Kobe in the 2001 West finals as a 22 year old against the young Spurs...

[stalkerforlife]

33.3ppg, 7.0rpg, 7.0apg, 51.4%, 35.7%, 77%, 57ts%. Lakers sweep a young and prime Spurs 4-0.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

:kobe:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wow he must've been carrying the team. Did he win finals MVP that year?

[BlazerRed]

Wow he must've been carrying the team. Did he win finals MVP that year?
Uh oh..

[red1]

who were his defenders?

[KyleKong]

Wow he must've been carrying the team. Did he win finals MVP that year?
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[Eric Cartman]

Great performance by Kobe. In his younger days he was considered a Spurs killer.

[stalkerforlife]

Wow he must've been carrying the team. Did he win finals MVP that year?

Yes, he was the MVP of the actual finals.

[SpecialQue]

Wow he must've been carrying the team. Did he win finals MVP that year?

No, he wasn't. But Shaq goes ringless without Kobe, which is a fact, no matter how much people here don't want that to be so. Unless ISH wants to think that Shaq somehow became unstoppable right at the moment Kobe finally made the leap from a "very good" to elite player.

[Ne 1]

http://www.hypun.com/lollibs/meme_thumb_l/6643383.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BESnCrgCAAEHKku.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTId0VHCAAA6yfD.jpg

[edrick]

Haters be like, Kobe took far more shot to get the same amount of points.

[stalkerforlife]

Great performance by Kobe. In his younger days he was considered a Spurs killer.

You must've forgot 2008.

[Droid101]

Haters be like, Kobe took far more shot to get the same amount of points.
Haters be like, Kobe had about the same true shooting percentage, a better indicator of how efficient you are with scoring.

[stalkerforlife]

http://www.hypun.com/lollibs/meme_thumb_l/6643383.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BESnCrgCAAEHKku.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTId0VHCAAA6yfD.jpg

:lebronamazed:

[Ne 1]

Haters be like, Kobe took far more shot to get the same amount of points.
Playoffs: Kobe- 22 FGA's per game Shaq- 22 FGA's per game.

[SouBeachTalents]

Didn't OP literally make this same exact post yesterday?

[stalkerforlife]

Didn't OP literally make this same exact post yesterday?

Negged for lying and not doing your research.

[stalkerforlife]

2001 Spurs: 58 wins, but they faced the Lakers with Derek Anderson injured (Duncan's second option).

The Kings were better than the Spurs minus Derek Anderson without question, and the Sixers actually beat the Lakers once (no other team did).

The 01 WCF was anything but "the actual Finals". The Spurs were arguably their easiest opponent, and the backcourt which Kobe went up against consisted of Derek Anderson, Terry Porter, Danny Ferry, and Avery Johnson.

Kobe was amazing in 01, but he wasn't the MVP of the real Finals. The actual Finals was either the Sixers series (Shaq) or the Kings series (close but probably Shaq).

I like you, but you hate Kobe. I have to disregard you when he is involved.

Personally, I don't mind Duncan being ahead of Kobe. I see it both ways. You just seem to have a lot of hate in your heart for the Spurs heart breaker.

[SouBeachTalents]

Negged for lying and not doing your research.

OK, I admit, my mistake, it was the '02 Finals

[T_L_P]

I like you, but you hate Kobe. I have to disregard you when he is involved.

Personally, I don't mind Duncan being ahead of Kobe. I see it both ways. You just seem to have a lot of hate in your heart for the Spurs heart breaker.

I've already said, multiple times, that Kobe was arguably better than Shaq in 01. I don't hate anybody.

I'm just stating facts (irrefutable ones by the way). The 2001 Spurs were either the worst or second worst opponent that Lakers squad faced, and Kobe went up against one of the most atrocious NBA backcourts I can ever think of. It wasn't the real Finals. It wasn't even close.

:confusedshrug:

[stalkerforlife]

OK, I admit, my mistake, it was the '02 Finals

Future rep for correcting yourself.

[Wade3]

Dat Fro,Dem chiseled cheekbones (yes homo) :bowdown:

[Warfan]

Not trying to he a d!ck but why the hell is a thread about this series or just 01 kobe in general posted every few weeks? Either you watched it live and already know or you've seen the dozens of threads about it (same with those 3 pics too) or you've atleast looked up the numbers. It's annoying...

