FACT: Neither Duncan nor Kobe had HALF the impact on the NBA that LeBron does

[russwest0]

You never once saw these guys dominating ESPN and free agency like this. LeBron has had his own little "LeBron" bar at the bottom of ESPN for weeks now. He has had guys stalking him at his house JUST TO SEE WHATS GOING ON. Hell the dude has a few teams and free agents completely waiting on making moves JUST TO SEE WHAT HE DOES AND WHERE HE GOES.

Neither Duncan nor Kobe ever came close to this level of dominance in or around their prime and THATS A FACT.

Deal with it Lakers and Spurs fans, LeBron is > both of those guys.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

You talk about LeBron more than ESPN does...

[oh the horror]

You've been watching the nba for 4 years eh?

[russwest0]

Proof that LeBron is bigger than the sport of basketball:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1VxoGePE--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18v2ejksnocizpng.png

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--32psQ6Ib--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18u2gtg13e5ropng.png

[MVBallin2K]

That's because Kobe and Duncan never really entertained thought to free agency and have never really had that light on them. Both of them were never really free agents. The closest is when Kobe demanded his trade and that's not exactly free agency.

If Tim Duncan were to decide he didn't want to re-sign with the Spurs and went to another team, I guarantee ESPN would be all over that because of the idea of someone like him leaving a team he's been with for his entire career to an entirely new one. It would be a major sports story breaking up a trio that's been together for a long time.

[MavsSuperFan]

Proof that LeBron is bigger than the sport of basketball:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1VxoGePE--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18v2ejksnocizpng.png
:lol :lol
NHL

[TheReal Kendall]

Which would you rather dominate the media or on the court?

[navy]

You talk about LeBron more than ESPN does...
:oldlol:

[inclinerator]

it's unbelievable the power he has obtained, this didnt happen back in 2010 nobody wanted to play with lebron

[MavsSuperFan]

Proof that LeBron is bigger than the sport of basketball:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1VxoGePE--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18v2ejksnocizpng.png

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--32psQ6Ib--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18u2gtg13e5ropng.png
Kobe :applause: :applause: not even playing much

Tebow:applause: :applause: all that attention while sucking at his sport

[$LakerGold]

Impact? Lebron's just a drama queen.

[Dave3]

Which would you rather dominate the media or on the court?
Exactly...if only LeBron actually dominated basketball...:rolleyes:

[J Shuttlesworth]

You talk about LeBron more than ESPN does...
He just made a thread complaining that LeBronJames.com is down... dude has serious LeBron withdrawal

[russwest0]

:lol :lol
NHL

Just proving my point :lol :lol :lol

LeBron gets more coverage than A WHOLE ENTIRE SPORTS LEAGUE

Tim Duncan will NEVER, EVER be able to say anything even close like that or even hold a CANDLE to LeBron James in that regard.

[TheReal Kendall]

Exactly...if only LeBron actually dominated basketball...:rolleyes:

5 > 2

[Black and White]

Were Duncan or Kobe ever free agents?? or took free agency seriously?

[russwest0]

complaining

I got my own stans making shit up and following me around :roll: :roll: :roll:

I'M THE LEBRON OF ISH :roll: :roll: :roll:

http://i.imgur.com/efPcwsX.gif

[Dave3]

5 > 2
I'm familiar with numbers yes. 1>0, 2>1, 3>2 and so forth. You an elementary school teacher?

[Legends66NBA7]

Were Duncan or Kobe ever free agents?? or took free agency seriously?

They were.

Duncan almost went to Orlando. Bryant almost went to the Clippers.

[Dbrog]

So let me get this straight, if you aren't on constant highlight reels on ESPN, it means you aren't dominant? Also if you are loyal to your team and don't jump from stacked team to stacked team whenever you are a free agent, then ESPN isn't gonna wanna cover your shit. Again, this is a BAD thing? By constantly leaving (remains to be seen if bron will really leave), you are burning team after team. This is commendable? Besides the fact that you probably don't remember it, it was pretty big news when duncan almost teamed up with tmac and when Kobe was basically traded for Deng but he invoked his no trade clause? Fact is, while bron was getting television specials, endless highlights, and his own tab on the crawl, Kobe and Duncan were "dominating" ESPN with winning 5 chips each.

