Gerald Wallace takes shots at LeBron

[JohnMax]

In Wallace’s eyes James still lacks something Jordan and Bryant had in excess.

“Jordan never had an off night,” Wallace told myfoxal.com at his basketball camp in Alabama. “He found many ways to contribute to the team, and I’d say Kobe is pretty much the same. You can put LeBron in that category. I think what separates LeBron from Kobe and Michael Jordan right now is that he doesn’t have the attitude or fight that those guys had.

“For me, he’s not willing to take over a game, demand a game or put the game all on his shoulders. I would like to see him get to that one day, but right now I don’t think he has that. That’s what Michael Jordan and even Kobe has.”

video (http://www.myfoxal.com/clip/10348772/gerald-wallace-says-lebron-james-doesnt-have-enough-fight) http://i.imgur.com/rIZCxC4.png watch between 2:34 to 4:19

[J Shuttlesworth]

[QUOTE=JohnMax]In Wallace

[tpols]

He would rather get his $tats...


But honestly, I'd be shocked if he led clevelands young crew to a chip. Could prove this wrong tho

[Inferno]

He's not the worst player of the 3

[Soundwave]

And the myth continues

That's overstating it, but I honestly don't remember too many situations where Jordan had two poor games in a row. Shrugs.

Anyways, what Wallace says is nothing new, it's fairly obvious.

MJ, Bird, and a few others are a bit of a different breed of player, stone cold killers.

Lebron is more like Shaq without the laziness.

[zoom17]

And the myth continues

:applause:

[JohnFreeman]

Kobe doesn't join MJ in any category..

[russwest0]

He's right.

Kobe and Jordan both brought it every night defensively. LeBron's effort defensively is closer to Melo and Harden in that regard.

[JohnFreeman]

He's right.

Kobe and Jordan both brought it every night defensively. LeBron's effort defensively is closer to Melo and Harden in that regard.
:roll:

[zoom17]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1919465/weakfight.gif

[dc_chilling]

[QUOTE=JohnMax]In Wallace

[shrempf_on_rice]

In b4 some wannabe computer MVP thinks he knows more than a NBA player in the league for over 10+ years...

whoops! Too late.

[dc_chilling]

He's right.

Kobe and Jordan both brought it every night defensively. LeBron's effort defensively is closer to Melo and Harden in that regard.

Zach Lowe on Kobe's defense:

"If Bryant makes first or second-team All-Defense again this season, I

[iamgine]

Marc Cuban: ...wanting it bad enough, make it happen, making the shots, being the shot maker. You know what they call that? They call that hero ball. And you know what the number one killer of a team that’s trying to come back? Hero ball.

[moe94]

He's right.

Kobe and Jordan both brought it every night defensively. LeBron's effort defensively is closer to Melo and Harden in that regard.

Stay deluded. :roll:

[tpols]

[QUOTE=iamgine][I]Marc Cuban: ...wanting it bad enough, make it happen, making the shots, being the shot maker. You know what they call that? They call that hero ball. And you know what the number one killer of a team that

[3LiftHeatCurse]

And the myth continues
sorry dude but you don't get it.

Jordan had a famous saying back then, that he would turn into "The Garbage Man" whenever his shot was off on any given night. Basically, what this means is, Jordan would go all out effort on rebounding, setting up his teammates, hustling for balls, playing intensified defense, etc.... basically all the little things that role players do.

so he would still contribute to a win.

this is what gerald wallace means when he says jordan still found ways to contribute in every single game, and didnt have off nights.

[Mr. Incredible]

lol. What has Gerald Wallace done besides be a scrub?

[Mr. Incredible]

[QUOTE=dc_chilling]Zach Lowe on Kobe's defense:

"If Bryant makes first or second-team All-Defense again this season, I

[Quizno]

lol. What has Gerald Wallace done besides be a scrub?
you serious? classic stan who jumped on the lebron bandwagon and started watching basketball when he went to the heat. crash is an all star defensive anchor who averaged a double double as a small forward and led a weak bobcats team to their first playoff appearance in franchise history. **** outta here :facepalm

[GimmeThat]

might be the curse of never being a 2nd option probably ever in his life.

and just because you're always the first option in your life doesn't mean you've always had the best team.

[dubeta]

Bran > MJ > Bean

[tontoz]

MJ had plenty of bad games. Get real

But he did have the will to take over games and take big shots which Lebron lacks.

