BREAKING: Nets, Celtics, and Cavs make a trade!

[bagelred]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 2m

Three-team trade will see Nets acquire Jarrett Jack and Sergey Karasev from Cleveland. Boston gets Thornton, Zeller and a first
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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4m

Boston is third team in deal will acquire Tyler Zeller from Cleveland as well as future first-rounder and Marcus Thornton from Nets
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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4m

ESPN sources say Brooklyn Nets on verge of acquiring Jarrett Jack from Cleveland in three-team deal

It's a twade



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[Real14]

Nets got raped. Who the Cavs get?

[bagelred]

I think Cavs trying to clear cap space I guess.

[Godzuki]

i was thinking Al Thornton....wonder what happened to that guy.

[-Lebron23-]

Nets got raped. Who the Cavs get?
Just cap space it seems

[bagelred]

Cavs gonna be disappoint when Lebron stays in Miami

[Xover]

Nets got raped. Who the Cavs get?


Cavs get Lebron

[bagelred]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 2m

3-team trade involving Cavs, Celtics & Nets could allow Cavs to open about $24M in cap space. LeBron max is $20.7M

Dat space

[bagelred]

Nets just adding to the misery.

[DukeDelonte13]

Zeller is a very good piece, a solid backup C that's going to be in the league a long time.


Karasev is a wildcard. Rich pedigree. Great vision, iq and shooting, kinda on the skinny side though.

[UConnCeltics]

So basically Boston only took on contracts? With a first? Great job Danny.

[-Lebron23-]

So WTF are the Nets doing? Are they still in win-now mode? :facepalm

[Dr. Ice]

I dont even know what to say about the nets anymore. Just...wow.

I feel like they do things just so their name can pop up in the media

[bagelred]

I dont even know what to say about the nets anymore. Just...wow.

That's all there is to say...Where VC3 at?

[FlawlessVictory]

Delighted :) Love this for the Celtics. Zeller is no world beater but he is very solid and Id be happy to start him this season at C. Future first never hurts as well. Thornton will barely play i'd say.

[BigTicket]

If the Cavs front office have confidence that they can get Lebron, then this is a good trade. If they are just doing this as a long shot to try to get Lebron, then I think it is too much to give up. Zeller is a decent backup, and there's the 1st round pick as well ...

[NattyPButter]

damn just when I was liking Zeller.

[kidd2dwill]

That is cavs 1st rounder, not from nets. I like this trade.

[NattyPButter]

damn the team has no center besides AV and Haywood. Now the team is really weak at the center position.

[Haymaker]

So the Celtics have how many guards now? Are they the Timberwolves of SG's?

[BigTicket]

Anyone know which 1st round pick the Cavs are trading ? They have three 1st round picks next year, their own, the Grizzlies' pick and the Heat's pick.

Would be hilarious if the Cavs traded the Heat's pick to clear space for Lebron :lol

On the other hand if the Cavs do get Lebron, then the Heat's 1st round pick would be a lot more valuable than the their own pick.

[-Lebron23-]

Danny Ainge is laughing hard at Pat Riley right now :oldlol:

[BurningHammer]

Cavs really want Bron back?

[Nets fan 93]

So WTF are the Nets doing? Are they still in win-now mode? :facepalm
It's hard not to be with KG staying. And the value of everyone dropping as much as it did.

How do the nets get raped? It was supposed to be just jack. Somehow they get sergey karasev as well?

[Rubio2Gasol]

That is cavs 1st rounder, not from nets. I like this trade.

:biggums:

Cleveland :oldlol:

If they don't get Bron and Kyrie gets injured again :lol

[FlawlessVictory]

Boston gets: Marcus Thornton-Tyler Zeller, Cavs 2016 protected pick. Top 10 in '16, '17 or '18. Unprotected in '19.

According to WOJ.

Very valuable pick if LeBron stays in Miami - if not and he goes to the Cavs, probably in the 25-30 range in 2016.

Fantastic trade from the Celtics - Ainge has assets coming out of his arse now. Something has to be afoot.

[DukeDelonte13]

damn the team has no center besides AV and Haywood. Now the team is really weak at the center position.


TT can play C and I think he's going to get the bulk of the minutes at that spot next year.

[Heavincent]

damn the team has no center besides AV and Haywood. Now the team is really weak at the center position.

lol Zeller sucks anyway. Who cares?

