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Poetry
07-10-2014, 12:23 AM
[I]"[Wade] shot 54.5% from the field in 2013-14.

How good is that?

Well

stalkerforlife
07-10-2014, 12:26 AM
The media, Lebron stans, Lebron himself, etc...they all need a scapegoat when the team fails. Chalmers, Wade, Bosh, Anderson, etc...all whipping boys when the Heat lose.

NEVER Lebon's fault.

Same thing happened in Leaveland.

yeaaaman
07-10-2014, 12:35 AM
That's great I can happily admit he shot extremely well this year but I'm sure some other greats could do the same if they took every other game off and had someone else doing the heavy lifting for them the whole year. Let's put it into context. There's a reason he's never done that before. It's not easy.

SavageMode
07-10-2014, 12:36 AM
All layups... It's sad how through so many years in the league he still doesn't have a consistent go-to J or 3 point shot. Smfh

Poetry
07-10-2014, 12:54 AM
All layups... It's sad how through so many years in the league he still doesn't have a consistent go-to J or 3 point shot. Smfh

From one of the articles above:
[I]
"The natural tendency might be to think that Wade benefited substantially from having played with LeBron James. But the facts tell a very different story. Wade logged 1,775 minutes on the season, of which only 1,161, or 65%, were played alongside James. Both Wade and James shot better than 50% from the floor in those 1,161 minutes, but, oddly, both shot better from the floor when they didn

ThePhantomCreep
07-10-2014, 01:01 AM
LeBron has more than enough help in Miami. He simply isn't as dominant as his pretty statistics would lead you to believe. He's the wing version of Wilt, with a gayer fanbase.

3LiftHeatCurse
07-10-2014, 01:05 AM
Everyone is saying Wade is done, but "done" put up 19/4/5

For a SECOND OPTION to put up 19/4/5 on 54%?

TrueRob
07-10-2014, 01:06 AM
Well, the Heat's problems were mostly on the defensive end this past season. The Big 3 Heat have always been an elite offensive team. Wade regressed defensively.

Bodhi
07-10-2014, 01:09 AM
It's not that hard to put up 54% when you're the second option and you don't shoot 3s

Past his prime Kobe Bryant shot 51% on 2s in 2013 for example and he was the first option

dubeta
07-10-2014, 01:12 AM
the eye test tells me otherwise

Poetry
07-10-2014, 01:26 AM
Past his prime Kobe Bryant shot 51% on 2s in 2013 for example and he was the first option

I think Kobe led the league in post-up efficiency and points produced that year.

outbreak
07-10-2014, 01:28 AM
it's easy to have a high shooting percentage when you get a bail out whistle on every missed lay up.....

TonyMontana
07-10-2014, 01:29 AM
Yet nobody is expressing even the slightest interest in signing him. :roll:

I value what teams do, not by what geeks think.

If Wade could shoot threes, he'd have a lot of suitors, but without that shot he is Evan Turner.

TAZORAC
07-10-2014, 03:52 AM
[QUOTE=Poetry][I]"[Wade] shot 54.5% from the field in 2013-14.

How good is that?

Well

LilEddyCurry
07-10-2014, 04:22 AM
He has Lebron feeding him all those open looks and drawing the defence. He also rested every couple of games... Where was he in the finals??

aj1987
07-10-2014, 05:00 AM
Yet nobody is expressing even the slightest interest in signing him. :roll:

I value what teams do, not by what geeks think.

If Wade could shoot threes, he'd have a lot of suitors, but without that shot he is Evan Turner.
Nobody is looking at him, because he's singing with the Heat. It is pretty much guaranteed that Miami is gonna sing him in a couple of days. Wade's not going anywhere. Players like Shaq, Bosh, LeBron are gonna come and go, but Wade is staying with the Heat till he retires.

Since you value what teams do, how are you gonna feel when the Heat (the team which MADE LeBron) resigns Wade?


He has Lebron feeding him all those open looks and drawing the defence. He also rested every couple of games... Where was he in the finals??
"The natural tendency might be to think that Wade benefited substantially from having played with LeBron James. But the facts tell a very different story. Wade logged 1,775 minutes on the season, of which only 1,161, or 65%, were played alongside James. Both Wade and James shot better than 50% from the floor in those 1,161 minutes, but, oddly, both shot better from the floor when they didn’t play together.

Another natural tendency might be to think he’s cherry-picking easier shots. But you’d be wrong for thinking that. Wade’s 14.1 shot attempts per game ranked him 38th in the league in that category, and 10th at his position. As time marches on, he’s moving progressively further away from the basket – he took the smallest allocation of his shot attempts from inside of five feet in the Big Three era this season, and replaced them with the biggest allocation of shot attempts from between 10 and 20 feet in the Big Three era."


Do you idiots even read?


You'll see how elite Wade is when Lebron doesn't come back and the Heat finish 10th in the EAST.
Yeah, because Kobe wasn't an elite player in '05, right?

Indian guy
07-10-2014, 05:16 AM
The 2 major issues with Wade is that he isn't capable of playing anywhere close to a full season anymore. And you never really know when his body will suddenly start looking old. I mean, for the most part, when he did play, he looked good last season. And then the finals happened. Also, with him constantly needing to be rested, you're jeopardizing a lot of things with him in and out of the lineup(chemistry, homecourt advantage, upsetting LeBron more). He just isn't that reliable as the #2 man on a team with championship aspirations anymore.

wally_world
07-10-2014, 05:27 AM
"still elite", just like Raymond Faton

Breezy
07-10-2014, 06:25 AM
[QUOTE=Poetry][I]"[Wade] shot 54.5% from the field in 2013-14.

How good is that?

Well

Dresta
07-10-2014, 06:40 AM
[QUOTE=Poetry]From one of the articles above:
[I]
"The natural tendency might be to think that Wade benefited substantially from having played with LeBron James. But the facts tell a very different story. Wade logged 1,775 minutes on the season, of which only 1,161, or 65%, were played alongside James. Both Wade and James shot better than 50% from the floor in those 1,161 minutes, but, oddly, both shot better from the floor when they didn

pastis
07-10-2014, 07:08 AM
boring

1. only second option. defense not focused on him
2. layups
3. rested like hell.

/thread

give me kobe everytime over wade

Dresta
07-10-2014, 07:15 AM
boring

1. only second option. defense not focused on him
2. layups
3. rested like hell.

/thread

give me kobe everytime over wade
The fallacies of 1 & 2 have already been shown to be just that. Read the thread in the future before making yourself look like a full-blown retard.

tontoz
07-10-2014, 07:28 AM
Wade's TS of 58.8% was good but hardly historic. Jordan had 4 straight seasons with a TS of 60+ scoring more points.

Reggie Miller's career average TS was 61.4%. Ray Allen beat Wade's TS every year he was with Boston. Allen's career average TS is 58%.

Wade can't shoot 3s and rarely took them which made his FG% look good.

JtotheIzzo
07-10-2014, 07:46 AM
problem with this is that Wade only played when Wade was ready to play, rarely if ever played back to backs and was always rested playing on 54 games or something. also, rarely faced a top defender during the season.

put any prime NBAer in that type of cushy situation and watch their numbers spike.

Not saying he didn't do it, just saying it wasn't as hard as most other NBA player's season.

Breezy
07-10-2014, 07:59 AM
[QUOTE=Poetry]From one of the articles above:
[I]
"The natural tendency might be to think that Wade benefited substantially from having played with LeBron James. But the facts tell a very different story. Wade logged 1,775 minutes on the season, of which only 1,161, or 65%, were played alongside James. Both Wade and James shot better than 50% from the floor in those 1,161 minutes, but, oddly, both shot better from the floor when they didn

knicksman
07-10-2014, 08:16 AM
[QUOTE=Poetry]From one of the articles above:
[I]
"The natural tendency might be to think that Wade benefited substantially from having played with LeBron James. But the facts tell a very different story. Wade logged 1,775 minutes on the season, of which only 1,161, or 65%, were played alongside James. Both Wade and James shot better than 50% from the floor in those 1,161 minutes, [B]but, oddly, both shot better from the floor when they didn

Taller than CP3
07-10-2014, 08:17 AM
A historic season where he vanished in the NBA Finals.

Magic 32
07-10-2014, 08:33 AM
A historic season where he vanished in the NBA Finals.

vanished in the last two games.

Poetry
07-10-2014, 08:35 AM
A historic season where he vanished in the NBA Finals.

It happens :rolleyes:

ZMonkey11
07-10-2014, 09:42 AM
OP kid like the guy fighting to say his wife is still hot when she's only decent looking with a bad personality. And has bad manners. And doesn't get off the couch on Tuesdays and Fridays cause of the weather. Keep it up op, keep it up. I like your spirit.

tpols
07-10-2014, 11:59 AM
:roll:

There goes all those 'he's cherrypicking and benefitting from the mighty Lebron, and Monta Ellis is better than him' bs constantly being spewed by idiotic Bron stans.

Wade and lebron have had 'contests' since they came to Miami on who can have the highest FG.


He's aiming for it.. cant really fault him I guess for picking on weak teams during the regular season. But when his FG goes from 54 in the RS to 43 in the Finals.. its all just fools gold. Just like Lebron going from shooting 58% or whatever last year to 44% in the Finals.. they are just taking extreme advantage of bad teams to pad their numbers.

CelticBaller
07-10-2014, 12:02 PM
"Still elite"

Lol

GimmeThat
07-10-2014, 12:21 PM
OP kid like the guy fighting to say his wife is still hot when she's only decent looking with a bad personality. And has bad manners. And doesn't get off the couch on Tuesdays and Fridays cause of the weather. Keep it up op, keep it up. I like your spirit.


well Elite stars pulls out the gun and gives the opposing position the "bang bang"

others. not so much.

aj1987
07-10-2014, 12:56 PM
Wade and lebron have had 'contests' since they came to Miami on who can have the highest FG.


He's aiming for it.. cant really fault him I guess for picking on weak teams during the regular season. But when his FG goes from 54 in the RS to 43 in the Finals.. its all just fools gold. Just like Lebron going from shooting 58% or whatever last year to 44% in the Finals.. they are just taking extreme advantage of bad teams to pad their numbers.
:facepalm

Wade shot 55/46/85 against the best defense in the NBA in the ECF. Even in the RS, the only teams above .500 who he shot "poorly" (under 50%) against are the Bulls, Spurs, Portland, Bobcats, Raptors and the Grizzlies.

Seriously, why do you guys even post without looking up this shit?

tpols
07-10-2014, 01:52 PM
:facepalm

Wade shot 55/46/85 against the best defense in the NBA in the ECF. Even in the RS, the only teams above .500 who he shot "poorly" (under 50%) against are the Bulls, Spurs, Portland, Bobcats, Raptors and the Grizzlies.

Seriously, why do you guys even post without looking up this shit?

Please explain how he went from shooting 55% against the best defense in the league, and then dropped off a massive 11% from that in the Finals against a worse defensive team..

livinglegend
07-10-2014, 01:55 PM
elite nba star? :oldlol: :oldlol:
He is a good 4th option at this point of his career.

ZMonkey11
07-10-2014, 02:21 PM
:facepalm

Wade shot 55/46/85 against the best defense in the NBA in the ECF. Even in the RS, the only teams above .500 who he shot "poorly" (under 50%) against are the Bulls, Spurs, Portland, Bobcats, Raptors and the Grizzlies.

Seriously, why do you guys even post without looking up this shit?

:violin: I see the teams lining up at DWade's door right now. They all want this "elite" player on their team. In other news, James Johnson just got signed.


well Elite stars pulls out the gun and gives the opposing position the "bang bang"

others. not so much.

I'll be honest, I have no clue what this means.

TylerOO
07-10-2014, 02:22 PM
the eye test tells me otherwise

this. hate stat nerds you freakin dorks

Im Still Ballin
07-10-2014, 02:23 PM
this. hate stat nerds you freakin dorks
This.

****ing nerds these days!

riseagainst
07-10-2014, 02:25 PM
"the eye test tells me otherwise".

:applause: :applause:

us lebron fans only use the eye test.

:rockon:
:bowdown:

Im Still Ballin
07-10-2014, 02:28 PM
"the eye test tells me otherwise".

:applause: :applause:

us lebron fans only use the eye test.

:rockon:
:bowdown:
This.

aj1987
07-10-2014, 02:29 PM
Please explain how he went from shooting 55% against the best defense in the league, and then dropped off a massive 11% from that in the Finals against a worse defensive team..
He played like shit. Bad series. He was still pretty decent in 2 of those games.


I see the teams lining up at DWade's door right now. They all want this "elite" player on their team. In other news, James Johnson just got signed.

Yeah, because Wade wants to leave Miami and play for other teams. :facepalm

Let's not act like he's not gonna get ~$15M per year from the Heat.

GimmeThat
07-10-2014, 02:36 PM
:violin: I see the teams lining up at DWade's door right now. They all want this "elite" player on their team. In other news, James Johnson just got signed.



I'll be honest, I have no clue what this means.


means that those numbers are also numbers off of him creating for himself. while other players may be scrambling for opportunities to score either from coaching/system play or the few mismatches they get throughout the whole game (i.e. 2nd unit)

Dwayne Wade's ability to be a mismatch for opposing guard, in which that includes just about every single starting SG in the league. makes him an Elite Star.

Even with your defensive specialist, or your all NBA teamers, he's going to put up those numbers.

Right, he's also giving you that 5 assist.



If you can build around someone because of their dominant strength in one particular area, they are an elite star.



his winning % won't go down, if teams can have a decent winning % when he's not on the floor, he's going to worth every single bit of that Elite Star money.

GimmeThat
07-10-2014, 02:38 PM
elite nba star? :oldlol: :oldlol:
He is a good 4th option at this point of his career.


on a championship team.

unfortunately, that's one per year
two, on a really good year.

ZMonkey11
07-10-2014, 04:37 PM
He played like shit. Bad series. He was still pretty decent in 2 of those games.


Yeah, because Wade wants to leave Miami and play for other teams. :facepalm

Let's not act like he's not gonna get ~$15M per year from the Heat.

Keep the faith man, keep the faith.