The Rockets are having a disastrous offseason...

[Kidbasketball20]

Losing Asik
Lin
and Parsons


for

......Trevor Ariza?:wtf:


They have just lost ALL of their depth and backup. Lin and Parsons were CRUCIAL parts of the team last season, and Bev is a proven role player who has little to no playmaking ability.

Don't be shocked when they get bounced from the first round again.

[stalkerforlife]

They gave up way too soon. IMO. They had the pieces to contend and possibly win a title. After a little bit of adversity, they gave up on their players. They are slapping Parsons in the face the longer they make him wait.

They may get worse.

[STATUTORY]

Morey is not a competent GM, the guy does not understand the relationship aspect of the job. he really approaches what he doeslikehe's playing Football manager on the mac. armchair GM in a real position of power. Houston never gonna compete

[zoom17]

That's Daryl Morey for you.

[fpliii]

I'm surprised they didn't get Anderson in return for Asik, that was the trade rumor that was going around last year.

Lin leaving is addition by subtraction. I don't think he's a scrub per se, but it wasn't a good fit with McHale. Not that he had to really, but Beverley won't have to watch his back now.

Parsons is gonna hurt, unless they end up with Bosh.

[bluechox2]

parsons won you half those playoff games last season and kept you close in the other half when harden went mia most of the playoffs...how you gonna let him walk

[MiseryCityTexas]

Morey is not a competent GM, the guy does not understand the relationship aspect of the job. he really approaches what he doeslikehe's playing Football manager on the mac. armchair GM in a real position of power. Houston never gonna compete


He openly admits that he treats most of his players like they're replaceable.

[MiseryCityTexas]

parsons won you half those playoff games last season and kept you close in the other half when harden went mia most of the playoffs...how you gonna let him walk

That's a lie. He played like crap in most of them games except for that last game where Lillard eliminated the Rockets

[STATUTORY]

He openly admits that he treats most of his players like they're replaceable.

Yup, if Parsons had any positive feeling towards Morey he could have waited to sign that contract, but my boy didn't extend Morey that courtesey at all cause everyone hate that fat POS

[WhySoInsecure?]

I love watching this unfold. Morey ****ed over the Knicks with Lin and Bulls with Asik and now the Mavs are pulling the same shit on him.

[SwishSquared]

I believe that if/when the Lin trade goes through, they can sign Bosh to max prior to the end of the 72-hour period following Parson's signing of the Mavs' offer sheet (which at earliest could have happened at 12:01 EST today). His cap hit stays the same for the Rockets; Mavs cap space is now tied up until end of this period.

So, if Bosh does sign (Sheridan's been reporting that strong chance LBJ leaves Miami, meaning Bosh heads to Houston in all likelihood), Houston will probably match the Mavs' offer sheet. That means in grand scheme of things they traded Lin, Asik, some future first round pick, and potentially another asset for Bosh. The order of these events allows them to use the MLE to bolster depth.

Although this contract is likely overpaying Parsons for his production, market is so inflated right now it may not be too much of a surprise (didn't Hayward just get full max from Charlotte?). However, given structure of the deal, both Dwight & Parsons could become FAs in 2016, allowing Houston to potentially have some cap flexibility that summer.

[played0ut]

parsons won you half those playoff games last season and kept you close in the other half when harden went mia most of the playoffs...how you gonna let him walk

His smooth, sexy body was too much of a distraction for his teammates.
































nohomo.

[Milbuck]

http://i.imgur.com/O0mb6HX.gif

Despicable team with a despicable GM. Good to see them crumbling.

[MiseryCityTexas]

I love watching this unfold. Morey ****ed over the Knicks with Lin and Bulls with Asik and now the Mavs are pulling the same shit on him.


I'm a diehard Rockets fan, but I can't get mad over karma.

[el gringos]

Bosh signs there Tommorow

They match parsons Tommorow

And in a 3-4 months you realize nick Johnson is what Lin wishes he was. At a 1/10 the price.