[Uncle Drew]

In 3-way, Cavs get: Draft rights to Nets prospects: Karaman/Drejer/Bavcic. And cap space -- more than the $20.7M needed -- to sign James.

[Nets fan 93]

In 3-way, Cavs get: Draft rights to Nets prospects: Karaman/Drejer/Bavcic. And cap space -- more than the $20.7M needed -- to sign James.
Damn karaman? :/

[Haymaker]

In 3-way, Cavs get: Draft rights to Nets prospects: Karaman/Drejer/Bavcic. And cap space -- more than the $20.7M needed -- to sign James.

Is it enough to sign both James and Love?

[Uncle Drew]

Not over yet:

@Chris_Broussard: Sources: Cavs pursuing Ray Allen

[El Gato Negro]

That is cavs 1st rounder, not from nets. I like this trade.
protected till 2019

[-Lebron23-]

It's hard not to be with KG staying. And the value of everyone dropping as much as it did.

How do the nets get raped? It was supposed to be just jack. Somehow they get sergey karasev as well?
No, it's not hard at all NOT to be because they have no realistic chance at winning. KG is done as an impact player, Pierce is reportedly seeking $10mill, Blatche is gone, so is Livingston, Deron Williams and Joe Johnson are declining quickly...

With all of the above in mind, they still decide to add salary in exchange for a pick. That's just crazy. It just seems they don't care about the future because neither ownership nor management plan to remain there to endure it.


EDIT: It seems it's the Cavs' pick instead of the Nets', I guess it is not so bad then

[LBJ 23]

In 3-way, Cavs get: Draft rights to Nets prospects: Karaman/Drejer/Bavcic. And cap space -- more than the $20.7M needed -- to sign James.


Didin't they have enough cap space to sign Lebron even before this trade? I thought this trade is clearing space for another heavily payed player.

[BoutPractice]

Not over yet:

@Chris_Broussard: Sources: Cavs pursuing Ray Allen
Is there any way they could be making it more obvious?

[Johnny Jones]

Not over yet:

@Chris_Broussard: Sources: Cavs pursuing Ray Allen
So Broussard is credible now?

[Heavincent]

Not over yet:

@Chris_Broussard: Sources: Cavs pursuing Ray Allen

Sauces tho...

[Sakkreth]

Not over yet:

@Chris_Broussard: Sources: Cavs pursuing Ray Allen
Ok if that's true then it's way too obvious where LBJ is going

[CJ Mustard]

So the Celtics give up ****ing nothing and get Zeller/Thornton and a 1st round pick?

[BoutPractice]

It may be Broussard, but it makes sense within a broader narrative itself supported by credible sources.

[Rondo]

Absolutely genius from the Cavs. Sign Allen knowing LeBron will then follow him. Brilliant business.

[Haymaker]

So the Celtics give up ****ing nothing and get Zeller/Thornton and a 1st round pick AND they helped the Cavs to dismantle the hated Miami Big Three?


Fixed :cheers:

[kidd2dwill]

Damn karaman? :/

cmon man, who cares? :confusedshrug:

[Meticode]

As I stated last night. If LeBron was going to make the Cavs his choice today the very first thing we'd hear about is Jarrett Jack being traded. It has begun.

[Heavincent]

Danny Ainge will get the biggest boner if the Cavs miss out on Bran

[STATUTORY]

:facepalm @ ANYONE still in denial about lebron home coming.

Formality meeting today for an exit interview

[D-Rose]

Cavs must be pursuing Ray b/c he made it well known he wants to play with Bron.

Excellent trade for Boston. Feels like Ainge getting back at Riley a little :oldlol:

Nets are...wow, give no f*cks about salary cap.

Cavs...honestly it's worth it even if LeBron leaves. They have all their important young guys still, lots of cap flexibility, and many more 1st rounders.

[Harison]

If Cavs get Lebron, it was a good trade for all parties involved.

Its interesting Cavs also pursue Ray, who goes where LBJ goes, maybe another tell-tale its going to happen? :confusedshrug:

[dunksby]

The Celts are an elite franchise, great trade for them. You can always bet on a Cleveland pick to deliver and Tyler Zeller will develop into a solid backup for them.

[El Kabong]

So WTF are the Nets doing? Are they still in win-now mode? :facepalm
They don't have any other option. They gave up all their picks, so they can't rebuild through the draft. Atlanta can swap again next year, then the Celtics got dibs on unprotected picks in 2016 and 2018, as well as the Celtics being able to swap in 2017 too. Add in Deron and JJ for $20+ million each for the next couple of years, as well as Lopez at $15 million, they don't have any real financial flexability to sign anyone decent either.

