason we can't seem to get that knockout trade/signing to get us into true contender status.

You can't say we haven't built some good teams, we just haven't elevated those good teams into elite ones.

poido123
07-09-2014, 02:29 AM
chicago is a hard town to sell


Come to Chicago! We have the number 1 crime r...On second thought, you should consider anywhere else but here, we can't guarantee your safety. :( :lol

SamuraiSWISH
07-09-2014, 03:12 AM
chicago is a hard town to sell
It's not Chicago, the city. It's something about the Bulls organization internally that must alienate talent. Their cheapness? I don't know, but the city itself is beautiful.

poido123
07-09-2014, 04:06 AM
It's not Chicago, the city. It's something about the Bulls organization internally that must alienate talent. Their cheapness? I don't know, but the city itself is beautiful.


The organisation probably expects a star like Carmelo to take less money to play with them, since they can offer a contender which is true, but stars still want to get close to what they are worth.


Chicago ownership are happy, as long as they continue to sell out games and sell merchandise which they have no problem doing. They don't have the same urgency to acquire stars as other cities looking to boost their memberships or make profit.

However, Bulls brass have a history of spending money when they think they have a contender. If they luck out on Carmelo, I expect them to be tight with the cap.

KingPush
07-09-2014, 04:35 AM
It's not Chicago, the city. It's something about the Bulls organization internally that must alienate talent. Their cheapness? I don't know, but the city itself is beautiful.
Its Rose. I bet a fully healthy Rose wouldve convinced Melo to join

MellowYellow
07-09-2014, 04:38 AM
If Phil can't unload amare and bargs, I think Phil will be forced s and t Melo to Bulls.

BoutPractice
07-09-2014, 04:38 AM
It's not Chicago, the city. It's something about the Bulls organization internally that must alienate talent. Their cheapness? I don't know, but the city itself is beautiful.
It's funny, too, because the Bulls are probably the best basketball brand.

Great home court, great logo, great jersey... people all over the world, from the poorest slums of Africa to fancy streets in Northern Europe, wear Bulls caps, whether or not they're NBA fans.

MellowYellow
07-09-2014, 04:39 AM
If I was a bulls fan, and Melo ends up going to the Knicks or Lakers, I would be PISSED. This couldn't be a better situation for Melo, and for him to pass up on this opportunity just for a little more money would be a shame. Shit, even if Rose is not 100%, or god forbid he gets injured again, Hinrich running the point is not a bad thing at all for Melo

:facepalm It's not a little bit of money, we are talking about freakin 50 million dollars here.

poido123
07-09-2014, 04:44 AM
If I was a bulls fan, and Melo ends up going to the Knicks or Lakers, I would be PISSED. This couldn't be a better situation for Melo, and for him to pass up on this opportunity just for a little more money would be a shame. Shit, even if Rose is not 100%, or god forbid he gets injured again, Hinrich running the point is not a bad thing at all for Melo


Disappointed, not pissed.

But if he's going to the Lakers or resigning with the Knicks, he obviously went for the money since the Bulls offer a better chance at contending than those two.

Speaks volumes about how serious Melo is about winning.

Sarcastic
07-09-2014, 04:52 AM
Its Rose. I bet a fully healthy Rose wouldve convinced Melo to join


I think that is a big part of it, along with the huge discrepancy in money. Melo just spent 3 years dealing with Amar'e's knees. If you were him, would you want to go to a new team that will have ~$20 million tied up in another player with shoddy knees?

That and he would be leaving $50 million on the table.

poido123
07-09-2014, 04:55 AM
:facepalm It's not a little bit of money, we are talking about freakin 50 million dollars here.


Bulls can currently offer 4 years around 75 mill, but would likely make some trades to offer closer to 90. (19 mill a year)

Lakers offered 4 years 97 mill. (23 mill a year)

Knicks offered an extra year and 129 mill. (26 mill a year)



So at this stage, the Bulls need to come up to the 22-23 mill a year and perhaps offer an extra year if they want to compete with the knicks offer. ATM, they are just way off.