[talkingconch]

Your dumbass realizes that if either of them wanted they couldve held up the league during there primes

[russwest0]

It's also worth noting that neither Duncan or Kobe have as many regular season MVP's as LeBron either.

And if someone can name me any other player in NBA history who received twice as much coverage (from ESPN) as any single sports team in any league at the same time then I'd love to hear it. Because LeBron has got that much coverage for a whole season.

Bigger than the game of basketball.

[jjayfive]

the media loves drama

[Dbrog]

It's also worth noting that neither Duncan or Kobe have as many regular season MVP's as LeBron either.

And if someone can name me ANY other PLAYER in NBA history who received twice as much coverage (from ESPN) as ANY single sports TEAM in ANY league at the same time then I'd love to hear it.

I'd "love to hear it" if you could name me any other player in NBA history who has 4 MVPs and only half that many rings. You want to know why the answer to my question matters? ANSWER: It doesn't! Just like your stupid cherry picked request. U still mad that he basically got swept in the finals twice?

[Dave3]

They were.

Duncan almost went to Orlando.
People forget that Orlando was trying to woo Duncan with the alure of a big 3 of him Tmac and Grant Hill. That would have been amazing to see. Duncan's never played with a guy near as good as McGrady from 2000-2005. If they had teamed up they would've definitely disrupted the Lakers' 3 peat. And then imagine if Hill was healthy...

PS. Props on remembering that. I knew it, but I completely forgot about it and was just gonna agree "yeah, Duncan was never gonna go anywhere..."

[russwest0]

I'd "love to hear it" if you could name me any other player in NBA history who has 4 MVPs and only half that many rings. You want to know why the answer to my question matters? ANSWER: It doesn't! Just like your stupid cherry picked request. U still mad that he basically got swept in the finals twice?

LeBron James has more regular season MVP's than Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant COMBINED.

Not only that, he gets more ESPN coverage than all 30 NHL teams COMBINED and also gets TWICE as much ESPN coverage as any sports team in the world right now.

For those two reasons when people look back on this time of basketball all they are going to remember is LeBron. Therefore LeBron > Kobe and Duncan. Deal with it.

[Dictator]

I could understand Duncan, but Kobe? :biggums:

[Legends66NBA7]

People forget that Orlando was trying to woo Duncan with the alure of a big 3 of him Tmac and Grant Hill. That would have been amazing to see. Duncan's never played with a guy near as good as McGrady from 2000-2005. If they had teamed up they would've definitely disrupted the Lakers' 3 peat. And then imagine if Hill was healthy...

PS. Props on remembering that. I knew it, but I completely forgot about it and was just gonna agree "yeah, Duncan was never gonna go anywhere..."

Yeah, if Hill never has those ankle problems and they all stay healthy... they would have dominated the East. It would have been Magic vs Lakers in the Finals for years to come. Shaq vs Duncan and Kobe vs T-Mac/Hill. Who knows.... could have been something similar to the Celtics vs Lakers in the 80's ?

No problem either, I guess were getting old, we forget this stuff :oldlol: . When Tracy retired, I was trying to remember the time he was a free agent and he was getting a mini-parade at the airport when he landed in Chicago. Benny the Bull was there to greet him and everything, before he finally turned them down to go to Orlando. Also, I think David Robinson had a conversation with Tim during the contract negotiations and ultimately Tim decided to stay in San Antonio.

[Dbrog]

LeBron James has more regular season MVP's than Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant COMBINED.

Not only that, he gets more ESPN coverage than all 30 NHL teams COMBINED and also gets TWICE as much ESPN coverage as any sports team in the world right now.