[stalkerforlife]

Not trying to he a d!ck but why the hell is a thread about this series or just 01 kobe in general posted every few weeks? Either you watched it live and already know or you've seen the dozens of threads about it (same with those 3 pics too) or you've atleast looked up the numbers. It's annoying...

Future neg for not appreciating greatness.

[Jacks3]

Spurs went and got Bowen because of this series. :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Future rep for correcting yourself.

No problem, just got my Frobe sweeps mixed up

[Keno]

to end this thread: shaq.

[Warfan]

Future neg for not appreciating greatness.

Ok budadiiii. When's your ban being lifted?? Or are you permabanned?? :oldlol:
Either way go f*ck yourself

[stalkerforlife]

Ok budadiiii. When's your ban being lifted?? Or are you permabanned?? :oldlol:
Either way go f*ck yourself

You're mistaken.

Silly boy.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Yes, he was the MVP of the actual finals.
That's great man. Could you post his finals numbers as well as proof that he got the FMVP trophy in 2001? I was trying to find the info, but failed.

Thanks in advance

[J Shuttlesworth]

No, he wasn't. But Shaq goes ringless without Kobe, which is a fact, no matter how much people here don't want that to be so. Unless ISH wants to think that Shaq somehow became unstoppable right at the moment Kobe finally made the leap from a "very good" to elite player.
Didn't Shaq get 4 rings total? 1 w/o kobe?

[GODbe]

GOAT gonna GOAT:pimp: .

Now post LeBalds 07 finals stats and lets compare :lol

[SpecialQue]

Didn't Shaq get 4 rings total? 1 w/o kobe?

Oh, that fourth one was all him? OK. I stand corrected.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Oh, that fourth one was all him? OK. I stand corrected.
Not disagreeing, but it's not like kobe's first 3 rings were all him :confusedshrug:

[Macho Grande]

:oldlol: @ anyone calling that Spurs team "young and prime."

Both Sean Elliott and David Robinson were just about set to retire at that point. As a matter of fact, I think that Elliott retired after that season with one good knee, and one good kidney left that he needed a transplant to get. Dude had one foot in the grave only a year earlier. Robinson only lasted a couple of more seasons, but was little more than a role player.

Anyone care to guess what happened the first time Kobe met up with the Spurs in the playoffs? Spurs swept them. Yeah, Kobe was a real Spurs killa back in his early years. :oldlol:

[Jacks3]

Kobe destroyed the Sperms in 2001, 2002, 2004, AND 2008.

Dude IS the ultimate Spur killer.

:oldlol:

[jzek]

It is a valid question -- where are his Finals MVPs during those years?

[Ne 1]

That's great man. Could you post his finals numbers as well as proof that he got the FMVP trophy in 2001? I was trying to find the info, but failed.

Thanks in advance
FMVP= Pretty useless award. Also 17 game sample size > 5

[Purch]

Prime spurs is a weird way of saying it...

The best spurs team IMO were 1999, 2014 and 2005

[Anaximandro1]

a young and prime Spurs ...



Terry Porter 37
David Robinson 35
Avery Johnson 35
Steve Kerr 35
Danny Ferry 34
Sean Elliot 32


Spurs' perimeter was a complete joke.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-42T1nUuFwt4/U70q3AvHITI/AAAAAAAADRU/ZP59CmX2tCc/s1600/3.jpg

[T_L_P]

Kobe destroyed the Sperms in 2001, 2002, 2004, AND 2008.

Dude IS the ultimate Spur killer.

:oldlol:

26/5/5 on .486 TS% counts as destroying a team? Are you serious? :oldlol:

[dubeta]

Kobe stans are the only fanbase that get excited over 25 points on 42% shooting

[dankok8]

The only title run that it was close between Shaq and Kobe is 2001. In 2002 and especially 2000, Shaq was simply way better. To try to pretend like Kobe was as good as Shaq for the whole threepeat is really stupid no other way to put it! :roll:

[Hey Yo]

a young and prime Spurs ...