[AnaheimLakers24]

they havent lost parsons

[crisoner]

Coward

[KingPush]

Bosh signs there Tommorow

They match parsons Tommorow

And in a 3-4 months you realize nick Johnson is what Lin wishes he was. At a 1/10 the price.
nick johnson is not a point guard :oldlol:

watch you guys send him to the d league a month into the season

[GimmeThat]

Losing Asik
Lin
and Parsons


for

...... a max contract for Chris Bosh? :wtf:


They have just lost ALL of their depth and backup. Lin and Parsons were CRUCIAL parts of the team last season, and Bev is a proven role player who has little to no playmaking ability.

Don't be shocked when they get bounced from the first round again.


so you're saying Lin and Parsons were crucial reasons as to why they got bounced from the first round (don't nessecarily agree with it, but that's what you are saying essentially) unless you still want to blame it on Harden/Dwight/McHale.

Bosh's current ability may be higher than Parsons potential


while we may not be shocked if they get bounced from the first round again.
wouldn't we be shocked if they get past the first round with the same roster?

[Kidbasketball20]

so you're saying Lin and Parsons were crucial reasons as to why they got bounced from the first round (don't nessecarily agree with it, but that's what you are saying essentially) unless you still want to blame it on Harden/Dwight/McHale.

Bosh's current ability may be higher than Parsons potential


while we may not be shocked if they get bounced from the first round again.
wouldn't we be shocked if they get past the first round with the same roster?

Lin and Parsons helped that team tremendously whenever Harden felt like shooting 5 for 18 or decided not to play defense. They play TEAM basketball and Lin despite being completely mismanaged played above average basketball, and great basketball when given free reign.

[oarabbus]

I love watching this unfold. Morey ****ed over the Knicks with Lin and Bulls with Asik and now the Mavs are pulling the same shit on him.

:oldlol: It's beautiful, really.

[el gringos]

nick johnson is not a point guard :oldlol:

watch you guys send him to the d league a month into the season
You read to much and watch too little. Same report on Lin coming in btw

[MJ(Mean John)]

The same team who Waived Jeremy Lin.

Then got rid of Lowry and Dragic to sign Lin AFTER Linsanity.

THEN, trying to get Rid of Lin and get Lowry back.


wtf Houston? We have a problem. His name is NBA 2K GM Idiot over there.

[WTFdidNBAbigsGO]

Morey is not a competent GM, the guy does not understand the relationship aspect of the job. he really approaches what he doeslikehe's playing Football manager on the mac. armchair GM in a real position of power. Houston never gonna compete

hahahahahahaha him and hinkie's geeky ass playing 2k too dam much

[oarabbus]

You read to much and watch too little. Same report on Lin coming in btw


Yeah the Sixers with their incredible depth are clearly going to send Lin to the D league :rolleyes:

[bdreason]

So, if Bosh does sign (Sheridan's been reporting that strong chance LBJ leaves Miami, meaning Bosh heads to Houston in all likelihood), Houston will probably match the Mavs' offer sheet. That means in grand scheme of things they traded Lin, Asik, some future first round pick, and potentially another asset for Bosh. The order of these events allows them to use the MLE to bolster depth.

.


If they MAX Bosh, pay $15m for Parsons, AND use the MLE? That's going to put them way over the luxury tax.

[WeGetRing2012]

Bosh signs there Tommorow

They match parsons Tommorow

And in a 3-4 months you realize nick Johnson is what Lin wishes he was. At a 1/10 the price.

And then Morey will trade him for cap relief to make a run after Rondo in 2015

[oarabbus]

If they MAX Bosh, pay $15m for Parsons, AND use the MLE? That's going to put them way over the luxury tax.



Parsons is gone if they get Bosh. Maybe gone anyways.

