View Full Version : How come Hayward is getting a max but Afflalo gets 7,5 MIL
Booz Vivic
07-09-2014, 09:43 AM
Player A: 16,2 PPG 5,1 RPG og 5,2 APG. Skotn
GimmeThat
07-09-2014, 09:49 AM
[QUOTE=Booz Vivic]Player A: 16,2 PPG 5,1 RPG og 5,2 APG. Skotn
chocolatethunder
07-09-2014, 09:50 AM
[QUOTE=Booz Vivic]Player A: 16,2 PPG 5,1 RPG og 5,2 APG. Skotn
GimmeThat
07-09-2014, 10:12 AM
Prob because one is 30 and is as good as he's gonna get and one is 24 or however old he is and is thought of as not having reached his potential yet.
I think potential here also means that teams can explore the possibility of the versatility of Hayward and see what they can do with him as he's still focusing on developing his game.
while Afflalo is pretty much a specialist. who's gonna get a contract that is better than his peer by the time he hits the FA market.
versatility may not nessecarily trump specialist for the long haul of their career though. In fact, those are probably the ones that gets moved down the rotation faster than the others.
STATUTORY
07-09-2014, 10:15 AM
Gordon Hayward has that universal appeal
AnaheimLakers24
07-09-2014, 10:31 AM
affalo is garbage
Rubio2Gasol
07-09-2014, 10:32 AM
Race bait.
But race probably is a factor.
morbius
07-09-2014, 10:44 AM
How did Kukoc get twice the money Pippen got in Chicago?
Several reasons, but being handsome white dude sure helped a lot.
hawksdogsbraves
07-09-2014, 10:49 AM
I honestly do think if Hayward were an ugly black guy he'd be getting offered about $10 mil/yr.
Real14
07-09-2014, 10:52 AM
Prob because one is 30 and is as good as he's gonna get and one is 24 or however old he is and is thought of as not having reached his potential yet.
This plus Denver is acting cheap.
Real14
07-09-2014, 10:53 AM
I honestly do think if Hayward were an ugly black guy he'd be getting offered about $10 mil/yr.
why does it have to be ugly? Is LeBron ugly?
GimmeThat
07-09-2014, 10:56 AM
How did Kukoc get twice the money Pippen got in Chicago?
Several reasons, but being handsome white dude sure helped a lot.
you trying to tell me I'm running out of time on being white?
hawksdogsbraves
07-09-2014, 11:06 AM
why does it have to be ugly? Is LeBron ugly?
Eh kinda, but he's actually good at basketball unlike Hayward.
Afflalo is a plain looking black dude, just got half of what Hayward is going to get and he's much better than Hayward. I get that he's older, but still.
Hayward is the young, good looking white player that every small market, (white fanbase) team wants. Lance is way better than Hayward and nobody is lining up to give him the max.
STATUTORY
07-09-2014, 11:10 AM
Eh kinda, but he's actually good at basketball unlike Hayward.
Afflalo is a plain looking black dude, just got half of what Hayward is going to get and he's much better than Hayward. I get that he's older, but still.
Hayward is the young, good looking white player that every small market, (white fanbase) team wants. Lance is way better than Hayward and nobody is lining up to give him the max.
:lol :lol :lol :roll:
WHAT?! he average plain jane
El Kabong
07-09-2014, 11:11 AM
Because Hayward is a free agent in a buyers market and Affalo isn't. Too many teams, with too much free money and they've got to spend it somewhere, so Hayward, who is probably a $9-$10 million player at most, suddenly becomes a MAX guy. It's what he and his agent were betting on when they couldn't work out an extension with the Jazz during the year.
chocolatethunder
07-09-2014, 11:12 AM
:lol :lol :lol :roll:
WHAT?! he average plain jane
No, he's weird lookin and kinda ugly.
chocolatethunder
07-09-2014, 11:24 AM
Eh kinda, but he's actually good at basketball unlike Hayward.
Afflalo is a plain looking black dude, just got half of what Hayward is going to get and he's much better than Hayward. I get that he's older, but still.
Hayward is the young, good looking white player that every small market, (white fanbase) team wants. Lance is way better than Hayward and nobody is lining up to give him the max.
Cool. So why did Avery Bradley and Channing Frye get $8mil/yr? Or Iguodala get a max deal? Or Joe Johnson? Give me a break. Please tell me about the max deal Kirk Heinrich got, or all those other white guys who have gotten paid max deals for being white. The only white dudes who get overpaid historically are big men who are all overpaid. Young black dudes get paid on "potential" and for being "athletic" but white guys get paid for being white. Gotcha.
JohnMax
07-09-2014, 11:32 AM
I created this thread on another messageboard. They explained everything very well.
