If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

[rule1223]

ring chasing is the easiest way to win a ring, without a doubt any of the top 100 players in nba history couldve won a ring if they ring chased, especially if they did it in their prime, if he returns to cleveland, the value of his rings are gonna drop even lower than their current value, which arent that high to begin with

[STATUTORY]

Lebron's a barnacle, leeching off other stars

first he frenemied Wade and Bosh and used them

now that they are washed up, he's bout to do the same to wiggins and kyrie

[Magic 32]

http://s9.postimg.org/8m6yjwnn3/desert_locust.jpg

[lakerfreak]

ring chasing is the easiest way to win a ring, without a doubt any of the top 100 players in nba history couldve won a ring if they ring chased, especially if they did it in their prime, if he returns to cleveland, the value of his rings are gonna drop even lower than their current value, which arent that high to begin with

Its hard to say with him because he's the best player in the league. Normally ring chasers go to teams that are already stacked. When you look at the NBA now, that big three doesn't seem like it is the clear cut best of all other teams' core players. Lebron was eventually carrying everyone else.

At the same time, I'd always felt if he was going to leave the heat, his only move he could make without his legacy being completely destroyed was Cleveland. It is definitely his home.

Bottom line, I think he does want to win a bunch of rings, which is okay. But because of the situation of possibly going to his home, and the team that drafted him in the first place, some will argue that it was somehow a coincidence.

[ZHAKIDD532]

What's wrong with being a ring chaser. If he stayed in Cleveland originally and took the money, we'd say he doesn't care about winning. If he goes to a team that has a good chance to win, you bash him anyway.

There's literally nothing that he could do that people wouldn't find something to bash him for.

[edrick]

ring chasing is the easiest way to win a ring, without a doubt any of the top 100 players in nba history couldve won a ring if they ring chased, especially if they did it in their prime, if he returns to cleveland, the value of his rings are gonna drop even lower than their current value, which arent that high to begin with

It's easy to say that. Especially if you are a fan of a team that players actually want to go to. Who in the hell wants to play in Cleveland? Nobody.

[Goldrush25]

ring chasing is the easiest way to win a ring, without a doubt any of the top 100 players in nba history couldve won a ring if they ring chased, especially if they did it in their prime, if he returns to cleveland, the value of his rings are gonna drop even lower than their current value, which arent that high to begin with

But he's less likely to win in Cleveland.:confusedshrug:

I get the agenda of people like you though. No matter what he does at this point it's going to be wrong in your eyes. Message received.:oldlol:

[GimmeThat]

you could say he pursued


it wasn't there before he got there

[tmacattack33]

Cleveland won 30 games last year bro.

Ring chasing my azz.

Basically any team Lebron goes to will be a contender. So I guess he'd be a ring chaser no matter where he went, because he's just that damn good.

[Meticode]

Same people that say he's a ring chaser going to Cleveland are the same people later that would said he had no chance of winning a ring in Cleveland. Ironic.

[STATUTORY]

Same people that say he's a ring chaser going to Cleveland are the same people later that would said he had no chance of winning a ring in Cleveland. Ironic.

how are the situation at all comparable? he left and waited till Cleveland got muthafu@cking STACKED

[moe94]

Lebron's a barnacle, leeching off other stars

first he frenemied Wade and Bosh and used them

now that they are washed up, he's bout to do the same to wiggins and kyrie

Didn't you make threads about how going to the Cavs would help his legacy and how it's a good thing? :rolleyes:

[STATUTORY]

Didn't you make threads about how going to the Cavs would help his legacy and how it's a good thing? :rolleyes:
they are not mutually exclusive statements

it will improve his legacy with casual fans and mass media, but not discerning fans like me with keen penetrating psychological insights

I saw his ghetto ass coming miles away ni99a

[moe94]

how are the situation at all comparable? he left and waited till Cleveland got muthafu@cking STACKED

Stacked? It's nowhere near stacked. How is it stacked? They were a putrid team that added the number 1 pick who clearly isn't going to dominate right away. Are you saying Wiggins makes them stacked? :oldlol:

[moe94]

they are not mutually exclusive statements

it will improve his legacy with casual fans and mass media, but not discerning fans like me with keen penetrating psychological insights

I saw his ghetto ass coming miles away ni99a

You're a funny dude sometimes.

