View Full Version : Kyrie Irving
dannywpt
07-11-2014, 01:13 PM
just became relevant
How much will his stats drop?
Rubio2Gasol
07-11-2014, 01:18 PM
Kyrie won't let himself be a spot up guy.
imdaman99
07-11-2014, 01:19 PM
He will be a better version of Mario Chalmers.
He has to appease to bran so that bran can keep putting up stats, we don't want him to quit on us do we? :coleman:
Wally450
07-11-2014, 01:20 PM
Kyrie's always been relevant. Great PG in this league. Just gotta stay healthy.
Meticode
07-11-2014, 01:20 PM
David Blatt will hopefully figure out this offense. Still a long time until pre-season, I'm guessing a few moves to make.
Brokenbeat
07-11-2014, 01:20 PM
Dunno, but I'm trading his ass once my dynasty league starts up again. :oldlol: :cry:
hawksdogsbraves
07-11-2014, 01:20 PM
The good thing about Irving is that he's such a good shooter that he'll probably get 12ppg just off open 3's that LeBron feeds him. He'll be fine.
Interested to see how this plays out for him. I was always excited about his potential but was sorely disappointed with his season last year... And I feel like his biggest weakness was over-dribbling. That would just be unacceptable this next year with the new guys coming in.
Meticode
07-11-2014, 01:21 PM
If no one saw this, this video was posted a few days ago...
The Comeback King (http://vimeo.com/92261125)
Duggrr
07-11-2014, 01:22 PM
Kyrie - 18 ppg
Wiggins - 12 ppg
Bran - 25 ppg
Thompson - 9 ppg
Varejao - 10 ppg
Meticode
07-11-2014, 01:23 PM
just became relevant
How much will his stats drop?
If they drop, I would expect them not by much. Mo Williams became a better player when he came to Cleveland and his shooting numbers went through the roof. I would expect Irving to be more efficient on offense. Especially with Blatt running the shot versus no offense Mike Brown.
HurricaneKid
07-11-2014, 01:23 PM
Interested to see how this plays out for him. I was always excited about his potential but was sorely disappointed with his season last year... And I feel like his biggest weakness was over-dribbling. That would just be unacceptable this next year with the new guys coming in.
Yeah, he was one of the reasons why I though LeBron WOULDN'T go to Cle. Most overrated player in the NBA making SuperMax contract.
On the SEASON, Cle was 4.4 points/100 possessions better WITHOUT Kyrie. He ranked #276 in the league in RAPM. Defensive SIEVE.
LeBron is going to find some things going on in Cle he isn't going to live.
Qwyjibo
07-11-2014, 01:24 PM
Kyrie has always been really good. He just stupidly got hated on like most good players do when the team around them blows. He did decline last year but was still good overall. Only idiots bashed him.
He's a good enough perimeter shooter to still put up big numbers with Lebron. Plus Lebron isn't getting any younger and has a TON of mileage on him. I'm sure Kyrie's days of being a primary ball-handler are not over.
tmacattack33
07-11-2014, 01:25 PM
Kyrie's points and assists will drop a little, his efficiency will go up (FG% and assist/turnover ratio), and he will contribute to more wins and in total will be a better player.
Rubio2Gasol
07-11-2014, 01:33 PM
People who think efficency goes up just because Lebron will create good shots and less doubles are idiots.
Kyrie should continue to play his natural game and keep bringing the ball up, attacking and taking the shots he takes. He is not a spot up guy and it's pretty obvious his game depends on the rhythym he builds while dribbling.
Cavs should play iso ball next year, alternating between Bron and Kyrie. If both are dominant, they will beat any team in the league.
Enough of this facilitator bullshit.
People who think efficency goes up just because Lebron will create good shots and less doubles are idiots.
Kyrie should continue to play his natural game and keep bringing the ball up, attacking and taking the shots he takes. He is not a spot up guy and it's pretty obvious his game depends on the rhythym he builds while dribbling.
Cavs should play iso ball next year, alternating between Bron and Kyrie. If both are dominant, they will beat any team in the league.
Enough of this facilitator bullshit.
Facilitator bullshit? :biggums:
Lebron23
07-11-2014, 01:43 PM
Facilitator bullshit? :biggums:
Kobe style basketball.
Rubio2Gasol
07-11-2014, 01:51 PM
Kobe style basketball.
Not really.
"Facilitating" for a player like Kyrie or Wade is absolute garbage. They aren't spot up guys. The only way to allow them to succeed is to allow them to play. Anyone who thinks creating 3 point shots for people who don't spot up = playmaking is just ignorant.
There was a time when Kobe had a really great balance, he alternated dominating with Shaq. Lebron should do the same with Kyrie, not try to pad his assist stats.
With great players, you want them doing what comes naturally.
veilside23
07-11-2014, 01:51 PM
all i know is kyrie is a mofo for breaking them ankles... dude is a master with the ball... so lebron better practice shootin as well
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