RoundMoundOfReb
07-09-2014, 04:56 AM
It's not Chicago, the city. It's something about the Bulls organization internally that must alienate talent. Their cheapness? I don't know, but the city itself is beautiful.

For Melo in particular I think it must be the uncertainty with Rose. He probably doesn't want to end up in another Amare situation..

Trentknicks
07-09-2014, 05:39 AM
Injury problems aside, what the hell is Rose's problems with recruiting? He doesn't need to lick honey nut cheerios off Melo's balls, just say "yeah he's the kind of player I'd like to play with".

Just seems like one of those indie kids who want to be soooooo different by consistently going out of his way to say "I don't recruit". If I was a Bulls fan I'd be a little annoyed.

sportjames23
07-09-2014, 07:02 AM
bulls presentation started with defense

melo was like **** this shit


:roll: :roll: :roll:

NZStreetBaller
07-09-2014, 07:34 AM
personally i dont think the bulls need melo. they just need a 100% healthy rose and they'll be fine.

step_back
07-09-2014, 07:35 AM
Injury problems aside, what the hell is Rose's problems with recruiting? He doesn't need to lick honey nut cheerios off Melo's balls, just say "yeah he's the kind of player I'd like to play with".

Just seems like one of those indie kids who want to be soooooo different by consistently going out of his way to say "I don't recruit". If I was a Bulls fan I'd be a little annoyed.

He sucks at recruiting people. He feels it's not his job. As a leader of the team it is your job and one player can't win it by themselves. Hopefully he lightens up a bit and starts to say who he'd like to play with. His attitude in 2010 wasn't good either.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 08:46 AM
I still think Melo's down to NY or Chi.

Bulls pitch got Melo enough where he hasn't eliminated Bulls.

Bulls are suspiciously quiet. I think that S&T to bring Melo in for the max while keeping the core is gaining momentum. NY media have been brining it up lately as speculation mounts that NYK are uneasy about things now that it's stretching out this long.

Sources out of NY also are saying Phil would do a S&T if it came to it so at least he could grab some 1st rounders.

Wait and see how the summer goes guys.

Bulls could still land Melo, or Love, or Lance and other role player to go w/ Mirotic, McDermott, etc.

Remember, Thibs and Melo have Leon Rose, the same agent. Bulls still rep his best chance to win, gotta get the S&T and Melo could be here.

Simmons doesn't know but thinks Melo goes to Chicago as of 7/8. Him and Lowe were gushing over a Melo, Rose, Butler, Taj, Noah, McDermott, Mirotic team. They think that team goes to finals year 1 and so do I.

I just hope now that the Melo to LA buzz is dying down that he was just using them as leverage to get a S&T to the Bulls.

Gun to my head though? I think he's trying to stay in nY, but needs Phil to make a miracle happen. Don't think Melo will throw away another year or two atleast in NY.

longtime lurker
07-09-2014, 09:45 AM
So apparently the Bulls are pretty much out of the mix for Melo because after amnestying Boozer, they can only offer a contract starting at only about $16 million the first year. I completely understand why Melo wouldn't want to give up that much money. So in regards to the Bulls, am I missing something here? Couldn't they easily just package a pick with guys like Mike Dunleavy Jr. and Anthony Randolph, both of whom sum up to about $5 million next year, to a team with cap space like Philadelphia, and use that extra $5 million to add to Melo's contract, starting him off at about $21 million next year? If I'm wrong, someone please explain this to me. The CBA is confusing.

If I'm right, then what the **** are the Bulls doing? Are they even trying to make the space to offer Melo more? Cause I haven't even heard of them trying to do anything and I have a hard time thinking that teams wouldn't take on our role players.. Just sounds like they offered him a pretty low number and he said no, and then they just didn't care and gave up.