[Kvnzhangyay]

MJ had plenty of bad games. Get real

But he did have the will to take over games and take big shots which Lebron lacks.

I would argue that he finally improved on this aspect this year, where he was lacking imo up until 2013 finals. (Cleveland days don't really count because he literally was forced to do everything including take the last shot)

[HylianNightmare]

This dude still in the league?

[DJ Leon Smith]

sorry dude but you don't get it.

Jordan had a famous saying back then, that he would turn into "The Garbage Man" whenever his shot was off on any given night. Basically, what this means is, Jordan would go all out effort on rebounding, setting up his teammates, hustling for balls, playing intensified defense, etc.... basically all the little things that role players do.

so he would still contribute to a win.

this is what gerald wallace means when he says jordan still found ways to contribute in every single game, and didnt have off nights.

This. Shoutout to LeBron fans for making Kobe fans look like geniuses in comparison when it comes to comprehension though, wow.

I'll say it again - when you play so poorly (in the NBA Finals no less) that a rumor gets legs that a teammate had sex with your mother, there is something seriously wrong with your game. I don't know any other star player who has ever played so bad that people said, "hey, maybe someone close to him is plowing his mom, that would explain everything". LeBron fans you just gotta live with that and stop trying to put your dude on an untouchable pedestal, and at the same time stop taking shots at guys who are clearly on another level to him.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

That's overstating it, but I honestly don't remember too many situations where Jordan had two poor games in a row. Shrugs.

Anyways, what Wallace says is nothing new, it's fairly obvious.

MJ, Bird, and a few others are a bit of a different breed of player, stone cold killers.

Lebron is more like Shaq without the laziness.
tell me how often LEBron had two bad games in a row??
yeah not very often outside of 2011 when he just wasnt himself.
but nikkas will stay mad because thats what nikkas do:facepalm

[qrich]

Kobe doesn't join MJ in any category..

Lies.

Both were NBA shooting guards.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

sorry dude but you don't get it.

Jordan had a famous saying back then, that he would turn into "The Garbage Man" whenever his shot was off on any given night. Basically, what this means is, Jordan would go all out effort on rebounding, setting up his teammates, hustling for balls, playing intensified defense, etc.... basically all the little things that role players do.

so he would still contribute to a win.

this is what gerald wallace means when he says jordan still found ways to contribute in every single game, and didnt have off nights.
shut up dumb Wade stan.
LeBron does everything way better than Jordan outside of scoring:facepalm

[SexSymbol]

And the myth continues
Not a myth, MJ always tried.
Kobe the same

[ArbitraryWater]

So much wrong with his comments :oldlol:

Damn some players lack knowledge

[knicksman]

sorry dude but you don't get it.

Jordan had a famous saying back then, that he would turn into "The Garbage Man" whenever his shot was off on any given night. Basically, what this means is, Jordan would go all out effort on rebounding, setting up his teammates, hustling for balls, playing intensified defense, etc.... basically all the little things that role players do.

so he would still contribute to a win.

this is what gerald wallace means when he says jordan still found ways to contribute in every single game, and didnt have off nights.

and this is what separates bran from jordan. he would rather be a garbage man in clutch situations than be the man. This guy is afraid of failure so since a garbage isnt going to be blamed, he plays like one.

[Angel Face]

Everything about what he said was true... Bran stans overreacting.

[To4]

Miss Gerald wallace on the bobcats..

[jlip]

[QUOTE=JohnMax]

[jzek]

And the myth continues

Please post a Jordan off night.

Off night would him will probably be like 18 pts and an overitme win.

[OldSchoolBBall]

And the myth continues

I think he meant mentally, or in terms of intensity. And that's pretty much true. There are maybe like 5 games in Jordan's CAREER where you can say he wasn't 100% mentally into the game or not giving it his best effort. That's why his teams own 3 of the top 5 team records of all time.

[GimmeThat]

and this is what separates bran from jordan. he would rather be a garbage man in clutch situations than be the man. This guy is afraid of failure so since a garbage isnt going to be blamed, he plays like one.


I wonder what's Lebron's regular season games winning %

[DaSeba5]

Jordan never had a bad game?

[sportjames23]

In Wallace’s eyes James still lacks something Jordan and Bryant had in excess.