Hint = Afflalo's contract is from a long time ago where he was not as good as he is now.
http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/how-come-hayward-is-getting-a-max-but-afflalo-gets-7-5-million-2094629/
GimmeThat
07-09-2014, 11:54 AM
Cool. So why did Avery Bradley and Channing Frye get $8mil/yr? Or Iguodala get a max deal? Or Joe Johnson? Give me a break. Please tell me about the max deal Kirk Heinrich got, or all those other white guys who have gotten paid max deals for being white. The only white dudes who get overpaid historically are big men who are all overpaid. Young black dudes get paid on "potential" and for being "athletic" but white guys get paid for being white. Gotcha.
6'5" is a pretty good height for a SG.
his ability to put on weights without reducing much athleticism (not reaching his natural weight until at a later age) is probably what made him underpaid when he signed that contract.
so if a 16 yrs old high school baller all of a sudden grows 4-5inches in his senior year. how would a college recruiting scout even evalute them?
El Kabong
07-09-2014, 11:57 AM
And the way the Jazz are looking at it is "We'd gladly pay him $48 million over 4 years, so $63 million is only $3-$4 million a year more, which isn't enough to persuade us not to keep him".
AnaheimLakers24
07-09-2014, 12:07 PM
Eh kinda, but he's actually good at basketball unlike Hayward.
Afflalo is a plain looking black dude, just got half of what Hayward is going to get and he's much better than Hayward. I get that he's older, but still.
Hayward is the young, good looking white player that every small market, (white fanbase) team wants. Lance is way better than Hayward and nobody is lining up to give him the max.
atl has some stupid motha****as
NugzFan
07-09-2014, 12:09 PM
This plus Denver is acting cheap.
Explain.
DMAVS41
07-09-2014, 12:51 PM
Next year Afflalo is going to get paid as well.
NumberSix
07-09-2014, 12:54 PM
White privilege.
JellyBean
07-09-2014, 01:54 PM
:confusedshrug: I do know that, to borrow this phrase from Stephen A. Smith, Aaron Afflalo is a baaaaaad dude.
Levity
07-09-2014, 02:09 PM
I created this thread on another messageboard. They explained everything very well.
Hint = Afflalo's contract is from a long time ago where he was not as good as he is now.
http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/how-come-hayward-is-getting-a-max-but-afflalo-gets-7-5-million-2094629/
its crazy that people simply cant turn on their brain to figure that out.
fatboy11
07-09-2014, 02:14 PM
Prob because one is 30 and is as good as he's gonna get and one is 24 or however old he is and is thought of as not having reached his potential yet.
All that needs to be said pretty much.
Comes down to age and perceived upside. Afflalo doesn't figure to get much better while Hayward is just coming off his rookie deal.
Arron Afflalo was averaging 8.8 PPG at Hayward's age, so it's justifiable to consider Hayward as having more upside.
hawksdogsbraves
07-09-2014, 02:18 PM
Yeah, I might've reached on this one...
jimmy77x
07-09-2014, 02:18 PM
Prob because one is 30 and is as good as he's gonna get and one is 24 or however old he is and is thought of as not having reached his potential yet.
When did Afflalo age 2 years?
kentatm
07-09-2014, 02:22 PM
Yeah, I might've reached on this one...
:facepalm
reached?
dude, you just revealed yourself to kind of racist.
you need to go work on yourself brah.
hawksdogsbraves
07-09-2014, 02:24 PM
:facepalm
reached?
dude, you just revealed yourself to kind of racist.
you need to go work on yourself brah.
Worst thing is, I'm white :oldlol:
fatboy11
07-09-2014, 02:37 PM
When did Afflalo age 2 years?
He'll be 29 when the season starts. He's on the same block.
morbius
07-09-2014, 02:40 PM
you trying to tell me I'm running out of time on being white?
Being white is awesome, you should really try it sometime. Seriously, if you're not white, you're missing out. :pimp:
pastis
07-09-2014, 02:41 PM
haha hayworst getting thr max. classic nba. just classic.
so right know dirk, duncan and kobe are worth 100 mio a year.
Nastradamus
07-09-2014, 03:05 PM
Hayward can create for himself and others. Affllalo is an off the ball player. His D is overrated too IMO. Poor defensive rating every year of his career, across different teams,and only .5 steals a game. Steals aren't everything, I get it, but just being active on D consistently will lead to more than .5.
Xiao Yao You
07-09-2014, 06:06 PM
haha hayworst getting thr max. classic nba. just classic.
so right know dirk, duncan and kobe are worth 100 mio a year.
Kobe isn't worth shit if he can't even get out on the floor.:rolleyes:
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