In in word yes. The Bulls put themselves out of contention by giving a weak offer. They could move dunleavy and other pieces to at least give him a deal starting at 20. But they limped in with a weak offer for a player of Melo's calibre. If you're a free agent and a franchise offers you 17 million because they'd rather keep Mike Dunleavy you won't take them very seriously

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 10:09 AM
In in word yes. The Bulls put themselves out of contention by giving a weak offer. They could move dunleavy and other pieces to at least give him a deal starting at 20. But they limped in with a weak offer for a player of Melo's calibre. If you're a free agent and a franchise offers you 17 million because they'd rather keep Mike Dunleavy you won't take them very seriously

Bulls aren't out of contention.


And that false garbage you just said about Bulls not willing to move Dunleavy is comical.

Bulls will trade Taj Gibson in a heartbeat for Melo if he wants Chicago, let alone MDJ.

It's funny how people just go with whatever the media feeds them.

Roundball_Rock
07-09-2014, 11:06 AM
We never get ANYONE noteworthy in free agency. We're lucky we got Derrick in the draft. Our franchise just flat out sucks at building basketball teams. It's that simple. And for some reason, no one wants to play here.

You are right with respect to free agency. The best FA we have gotten is Carlos Boozer :lol , a borderline all-star in Utah who declined in Chicago. I don't understand why the Bulls can't attract top FA's. Chicago is the third largest market. Yes, Chicago is much smaller than the NY and LA markets but it also is significantly larger than the next tier of markets (i.e. Philadelphia, Washington, Houston). The Bulls have a great tradition and have provided the opportunity to play with good talent and good coaching for most of the 80's, 90's and 2010's. Yet all we have to show is Boozer, the 6th best FA of 2010.

I disagree your comment on the Bulls sucking at building teams. Despite the lack of top free agents the Bulls have proven to be good at building contenders. The Bulls drafted Jordan, Grant, Kukoc, Rose, Noah, Deng and essentially drafted Pippen (the deal was in place with Seattle because Sacramento, picking 6th after Seattle, would take him and he would not be there at #8 when the Bulls picked). The Bulls acquired Rodman via trade to remedy a big need and also made the tough but ultimately correct call to trade Oakley for Cartwright. The Bulls were legitimate title contenders in 2011 and 2012 with Rose and the 2015 "supporting cast" arguably is better than in those years, although how well Rose will play is unclear.


We have sucked at signing big free agents since the MJ era.


Even during that period, despite having the attraction of playing with MJ, Pippen and being coached by Jackson! Kerr may be the best FA signing the Bulls made during that era (I believe he was a FA)--and he was the 12th man on Orlando prior to flourishing as a Bull.


Its Rose. I bet a fully healthy Rose wouldve convinced Melo to join

Well, Rose was healthy in 2010 and LeBron, Wade, Bosh all spurned the Bulls and Rose cannot be blamed for T Mac, although I agree Rose could have, you know, actually helped try to acquire Carmelo...


I think that is a big part of it, along with the huge discrepancy in money. Melo just spent 3 years dealing with Amar'e's knees. If you were him, would you want to go to a new team that will have ~$20 million tied up in another player with shoddy knees?

The thing is even if Rose plays 0 games next year the Bulls with Carmelo would still be the #1 or #2 team in the East, depending on what happens with Miami. The Bulls won 45 and 48 games without Rose and with no offense. Add the second best scorer in the game and the Bulls become a 60 win team again...


Bulls can currently offer 4 years around 75 mill, but would likely make some trades to offer closer to 90. (19 mill a year)

Lakers offered 4 years 97 mill. (23 mill a year)

Knicks offered an extra year and 129 mill. (26 mill a year

They should have run numbers on what winning a championship translates to in terms of increased endorsements. I suspect that would erase the difference with the Lakers, at least. In the 1990's the Bulls had the #1 and #3 endorsers in the league (Shaq was #2).


Injury problems aside, what the hell is Rose's problems with recruiting? He doesn't need to lick honey nut cheerios off Melo's balls, just say "yeah he's the kind of player I'd like to play with".