[Meticode]

Jason Lloyd of the ABJ...


Jason Lloyd ‏@JasonLloydABJ 3m
Earlier tweet wasn't clear: #Cavs traded 3 first rounders today for very little. Highly doubt they do it unless they know he's coming back.

Kyrie Irving's reaction:


Brett Poirier NBA ‏@BrettNBA 9m
Kyrie Irving favorited a tweet talking about today's trade and saying it was to create cap space for LeBron.

[Johnny Jones]

Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account
‏@WojYahooNBA
For Cavaliers, there are no assurances on LeBron James -- and Plan B remains free agent Trevor Ariza into part of space, sources tell Yahoo.

[Heavincent]

So there's no way the Cavs would do this unless they are at least 95% sure Bran is coming back, right?

[Derka]

Oh wow, if Miami keeps Lebron I'll kiss Danny Ainge right on the mouth.

If not, I like Zeller on his rookie deal. :applause:

[Meticode]

So there's no way the Cavs would do this unless they are at least 95% sure Bran is coming back, right?
This is the rumor. Even if it falls through it still gives them flexibilty. They didn't give up any huge parts to get this done. They have about $21 to $24 million in free cap space right now.

[Heavincent]

Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account
‏@WojYahooNBA
For Cavaliers, there are no assurances on LeBron James -- and Plan B remains free agent Trevor Ariza into part of space, sources tell Yahoo.

Oh my...I guess not.

Ainge is a mastermind. He might get a free lottery pick.

[Haymaker]

So there's no way the Cavs would do this unless they are at least 95% sure Bran is coming back, right?


Hopefully. Bron would be stupid to stay with old ass Wade in Miami.

[D-Rose]

Oh my...I guess not.

Ainge is a mastermind. He might get a free lottery pick.
We don't know the protections on it yet.

[oh the horror]

Can someone tell me why Billy King still has a job?


What a f*cking mess over there in BK.

[D-Rose]

@Probballdraft 44s
Cavs pursuing Mike Miller per sources

Jeez, LeBron would love to have Ray and Mike.

[Uncle Drew]

Not over again:

Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft
Cavs pursuing Mike Miller per sources.

[Meticode]

Can someone tell me why Billy King still has a job?


What a f*cking mess over there in BK.
:roll:

[Meticode]

Breaking News!


Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft 1m
Cavs pursuing Mike Miller per sources.

[Heavincent]

We don't know the protections on it yet.

Valid point. Didn't see that part.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Nets shed a little bit of salary with this trade and get a really good player in Jack. People have to remember. We were wire to wire with the Heat last season without Brook Lopez. Now that we have him back and some continuity, we will be on top of the east right there with the pacers and possibly bulls.

This is a good trade for the Nets. This euro guy they got is a scrub though.

[Heavincent]

The Cavs are going so ****ing hard right now :lol

[BoutPractice]

So there's no way the Cavs would do this unless they are at least 95% sure Bran is coming back, right?
Nothing is certain until it's written, but things are not looking good for Miami.

Even if LeBron is undecided, the situation is clearly "leaning" Cleveland right now, so the pressure is on Miami to do something big to flip the script.

That's why people are so confident that it's Cleveland. We see all kinds of activity on the Cleveland side, but Cleveland doesn't really need to do anything right now. It's Miami that should be making a huge move today. All Cleveland needs is for Miami not to come up with a spectacular save.

[NattyPButter]

TT can play C and I think he's going to get the bulk of the minutes at that spot next year.

lolz...TT is only good at reboundng. He was getting raped by other teams PF most of this season and you expect him to play agaisnt other teams centers for the bulk of his mins:oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

So the Cavs gave away 3 first rounders (Zeller, Karasev, future) just to unload Jack's contract?

What happens next if James doesn't sign there???

[kidd2dwill]

Can someone tell me why Billy King still has a job?


What a f*cking mess over there in BK.

king sucks, but whats wrong with this trade?

[Heavincent]

lolz...TT is only good at reboundng. He was getting raped by other teams PF most of this season and you expect him to play agaisnt other teams centers for the bulk of his mins:oldlol:

And Zeller was good at...what exactly?

Losing Zeller isn't a big deal.

[Johnny Jones]

Can someone tell me why Billy King still has a job?