For those two reasons when people look back on this time of basketball all they are going to remember is LeBron. Therefore LeBron > Kobe and Duncan. Deal with it.

One, you never answered this:

So let me get this straight, if you aren't on constant highlight reels on ESPN, it means you aren't dominant? Also if you are loyal to your team and don't jump from stacked team to stacked team whenever you are a free agent, then ESPN isn't gonna wanna cover your shit. Again, this is a BAD thing? By constantly leaving (remains to be seen if bron will really leave), you are burning team after team. This is commendable? Besides the fact that you probably don't remember it, it was pretty big news when duncan almost teamed up with tmac and when Kobe was basically traded for Deng but he invoked his no trade clause? Fact is, while bron was getting television specials, endless highlights, and his own tab on the crawl, Kobe and Duncan were "dominating" ESPN with winning 5 chips each.

Second, yay congrats! Bron is popular and has more MVPs! What does this get him? Money? yes. Fame? yes. Into the top10? No (or at best border).

He has to show that he can win more. If not he is basically Shaq. A superfreak athlete who never lived up to his potential (which is a really scary statement if you think about it).

[DaSeba5]

To be honest, LeBron has probably just been living his life and everyone else is making every little thing into a sign of what he's going to do. It's not like LeBron is publically trash talking teams and making this highly dramatic. He doesn't have to be in a rush because fans are impatient.

[jstern]

What the OP says is true. Lebron is that good in terms of what he can bring to a team. What he does affects the league, like a Jordan, Bird, etc.


Which would you rather dominate the media or on the court?

This post is so disappointing, because he gives a black and white statement. He's insinuating that you can only do one, when the reality is that Lebron is dominating the media because of how he dominates the sports.

[Dave3]

Yeah, if Hill never has those ankle problems and they all stay healthy... they would have dominated the East. It would have been Magic vs Lakers in the Finals for years to come. Shaq vs Duncan and Kobe vs T-Mac/Hill. Who knows.... could have been something similar to the Celtics vs Lakers in the 80's ?

No problem either, I guess were getting old, we forget this stuff :oldlol: . When Tracy retired, I was trying to remember the time he was a free agent and he was getting a mini-parade at the airport when he landed in Chicago. Benny the Bull was there to greet him and everything, before he finally turned them down to go to Orlando. Also, I think David Robinson had a conversation with Tim during the contract negotiations and ultimately Tim decided to stay in San Antonio.
I didn't actually follow the NBA till 2001, so I missed out on that stuff, but since I followed the season right after I remember it being in a bunch of articles at the time. I was reading one in 2002 (or 2003) right after the Spurs beat the Magic in Orlando on a Duncan game winner, after Tmac had hit the jumper right before which would've been the potential game winner for the Magic, talking about "What could've been..."

[russwest0]

LeBron James has more regular season MVP's than Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant COMBINED.

Not only that, he gets more ESPN coverage than all 30 NHL teams COMBINED and also gets TWICE as much ESPN coverage as any sports team in the world right now.

For those two reasons when people look back on this time of basketball all they are going to remember is LeBron. Therefore LeBron > Kobe and Duncan. Deal with it.

Of course no one addresses this :facepalm

The truth hurts, huh?

[russwest0]

Call me when Duncan or Kobe EVER dominate the media this much:

http://0championships.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/legler-espn.jpg

[fpliii]

russwest0 is a LeBron guy now? :biggums:

[Doctor Rivers]

Thank social media

[Black and White]

They were.

Duncan almost went to Orlando. Bryant almost went to the Clippers.

Shit, sorry I forgot about the Duncan situation. However, the power of social media is so strong now, thats why LeBron has the NBA world on hold, its crazy

[Natureland]

russwest0 is a LeBron guy now? :biggums:
Remember that period when Deuce Bigalow was praising Wilt? :lol

[russwest0]

Call me when Duncan or Kobe EVER dominate the media this much:

http://0championships.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/legler-espn.jpg

Oh, and this is just from a regular season game, mind you.