I think part of it is he just has a narrow view of what his job is but part of it is he views recruiting others as undermining his existing teammates, given what the recruitment implies. I disagree with his thinking on this but this is what I have read about his thought process.

guy
07-09-2014, 11:14 AM
Bulls aren't out of contention.


And that false garbage you just said about Bulls not willing to move Dunleavy is comical.

Bulls will trade Taj Gibson in a heartbeat for Melo if he wants Chicago, let alone MDJ.

It's funny how people just go with whatever the media feeds them.

Well why haven't they? What's the holdup? I'm hoping maybe they have some deals in place already that they will pull the trigger on if Melo decided to go not in an S&T and this is just not getting reported.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 11:34 AM
Well why haven't they? What's the holdup? I'm hoping maybe they have some deals in place already that they will pull the trigger on if Melo decided to go not in an S&T and this is just not getting reported.


I'm glad we are having this convo!

Bulls will unload a guy like Dunleavy for Melo in an instant but only if Melo declares he wants the Bulls.

If he doesn't and you move MDJ for him regardless, you lost a great trading chip for another deal (ex:KLove).

There are very few teams that wouldn't want a trusty 3pt threat like Dunleavy on a cheap 3mil expiring deal. Hell, MDJ won a playoff game virtually on his own last year against the Wiz. He's a perfect piece for any contender or a great piece for a rebuilding team to help mentor young shooters and what not.

Bulls have to be careful they don't trade their assets unless they know what they are going to get in return.

Tribune reported 4/5 days ago that MDJ will likely be moved regardless of Bulls getting Melo but they have to see how the market turns out after Melo and LBJ make their moves.

guy
07-09-2014, 12:03 PM
I'm glad we are having this convo!

Bulls will unload a guy like Dunleavy for Melo in an instant but only if Melo declares he wants the Bulls.

If he doesn't and you move MDJ for him regardless, you lost a great trading chip for another deal (ex:KLove).

There are very few teams that wouldn't want a trusty 3pt threat like Dunleavy on a cheap 3mil expiring deal. Hell, MDJ won a playoff game virtually on his own last year against the Wiz. He's a perfect piece for any contender or a great piece for a rebuilding team to help mentor young shooters and what not.

Bulls have to be careful they don't trade their assets unless they know what they are going to get in return.

Tribune reported 4/5 days ago that MDJ will likely be moved regardless of Bulls getting Melo but they have to see how the market turns out after Melo and LBJ make their moves.

Thanks. Makes a ton of sense. Well then I guess I have a problem with the media just completely ignoring this and making it seem like that $70 something million offer would be their final offer. I guess they are really trying to push NY vs. LA.

kshutts1
07-09-2014, 12:12 PM
Total tangent, but our best FA signing has probably been Ben Wallace, not Boozer.

Anyway, Durant is the absolutely perfect player to fit seamlessly onto the Bulls team and make them instant, overnight contenders. Melo is number 2. So I want Melo. Badly.

But it's not the end of the world if we don't get him. Just give control of the franchise to someone that's alive, and coherent enough to recognize the truths of FA in regards to Chicago, me!and we'll be fine.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 12:24 PM
Thanks. Makes a ton of sense. Well then I guess I have a problem with the media just completely ignoring this and making it seem like that $70 something million offer would be their final offer. I guess they are really trying to push NY vs. LA.


One of my childhood best friends cousin and uncle works in the Bulls front office. His uncle is actually pretty high up. I get little tidbits every once in a while. Last we talked I got this....

Bulls gave Melo a bunch of different scenarios on how they could acquire him and for how much.

Basically the first option was what we hear in the national media a lot, the Bulls starting Melo out around 17-18 mil while keeping at least Taj,Rose, Noah, Butler, McDermott.

Next was clearing Taj and others and getting Melo 20-22 a year.

The one option that Melo and the Bulls org were both truly in agreement about should he choose the Bulls was the S&T scenario involving Booz to the Knicks or a 3rd team.