[iamgine]

If they sign Bosh they don't need Asik much, especially on that contract. The resurgence of Terrence Jones last season will make the main rotation Bosh - Dwight - Jones. Bring in a solid veteran big to play 10 min a game and they're set.

Parsons can still be matched.

Starters will likely be:

Dwight
Bosh
Parsons
Harden
Bev

That's a very enticing roster for any FA ring chaser, with or without Parsons.




The problem is Kevin Mchale.

[SwishSquared]

If they MAX Bosh, pay $15m for Parsons, AND use the MLE? That's going to put them way over the luxury tax.
Isn't the owner willing to pay luxury tax on a true contender? I always heard that. Anyways, I did rough estimate crunching numbers and they can't offer full MLE (believe if you use full non-tax payer's MLE you're hard-capped at $81M). They can still use part of it though to shore up the bench.

Assuming Covington's not retained, Casspi is waived, DoMo is shipped out (per rumor I saw he may be part of Lin deal), and excluding empty roster holds, that puts them roughly at $77M in commitments (back of envelope arithmetic, so perhaps not 100% accurate). That's roughly the tax line (slightly above it per official numbers, I think). Given all of these moves, I think they still get access non-tax payer's MLE due to being under tax apron. They can use a portion of it, BAE, and vet min exceptions to fill out roster.

Granted, if any of the above 3 players stay a Rocket, that may change some financial planning. However, it's not an awful tax bill, like the horrific one the Nets paid this past season. They should be less than $10M over tax line after all moves are made, right? I know I'm trivializing it, but it's not *terrible.*

[GimmeThat]

Lin and Parsons helped that team tremendously whenever Harden felt like shooting 5 for 18 or decided not to play defense. They play TEAM basketball and Lin despite being completely mismanaged played above average basketball, and great basketball when given free reign.

well, Lin isn't smart enough to teach other players how to pass, run around and find ways to make Harden open up and pass him the ball.

I don't know if he's smart enough to realize that when he is ball dominant, his playing style (given free reign) diminishes Hardens playing style.

[SCdac]

May not be going as planned, but Parsons is not going to make or break them.

Shouldn't get bent out of shape losing him if they can get something similar in return (even if it's at another position).

If they match Parsons, how much are they paying to him, Harden, and Dwight the next 3-4 years? Is he the 3rd option they truly want/need?

[GimmeThat]

If they sign Bosh they don't need Asik much, especially on that contract. The resurgence of Terrence Jones last season will make the main rotation Bosh - Dwight - Jones. Bring in a solid veteran big to play 10 min a game and they're set.

Parsons can still be matched.

Starters will likely be:

Dwight
Bosh
Parsons
Harden
Bev

That's a very enticing roster for any FA ring chaser, with or without Parsons.




The problem is Kevin Mchale.

Harden/Bosh/Dwight/Bev

Byron Scott could probably make some noise with that roster.

[oarabbus]

well, Lin isn't smart enough to teach other players how to pass, run around and find ways to make Harden open up and pass him the ball.

I don't know if he's smart enough to realize that when he is ball dominant, his playing style (given free reign) diminishes Hardens playing style.


:biggums: I hope you aren't serious

[lilteapot]

that's a pretty good trade off, they wanted to get rid of asik for a while, and bosh is a better fit than asik, i liked lin but he kept doing stupid stuff in clutch situations last postseason, and parsons kind of hurts but he's not what made that team.

[UK2K]

Only way Parsons leaves is if they get Bosh... Then Dallas is stuck paying him an absurd salary...

If Bosh doesn't come, Houston pays his absurd salary but keep the same team they had last year, without asik and Lin and with the NO lottery pick.

Diastorous indeed.

[BigTicket]

The real nightmare scenario for the Rockets is if Lebron/Bosh delay more than 3 days before making their decision in Miami. If that happens, do the Rockets wait for Bosh, or do they hurry up and sign Parsons ?