What a f*cking mess over there in BK.
:facepalm

[Kingwillball]

Why would Cavs do this unless they knew something or thought they had a GREAT chance at getting LEbron ?

[Meticode]

And Zeller was good at...what exactly?

Losing Zeller isn't a big deal.
Not a big loss. He was a good rebounder, but more important he ran the floor well in transition better than any big-man we had on the team or close to it. He's one of those players that runs up the floor and you don't expect him to beat out everyone and he does.

[StephHamann]

Why would Cavs do this unless they knew something or thought they had a GREAT chance at getting LEbron ?

bran is trolling cleveland again, by talking them into ruining their future

[Hey Yo]

king sucks, but whats wrong with this trade?
Paying Jack 6mil to back up Williams is a bit steep.

[Meticode]

Why would Cavs do this unless they knew something or thought they had a GREAT chance at getting LEbron ?
It give them flexibility as well. They could sign 2-3 great players on the market as well if somehow LeBron falls through.

[Nets fan 93]

cmon man, who cares? :confusedshrug:
True. I heard he was out for the year anyway in his Turkish league

[GimmeThat]

if they could somehow turn Bennet for Bargnani (don't know if NYK gets to save money even if the salary doesn't match and let the trade go through)

they may at least land Chris Bosh
Bosh/Bargnani/Thompson/Varejao
that might be better than the Bulls front court.
it might even be the best front court on the ECF.


then sign a few players like Dante Cunningham/ Crowder
if they don't get to keep Deng


anyone wants to make a case as to why the Cavs may be a better fit for Bosh than the Rockets?

trading former 1st picks sounds fair to me



Edit: playing Lebron at the PF spot, or even try and ask him to play the SF would again really ruin the new coache's offensive play since they now have to play Andy V at Center. and they would be right back at the Mike Brown era of offensive scheme and relying on Lebron's defensive impact on the front court to get past the ECF.

[DaSeba5]

It good move for the Cavs. Even if LeBron doesn't go to Cleveland, they will have the money to sign other guys.

[NattyPButter]

And Zeller was good at...what exactly?

Losing Zeller isn't a big deal.

Zeller made improvements and a lot of us fans were wanting him to take TT mins even at the 4. Hell if he was giving TT's mins and touches he would have done hell of a lot better then TT and gotton more blocks.

[Hey Yo]

It give them flexibility as well. They could sign 2-3 great players on the market as well if somehow LeBron falls through.
Not trying to be a dick, man I want the Cavs to succeed, but whens the last time they signed 1 great FA let alone 2 or 3.

[Geriatric]

Paying Jack 6mil to back up Williams is a bit steep.

I don't think it's going out on a limb to say at the end of next year I expect Jack's production to have been worth his contract more than Williams will have been.

[Johnny Jones]

ESPN Cleveland
‏@ESPNCleveland
.@TheRealTRizzo with a huge rumor: #Cavs have made an offer to the Timberwolves for Kevin Love. Deal includes Andrew Wiggins.

[Rubio2Gasol]

ESPN Cleveland
‏@ESPNCleveland
.@TheRealTRizzo with a huge rumor: #Cavs have made an offer to the Timberwolves for Kevin Love. Deal includes Andrew Wiggins.

:biggums:

[NattyPButter]

ESPN Cleveland
‏@ESPNCleveland
.@TheRealTRizzo with a huge rumor: #Cavs have made an offer to the Timberwolves for Kevin Love. Deal includes Andrew Wiggins.

calling BS

[BoutPractice]

I thought they might be able to get Love without giving up Wiggins, but I guess I was wrong. It seems they're very eager to get their Big 3, so they're pretty soft in negotiations.

And why would it be BS? It's blatantly obvious that they were working on this deal, the question was who they were going to give up.

[Heavincent]

ESPN Cleveland
‏@ESPNCleveland
.@TheRealTRizzo with a huge rumor: #Cavs have made an offer to the Timberwolves for Kevin Love. Deal includes Andrew Wiggins.

:biggums:

Shit is getting real.

[D-Rose]

:biggums:

Shit is getting real.
Don't buy a word Rizzo said. He continually has total BS reports.

[Nets fan 93]

I read the cavs pick is unprotected.

[Johnny Jones]

@SamAmicoFSO 9s
Source says Cavs also "pursuing a big." Won't give names, but hearing from other sources outside organization that "big" is Kevin Love.