And apparently one other S&T scenario where Booz is first amnestied and Bulls send out guys like Dunleavy, Snell, the un guaranteed contracts of Amundson, Brewer, and James(4 mil instant expires), with some draft picks attached.

There are many options folks.

It just kills me that so many people follow the NBA but cant grasp one simple thing.....

The Bulls are all in for Melo, if he wants them, they'll do whatever it takes. But people get caught up listening to bullshit as if the Bulls want Melo but think 4-75 is all the Bulls are willing to do.

The Bulls have been planning for Melo since the Deng trade. Then furthermore by smartly signing those 3 scrubs to have 4 mil off the books for a future S&T. Because also not only did Chicago trade Deng to have cap space this summer but also received a protected 1st rounder from the Cavs they can swap for 2015 summer and a pick w/ the Kings too.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 12:27 PM
Total tangent, but our best FA signing has probably been Ben Wallace, not Boozer.

Anyway, Durant is the absolutely perfect player to fit seamlessly onto the Bulls team and make them instant, overnight contenders. Melo is number 2. So I want Melo. Badly.

But it's not the end of the world if we don't get him. Just give control of the franchise to someone that's alive, and coherent enough to recognize the truths of FA in regards to Chicago, me!and we'll be fine.

Yeah Durantula on the Bulls would be insane.

Melo is a perfect fit though as well. I want this to be over either way because the suspense is killing us all. If the Bulls land Anthony, HELLO TITLE CONTENTION. Regardless of Derrick Rose, Melo, Butler, Noah, Taj, McDermott, Mirotic.... is the 1st or 2nd best team in the conference depending on Lebron's choice. Because right now the Pacers are in big trouble, shopping Hibbert, Lance possibly not re-upping, West a year older, no upgrade at point.

Time is now to strike for the Bulls, hopefully Melo realizes this and doesn't head back to NY where he sure as hell wont compete for a title this upcoming season and maybe not for 2-3 season while Phil builds it up over there.

AnaheimLakers24
07-09-2014, 12:29 PM
bulls are 1st round fodder no matter what. stop thinking every player you plug in will make you gods





d rose is broken lol

guy
07-09-2014, 12:31 PM
One of my childhood best friends cousin and uncle works in the Bulls front office. His uncle is actually pretty high up. I get little tidbits every once in a while. Last we talked I got this....

Bulls gave Melo a bunch of different scenarios on how they could acquire him and for how much.

Basically the first option was what we hear in the national media a lot, the Bulls starting Melo out around 17-18 mil while keeping at least Taj,Rose, Noah, Butler, McDermott.

Next was clearing Taj and others and getting Melo 20-22 a year.

The one option that Melo and the Bulls org were both truly in agreement about should he choose the Bulls was the S&T scenario involving Booz to the Knicks or a 3rd team.

And apparently one other S&T scenario where Booz is first amnestied and Bulls send out guys like Dunleavy, Snell, the un guaranteed contracts of Amundson, Brewer, and James(4 mil instant expires), with some draft picks attached.

There are many options folks.

It just kills me that so many people follow the NBA but cant grasp one simple thing.....

The Bulls are all in for Melo, if he wants them, they'll do whatever it takes. But people get caught up listening to bullshit as if the Bulls want Melo but think 4-75 is all the Bulls are willing to do.

The Bulls have been planning for Melo since the Deng trade. Then furthermore by smartly signing those 3 scrubs to have 4 mil off the books for a future S&T. Because also not only did Chicago trade Deng to have cap space this summer but also received a protected 1st rounder from the Cavs they can swap for 2015 summer and a pick w/ the Kings too.