[fpliii]

Remember that period when Deuce Bigalow was praising Wilt? :lol
lol

[moe94]

russwest0 is a LeBron guy now? :biggums:

He's on his Deuce tip. :coleman:

[T_L_P]

OP's favourite films are Avatar and Titanic. :oldlol:

[russwest0]

Chandler Parsons signs with the Mavs? Put it on the bottom bar.

LeBron takes a shit? NEW SPORTS UPDATE.

LOLOLOLOL can't believe how much in denial you guys are about how much power and dominance this man currently has on the game of basketball.

[russwest0]

OP's favourite films are Avatar and Titanic. :oldlol:

Haven't seen Avatar and Titanic was just okay.

Regardless, where is this coming from? :biggums:

[T_L_P]

Haven't seen Avatar and Titanic was just okay.

Regardless, where is this coming from? :biggums:

Most popular films, according to the numbers.

Isn't LeBron the best because he's so popular/iconic?

[The Choken One]

Duncan > LeBron

Fact.

Kobe > LeBron

Fact. (atm)

[russwest0]

Most popular films, according to the numbers.

Isn't LeBron the best because he's so popular/iconic?

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

Since when is LeBron a film?

I mean yeah, he has his own film if that's what you're getting at.

[nathanjizzle]

is that what lebrons legacy will be known for? are rustling peoples jimmies in free agency? you can have that lebron, you can have that.

[stalkerforlife]

You never once saw these guys dominating ESPN and free agency like this. LeBron has had his own little "LeBron" bar at the bottom of ESPN for weeks now. He has had guys stalking him at his house JUST TO SEE WHATS GOING ON. Hell the dude has a few teams and free agents completely waiting on making moves JUST TO SEE WHAT HE DOES AND WHERE HE GOES.

Neither Duncan nor Kobe ever came close to this level of dominance in or around their prime and THATS A FACT.

Deal with it Lakers and Spurs fans, LeBron is > both of those guys.

I didn't think you were another Lebron D rider.

Lost a little respect for you, bro. Future neg.

[stalkerforlife]

Oh and by the way, Lebron receives more attention because he's a drama queen that holds franchises hostage. Kobe and Duncan are one team stars, you know, the rare kind of stars. There was never any doubt about those two and their greatness. They make stars come to them.

Lebron received so much attention because everyone went into absolute shock that a player of his caliber ran to another team to chase rings in his prime.

[russwest0]

Oh and by the way, Lebron receives more attention because he's a drama queen that holds franchises hostage. Kobe and Duncan are one team stars, you know, the rare kind of stars. There was never any doubt about those two and their greatness. They make stars come to them.

Lebron received so much attention because everyone went into absolute shock that a player of his caliber ran to another team to chase rings in his prime.

This is a decent perspective.

Would you say that LeBron has more MVP's than both of them combined in large part due to the fact that he gets far more media coverage because of his attention demanding ways?

[Taller than CP3]

You're right, Kobe and Duncan never had the same impact because they never left their team YOU DUMB BANDWAGON HOPPING BITCH.

[Nowitness]

But has LeChoke had the impact that KG had? Nah.

[stalkerforlife]

This is a decent perspective.

Would you say that LeBron has more MVP's than both of them combined in large part due to the fact that he gets far more media coverage because of his attention demanding ways?

I'd say the MVP award is a joke if you try and use it as a barometer to measure the greatness of a player. Most of the people that vote for the MVP don't consider the stat stuffing Lebron does in the weakest conference the NBA has ever seen.

[Nowitness]

I'd say the MVP award is a joke if you try and use it as a barometer to measure the greatness of a player. Most of the people that vote for the MVP don't consider the stat stuffing Lebron does in the weakest conference the NBA has ever seen.

The East is stronger than the West. The last time the West was better than the East was maybe 1994/5.

[Rameek]

ESPN is the only media? It is his personal whine fest channel no denying that.