Amico is reliable when it comes to Cavs news. If this actually happens.. what a somescreen.

[Uncle Drew]

I read the cavs pick is unprotected.
It's 1-10 protected through 2016, 2017 and 2018.

[Uncle Drew]

ESPN Cleveland
‏@ESPNCleveland
.@TheRealTRizzo with a huge rumor: #Cavs have made an offer to the Timberwolves for Kevin Love. Deal includes Andrew Wiggins.
Rizzo is a hack.

[Heavincent]

Don't buy a word Rizzo said. He continually has total BS reports.

Trust me, I take every report with a grain salt, but there's no doubt the Jack trade set things into motion.

[Carbine]

It really doesn't matter if they give up Wiggins to get Love.

The point is to win. With Kyrie/LeBron/Love......that's the best big three in the league. All at or very close to entering their primes.

[BoutPractice]

Yeah but Amico all but confirmed it.

Although Woj is more tentative regarding the bigger picture:

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

[Nets fan 93]

It's 1-10 protected through 2016, 2017 and 2018.
Ahh gotcha

[LBJ 23]

Shit I don't like Wigging being traded. He is a perfect player to run in tranisition with Lebron.

[Hey Yo]

I don't think it's going out on a limb to say at the end of next year I expect Jack's production to have been worth his contract more than Williams will have been.
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 23m

Nets view Jack as potential starter next to DWill as Livingston did last season. Wanted to get Karasev during last year's draft.

[NattyPButter]

I thought they might be able to get Love without giving up Wiggins, but I guess I was wrong. It seems they're very eager to get their Big 3, so they're pretty soft in negotiations.

And why would it be BS? It's blatantly obvious that they were working on this deal, the question was who they were going to give up.

because they are not going to give up Wiggins. He's the guy to take Lebron's spot once he starts going down hill. You don't give up all your 1st round players and picks just to end up with Vets or guys that can't even get his team into the playoffs. Would end up in the Nets position. Lebron sure isn't getting any younger.

[1~Gibson~1]

Nets add depth. A combo guard, sg/sf, and pf/c

Cavs get lebron and ray allen. Cool.

[NuggetsFan]

@SamAmicoFSO 9s
Source says Cavs also "pursuing a big." Won't give names, but hearing from other sources outside organization that "big" is Kevin Love.

Amico is reliable when it comes to Cavs news. If this actually happens.. what a somescreen.

Faried + Chandler + Foye or whatever depth they without Lawson/Gallo for Wiggins :lol

[Uncle Drew]

@davidaldridgetnt

Sources indicate the Cavs are also in pursuit of free agent James Jones, who can stretch the floor--& just happens to be LeBron favorite.

[GimmeThat]

Tyler Zeller may had been able to average 15+ playing next to Lebron though

that Gordon Hayward effect.

[LBJ 23]

@davidaldridgetnt

Sources indicate the Cavs are also in pursuit of free agent James Jones, who can stretch the floor--& just happens to be LeBron favorite.


Lol why not just bring BIG Z out of retirement aswell :oldlol:

[BoutPractice]

because they are not going to give up Wiggins. He's the guy to take Lebron's spot once he starts going down hill. You don't give up all your 1st round players and picks just to end up with Vets or guys that can't even get his team into the playoffs. Would end up in the Nets position. Lebron sure isn't getting any younger.

Yeah, but we don't know the specifics of the situation/ the negotiation ie how much LeBron is a done deal.

Perhaps they need to get Kevin Love before LeBron confirms, which puts pressure on them.

[salwan]

A 1st rounder, Zeller and an expirer for nothing.

My boy Danny! :rockon: :rockon:

[-Lebron23-]

Plot twist: James Jones, Ray Allen and Mike Miller all sign with Cleveland with the understanding that Lebron will join them shortly after but the Cavs tell Lebron to fvck off at the last minute and sign Bosh and Ariza instead :lol

[Derka]

A 1st rounder, Zeller and an expirer for nothing.

My boy Danny! :rockon: :rockon:
With Love and Rondo unrestricted next year :bowdown:

Edit: at the moment, anyway.

[bagelred]

A 1st rounder, Zeller and an expirer for nothing.

My boy Danny! :rockon: :rockon:

Why would Lebron go back to Cleveland. After how they treated him after they left? They so do NOT deserve it....fairweather fans.

[hawkfan]

A 1st rounder, Zeller and an expirer for nothing.

My boy Danny! :rockon: :rockon:

Danny Ainge doing work.