Spurs' perimeter was a complete joke.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-42T1nUuFwt4/U70q3AvHITI/AAAAAAAADRU/ZP59CmX2tCc/s1600/3.jpg
http://t.co/WzpZWiZ76B

[Droid101]

Oh, that fourth one was all him? OK. I stand corrected.
Yeah didn't you watch? Shaq kept getting fouled and fouled and shot a record number of free throws for the finals. Even set a record PER rating for the Finals.

Shaq!

[Macho Grande]

Kobe destroyed the Sperms in 2001, 2002, 2004, AND 2008.

Dude IS the ultimate Spur killer.

:oldlol:


Cherry pick much? Maybe you can tell us what happened to the great Spurs killer in 99 and 03. And if the clock keeper starts the clock on time for Fisher's .04 shot in 2004, that's another series you can chalk up for the Spurs. But let's forget that and give all the credit to Kobe instead, right?

:oldlol: Spurs Killer
:oldlol: "Young and Prime" 01 Spurs
:oldlol: Needing help from bad clock management in 2004 to escape

Typical Lakers/Kobe fans. Cherry picking their way through their own revisionist history. It's getting to be like a fishing tale. By the time they explain it to their grandkids, the Lakers will have beaten the Spurs in every single match-up against them, while Kobe was blindfolded, with one hand tied behind his back.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

GOAT gonna GOAT:pimp: .

Now post LeBalds 07 finals stats and lets compare :lol
Spurs only had to shut down LBJ, Shaq was their main defensive objective in 2001 so this is comparing apples and oranges. Not to mention 2007 Spurs had a better perimeter defence.

Sit down boy and don't call your false idol the GOAT.

[Ne 1]

Spurs only had to shut down LBJ, Shaq was their main defensive objective in 2001 so this is comparing apples and oranges. Not to mention 2007 Spurs had a better perimeter defence.

Sit down boy and don't call your false idol the GOAT. Just so you know you're replying to pauk's gimmick account. But as far as the '07 Spurs defense on LeBron? Pop had Bruce Bowen sag off him about 25 feet and let LeBron shot jumpers and he did nothing about it becuase he had no midrange game.

[Jacks3]

26/5/5 on .486 TS% counts as destroying a team? Are you serious? :oldlol:
I assume you're talking about 2002. Yeah, I'd say a series where every game was ridiculously close and Kobe had one of the greatest clutch series ever ( 11 PPG on 63% TS in the 4th quarters :eek: ) counts as destroying a team. Dude took over down and shit on the Sperms down the stretch. :oldlol:

[Jacks3]

Cherry pick much? Maybe you can tell us what happened to the great Spurs killer in 99 and 03.
How am I cherry-picking? He played the Spurs in a series 5 times in his prime and destroyed them in 4 of those series. Lakers won 4 of 5 series. Face it. The Sperms were completely owned by the Lakers and Bryant during the 00's.

:oldlol:

[ThePhantomCreep]

2001 Spurs: 58 wins, but they faced the Lakers with Derek Anderson injured (Duncan's second option).

The Kings were better than the Spurs minus Derek Anderson without question, and the Sixers actually beat the Lakers once (no other team did).

The 01 WCF was anything but "the actual Finals". The Spurs were arguably their easiest opponent, and the backcourt which Kobe went up against consisted of Derek Anderson, Terry Porter, Danny Ferry, and Avery Johnson.

Kobe was amazing in 01, but he wasn't the MVP of the real Finals. The actual Finals was either the Sixers series (Shaq) or the Kings series (close but probably Shaq).

Revisionist history at its finest. Making near-peak Tim Duncan sound rather UN-dominant, frankly.

[Jacks3]

lol @ the revisionist history. The 01 series between the Spurs and Lakers got a ton of hype before it started. People were predicting an all-time classic series that would go to the wire. People forget because the Lakers raped them so badly. :oldlol:

[Macho Grande]

How am I cherry-picking? He played the Spurs in a series 5 times in his prime and destroyed them in 4 of those series. Lakers won 4 of 5 series. Face it. The Sperms were completely owned by the Lakers and Bryant during the 00's.

:oldlol:

Uh huh. Still waiting for you to explain what happened to your Spurs killer in 99, 03, and why he needed a miracle shot from Derek Fisher, combined with a slow clock keeper in 04 to escape yet another playoff series loss to the Spurs.