But in most relevant ways I would say Duncan and Kobe outshines him.

[Dbrog]

Of course no one addresses this :facepalm

The truth hurts, huh?

I ALREADY DID like...twice. YOU are the one dodging questions. Still never responded to either of mine.

[jzek]

Manziel and Tebow actually dominate ESPN more than LeBron.

[Anaximandro1]

OP is too young to know

Can the Magic lure Tim Duncan?
(http://www.deseretnews.com/article/753991/Center-court-Orlandos-most-wanted.html?pg=all)

Sunday, April 9 2000

Tim Duncan has become the NBA's dreamboat, No. 1 on everyone's summertime shopping list. Yet one minor problem remains -- he still belongs to the defending champion San Antonio Spurs, who snarl each time the Magic come close.

But there are ways around that problem. You get inventive.The Orlando Magic -- still in a fight to secure the league's most surprising playoff berth -- will get their first and only in-home look at the player they have reconstructed their franchise for in hopes of landing this summer as a free agent.

Local businessman Randy Kopelman, who owns eight Central Florida Dunkin' Donuts franchises, printed 15,000 posters, which his employees distributed outside the arena, encouraging Duncan, who wears No. 21, to come to Orlando.

"A Magical Combo -- 21 plus Dunkin' Donuts," is on the front of the poster. On the back, it reads, "Forget the Alamo, Come to Orlando."

"I can personally promise Tim and his family free coffee and doughnuts for the rest of their lives if he signs with the Magic," Kopelman said from his office Monday. "I tried to change the 'i-n' (in 'Dunkin") to 'a-n,' but the marketing people said there might be a problem."

Although the Magic disavow any involvement in Kopelman's plan -- fearing a tampering charge or salary-cap violation -- they quietly smile when it is mentioned.

Although there are several prominent NBA players becoming free agents this summer, he clearly is the most desirable. He was the most valuable player of the NBA Finals when he led the Spurs to a championship in his second season. He is arguably the most versatile 7-footer in the league, possessing power and finesse -- a soft-spoken, easy-to-coach, almost shy superstar.

"He's just an exceptional basketball player and person," said teammate Sean Elliott. "The guy is a gym rat, and that is not a quality you find in big men. As a general rule of thumb, big men just aren't gym rats, but he is. He loves playing and working at the game."

Despite the allure of having David Robinson as a teammate, Duncan may be leading a team that is fading rapidly because of injury and age problems. The Magic are considerably younger, prepared to rebuild quickly with three first-round draft picks and have enough salary-cap room to land two big-name free agents.

"Tim knows what this organization is about," said Magic forward Monty Williams, a former teammate in San Antonio. "And he knows it's a lot better than the organization he is with. I'll just tell him the truth. It's nothing personal against them (Spurs), but the people here don't cut corners. We've got better facilities, hands down, and Orlando is a better city. We also have the best coach in the league. I can't sway him. I can only tell him the truth."

The Spurs obviously will do everything they can to keep him. Duncan was the focal point of a referendum when the city voted overwhelmingly to build a new arena for the Spurs. Construction is expected to begin this summer


Difference between Duncan and LeBron

Despite the allure of having David Robinson as a teammate, Duncan may be leading a team that is fading rapidly because of injury and age problems. The Magic are considerably younger, prepared to rebuild quickly with three first-round draft picks and have enough salary-cap room to land two big-name free agents.

"Tim knows what this organization is about," said Magic forward Monty Williams, a former teammate in San Antonio. "And he knows it's a lot better than the organization he is with. I'll just tell him the truth. It's nothing personal against them (Spurs), but the people here don't cut corners. We've got better facilities, hands down, and Orlando is a better city. We also have the best coach in the league. I can't sway him. I can only tell him the truth."

-Duncan remained loyal when the Spurs were about to enter rebuild mode, competed against Shaq and Kobe, and won a second title when the Spurs were still rebuilding their team in 2003 ... Tim changed the course of NBA history.

- James chose the easy path.