Funny thing is I have faith that they might be able to get a S&T done because I ultimately don't buy that Phil Jackson actually wants Carmelo Anthony back. Maybe unless Lebron signs a one-year deal with the Heat and is a FA next year so he can bring him over with Melo, but I don't think that's happening cause I think Lebron is going back to Cleveland.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 12:36 PM
bulls are 1st round fodder no matter what. stop thinking every player you plug in will make you gods





d rose is broken lol


Lakers are out of the playoffs fodder no matter what. stop thinking every player will make you gods



kobe is broken lol

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 12:39 PM
Funny thing is I have faith that they might be able to get a S&T done because I ultimately don't buy that Phil Jackson actually wants Carmelo Anthony back. Maybe unless Lebron signs a one-year deal with the Heat and is a FA next year so he can bring him over with Melo, but I don't think that's happening cause I think Lebron is going back to Cleveland.


The S&T will happen but only if Carmelo chooses Chicago obviously.

There is no way in hell Phil Jackson wouldn't take back a couple future 1sts if the alternative is losing Melo for nothing.

Even the NY media/papers are saying that he would be open to it because he wants more draft picks to build the Knicks core, whether to draft young cheap players or to move picks in other deals down the road.

It's just the way the NBA works.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 12:41 PM
I still think Melo winds up in NY though if i had to guess right now.


Gonna be tough to leave all the money and comfort behind.


But Phil better unload Stat and Bargs or something to that extent because the 2014-15 Knicks as is right now, might be the reason Melo ultimately decides to leave.

That's why he was at least checking to see if Pau would go there because he needs something else for next season after it came out that Melo "felt alone" on the court a lot last season.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 12:56 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-anthony-made-free-agency-decision-knicks-lakers-bulls-waiting-article-1.1859694


Instead, as the Daily News reported on Monday, Anthony is

Roundball_Rock
07-09-2014, 12:58 PM
Yeah Durantula on the Bulls would be insane.

Melo is a perfect fit though as well. I want this to be over either way because the suspense is killing us all. If the Bulls land Anthony, HELLO TITLE CONTENTION. Regardless of Derrick Rose, Melo, Butler, Noah, Taj, McDermott, Mirotic.... is the 1st or 2nd best team in the conference depending on Lebron's choice. Because right now the Pacers are in big trouble, shopping Hibbert, Lance possibly not re-upping, West a year older, no upgrade at point.

Time is now to strike for the Bulls, hopefully Melo realizes this and doesn't head back to NY where he sure as hell wont compete for a title this upcoming season and maybe not for 2-3 season while Phil builds it up over there.

:applause:

Carmelo is 30. He has only 2-3 elite seasons left and maybe 2-3 more all-star caliber seasons after that. The odds are that by the time NY assembles a respectable team, Carmelo will no longer by elite and no longer capable of leading a contender.


bulls are 1st round fodder no matter what.

:roll:

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 01:16 PM
:applause:

Carmelo is 30. He has only 2-3 elite seasons left and maybe 2-3 more all-star caliber seasons after that. The odds are that by the time NY assembles a respectable team, Carmelo will no longer by elite and no longer capable of leading a contender.



:roll:

You are correct good sir!

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 01:22 PM
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There are stories out there that are pushing the idea that Carmelo Anthony was somewhat put-off by Rose's low-key attitude last Tuesday...
11:30 AM - 9 Jul 2014

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.. just spoke to a source who said they are completely false. "The two had a great conversation,'' the source said. Later at dinner ...


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... Noah and Taj even spoke to Anthony about how humble Rose is and that he just wants to win. Anthony seemed to get it.
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Also, Rose hasn't told any of his teammates that he has a preference of Love or Anthony, and has admitted the team needs help to win a chip.
11:35 AM - 9 Jul 2014

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 01:32 PM
On Grantland today....

"Are You There, God? Please send Carmelo to the Bulls"

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/are-you-there-god-please-send-carmelo-to-the-bulls/


"Well, it

Rameek
07-09-2014, 01:38 PM
Melo isnt going to Chicago LMAO

the more threads you people make the more your butthurt later. Just let it die.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 01:49 PM
Melo isnt going to Chicago LMAO

the more threads you people make the more your butthurt later. Just let it die.




Solid post. oh youre a Knicks fan....definition of butt hurt.