[BrownEye007]

Why would Lebron go back to Cleveland. After how they treated him after they left? They so do NOT deserve it....fairweather fans.
I don't think you understand what this means.

[Hittin_Shots]

Why would Lebron go back to Cleveland. After how they treated him after they left? They so do NOT deserve it....fairweather fans.

Fair weather fans would of followed him to heat not been angry he left their team... What are you talking about?

[DMV2]

WTF!!! Celtics gave up nothing? :oldlol:

1st RD = Great
Zeller = Good prospect
Thornton = could be a 15 PPG on his best season. He sucked last year though.

[DMAVS41]

Holy crap...if Lebron doesn't got back this is going to be brutal.

[Shade8780]

Celtics got a 1st rounder, Zeller and Thornton for nothing? :roll: :banana:

[ProfessorMurder]

How does Ainge keep getting all these picks? :roll:

Masai Ujiri and Ainge are doing well this offseason.

[The JKidd Kid]

Great trade for the Nets. If they sign and trade Peirce for Barnes, Dudley, Bullock and a first then they could be real contenders for Love or another star.

[Legends66NBA7]

Holy crap...if Lebron doesn't got back this is going to be brutal.

Celtics win this trade comfortably if that's case.

To be honest, I still don't think he goes back.

[navy]

Celtics win this trade comfortably if that's case.

To be honest, I still don't think he goes back.
He's going back. Nike spilled the beans.

[DMAVS41]

Celtics win this trade comfortably if that's case.

To be honest, I still don't think he goes back.

They at least got rid of the Jack deal, but I liked Zeller. And a future first as well?

Jesus.

If Lebron doesn't come back...this shit is going to get ugly fast. Cleveland fans don't deserve this shit if that happens.

[magnax1]

He's going back. Nike spilled the beans.
??

[kaiteng]

Cavs really, really want LeBron back.

[STATUTORY]

Celtics win this trade comfortably if that's case.

To be honest, I still don't think he goes back.

:facepalm dude it already happened

they are just waiting for Lebron to meet with Riley to end it respectfully. Nike is already working on Revive Cleveland campaign

[Dbrog]

Celtics got a 1st rounder, Zeller and Thornton for nothing? :roll: :banana:

Well not really true. They spend all that cap space which most teams aren't willing to just give up right now. Don't get me wrong, it's totally a right place right time type thing but they are taking on all that cap that Cleveland is opening up...and it's pretty significant. I agree that this is perfect trade for them though. Might end up being perfect for cleveland too..we'll see. Nets getting Jack is very good for them.

[CelticBaller]

Lol we got away with robbery

We playoff bound now

[alanLA92]

Ainge raping the Nets in a trade again. :oldlol:

[salwan]

With Love and Rondo unrestricted next year :bowdown:

Edit: at the moment, anyway.
:cheers:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Cavs really, really want LeBron back.
Care to elaborate ...

[kshutts1]

Genius move by Boston. I really like Ainge as a GM.
Nets improved their team. Not sure why people are bashing that move? Karasev is a better player than Thornton, and Jack is a very good PG. One of the best, if not the best, backups in the league.

...and to get those pieces, they gave up only Thornton. Yeah.. really bad move, people.

Cleveland.. I like the attempt. I like what they're trying to accomplish. But what do they have if it doesn't work? They just gave up a 2012, 2013 and a 2016 first round pick, plus the aforementioned "best backup PG".

[Uncle Drew]

Care to elaborate ...
What's there to elaborate on?

[SamuraiSWISH]

What's there to elaborate on?
When, and how did Nike spill the beans?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

When, and how did Nike spill the beans?
They rented out all available billboards in Cleveland according to twitter...

[SamuraiSWISH]

They rented out all available billboards in Cleveland according to twitter...
:applause:

[BrownEye007]

Genius move by Boston. I really like Ainge as a GM.
Nets improved their team. Not sure why people are bashing that move? Karasev is a better player than Thornton, and Jack is a very good PG. One of the best, if not the best, backups in the league.

...and to get those pieces, they gave up only Thornton. Yeah.. really bad move, people.

Cleveland.. I like the attempt. I like what they're trying to accomplish. But what do they have if it doesn't work? They just gave up a 2012, 2013 and a 2016 first round pick, plus the aforementioned "best backup PG".
Giving up the pick sucks but Jack is garbage. I'm going to miss Karasev in 2k also.