“Jordan never had an off night,” Wallace told myfoxal.com at his basketball camp in Alabama. “He found many ways to contribute to the team, and I’d say Kobe is pretty much the same. You can put LeBron in that category. I think what separates LeBron from Kobe and Michael Jordan right now is that he doesn’t have the attitude or fight that those guys had.

“For me, he’s not willing to take over a game, demand a game or put the game all on his shoulders. I would like to see him get to that one day, but right now I don’t think he has that. That’s what Michael Jordan and even Kobe has.”

video (http://www.myfoxal.com/clip/10348772/gerald-wallace-says-lebron-james-doesnt-have-enough-fight) http://i.imgur.com/rIZCxC4.png watch between 2:34 to 4:19


I'm the biggest Jordan fan here, or anywhere for that matter, and I can't agree that MJ never had an off night.

I counted three in all the years I watched him.

[-Lebron23-]

Just another vet hyping up fellow vets vs younger players. Not much to discuss really, half of what he said doesn't even make sense

[GODbe]

Although I don't agree with the MJ part, dude was spitting mostly truth. :applause:

[The_LA_Blakers]

And the myth continues



So ridic how people remember Jordan like the dude never missed a shot.

[Akrazotile]

Thats Dirk in a nutshell.. cubans got his guy


Dirk looks to get an advantage first before taking the shot. Otherwise he makes the right pass. Of course there are exceptions but in general hes not a hero baller.

Not playing hero ball doesnt mean you arent willing to take the last shot, it means you strive to take the RIGHT shot. And if you dont have it and someone open does, PASS THE BALL.


Guys like Bean dont approach it with the idea of making the right play, theyre going to FORCE a shot up no matter what bc they want the glory and credit for what the whole team worked to achieve over 48 minutes.

[JellyBean]

[QUOTE=JohnMax]In Wallace

[pegasus]

Everything he said was true. Many of us, except for Lebron dickriders, have said it over and over again... Lebron sacrifices his team's chances to get back in game for the sake of his "empty" stats. He is too calculating and cunning. Just look at the way he handles his free agency.

[Beastmode88]

shut up dumb Wade stan.
LeBron does everything way better than Jordan outside of scoring:facepalm

game winning shots? winning in the finals? (6/6 > 2/5)

[HurricaneKid]

It always amazes me when great players become analysts and they don't know the first thing about the game. Sometimes its just that they don't want to be critical of player as it feels like they are attacking their fraternity. But far too often it is horrifyingly poor analysis. Some great players are really oblivious to a lot of things. This is where Wallace falls. Of course, he has made a career of crashing into everything without handling the nuances of the game so its not really a shock in this case.

What he is accusing LeBron of is not going 1v5 enough.

Its a STUPID thing to say.

Take a look at RAPM over the last 20 years and tell me he doesn't impact the game more than Kobe/ANYONE.

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/

[GimmeThat]

Everything he said was true. Many of us, except for Lebron dickriders, have said it over and over again... Lebron sacrifices his team's chances to get back in game for the sake of his "empty" stats. He is too calculating and cunning. Just look at the way he handles his free agency.

Jordan was so scared of empty stats
he retired

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[pegasus]

It always amazes me when great players become analysts and they don't know the first thing about the game. Often its just that they don't want to be critical of player as it feels like they are attacking their fraternity.

But some great players are really oblivious to a lot of things.

What he is accusing LeBron of is not going 1v5 enough.

Its a STUPID thing to say.

Take a look at RAPM over the last 20 years and tell me he doesn't impact the game more than Kobe/ANYONE.

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/
No one is saying he should go 1v5, but he should be able to go 1v1. Basic shake & bake and pull-up over your defender would suffice, but no, he has to make it seem like he's attacking the basket, so he can be causally double teamed, so he can pass the ball to a teammate who has to make the big shot despite getting zero recognition after the game because Lebron had better stats when the game was not on the line. We've seen it SOOOO many times.

2 for 5 speaks for itself. His success rate is %40 despite having super stacked teams, HCA's, being the heavy favorites to win it all in the last 6 years. (And I'm not even gonna talk about the refs in 2012, and Ray's miracle shot in 2013.) So, obviously what he does, what you call "the right way to play the game", is not the right way after all.

[KBaller33]

Jordan never had an off game. :coleman:

This is why everyone thins MJ is a god.