"LMAO"


P.S. If nothing else, its fun to talk about. The NY Post talks about it everyday now so Im not the only one.

Rameek
07-09-2014, 02:41 PM
Solid post. oh youre a Knicks fan....definition of butt hurt.

"LMAO"


P.S. If nothing else, its fun to talk about. The NY Post talks about it everyday now so Im not the only one.
nothing has changed in any of these threads.

How is the Knick fans butthurt?

I said the more threads made the more butthurt Chicago will be from being rejected.

Noticed how Houston and Dallas fans accepted the reality.

None of the papers are quoting anyone or claiming sauces for a S&T FYI.

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 02:52 PM
nothing has changed in any of these threads.

How is the Knick fans butthurt?

I said the more threads made the more butthurt Chicago will be from being rejected.

Noticed how Houston and Dallas fans accepted the reality.

None of the papers are quoting anyone or claiming sauces for a S&T FYI.


Your the one who came up in here crying. It was hoops talk before some over the edge Knick fan like yourself came.

FYI your wrong about the NYPost.

"The Bulls would need a sign-and-trade to net Anthony, and an NBA source said Jackson probably would do it if he thought he would lose him to the Lakers for no compensation."

http://nypost.com/2014/07/08/decisions-to-be-made-before-lebron-could-join-melo-in-ny/

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 02:55 PM
Another mention....

With reports of Anthony

Dengness9
07-09-2014, 02:56 PM
Dont worry puss boy, youll get Melo back and Bulls will still stomp the Knicks.

SamuraiSWISH
07-09-2014, 03:00 PM
Melo is such a perfect fit for the Bulls. He's probably too dumb to realize, or flat out doesn't care about playing his natural game, while competing for championships. He can score until his hearts content while Noaj, Taj, Butler hold down the fort with all the dirty work like defense, rebounding, etc.

A healthy Derrick too possibly as a wild card to add to the mix? Chicago v.s. Cleveland Eastern Confernce Finals:

Rose v.s. Irving
Butler v.s. Wiggins
Melo v.s. LeBron
Taj v.s. Bennett
Noah v.s. AV

nathanjizzle
07-09-2014, 03:01 PM
meh, i couldnt care less.

-Lebron23-
07-09-2014, 03:03 PM
Is there any indication of this thing happening? Wasn't Melo 'aligned' with Phil's plans after he offered him the max?

navy
07-09-2014, 03:04 PM
Its between the Lakers and the knicks.

Rameek
07-09-2014, 03:10 PM
Dont worry puss boy, youll get Melo back and Bulls will still stomp the Knicks.
Name calling precious.

I dont think the stomping will continue much further. Finally we have a real President and system.

I respect your coach he was a Knick. LMAO

Rameek
07-09-2014, 03:11 PM
Its between the Lakers and the knicks.
Bosh goes to Houston Melo may consider the Heat.

Kblaze8855
07-09-2014, 03:15 PM
We never get ANYONE noteworthy in free agency. We're lucky we got Derrick in the draft. Our franchise just flat out sucks at building basketball teams. It's that simple. And for some reason, no one wants to play here.

Unrestricted free agency only started in 1988. We were contending or winning rings the first 10 years of it. The Bulls have cleared bigtime space in the hopes of signing a superstar I wanna say twice. Missed on Tmac/Hill/Duncan and then in 2010.

Maybe one or two attempts to sign someone im not remembering but really....the Bulls have rarely been in position to offer anyone anything major.

-Lebron23-
07-09-2014, 03:25 PM
Unrestricted free agency only started in 1988. The Bulls have cleered bigtime space in the hopes of signing a superstar I wanna say twice. Missed on Tmac/Hill/Duncan and then in 2010.

Maybe one or two attempts to sign someone im not remembering but really....the Bulls have rarely been in position to offer anyone anything major.
They had an agreement with Joe Johnson in 2010 but the Hawks threw all the money in the world at him, hardly Bulls fault.