[tmacattack33]

how are the situation at all comparable? he left and waited till Cleveland got muthafu@cking STACKED

:oldlol:

[Goldrush25]

how are the situation at all comparable? he left and waited till Cleveland got muthafu@cking STACKED


So Kyrie Irving and a 19 year old unproven draft pick is stacked now?:facepalm

[STATUTORY]

Stacked? It's nowhere near stacked. How is it stacked? They were a putrid team that added the number 1 pick who clearly isn't going to dominate right away. Are you saying Wiggins makes them stacked? :oldlol:

Kyrie
Waiters
Wiggins
Thompson
Verejao

with superior european tactician in Blatt coaching.. that's not a top 4 seed in the east?! :biggums:

[moe94]

Kyrie
Waiters
Wiggins
Thompson
Verejao

with superior european tactician in Blatt coaching.. that's not a top 4 seed in the east?! :biggums:

So top 4 seed in a putrid conference is stacked, especially when it's not even a reality but a prediction? :applause:

Pray tell, what are the Clippers?

[NumberSix]

Does anyone dispute that LeBron went to Miami to win titles?

[Sarcastic]

Kyrie
Waiters
Wiggins
Thompson
Verejao

with superior european tactician in Blatt coaching.. that's not a top 4 seed in the east?! :biggums:


You didn't even include Bennett :wtf:

[STATUTORY]

You didn't even include Bennett :wtf:
too stacked

[pauk]

If he was leeching off of a championship team sure, especially if he was just a sidekick aswell or worse there... but coming to a team that was much worse than his, a team which either missed the playoffs or lost in 1st round since 2006 and put it on his back instantly turning it into a championship team, 4 straight finals and 2 championships... and THEN come back to Cleveland in 2014 which was a horrible team everyday since his very departure in 2009 and most probably turn it into a championship team aswell, just like that.... sorry.... no... thats not a ring chaser.... more like arguably the most impactful player perhaps ever....

[GimmeThat]

Kyrie
Waiters
Wiggins
Thompson
Verejao

with superior european tactician in Blatt coaching.. that's not a top 4 seed in the east?! :biggums:

nope. Wiggins will at least take 1 if not 2 seasons to get used to the NBA schedule.

[STATUTORY]

If he was leeching off of a championship team sure, especially if he was just a sidekick aswell or worse there... but coming to a team that was much worse than his, a team which either missed the playoffs or lost in 1st round since 2006 and put it on his back instantly turning it into a championship team, 4 straight finals and 2 championships... and THEN come back to Cleveland in 2014 which was a horrible team everyday since his very departure in 2009 and most probably turn it into a championship team aswell, just like that.... sorry.... no... thats not a ring chaser.... more like arguably the most impactful player perhaps ever....
look at this agenda spouting stan :roll: :roll: :facepalm

[Roundball_Rock]

If he was leeching off of a championship team sure, especially if he was just a sidekick aswell or worse there... but coming to a team that was much worse than his, a team which either missed the playoffs or lost in 1st round since 2006 and put it on his back instantly turning it into a championship team, 4 straight finals and 2 championships... and THEN come back to Cleveland in 2014 which was a horrible team everyday since his very departure in 2009 and most probably turn it into a championship team aswell, just like that.... sorry.... no... thats not a ring chaser.... more like arguably the most impactful player perhaps ever....

:applause:

Going to Cleveland is not ring chasing. If he went to the Clippers, Bulls or Houston that would be ring chasing but he is, reportedly, joining a 33 win team that has not even sniffed the playoffs since he left. It has young talent and has a better core than Miami, but if his objective is to chase rings, among teams that could sign him, LAC, HOU, CHI are his best bets (in no order) and several more teams like DAL and PHX are better options than Cleveland.

[STATUTORY]

:applause:

Going to Cleveland is not ring chasing. If he went to the Clippers, Bulls or Houston that would be ring chasing but he is, reportedly, joining a 33 win team that has not even sniffed the playoffs since he left. It has young talent and has a better core than Miami, but if his objective is to chase rings, among teams that could sign him, LAC, HOU, CHI are his best bets (in no order) and several more teams like DAL and PHX are better options than Cleveland.
but he would be seen as a mercenary if he went to a third team. winning in cleveland is the only way to truly magnify his legacy

ni99a is shrewd as hell

[Roundball_Rock]

You are right that he would receive flack for going anywhere else, but it does show he is not simply a ring chaser. The only thing Cleveland is #1 in is in its marketing potential for him, which goes to your shrewd point. LeBron's popularity never rebounded to its pre-Decision level. Returning to Cleveland could repair that--and perhaps winning there could propel him to an even higher level of popularity. The narrative would be too good if LeBron is in the Finals with Cleveland. Other than fans of the opposing team and LeBron haters, who would be rooting against him?

[SouBeachTalents]

What's wrong with being a ring chaser. If he stayed in Cleveland originally and took the money, we'd say he doesn't care about winning. If he goes to a team that has a good chance to win, you bash him anyway.

There's literally nothing that he could do that people wouldn't find something to bash him for.