[Droid101]

Spurs only had to shut down LBJ, Shaq was their main defensive objective in 2001 so this is comparing apples and oranges. Not to mention 2007 Spurs had a better perimeter defence.

Sit down boy and don't call your false idol the GOAT.
Hahahahahaha....

So, in 2008, Spurs should have had nobody to shut down other than Kobe right? Right?

So why did he bitch them the **** up?

[eliteballer]

Uh huh. Still waiting for you to explain what happened to your Spurs killer in 99, 03, and why he needed a miracle shot from Derek Fisher, combined with a slow clock keeper in 04 to escape yet another playoff series loss to the Spurs.

I'll explain to you right now, ISHiot. He was 20 years old in 1999, and he had knee and shoulder injuries in 03, yet still put up 32/5/4 against them.

Kobe would have done them even worse in 04 if he had proper rehab from his offseason surgeries which left him with subpar speed and hops for his standards.

[Macho Grande]

I'll explain to you right now, ISHiot. He was 20 years old in 1999, and he had knee and shoulder injuries in 03, yet still put up 32/5/4 against them.

Kobe would have done them even worse in 04 if he had proper rehab from his offseason surgeries which left him with subpar speed and hops for his standards.


Here come the excuses. :rolleyes:

By the time the playoffs start, just about every player on every team is playing through pain of some sort from injuries.

Weak sauce.

[Slim_Slugga]

Well look who was guarding him, shot to shit terry porter, danny ferry, antonio daniels :lol . Also helps when shaq is commanding triple teams each trip down the court

Those early 00" spurs were truly a 1 man team

[PickernRoller]

For Kobe, raping both Duncan and Robinson in the paint is like brushing his teeth in the morning. Nothing to see here really. The Spurs franchise always picked the left-overs when the Lakers had off-years. Vulture franchise at its finest.

Lol at these clowns that know nothing about those years acting like they know. Kobe IS a Spurs killer. There is no other player over a 10 year stretch that dominated that franchise like Kobe did - nobody.

Kids these days trying to rewrite history on a forum.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Hahahahahaha....

So, in 2008, Spurs should have had nobody to shut down other than Kobe right? Right?

So why did he bitch them the **** up?
Surely you understand having the benefits of having a legitimate #2 option on offence and as Ne1 stated before, Lebron's jumper was not what it currently is in 2007 so San Antonio could give him more space and force him to shoot jumpers.
Kobe had Gasol in 2008 and when he was with Shaq he was the #2 and didn't receive the same attention from defences because of it.
Always remember Duncan>Kobe :banana:

[IllegalD]

When I think of the San Antonio Sperms, 2 things come to mind...

http://static.tumblr.com/5c8025b55e8e09e35ca45d4ce0e97315/6kuapoc/TyAmub8xu/tumblr_static_asterisk.png

and...


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818167/duncanmiss.gif

[GimmeThat]

well, the ability to make jump shots are quite important in the NBA

[STATUTORY]

kobe only scored that much cause spurs sagged off him actively and dared him to shoot

oh wait that's how they guarded lebron, my fault my fault

[riseagainst]

kobe only scored that much cause spurs sagged off him actively and dared him to shoot

oh wait that's how they guarded lebron, my fault my fault

i'm a lebron fan and all, but this is so true and funny.

:lol

[HurricaneKid]

Help me understand. Shaq is going up against Tim Duncan and David Robinson and puts up 27/13 on .541 FG% and Kobe goes up against the GM of the Hawks, a guy on Dialysis and a 37 yr old and you want to talk about how good Kobe was??

[IllegalD]

Help me understand. Shaq is going up against Tim Duncan and David Robinson and puts up 27/13 on .541 FG% and Kobe goes up against the GM of the Hawks, a guy on Dialysis and a 37 yr old and you want to talk about how good Kobe was??

Ever hear of Bruce Bowen...? :confusedshrug:

[Stringer Bell]

Actually watched game 1 the other day.

Amazing performance.

[HurricaneKid]

Ever hear of Bruce Bowen...? :confusedshrug:

Of course I have heard of him.

You understand he was on the Miami Heat in 00-01 right?