[UK2K]

The real nightmare scenario for the Rockets is if Lebron/Bosh delay more than 3 days before making their decision in Miami. If that happens, do the Rockets wait for Bosh, or do they hurry up and sign Parsons ?
They match and lock Parsons up to a three year deal and use him as trade bait for Love if he's not gone by then.

Parsons+Jones+NO 1st rounder

[Kidbasketball20]

The real nightmare scenario for the Rockets is if Lebron/Bosh delay more than 3 days before making their decision in Miami. If that happens, do the Rockets wait for Bosh, or do they hurry up and sign Parsons ?


I doubt LeBron will hold up the circus till Saturday. But if he does :roll:
I think Houston is forced to match Parsons. Otherwise they aren't even playoff contenders in the West imo.

[paintingshade]

well technically I don't think any of the trades have gone through.

Asik trade going through anyway is likely.

If bosh can't commit we'll match parsons and not trade lin.

It sucks but I like that he's been trying to make the rockets an elite team. They aren't that now. They need to take another step.

Lin isn't very good. Our depth is suspect. But even though things haven't gone our way this offseason doesn't mean we haven't prepared for it.

[UK2K]

I doubt LeBron will hold up the circus till Saturday. But if he does :roll:
I think Houston is forced to match Parsons. Otherwise they aren't even playoff contenders in the West imo.
Not without Parsons or Bosh or adding anyone else, probably not.

But if Bosh doesn't decide and Parsons walks (which he should, that contract is stupid), then the Rockets are sitting on ~20m in cap space and in need of a SF. Not the worst situation in the world.

[lakerfreak]

Asik was bound to be out of there sooner rather than later. He isn't happy taking a back seat to Dwight. He wants to be a starter. No surprises at all there.

The only piece they're willing to deal is Jeremy Lin to create room for a guy like Bosh or Anthony. The only thing that the rockets would hate losing is Parsons. They could still very well match that. They just need to hope Bosh decides to come to them. He's a great third option to have and he's taken a back seat for 4 years. He won't mind playing third fiddle next to Dwight and Harden.

If they do lose parsons, that's the only hit they'll really take seeing that Asik and Lin were bound to be gone anyways. They disrespected Lin way too much.

[rezznor]

Asik was bound to be out of there sooner rather than later. He isn't happy taking a back seat to Dwight. He wants to be a starter. No surprises at all there.

The only piece they're willing to deal is Jeremy Lin to create room for a guy like Bosh or Anthony. The only thing that the rockets would hate losing is Parsons. They could still very well match that. They just need to hope Bosh decides to come to them. He's a great third option to have and he's taken a back seat for 4 years. He won't mind playing third fiddle next to Dwight and Harden.

If they do lose parsons, that's the only hit they'll really take seeing that Asik and Lin were bound to be gone anyways. They disrespected Lin way too much.
spot on

[strifed169]

**** the Rockets and I hope they end up with a stick in their hands lol

[UK2K]

Just reported if Bosh signs in the next 48 they match Parsons so...

Little premature on the ha ha threads but it gives me a chuckle anyway.

[UK2K]

I take that back Rockets FO hasn't even received Parsons offer sheet yet, so the 72 hours hasn't began, essentially giving Bosh more time and eliminating Dallas from signing any other FA of note, since Parsons 3/46m offer is now on their salary as a cap hold.

Oh Cuban... Amateur hour.

[UK2K]

Just want to make sure we all remember this...

Bahahahaha

Bosh to Houston; Parsons match.

Game over bitches.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Damn, Morey wins this one

[noob cake]

Morey :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[UK2K]

Dallas may as well rescind their offer to Parsons.

Gonna be a lonely offseason for them. And as much as I like Cuban, its what he gets for trying to **** over Houston.

Like I said, amateur hour. Morey is the best GM in the league when it comes to getting what he wants.

[Jailblazers7]

Dallas may as well rescind their offer to Parsons.

Gonna be a lonely offseason for them. And as much as I like Cuban, its what he gets for trying to **** over Houston.

Like I said, amateur hour. Morey is the best GM in the league when it comes to getting what he wants.

I don't think Cuban was trying to **** the Rockets. He just saw a window of opportunity to land Parsons and he went for it. :confusedshrug:

Either way, things worked out for the Rockets.

[UK2K]

I don't think Cuban was trying to **** the Rockets. He just saw a window of opportunity to land Parsons and he went for it. :confusedshrug:

Either way, things worked out for the Rockets.

He did text something along the lines of 'karma is a bitch' to one of the Houston execs last summer.

I still like the dude though. Most badass owner in the NBA. Too bad he doesnt own Houston, him and Morey would be nasty.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Who takes Jones and Motiejuanas.

[Smook A.]

All thanks to LeBron :cheers:

[UK2K]

Who takes Jones and Motiejuanas.
Jones is worth a 1st round pick...

Rockets fans are high on DMo, but Im not too fond of him. They're easy moves. The biggest question is who takes Lin and how much do they want to take him.

[fatboy11]

I'm surprised they didn't get Anderson in return for Asik, that was the trade rumor that was going around last year.

Lin leaving is addition by subtraction. I don't think he's a scrub per se, but it wasn't a good fit with McHale. Not that he had to really, but Beverley won't have to watch his back now.

Parsons is gonna hurt, unless they end up with Bosh.

Why would not getting Anderson back for Asik surprise you when the sole reason for that trade was to shed salary??

[Rocketswin2013]

Lmao

[Rubio2Gasol]

Just want to make sure we all remember this...

Bahahahaha

Bosh to Houston; Parsons match.

Game over bitches.

First round exit: Priceless.

[fatboy11]

First round exit: Priceless.

Minnesota fan?

Yeah, okay...

[YouGotServed]

:kobe:

[Rubio2Gasol]

Minnesota fan?

Yeah, okay...
:coleman:

I'm a Minnesota fan?

[el gringos]

Who takes Jones and Motiejuanas.
Knicks

[UK2K]

First round exit: Priceless.
Wanna put money on that?
Or do you mean last season?:lol

[ronnymac]

Turned scrub lin and Asik into Bosh and will keep Parsons. Real bad.

[UK2K]

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So Rockets have lined up their trades for Asik and Lin and, according to sources, are inching to the brink of a commitment from Chris Bosh

[Kidbasketball20]

So this offseason they lost Asik and Lin

and overpaid for Parsons

and kept McHale

and missed out on LeBron/Melo/Bosh

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Milbuck]

So this offseason they lost Asik and Lin

and overpaid for Parsons

and kept McHale

and missed out on LeBron/Melo/Bosh

:roll: :roll: :roll:
http://i.imgur.com/4dVqhUm.png

[AirTupac]

Turned scrub lin and Asik into Bosh and will keep Parsons. Real bad.

Lost Asik + Lin + First found pick + future draft considerations

Overpaid Parsons

Real Bad indeed :oldlol:

[Jacks3]

So this offseason they lost Asik and Lin

and overpaid for Parsons

and kept McHale

and missed out on LeBron/Melo/Bosh

:roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[oarabbus]

Just reported if Bosh signs in the next 48 they match Parsons so...

Little premature on the ha ha threads but it gives me a chuckle anyway.


Turned scrub lin and Asik into Bosh and will keep Parsons. Real bad.



I take that back Rockets FO hasn't even received Parsons offer sheet yet, so the 72 hours hasn't began, essentially giving Bosh more time and eliminating Dallas from signing any other FA of note, since Parsons 3/46m offer is now on their salary as a cap hold.

Oh Cuban... Amateur hour.


Just want to make sure we all remember this...

Bahahahaha

Bosh to Houston; Parsons match.

Game over bitches.


Dallas may as well rescind their offer to Parsons.

Gonna be a lonely offseason for them. And as much as I like Cuban, its what he gets for trying to **** over Houston.

Like I said, amateur hour. Morey is the best GM in the league when it comes to getting what he wants.


http://i.imgur.com/4dVqhUm.png



:roll: :lol :oldlol: :roll: :lol :oldlol:

http://i.imgur.com/4dVqhUm.png

[KungFuJoe]

U2K2 and Smook probably crying in each other's shoulders right now.

[brantonli]

man I'm still so pissed at Bosh doing a 180 and heading back to Miami. The Rockets FO must be scrambling for the next deal now, what next, they go back to wooing Carmelo again, or try to enter the Love sweepstakes having traded 2 of the assets away?

[Kidbasketball20]

They spent ALL of last season holding onto Lin/Asik in order to go after a big name and claiming they were both going to be used for a major deal involving a Big 3.


And now they just lost them for NOTHING.

[Kidbasketball20]

LOL at the fact that they could have kept Asik, Lin, and Parsons all on the team this season and worried about cap/trade issues at the deadline or next season.


Instead they took a gamble and ended up with Trevor Ariza. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Mr Exlax]

I wouldn't say disastrous. We still have Harden and Howard. That right there is better than a lot of teams in the NBA. Morey took a gamble and lost. Shit happens. He got us Harden and Dwight. I wish we could have done better but we're still gonna be OK. We ain't sniffing championship until we get a coach.

[brantonli]

yep no going to lie, this offseason is much worse than anticipated. We essentially jettisoned Asik, Lin, Parsons, for Trevor Ariza? WTF

[strifed169]

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2i9sd43.jpg
:lol :lol

[UK2K]

yep no going to lie, this offseason is much worse than anticipated. We essentially jettisoned Asik, Lin, Parsons, for Trevor Ariza? WTF
Like I said in another thread...

We were in a position to contend for a title had Bosh not chased money.

We lost Parsons because he was offered about 5m more than he was worth, replaced him with Ariza for half the price, and we got rid of two disgruntled role players , one of which only played half a season, freeing up 16m in cap space and snagged a lotto pick in the process.

Wasn't as good as it could have been, but disastrous isn't the word I'd use. It may not be what we wanted, but with another signing or two, this team could net the same amount of wins as last year.

If we kept the cap space and add nobody else, it would be a disappointment. As it stands now I'll reserve judgment until the season begins.

[oarabbus]

Like I said in another thread...

We were in a position to contend for a title had Bosh not chased money.

We lost Parsons because he was offered about 5m more than he was worth, replaced him with Ariza for half the price, and we got rid of two disgruntled role players , one of which only played half a season, freeing up 16m in cap space and snagged a lotto pick in the process.

Wasn't as good as it could have been, but disastrous isn't the word I'd use. It may not be what we wanted, but with another signing or two, this team could net the same amount of wins as last year.

If we kept the cap space and add nobody else, it would be a disappointment. As it stands now I'll reserve judgment until the season begins.


:biggums:

You have no depth at G nor do you have big men depth as of this offseason and you won't be getting any.


The Rockets are not expected to seek free agency deals with the remaining high-priced restricted free agents such as Greg Monroe and Eric Bledsoe, looking instead to sign players to short-term contracts in order to keep their flexibility for next summer.

With an agreement to bring back Trevor Ariza to play Parsons’ small forward position, the Rockets hoped to immediately upgrade their defense while seeking to develop young starters Terrence Jones and Pat Beverley.

Even with Ariza, however, the loss of Parsons represents a major blow, with the Rockets also dealing Jeremy Lin and finalizing negotiations on the trade of Omer Asik in the name of cap space they had hoped to use on a third-signature star.

Rockets got fcuked hardcore, a blind man can see it

[UK2K]

:biggums:

You have no depth at G nor do you have big men depth as of this offseason and you won't be getting any.



Rockets got fcuked hardcore, a blind man can see it

They lost a three role players. They have space. We'll see in about two weeks where they stand.