This. LeBron could cure cancer and people would bitch it took him until 30 to do so

[k0kakw0rld]

ring chasing is the easiest way to win a ring, without a doubt any of the top 100 players in nba history couldve won a ring if they ring chased, especially if they did it in their prime, if he returns to cleveland, the value of his rings are gonna drop even lower than their current value, which arent that high to begin with
Barkley did and failed

[GimmeThat]

This. LeBron could cure cancer and people would bitch it took him until 30 to do so

of course, you know how many people are dying of causes outside of cancer?

[SouBeachTalents]

of course, you know how many people are dying of causes outside of cancer?

That too, then they'd complain people are still dying from other illnesses, accidents, old age etc.

[LBJ4MVP23]

It would 100% make him a ring chaser, but people will be able to spin that it was because he wanted to bring a ring to cleveland and fulfill a promise or whatever other bs narrative.

[SamuraiSWISH]

You are right that he would receive flack for going anywhere else, but it does show he is not simply a ring chaser. The only thing Cleveland is #1 in is in its marketing potential for him, which goes to your shrewd point. LeBron's popularity never rebounded to its pre-Decision level. Returning to Cleveland could repair that--and perhaps winning there could propel him to an even higher level of popularity. The narrative would be too good if LeBron is in the Finals with Cleveland. Other than fans of the opposing team and LeBron haters, who would be rooting against him?
:applause:

Simba needed to leave, form an alliance with Timon and Pumbaa (Wade/Bosh) before storming back a changed man to reclaim the pride lands.

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/quiz/432000/432788_1277445534914_467_300.jpg

[moe94]

But Simba came back with Timon and Pumba.

[SamuraiSWISH]

But Simba came back with Timon and Pumba.
They just represent help. Cavs have that now. Playmakers besides himself, right?

[Hey Yo]

ring chasing is the easiest way to win a ring, without a doubt any of the top 100 players in nba history couldve won a ring if they ring chased, especially if they did it in their prime, if he returns to cleveland, the value of his rings are gonna drop even lower than their current value, which arent that high to begin with
Free agency didn't start in the NBA until the summer of 1988.

So no, not all top 100 players could ring chase in their prime.

[Hey Yo]

The Cavs have been to 1 finals in their 44yr existence and by going there means he's ring chasing.

That's just dumb.

[edrick]

how are the situation at all comparable? he left and waited till Cleveland got muthafu@cking STACKED

That "stacked" team won 33 games last year.

[GODbe]

Pretty sure it's been indisputable since 2010 :confusedshrug:

[Fudge]

That "stacked" team won 33 games last year.
Yeah...before they got GOATdrew SWAGgins, buttplug. :facepalm

[Roundball_Rock]

Nate Silver ran the numbers on how many projected wins various teams would have with LeBron. Cleveland projected to 52 wins, as did Miami. The Rockets, Clippers, Bulls, Hawks and Suns had the best projections.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lebron-james-shouldnt-stay-in-miami-or-go-to-cleveland/

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Nate Silver ran the numbers on how many projected wins various teams would have with LeBron. Cleveland projected to 52 wins, as did Miami. The Rockets, Clippers, Bulls, Hawks and Suns had the best projections.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lebron-james-shouldnt-stay-in-miami-or-go-to-cleveland/

That's assuming no Kevin Love, right?

[oh the horror]

So Kyrie Irving and a 19 year old unproven draft pick is stacked now?:facepalm



Not stacked. But are we all going to act like it doesn't seem like a better option than Miami right now?

Broken down Wade and cream puff Bosh plus more meh vets?



Cleveland due to their talent has a better road up ahead.

[Hey Yo]

Not stacked. But are we all going to act like it doesn't seem like a better option than Miami right now?

Broken down Wade and cream puff Bosh plus more meh vets?



Cleveland due to their talent has a better road up ahead.
Other than Varejao and barely used Gibson, do the rest of Cavs players have any playoff experience?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Not stacked. But are we all going to act like it doesn't seem like a better option than Miami right now?

Broken down Wade and cream puff Bosh plus more meh vets?



Cleveland due to their talent has a better road up ahead.


We gonna act like Cleveland is a better option than Chicago, Houston, Dallas or Phoenix?? It's partly about winning and partly about repairing his image..

[Roundball_Rock]

That's assuming no Kevin Love, right?

Yes, Love was not included but he did include Allen in all of his projections.

[SamuraiSWISH]

We gonna act like Cleveland is a better option than Chicago, Houston, Dallas or Phoenix?? It's partly about winning and partly about repairing his image..
He looks way more soulless, and cowardly going to: Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Los Angeles or Phoenix. His only true options are Miami, or Cleveland. His legacy is damned if he went anywhere else.

[Roundball_Rock]

RoundMound,

I just saw that Silver ran the numbers in a later piece which included Love on the Cavs. He projects 63 wins.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/what-cleveland-would-look-like-with-lebron-james-and-kevin-love/

[Stringer Bell]

I saw his ghetto ass coming miles away ni99a

:oldlol: