View Full Version : I'm a Cavs fan now, and I have no shame in admitting it
2010splash
07-11-2014, 07:35 PM
I was a Cavs fan prior to 2010 solely because of LeBron. Then he left for Miami and I knew Cleveland would blow hard, so I hopped onto Miami's bandwagon and got to see the greatest player ever since Jordan win 2 titles and play for 4 in a row. I literally did not watch a single Cavs game from 2010 - 2014, with the exception of Heat vs. Cavs. It was all Heat for me.
Now that LeBron's back in Cleveland, the Cavs are back and are gonna rule the league. Miami is stuck with Wade's corpse and Bosh's soft, rebound-allergic, perimeter-shooting self on a MAX contract. :oldlol:
Miami ain't winning sh-t for a long time and I ain't going to watch a single game. But I can assure you that I'll watch and vigorously root for the Cavs now that LeBron is back.
You got a problem with bandwagoning? Too bad.......:coleman:
inclinerator
07-11-2014, 07:37 PM
:lol
RoundMoundOfReb
07-11-2014, 07:37 PM
2014splash :bowdown:
3LiftHeatCurse
07-11-2014, 07:38 PM
Yes! I can finally have fun and join in on the LeQuit bashing!
SouBeachTalents
07-11-2014, 07:39 PM
I was a Cavs fan prior to 2010 solely because of LeBron. Then he left for Miami and I knew Cleveland would blow hard, so I hopped onto Miami's bandwagon and got to see the greatest player ever since Jordan win 2 titles and play for 4 in a row. I literally did not watch a single Cavs game from 2010 - 2014, with the exception of Heat vs. Cavs. It was all Heat for me.
Now that LeBron's back in Cleveland, the Cavs are back and are gonna rule the league. Miami is stuck with Wade's corpse and Bosh's soft, rebound-allergic, perimeter-shooting self on a MAX contract. :oldlol:
Miami ain't winning sh-t for a long time and I ain't going to watch a single game. But I can assure you that I'll watch and vigorously root for the Cavs now that LeBron is back.
You got a problem with bandwagoning? Too bad.......:coleman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weSplst1PUc
305Baller
07-11-2014, 07:39 PM
Im still NOT a Cavs fan.
T_L_P
07-11-2014, 07:39 PM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/kobe-bryant-lol-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-1660.gif
2010splash
07-11-2014, 07:41 PM
Im still NOT a Cavs fan.
Mad respect man, but it's gonna suck down there in Miami for a long time. They only went as far as LeBron could carry them.
The Cavs is back. And I'm back on their bandwagon.
Mr. Incredible
07-11-2014, 07:42 PM
No shame.
OnFire
07-11-2014, 07:45 PM
I don't get people who bounce around their teams root for or dont root for any particular team at all.
For me to get interest in anything... just to get interested in Soccer leading to the World Cup i started following the Strikers and the Rowdies lol.
NumberSix
07-11-2014, 07:46 PM
Im still NOT a Cavs fan.
Same, but I will always be a LeBron fan.
OnFire
07-11-2014, 07:47 PM
Mad respect man, but it's gonna suck down there in Miami for a long time. They only went as far as LeBron could carry them.
The Cavs is back. And I'm back on their bandwagon.
The Heat did more that cleveland before lebron and will do more than cleveland after lebron.
2010splash
07-11-2014, 07:49 PM
The Heat did more that cleveland before lebron and will do more than cleveland after lebron.
Are you joking? The Heat were sh-t before LeBron. After a lone 2006 title, they just got wasted in the first round or missed the playoffs until LeBron signed with them.
Now he's back in Cleveland, there's no way Miami's going to do anything of significance. They're done man. Finished.
SupermanOnSteroids
07-11-2014, 08:12 PM
pathetic player stans. living life sucking **** each and every day to the max.
NumberSix
07-11-2014, 08:15 PM
pathetic player stans. living life sucking **** each and every day to the max.
You realize that you're basically arguing AGAINST valuing people over brands? You get that, right?
SupermanOnSteroids
07-11-2014, 08:19 PM
TEAM vs a self entitles duchebag. gimmie TEAM. thats not gonna run away for more money in 4 years. representing hometown with pride always.
2010splash
07-11-2014, 08:19 PM
So many sad and mad Heat fans in this thread. That's the problem when you're a team fan first and player fan second. Players rule in the NBA. That's how it works.
LeBron is pretty much the only reason Miami won 2 straight titles and played for 4 in a row. The dude won 2 MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs, led you to 4 Finals appearances and 2 rings. He's already the GREATEST PLAYER in Miami Heat history.
Ya'll dudes need to stop taking this diehard loyalty thing so seriously and just hop on to the Cavs bandwagon.
The Heat are gonna suck major ass. The Cavs are gonna hang up banners. It's easy for me to decide which team to root for.
lpublic_enemyl
07-11-2014, 08:35 PM
You realize that you're basically arguing AGAINST valuing people over brands? You get that, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIN_bGE52SU
Perfectly Describes it
Godzuki
07-11-2014, 08:37 PM
you're like the mainstream. they're ALL on the CLE/Lebron bandwagon right now.
listenign to sports radio, or any Lebron signing news, shows, etc. they're all sucking his dikk so hard. I think i just heard the writer from the Akron-Beacon Times or whatever say this was the greatest moment of his life or something along those lines on NPR...
the media hype and Lebron to CLE bandwagoning right now going on is pretty ridiculous.
NugzFan
07-11-2014, 08:39 PM
I am ok with bandwagon fans if they at least admit it. I don't respect them and could never stoop to that level but at least OP is admitting it.
J.101
07-11-2014, 08:49 PM
OP ain't fronting clearing the room on the wagon early. Least you can admit straight up tho
Hotlantadude81
07-11-2014, 09:01 PM
I was a Cavs fan prior to 2010 solely because of LeBron. Then he left for Miami and I knew Cleveland would blow hard, so I hopped onto Miami's bandwagon and got to see the greatest player ever since Jordan win 2 titles and play for 4 in a row. I literally did not watch a single Cavs game from 2010 - 2014, with the exception of Heat vs. Cavs. It was all Heat for me.
Now that LeBron's back in Cleveland, the Cavs are back and are gonna rule the league. Miami is stuck with Wade's corpse and Bosh's soft, rebound-allergic, perimeter-shooting self on a MAX contract. :oldlol:
Miami ain't winning sh-t for a long time and I ain't going to watch a single game. But I can assure you that I'll watch and vigorously root for the Cavs now that LeBron is back.
You got a problem with bandwagoning? Too bad.......:coleman:
I'm joining you.
artificial
07-12-2014, 02:10 AM
I don't even think being a loyal fan of a player classifies as bandwaggoning. I respect that almost as much as I respect being a fan of a team.
The problem is when people are idiots. You see, being a fan of Lebron doesn't gives you the right to troll making daily reminders about your opinions on a certain player, sh*tting on Miami just because he isn't playing there anymore, nor insult people that root for other teams / players.
Being a loyal fan of a team and/or a player is respectable, has nothing to do with class, and neither gives you green light to be an idiot.
dreamwarrior
07-12-2014, 02:16 AM
hilarious.
Who cares, just enjoy basketball however you want it really....
Personally i am just honest to myself, as a Euro, Croatian, ex. Yugoslavian, i feel true connection only to one team and that is from my country/city, i became a NBA fan because of great basketball, namely a player/players (Larry Bird and then MJ, Reggie Miller etc.) got me into it..... i was rooting for their success, but in doing so i hence ofcourse automatically rooted for their teams success.... and i love it this way, i feel free, free from team stan bias, free from restrictions, free from disrespecting a team/player and hence disrespect great basketball in honor of my favorite team..... i can just enjoy great basketball, no matter where it comes from, player or team.... You can do that as a team fan aswell, dont get me wrong.... but most often, it isnt the case... being a team fan can be noble, but is not as noble as they would love to think.... there is no right or wrong here, just enjoy basketball however it pleases you....
jrong
07-12-2014, 02:21 AM
So many sad and mad Heat fans in this thread. That's the problem when you're a team fan first and player fan second. Players rule in the NBA. That's how it works.
LeBron is pretty much the only reason Miami won 2 straight titles and played for 4 in a row. The dude won 2 MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs, led you to 4 Finals appearances and 2 rings. He's already the GREATEST PLAYER in Miami Heat history.
Ya'll dudes need to stop taking this diehard loyalty thing so seriously and just hop on to the Cavs bandwagon.
The Heat are gonna suck major ass. The Cavs are gonna hang up banners. It's easy for me to decide which team to root for.
Not a chance in hell. A four year body of work does not eclipse an 11 year one. Especially when LeBron really only led the Heat to a net of one title since he cost them the other one (and no, he didn't lead the team that year, he just torpedoed their championship chance, quite possibly intentionally, once he realized he had no shot at FMVP).
LilEddyCurry
07-12-2014, 02:27 AM
I was a Cavs fan prior to 2010 solely because of LeBron. Then he left for Miami and I knew Cleveland would blow hard, so I hopped onto Miami's bandwagon and got to see the greatest player ever since Jordan win 2 titles and play for 4 in a row. I literally did not watch a single Cavs game from 2010 - 2014, with the exception of Heat vs. Cavs. It was all Heat for me.
Now that LeBron's back in Cleveland, the Cavs are back and are gonna rule the league. Miami is stuck with Wade's corpse and Bosh's soft, rebound-allergic, perimeter-shooting self on a MAX contract. :oldlol:
Miami ain't winning sh-t for a long time and I ain't going to watch a single game. But I can assure you that I'll watch and vigorously root for the Cavs now that LeBron is back.
You got a problem with bandwagoning? Too bad.......:coleman:
2003-2010-Cleveland fan
2010-2014-Miami fan
2014 onwards-Cleveland fan
:lol
walcott
07-12-2014, 02:27 AM
me too
davehos
07-12-2014, 02:28 AM
2014Sploosh
/obligatory
/phrasing
RedBlackAttack
07-12-2014, 02:31 AM
I have no problem with player fans as long as they admit what they are. You aren't doing that. Let's be crystal clear, here, so there is no confusion. You're a LeBron James fan, not a Cavs fan.
That is an important distinction. Outside of that, knock yourself out.
ThePhantomCreep
07-12-2014, 02:32 AM
So many sad and mad Heat fans in this thread. That's the problem when you're a team fan first and player fan second. Players rule in the NBA. That's how it works.
LeBron is pretty much the only reason Miami won 2 straight titles and played for 4 in a row. The dude won 2 MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs, led you to 4 Finals appearances and 2 rings. He's already the GREATEST PLAYER in Miami Heat history.
Ya'll dudes need to stop taking this diehard loyalty thing so seriously and just hop on to the Cavs bandwagon.
The Heat are gonna suck major ass. The Cavs are gonna hang up banners. It's easy for me to decide which team to root for.
Banners? As in more than one? Lulz.
LeBron could barely managed two on a super stacked team in a feeble conference, he'll be 32-33 by the time these young Cavs are ready for a title. He might be too old for you by then. You'll have to find a younger player to slurp.
Pat Riley vs the village idiot Dan Gilbert. Yeah, I'll take Miami over the Cadavers in the long run.
RedBlackAttack
07-12-2014, 02:37 AM
Banners? As in more than one? Lulz.
LeBron could barely managed two on a super stacked team in a feeble conference, he'll be 32-33 by the time these young Cavs are ready for a title. He might be too old for you by then. You'll have to find a younger player to slurp.
Pat Riley vs the village idiot Dan Gilbert. Yeah, I'll take Miami over the Cadavers in the long run.
Yes, Pat Riley the magician. He cleared cap space for two years in preparation for the summer of 2010. That's some impressive title building capabilities there. Truly awe-inspiring.
The Cavs are in such a better place right now as compared to the Heat, not just for the present, but for the future.
I guess Riles can always clear more contracts off the books and try to coax Durant over in 2016, but outside of that... things look pretty bleak.
ThePhantomCreep
07-12-2014, 02:47 AM
Yes, Pat Riley the magician. He cleared cap space for two years in preparation for the summer of 2010. That's some impressive title building capabilities there. Truly awe-inspiring.
The Cavs are in such a better place right now as compared to the Heat, not just for the present, but for the future.
I guess Riles can always clear more contracts off the books and try to coax Durant over in 2016, but outside of that... things look pretty bleak.
Because Gilbert was a genius at luring top-tier talent to Cleveland during LeBron's first go-round, wasn't he? That isn't going to improve btw. Unless 90-year old veterans are your idea of top FA signings.
Riley built a winner in Miami well before the Decision. Cleveland hasn't built a winner since...never. Ever. Why am I supposed to be in awe of them again?
RedBlackAttack
07-12-2014, 02:56 AM
Because Gilbert was a genius at luring top-tier talent to Cleveland during LeBron's first go-round, wasn't he? That isn't going to improve btw. Unless 90-year old veterans are your idea of top FA signings.
Sounds like you've been listening to fatso Windy. One of the biggest reasons FAs weren't lining up to play in Cleveland during his first stay -- outside of the city just not being a hub for big FA signings -- was that James refused to commit longterm. Trevor Ariza was very clear, in fact, that he was going to sign with the Cavs in 2009 (I think that was the year), but he didn't because he couldn't get an answer out of James as to his future plans. Then, in the summer of 2010, the Cavs actually had agreed in principle for a trade which would have brought in Chris Bosh, but James/Wade/Bosh had already made their decision by that point.
I'm assuming things are going to change now that James is really committed here. I guess time will tell, but Kevin Love has already made it public that he'd sign longterm in Cleveland.
I'd say that's a pretty good start. I haven't heard his agent proclaim that he'd agree to terms on a longterm extension in Miami, have you?
Riley built a winner in Miami well before the Decision. Cleveland hasn't built a winner since...never. Ever. Why am I supposed to be in awe of them again?
Who said you were supposed to be in awe? But, the Cavs have acquired (1) a tremendous amount of cap flexibility; (2) some really good young players, highlighted by Wiggins and Irving; (3) lots of future picks to either use as trade pieces or add talent through the draft; (4) Brendan Haywood's contract which is essentially a $11 million trade exception next season.
I don't care if you're "in awe," but it certainly doesn't support your narrative of ineptitude. The Cavs are arguably the flexible team in the NBA in the near future.
jrong
07-12-2014, 03:14 AM
Yes, Pat Riley the magician. He cleared cap space for two years in preparation for the summer of 2010. That's some impressive title building capabilities there. Truly awe-inspiring.
The Cavs are in such a better place right now as compared to the Heat, not just for the present, but for the future.
I guess Riles can always clear more contracts off the books and try to coax Durant over in 2016, but outside of that... things look pretty bleak.
Dude, I've always liked you, but don't discount the addition by subtraction factor when it comes to Wade (especially) and Bosh being free of the offensive vortex that is LeBron James.
We'll see you in the playoffs.
RedBlackAttack
07-12-2014, 03:26 AM
Dude, I've always liked you, but don't discount the addition by subtraction factor when it comes to Wade (especially) and Bosh being free of the offensive vortex that is LeBron James.
We'll see you in the playoffs.
I don't even dislike the Heat, but I'm reading a lot of this stuff lately... "Good luck going from this franchise to that franchise."
It's intended to be insulting and it is.
I have no ill will towards Miami. In fact, I was openly against James prolonging this announcement because I felt sorry for Miami fans. Although, you were probably ready for it to happen. :oldlol:
jrong
07-12-2014, 03:41 AM
I don't even dislike the Heat, but I'm reading a lot of this stuff lately... "Good luck going from this franchise to that franchise."
It's intended to be insulting and it is.
I have no ill will towards Miami. In fact, I was openly against James prolonging this announcement because I felt sorry for Miami fans. Although, you were probably ready for it to happen. :oldlol:
Damn straight. Who I feel sorry for is Kyrie though. Wade was at least able to maintain his rep for a year, but I don't see K.I. holding it for that long.
In another thread I called James the ultimate eggs-in-one-basket player. And that's what he is. If you're riding with LeBron James, you're riding LeBron James. He's incapable of playing any other way.
The only question is when Kyrie is diminished, will the media FINALLY do the math and identify the common denominator? Or will they, with no self-awareness whatsoever, sound the clarion call that LeBron needs more help yet AGAIN?
Number24
07-12-2014, 03:51 AM
I was a Cavs fan prior to 2010 solely because of LeBron. Then he left for Miami and I knew Cleveland would blow hard, so I hopped onto Miami's bandwagon and got to see the greatest player ever since Jordan win 2 titles and play for 4 in a row. I literally did not watch a single Cavs game from 2010 - 2014, with the exception of Heat vs. Cavs. It was all Heat for me.
Now that LeBron's back in Cleveland, the Cavs are back and are gonna rule the league. Miami is stuck with Wade's corpse and Bosh's soft, rebound-allergic, perimeter-shooting self on a MAX contract. :oldlol:
Miami ain't winning sh-t for a long time and I ain't going to watch a single game. But I can assure you that I'll watch and vigorously root for the Cavs now that LeBron is back.
You got a problem with bandwagoning? Too bad.......:coleman:
Cool... At least you have the decency to admit it. Wait and see, many newborn members will be flooding the forum in the coming days starting today! July-born! :facepalm
Same, but I will always be a LeBron fan.
I need an interpreter on this one... Elaborate!
RedBlackAttack
07-12-2014, 04:07 AM
Damn straight. Who I feel sorry for is Kyrie though. Wade was at least able to maintain his rep for a year, but I don't see K.I. holding it for that long.
In another thread I called James the ultimate eggs-in-one-basket player. And that's what he is. If you're riding with LeBron James, you're riding LeBron James. He's incapable of playing any other way.
The only question is when Kyrie is diminished, will the media FINALLY do the math and identify the common denominator? Or will they, with no self-awareness whatsoever, sound the clarion call that LeBron needs more help yet AGAIN?
I'd be lying if I said this isn't a real concern I have. However, I will respond with a few points that could separate this team from ones he has dominated in the past.
First, this team was realistically three years or so away from truly contending for a title and that's if everything went really well. By then, James will be 33 and likely diminished. That means there is a window here where he can still do his prime LeBron stuff which will probably make us a contender just based on his ridiculous talent and our young legs. That could provide invaluable deep playoff experience that may have not happened for a while otherwise.
Second, LeBron has never played with a true point, and Kyrie can also really fill it up as a spot-up shooter too. I'm hoping maybe he sees this, along with Irving's ridiculous handle, and finally begins to operate more out of the post instead of pounding the ball into the ground every possession.
Third, a guy like Andrew Wiggins, who is not good right now as a shot creator, can actually flourish by doing the little things until he's ready to take the reigns. When LeBron is 35, he'll be 25. Kyrie will be 28 (and still under contract).
We will see. It's a fascinating departure from teams he has been on in the past.
Damn straight. Who I feel sorry for is Kyrie though. Wade was at least able to maintain his rep for a year, but I don't see K.I. holding it for that long.
In another thread I called James the ultimate eggs-in-one-basket player. And that's what he is. If you're riding with LeBron James, you're riding LeBron James. He's incapable of playing any other way.
The only question is when Kyrie is diminished, will the media FINALLY do the math and identify the common denominator? Or will they, with no self-awareness whatsoever, sound the clarion call that LeBron needs more help yet AGAIN?
Why is it Lebron gets blamed for Wade's decline? How does that even make sense? Wade played great when his health held up when Lebron was on the court. Best team in the nba no exceptions.
If Kyrie Irving is as good as proclaimed (he probably isnt) he wont decline at all. He should flourish now that he wont be the focus of the defense. Let's see if he is actually good or if he was just padding stats on a bad team because no one else was competent.
2010splash
07-12-2014, 07:55 AM
Not a chance in hell. A four year body of work does not eclipse an 11 year one. Especially when LeBron really only led the Heat to a net of one title since he cost them the other one (and no, he didn't lead the team that year, he just torpedoed their championship chance, quite possibly intentionally, once he realized he had no shot at FMVP).
Don't kid yourself pal. LeBron pretty much single-handedly led Miami to 2 titles in a row and 4 Finals appearances. 2011 was the only year Wade was even close to him. Since then, he sucked hard.
2012 - LeBron is a one man show, dragging an injured Bosh who missed half the playoffs and an injured Wade with one knee to the title.
2013 - Both Wade and Bosh suck hard in the playoffs, yet LeBron (with a little help from Allen) is 90% responsible for their title, including a legendary Game 7 Finals performance.
2014 - Beasted, from day 1 of the regular season to the last game of the Finals. Was let down by his pathetic "superstar" teammates Wade and Bosh who did NOTHING in the Finals.
And don't forget, 2 regular season MVPs and 2 Finals MVPs IN A ROW. Wade doesn't even have 1 MVP.
LeBron = GOAT Heat. Not even close.
2010splash
07-12-2014, 07:57 AM
2003-2010-Cleveland fan
2010-2014-Miami fan
2014 onwards-Cleveland fan
:lol
Yeah that's exactly right.
2010splash
07-12-2014, 07:59 AM
I have no problem with player fans as long as they admit what they are. You aren't doing that. Let's be crystal clear, here, so there is no confusion. You're a LeBron James fan, not a Cavs fan.
That is an important distinction. Outside of that, knock yourself out.
Fair enough. But I will watch all Cavs games from now on and not a single Heat game except for when they play each other. Just like I ditched the Cavs in 2010 when LeBron left.
2010splash
07-12-2014, 08:01 AM
Banners? As in more than one? Lulz.
LeBron could barely managed two on a super stacked team in a feeble conference, he'll be 32-33 by the time these young Cavs are ready for a title. He might be too old for you by then. You'll have to find a younger player to slurp.
Pat Riley vs the village idiot Dan Gilbert. Yeah, I'll take Miami over the Cadavers in the long run.
Lay off the crack son. Miami "stacked"?:roll:
Wade and Bosh have been garbage for a long time now. This ain't 2010. Not LeBron's fault his teammates are washed up.
The Cavs are gonna be a dynasty imo. It'll only be a matter of time before they swing a deal for Love. LeBron, Kyrie and Love is unstoppable imo.
sportjames23
07-12-2014, 08:02 AM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/kobe-bryant-lol-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-1660.gif
/thread
La Frescobaldi
07-12-2014, 08:04 AM
I'm joining you.
:wtf:
A Hawks fan bailing for Cleveland tho?
lbj must be the only dude that could ever make that happen
Lay off the crack son. Miami "stacked"?:roll:
Wade and Bosh have been garbage for a long time now. This ain't 2010. Not LeBron's fault his teammates are washed up.
The Cavs are gonna be a dynasty imo. It'll only be a matter of time before they swing a deal for Love. LeBron, Kyrie and Love is unstoppable imo.
Miami was never as stacked as they should have been. Quite a shame really. Team would have been running the league. :facepalm
How did Love and Kyrie go from overrated stat padders to dynasty material? :oldlol:
They are solid players, but I have a sneaking suspicion that 2011-2012 Wade, Lebron, and Bosh are better than 2014- Lebron, Love, and Kyrie.
2010splash
07-12-2014, 08:13 AM
Miami was never as stacked as they should have been. Quite a shame really. Team would have been running the league. :facepalm
How did Love and Kyrie go from overrated stat padders to dynasty material? :oldlol:
They are solid players, but I have a sneaking suspicion that 2011-2012 Wade, Lebron, and Bosh are better than 2014- Lebron, Love, and Kyrie.
First things first, Bosh sucks. The dude is getting maxed out for camping out 20 feet from the rim to fling up wide open threes all day. That's all this softie does. No banging, no rebounding, no posting up... Nothing.
Love can do exactly what Bosh does and at a much higher volume AND percentage. Think about that - he can fling up way more threes than Bosh and do it at a 37-39% clip, which is outrageous for a PF. And he happens to be a top 2 rebounder and elite passer as well. Way better than Bosh.
And I'd take Kyrie over Wade easily. He's also a lights out shooter and a better fit next to LeBron. Wade can't shoot a lick and is old.
First things first, Bosh sucks. The dude is getting maxed out for camping out 20 feet from the rim to fling up wide open threes all day. That's all this softie does. No banging, no rebounding, no posting up... Nothing.
Love can do exactly what Bosh does and at a much higher volume AND percentage. Think about that - he can fling up way more threes than Bosh and do it at a 37-39% clip, which is outrageous for a PF. And he happens to be a top 2 rebounder and elite passer as well. Way better than Bosh.
And I'd take Kyrie over Wade easily. He's also a lights out shooter and a better fit next to LeBron. Wade can't shoot a lick and is old.
Love can rebound but he isnt much tougher than Bosh. He isnt much of a post player or banger. Great rebound instincts, but his defense will be much worse than Bosh. At least Bosh was a great pick and roll defender.
Im not even sure if Kyrie was better than 2014 Wade. :oldlol:
Rondo
07-12-2014, 08:28 AM
Who cares, just enjoy basketball however you want it really....
Personally i am just honest to myself, as a Euro, Croatian, ex. Yugoslavian, i feel true connection only to one team and that is from my country/city, i became a NBA fan because of great basketball, namely a player/players (Larry Bird and then MJ, Reggie Miller etc.) got me into it..... i was rooting for their success, but in doing so i hence ofcourse automatically rooted for their teams success.... and i love it this way, i feel free, free from team stan bias, free from restrictions, free from disrespecting a team/player and hence disrespect great basketball in honor of my favorite team..... i can just enjoy great basketball, no matter where it comes from, player or team.... You can do that as a team fan aswell, dont get me wrong.... but most often, it isnt the case... being a team fan can be noble, but is not as noble as they would love to think.... there is no right or wrong here, just enjoy basketball however it pleases you....
I'm a fan of a team before any player and I enjoyed watching the Spurs this past season. You can still appreciate good basketball.
Bandwagon fans will never understand the feelings true fans feel. It means much more to the kid who's followed 1 team his entire life and went through the painful lows and the euphoric highs than it does some guy who's just suddenly become a fan of said team because a certain player has joined.
TheMan
07-12-2014, 08:40 AM
The funny thing is, if the youngster develope into the stars they're projected to be, LeBron will be in a position to win a chip or two like Duncan, still a great player but no longer the best player in his team but getting dem rings :applause:
BCardinalMVP
07-12-2014, 09:06 AM
OP you should be ashamed,
you're a piece of shit bandwagon fgt
bro
2010splash
07-13-2014, 11:21 AM
http://www.fairviewparkchamber.org/cleveland_cavaliers_logo-1024x768.jpg
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
2010splash
03-11-2015, 06:23 PM
2014splash :bowdown:
:rockon:
J Shuttlesworth
03-11-2015, 06:24 PM
:rockon:
:applause: :applause:
Quickening
03-11-2015, 06:27 PM
Never really understood why fans of teams think this somehow makes them better people or something... as though mindlessly supporting a business, especially if they have no affinity with that team is honourable :lol
I watch basketball because I enjoy it, and I follow players I enjoy watching. :pimp:
J Shuttlesworth
03-11-2015, 06:32 PM
Never really understood why fans of teams think this somehow makes them better people or something... as though mindlessly supporting a business, especially if they have no affinity with that team is honourable :lol
I watch basketball because I enjoy it, and I follow players I enjoy watching. :pimp:
Yeah I totally get having loyalty to an organization if you live in the city... but if you're from a city that doesn't have an NBA team, why would you stick to watching/rooting for a single team that you have no connection with? You're essentially rooting for the owners/managers of a team. Most of us like to watch basketball because of the players. I'll never understand why someone from Europe would have a loyalty to... say the Utah Jazz. It just doesn't make sense
Spurs m8
03-11-2015, 06:39 PM
Imagine changing teams as an adult LOLOLOL
No respect
2010splash
03-11-2015, 06:42 PM
Fans of terrible teams are the biggest joke. I can understand at least if you're a Rockets, Clippers, Warriors, etc fan because while those teams haven't won sh*t ever/in a while, at least they're good enough now realistically to give them a puncher's chance at winning.
But fans of the Jazz, Raptors, Hornets, Knicks, Sixers, Kings, etc? Your teams are all fricking garbage and they will suck hard for a long time. You are wasting your life watching a bunch of scrubs who provide absolutely no entertainment whatsoever. Continue wasting your life watching crappy teams. :oldlol: :oldlol:
Quickening
03-11-2015, 06:45 PM
Yeah I totally get having loyalty to an organization if you live in the city... but if you're from a city that doesn't have an NBA team, why would you stick to watching/rooting for a single team that you have no connection with? You're essentially rooting for the owners/managers of a team. Most of us like to watch basketball because of the players. I'll never understand why someone from Europe would have a loyalty to... say the Utah Jazz. It just doesn't make sense
Exactly, I am from the UK. I don't give a chit about any indiviual team, then people will cry because I follow Lebron from Miami to Cleveland. :bowdown:
plowking
03-11-2015, 06:55 PM
I don't get bandwagoning, even if you aren't from a city with a team.
You basically support a player, which in most cases, as is with bandwagoning, is top 3 at worst, and you watch them play, hope they do well, and in general the team. But in the end, you really don't care about the team, and you're essentially rooting for a guy to become rated highly on an arbitrary list of rankings made by fans.
There are never really any lows since you're almost always rooting for the best...
Why not pick a team, watch them grow, cheer for new players with different strengths, etc?
ButterFace
03-11-2015, 06:57 PM
I'm a Cavs fan now, and I have no shame in admitting it
You should feel shame.
Legends66NBA7
03-11-2015, 07:00 PM
Yeah I totally get having loyalty to an organization if you live in the city... but if you're from a city that doesn't have an NBA team, why would you stick to watching/rooting for a single team that you have no connection with? You're essentially rooting for the owners/managers of a team. Most of us like to watch basketball because of the players. I'll never understand why someone from Europe would have a loyalty to... say the Utah Jazz. It just doesn't make sense
I'm essentially that way with the NFL.
Some Torontonians I know support the Buffalo Bills because they are the closest team to the city and because the Bills have played a couple of their regular season games in the Skydome. But I myself don't support the Bills directly because I don't have much history with Buffalo, outside of traveling there a lot of touring and shopping.
Who knows, maybe I might support a team for some reason ? Family connection ? I move to another city ? Would be cool, but I still love the league/sport regardless.
Quickening
03-11-2015, 07:00 PM
I don't get bandwagoning, even if you aren't from a city with a team.
You basically support a player, which in most cases, as is with bandwagoning, is top 3 at worst, and you watch them play, hope they do well, and in general the team. But in the end, you really don't care about the team, and you're essentially rooting for a guy to become rated highly on an arbitrary list of rankings made by fans.
There are never really any lows since you're almost always rooting for the best...
Why not pick a team, watch them grow, cheer for new players with different strengths, etc?
Yes there is no lows to supporting good players, lebron never fails... and neither does Durant etc they win titles every year :confusedshrug:
Fans of teams are essentially rooting for a business/owners they have no affinity to, making more money and winning championships... possibly not even enjoying the brand of basketball they play. But they have to keep following them because its frowned upon not to :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
RedBlackAttack
03-11-2015, 07:02 PM
I don't get bandwagoning, even if you aren't from a city with a team.
You basically support a player, which in most cases, as is with bandwagoning, is top 3 at worst, and you watch them play, hope they do well, and in general the team. But in the end, you really don't care about the team, and you're essentially rooting for a guy to become rated highly on an arbitrary list of rankings made by fans.
There are never really any lows since you're almost always rooting for the best...
Why not pick a team, watch them grow, cheer for new players with different strengths, etc?
That's the part that gets me. I'm being honest when I say the years that LeBron was gone -- from 2011-14 -- were extremely interesting for me as a fan of the Cavs. There is something to be said for having a real, vested interest in the draft lottery, then the draft itself... then watching those players grow from their first preseason game through their rookie seasons and beyond... then to watch and see lottery talents paired together, or those young guys combined with established free agents...
Rebuilds can be extremely interesting in a completely different way than just randomly picking the best teams every couple years.
I can't see the fun in that, though. Watching the players grow and the team come together is all a part of what makes the years when the winning starts so fun.
I'm from the city, so it was always easy for me... there was never even really a choice involved. But, with that said, bandwagoning seems like it would be extremely boring.
2010splash
03-11-2015, 07:02 PM
I don't get bandwagoning, even if you aren't from a city with a team.
You basically support a player, which in most cases, as is with bandwagoning, is top 3 at worst, and you watch them play, hope they do well, and in general the team. But in the end, you really don't care about the team, and you're essentially rooting for a guy to become rated highly on an arbitrary list of rankings made by fans.
There are never really any lows since you're almost always rooting for the best...
Why not pick a team, watch them grow, cheer for new players with different strengths, etc?
Because what you don't understand is that life is short, and you are wasting it by watching a terrible product. If a TV show or movie gets awful ratings for being bad, why would you invest your time/money in watching it? It's a complete waste of time as it provides you no pleasure/entertainment.
Why would I have wasted 4 years of my life from 2010-2014 continuing to watch the worthless Cavs as they averaged the worst winning percentage in the entire league during the post-LeBron era? There was nothing worth watching there. Miami was ruling the East and winning titles, and that's where I took my viewership to.
Same with the Heat now. I laugh my arse off at the "true" Heat fans who continue to watch their incredibly mediocre first-round exit of a team. It's just a complete waste of time to watch a bad product.
The Cavs are going to be entertaining to watch because they have the best players and they will win lots of games and likely titles. That is worth the investment of my time. Crap teams are not.
coin24
03-11-2015, 07:03 PM
Exactly, I am from the UK. I don't give a chit about any indiviual team, then people will cry because I follow Lebron from Miami to Cleveland. :bowdown:
shameless bandwagoner... :kobe:
2010splash
03-11-2015, 07:06 PM
That's the part that gets me. I'm being honest when I say the years that LeBron was gone -- from 2011-14 -- were extremely interesting for me as a fan of the Cavs. There is something to be said for having a real, vested interest in the draft lottery, then the draft itself... then watching those players grow from their first preseason game through their rookie seasons and beyond... then to watch and see lottery talents paired together, or those young guys combined with established free agents...
Rebuilds can be extremely interesting in a completely different way than just randomly picking the best teams every couple years.
I can't see the fun in that, though. Watching the players grow and the team come together is all a part of what makes the years when the winning starts so fun.
I'm from the city, so it was always easy for me... there was never even really a choice involved. But, with that said, bandwagoning seems like it would be extremely boring.
Yes, and you watched fat busts like Anthony Bennett contribute to 15-win teams. I personally would never have wasted a second of my life watching such a horrifically bad product, but to each his own.
plowking
03-11-2015, 07:07 PM
Yes there is no lows to supporting good players, lebron never fails... and neither does Durant etc they win titles every year :confusedshrug:
Fans of teams are essentially rooting for a business/owners they have no affinity to, making more money and winning championships... possibly not even enjoying the brand of basketball they play. But they have to keep following them because its frowned upon not to :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
You're rooting for the business and owners too. You buy Lebron merchandise, watch Lebron, etc.
If I don't like the product, I watch less.
coin24
03-11-2015, 07:07 PM
Because what you don't understand is that life is short, and you are wasting it by watching a terrible product. If a TV show or movie gets awful ratings for being bad, why would you invest your time/money in watching it? It's a complete waste of time as it provides you no pleasure/entertainment.
Why would I have wasted 4 years of my life from 2010-2014 continuing to watch the worthless Cavs as they averaged the worst winning percentage in the entire league during the post-LeBron era? There was nothing worth watching there. Miami was ruling the East and winning titles, and that's where I took my viewership to.
Same with the Heat now. I laugh my arse off at the "true" Heat fans who continue to watch their incredible mediocre first-round exit of a team. It's just a complete waste of time to watch a bad product.
The Cavs are going to be entertaining to watch because they have the best players and they will win lots of games and likely titles. That is worth the investment of my time. Crap teams are not.
Being a fan of a team doesnt mean you cant watch other games on your league pass:lol
Of course you will watch other big match ups, which in the regular season isnt that many lately.. Its the f@ggot LeBron stans that go around claiming theyre a diehard fan of the team he goes to, which they clearly arent.
plowking
03-11-2015, 07:09 PM
Because what you don't understand is that life is short, and you are wasting it by watching a terrible product. If a TV show or movie gets awful ratings for being bad, why would you invest your time/money in watching it? It's a complete waste of time as it provides you no pleasure/entertainment.
Not even comparable. Bron hasn't been the most consistent in the league this season, yet you watch him. Same logic.
Same with the Heat now. I laugh my arse off at the "true" Heat fans who continue to watch their incredibly mediocre first-round exit of a team. It's just a complete waste of time to watch a bad product.
I enjoy watching Whiteside, Beasley and Dragic. Wade too at times these days.
The Cavs are going to be entertaining to watch because they have the best players and they will win lots of games and likely titles. That is worth the investment of my time. Crap teams are not.
Going by your argument, so far this season the Hawks and GSW are the ones worth your time.
2010splash
03-11-2015, 07:12 PM
Not even comparable. Bron hasn't been the most consistent in the league this season, yet you watch him. Same logic.
I enjoy watching Whiteside, Beasley and Dragic. Wade too at times these days.
Going by your argument, so far this season the Hawks and GSW are the ones worth your time.
LeBron is still the best player in the league and the Cavs are massive favorites to win it all.
Beasley is awful and Dragic and Whiteside are role players who aren't capable of leading a team past the first round.
Nobody takes the Hawks seriously, and the Warriors will not win the title. Regardless, neither of these teams have ever proven anything before this season.
History shows you need an all-time great superstar to win titles. LeBron, Durant, Westbrook, Davis, etc - these are the guys who should get the most viewership. Enjoy mediocrity though. I'll be watching something that is actually worth watching.
Legends66NBA7
03-11-2015, 07:15 PM
Being a fan of a team doesnt mean you cant watch other games on your league pass:lol
Of course you will watch other big match ups, which in the regular season isnt that many lately..
Not only the league pass, but there's links like NBA replay online and PVR games so that you can always watch the games even after they are done.
And even when my team sucks (Toronto always has sucked for the most part), I still enjoy the rest of the league no matter what. I can never miss playoff games or the Finals, regardless of the opponents.
plowking
03-11-2015, 07:15 PM
LeBron is still the best player in the league and the Cavs are massive favorites to win it all.
Beasley is awful and Dragic and Whiteside are role players who aren't capable of leading a team past the first round.
Nobody takes the Hawks seriously, and the Warriors will not win the title. Regardless, neither of these teams have ever proven anything before this season.
History shows you need an all-time great superstar to win titles. LeBron, Durant, Westbrook, Davis, etc - these are the guys who should get the most viewership. Enjoy mediocrity though. I'll be watching something that is actually worth watching.
Again, stupid logic.
You're acting like everyone likes the same movies, and should do so. There is taste and opinion when it comes to things.
I don't get the whole bandwagon thing, I don't care if you are or not, but your reasoning is as stupid as it gets, and you act all elitist about it, which I don't get. :oldlol:
You're a kid following a grown man's career around. There isn't anything to be elitist about. :oldlol:
nba_55
03-11-2015, 07:15 PM
I don't get bandwagoning, even if you aren't from a city with a team.
You basically support a player, which in most cases, as is with bandwagoning, is top 3 at worst, and you watch them play, hope they do well, and in general the team. But in the end, you really don't care about the team, and you're essentially rooting for a guy to become rated highly on an arbitrary list of rankings made by fans.
There are never really any lows since you're almost always rooting for the best...
Why not pick a team, watch them grow, cheer for new players with different strengths, etc?
It depends on tastes, I watch and root for what brings me enjoyment and entertainment, watching scrubs teams grow doesn't entertainment, why would I invest my time in that?
2010splash
03-11-2015, 07:22 PM
It depends on tastes, I watch and root for what brings me enjoyment and entertainment, watching scrubs teams grow doesn't entertainment, why would I invest my time in that?
Owned.
/thread.
JebronLames
03-11-2015, 07:26 PM
Being mad about someone being a LeBron fan is pathetic.
eeeeeebro
03-11-2015, 07:28 PM
I would like to put it out there that lebron left cause wades knees were bad and bosh just sucks ass there are 3 max contract players looking for a raise and cleavland got 3 #1 draft picks in a row. IT WAS HE THE KING OF FAIRWEATHER that decided to jump ship... its cool cause no matter what resigning with a team that is willing to blow cap space on a person with bad Knee is just a bad ideal ALSO betraying WADE by forcing Miami to not resign him is also BOGUS. HE was loyal to wade for letting him get a pay check and bosh for letting him get paid.. WHILE leaving to get more WINS in Cavs. No hard feelings at all over this BUT i hated lebron all his years so i still hate him.. BAND WAGON people will always exist cause of BAD GM's so if you want lebrons X in your mouth well suck on it nobody cares just enjoy your basketball homie.
plowking
03-11-2015, 07:29 PM
Owned.
/thread.
Bandwagoning on another mans argument.
Shit runs deep to the core within you.
nba_55
03-11-2015, 07:32 PM
I would like to put it out there that lebron left cause wades knees were bad and bosh just sucks ass there are 3 max contract players looking for a raise and cleavland got 3 #1 draft picks in a row. IT WAS HE THE KING OF FAIRWEATHER that decided to jump ship... its cool cause no matter what resigning with a team that is willing to blow cap space on a person with bad Knee is just a bad ideal ALSO betraying WADE by forcing Miami to not resign him is also BOGUS. HE was loyal to wade for letting him get a pay check and bosh for letting him get paid.. WHILE leaving to get more WINS in Cavs. No hard feelings at all over this BUT i hated lebron all his years so i still hate him.. BAND WAGON people will always exist cause of BAD GM's so if you want lebrons X in your mouth well suck on it nobody cares just enjoy your basketball homie.
You rather have 12 men X in your mouth at the same time. RESPECT to you! :applause:
eeeeeebro
03-11-2015, 07:38 PM
i dont root for a player i root for the city and as far as i know CITIES dont have X
nba_55
03-11-2015, 07:42 PM
i dont root for a player i root for the city and as far as i know CITIES dont have X
Your mouth is wide open right in front of the city's gate, you suck whoever comes to that city. RESPECT to you.
RedBlackAttack
03-11-2015, 07:43 PM
Saying that your life has been wasted based on how well or poorly your favorite teams/players perform is one of the most pathetic arguments I have ever had the misfortune of stumbling into. :oldlol:
FFS
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Richesly
03-11-2015, 08:05 PM
So, you worship another human being?
That's really pathetic.
Quickening
03-11-2015, 08:19 PM
So, you worship another human being?
That's really pathetic.
Yes worshipping a team is so much more noble :lol
sportsfan76
03-11-2015, 08:22 PM
I bookmarked this thread so I can get in touch with the OP when the Cavs fail in may:D
2010splash
03-11-2015, 08:24 PM
So, you worship another human being?
That's really pathetic.
I don't worship anyone, fool. What LeBron James does outside of the 2.5 hours that each basketball game takes I give exactly zero sh*ts about. What any of these players do that doesn't relate to their job of putting an orange ball into a basket I do not care about.
I will view what I find enjoyable to watch and entertaining. That happens to be LeBron James, the greatest athlete of the modern era and possibly the greatest player of all-time.
Other pathetic fans can continue watching "their teams grow" and be "loyal through the ups and downs" as if it actually means anything. Because newsflash: it means nothing!!!
The day LeBron retires, I'll go watch the Thunder, assuming Durant/Westbrook are still dominant, and the Pelicans, assuming Davis is still there is that dump.
Big Cheese
03-11-2015, 08:29 PM
idc about the people who follow superstars from team to team. You can root for whoever/whatever you want.
However, I have no respect for the superstar fans that tries to talk shit to the true fans that sticks with their team through good times and bad times, which is a large majority of them.
warriorfan
03-11-2015, 08:47 PM
fans follow teams, stans stan players
Nuff Said
03-11-2015, 09:20 PM
I don't get bandwagoning, even if you aren't from a city with a team.
You basically support a player, which in most cases, as is with bandwagoning, is top 3 at worst, and you watch them play, hope they do well, and in general the team. But in the end, you really don't care about the team, and you're essentially rooting for a guy to become rated highly on an arbitrary list of rankings made by fans.
There are never really any lows since you're almost always rooting for the best...
Why not pick a team, watch them grow, cheer for new players with different strengths, etc?
That's not even the definition of bandwagon. A bandwagon fan is not a diehard, loyal fan so someone who follows their favorite player to the ends of the worth cannot be classified as bandwagon. Bandwagon would be like someone who was a lakers fan during the three peat to a Miami fan during their run. They have no LOYALTY. By definition you cannot be a bandwagon fan and be loyal. They're two different things. Lebron fans stick with him no matter what, even when he suffers horrible losses or embarrasses himself.
sportsfan76
03-11-2015, 09:22 PM
That's not even the definition of bandwagon. A bandwagon fan is not a diehard, loyal fan so someone who follows their favorite player to the ends of the worth cannot be classified as bandwagon. Bandwagon would be like someone who was a lakers fan during the three peat to a Miami fan during their run. They have no LOYALTY. By definition you cannot be a bandwagon fan and be loyal. They're two different things. Lebron fans stick with him no matter what, even when he suffers horrible losses or embarrasses himself.
Well I was a lebron fan until he decided to leave Miami after a loss in the Finals
That's gay
poido123
03-11-2015, 10:11 PM
OP is not alone.
There's a lot of these pathetic kids on here who don't have what it takes to follow a team.
Not everyone is cut out to ride the ups and downs.
how do I support a team if I literally have no interest in any of them? Do I force myself?
I am a loyal supporter of a local soccer team and its not like I don't know how it feels to support a team but there is no team that I root for in the USA.
J Shuttlesworth
03-12-2015, 02:03 AM
OP is not alone.
There's a lot of these pathetic kids on here who don't have what it takes to follow a team.
Not everyone is cut out to ride the ups and downs.
lol @ "having what it takes" to follow a team.
It's watching a sport. It's not going to war. It doesn't take any type of special toughness to sit on the couch and watch the same team every day
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 02:08 AM
lol @ "having what it takes" to follow a team.
It's watching a sport. It's not going to war. It doesn't take any type of special toughness to sit on the couch and watch the same team every day
Easy saying that when you just root for whatever team LeBron is playing for :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
***** sorry excuse for a fan, root for your hometeam and never switch or you are a nothing but a poser ass snitch.
Heavincent
03-12-2015, 02:11 AM
I'm fine with bandwagoning in basketball. It's lame in football because it's only 16 games. You can suck it up, but baksetball is an extremely long 82 game season. Who the hell wants to sit there watching shit for that long? **** that. I'm not gonna support a bad product for that long. Hell, some teams don't even try to win. Why should the fans be expected to support that non sense?
The problem I have with Bran stans is that they follow one player around wherever he goes and then shit on all of his teammates to prop up Bran. That's weird and I don't see how it's fun.
J Shuttlesworth
03-12-2015, 02:16 AM
Easy saying that when you just root for whatever team LeBron is playing for :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
***** sorry excuse for a fan, root for your hometeam and never switch or you are a nothing but a poser ass snitch.
What's even worse is people who care about the reasons other people root for teams.
I don't have a "hometeam" so why should I have an allegiance to a team? I don't give a shit about organizations/owners, I like watching players. I'll always be a bigger fan of basketball than any individual player/team.
If I lived where there was an NBA team, I would probably cheer for it.
Props to OP for telling it like it is, but what he did is still pretty damn beta
Milbuck
03-12-2015, 02:17 AM
Under my dislike for Lebron stans and really Lebron himself, I get the player fans' mentality. It's not that unreasonable to be totally enamored with a player's game. I'm getting to that point with Giannis, he's not there yet but he's getting there. There are games where I'm rooting for him to do well over the team doing well, sometimes I get pissed when other players on our team do well at Giannis' expense. Part of it is because he's 20 years old with a ton of potential, and I'm just prioritizing his development over ~.500-level team success..but a lot of it is because I'm just way too attached to him as a player.
The difference that matters imo is between the player fans who are honest about being player fans..and the obnoxious dipshit player fans who put on the team fan persona as if everyone can't see through their garbage. The garden variety trolls will troll, don't even consider them people.
KirbyPls
03-12-2015, 02:21 AM
I'm fine with bandwagoning in basketball. It's lame in football because it's only 16 games. You can suck it up, but baksetball is an extremely long 82 game season. Who the hell wants to sit there watching shit for that long? **** that. I'm not gonna support a bad product for that long. Hell, some teams don't even try to win. Why should the fans be expected to support that non sense?
The problem I have with Bran stans is that they follow one player around wherever he goes and then shit on all of his teammates to prop up Bran. That's weird and I don't see how it's fun.
I agree. :cheers: He's my favorite player, but he has no chips or legacy without huge contributions from his team,,,as it should be.
Paul George 24
03-12-2015, 02:41 AM
I was a Cavs fan prior to 2010 solely because of LeBron. Then he left for Miami and I knew Cleveland would blow hard, so I hopped onto Miami's bandwagon and got to see the greatest player ever since Jordan win 2 titles and play for 4 in a row. I literally did not watch a single Cavs game from 2010 - 2014, with the exception of Heat vs. Cavs. It was all Heat for me.
Now that LeBron's back in Cleveland, the Cavs are back and are gonna rule the league. Miami is stuck with Wade's corpse and Bosh's soft, rebound-allergic, perimeter-shooting self on a MAX contract. :oldlol:
Miami ain't winning sh-t for a long time and I ain't going to watch a single game. But I can assure you that I'll watch and vigorously root for the Cavs now that LeBron is back.
You got a problem with bandwagoning? Too bad.......:coleman:
bandwagon :roll:
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 02:44 AM
:bowdown:
What's even worse is people who care about the reasons other people root for teams.
I don't have a "hometeam" so why should I have an allegiance to a team? I don't give a shit about organizations/owners, I like watching players. I'll always be a bigger fan of basketball than any individual player/team.
If I lived where there was an NBA team, I would probably cheer for it.
Root for the closest team to you or perhaps you may get a pass to root for the team where your parents are from....anything else is bitchmade front runner stan shit. Fake fans that should be ashamed of themselves.
:coleman: :coleman: :coleman:
Megabox!
03-12-2015, 04:05 AM
:bowdown:
Root for the closest team to you or perhaps you may get a pass to root for the team where your parents are from....anything else is bitchmade front runner stan shit. Fake fans that should be ashamed of themselves.
:coleman: :coleman: :coleman:
So there's some type of universal rule on who to root for now? So what about NBA fans in China or England?? Should they all root for the closest team to them too? :facepalm root for whoever the f*ck you want, who gives a shit
poido123
03-12-2015, 04:37 AM
So there's some type of universal rule on who to root for now? So what about NBA fans in China or England?? Should they all root for the closest team to them too? :facepalm root for whoever the f*ck you want, who gives a shit
I don't entirely agree with the whole "closest town" notion, but it isn't hard to pick a team with a player you like and root for them.
I can't understand why anyone would want to follow around a male player like a groupie unless you're gay?
Cocaine80s
03-12-2015, 04:44 AM
Truthfully im not even a Lebron fan
Im just a Cleveland fan who happens to have the best player in the world on his team. Cleveland fan since 03 checking in
poido123
03-12-2015, 04:45 AM
Truthfully im not even a Lebron fan
Im just a Cleveland fan who happens to have the best player in the world on his team. Cleveland fan since 03 checking in
:eek:
:coleman:
YouGotServed
03-12-2015, 05:05 AM
Truthfully im not even a Lebron fan
Im just a Cleveland fan who happens to have the best player in the world on his team. Cleveland fan since 03 checking in
:lol
ILLsmak
03-12-2015, 06:00 AM
I'm fine with bandwagoning in basketball. It's lame in football because it's only 16 games. You can suck it up, but baksetball is an extremely long 82 game season. Who the hell wants to sit there watching shit for that long? **** that. I'm not gonna support a bad product for that long. Hell, some teams don't even try to win. Why should the fans be expected to support that non sense?
The problem I have with Bran stans is that they follow one player around wherever he goes and then shit on all of his teammates to prop up Bran. That's weird and I don't see how it's fun.
I was always a player fan. People are more interesting to me, the individual opposed to the group.
It's just like if you decided to be the fan of some scrub because you liked the way he played and would always tune in... is that bad? I don't think so.
You could argue blind loyalty to the local team is just like being brand-owned. It doesn't take any creativity to do that.
When people purposely pick the best team with the best player on it and talk mad shit, they are annoying. You can live in the city of the best team and still be an annoying bandwagoner.
If you wanna like the best team, that's cool... but to go shit-talk other teams after jumping on a bandwagon is some beta shit. That's the issue, to me.
Just being a fan is cool no matter who you wanna rep. I don't buy into that whole paying your dues as a fan. Like I said it's basically getting owned by media... paying for your t shirt, your hat, so you can say you're a good fan. **** that.
-Smak
Spurs m8
03-12-2015, 06:15 AM
I don't think it matters why you support a team, as long as you stay with that team.
I subconsciously judge people who switch teams haha
Cocaine80s
03-12-2015, 06:23 AM
What's wrong with a player fan switching teams?
Say you're an Anthony Davis fan and he leaves for a team like the Suns. Are you expected to remain a Pelican fan?
poido123
03-12-2015, 06:26 AM
What's wrong with a player fan switching teams?
Say you're an Anthony Davis fan and he leaves for a team like the Suns. Are you expected to remain a Pelican fan?
You would understand if you were a longtime team fan, which is why you don't get it.
tomtucker
03-12-2015, 06:28 AM
I was a Cavs fan prior to 2010 solely because of LeBron. Then he left for Miami and I knew Cleveland would blow hard, so I hopped onto Miami's bandwagon and got to see the greatest player ever since Jordan win 2 titles and play for 4 in a row. I literally did not watch a single Cavs game from 2010 - 2014, with the exception of Heat vs. Cavs. It was all Heat for me.
Now that LeBron's back in Cleveland, the Cavs are back and are gonna rule the league. Miami is stuck with Wade's corpse and Bosh's soft, rebound-allergic, perimeter-shooting self on a MAX contract. :oldlol:
Miami ain't winning sh-t for a long time and I ain't going to watch a single game. But I can assure you that I'll watch and vigorously root for the Cavs now that LeBron is back.
You got a problem with bandwagoning? Too bad.......:coleman:
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What a fukking bitch you are..:mad: :facepalm ................and miami are alot more fun to watch this year, they are having alot more fun without the diva lebron .........**** the cavs and lebron and his bitch slaves he called to join him
Cocaine80s
03-12-2015, 06:30 AM
You would understand if you were a longtime team fan, which is why you don't get it.
Says the Jordan Stan from Australia
poido123
03-12-2015, 06:34 AM
Says the Jordan Stan from Australia
Jordan stan assumed because I root for the Bulls?
I haven't posted more or less about Jordan than pretty much any other player on the Bulls team.
3ball and you might have a point. :hammerhead:
Spurs m8
03-12-2015, 06:37 AM
Im sure poido didn't jump ship to Washington
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 06:41 AM
What's wrong with a player fan
I'm gonna stop you right there. Everything is wrong with a player fan, they are whack. You root for your franchise, not stan/stalk some random ass dude you are infatuated with.
Ok if you are some international cat I guess that is your free ride to stan it up since you have extraordinary circucmstances but if you are from america man up and root for your hometown team and be there through thick and thin like a real fan. All you fake ass jump ship snitches can walk off a cliff :coleman:
poido123
03-12-2015, 06:44 AM
Im sure poido didn't jump ship to Washington
:pimp:
Cocaine80s
03-12-2015, 06:54 AM
I'm gonna stop you right there. Everything is wrong with a player fan, they are whack. You root for your franchise, not stan/stalk some random ass dude you are infatuated with.
Ok if you are some international cat I guess that is your free ride to stan it up since you have extraordinary circucmstances but if you are from america man up and root for your hometown team and be there through thick and thin like a real fan. All you fake ass jump ship snitches can walk off a cliff :coleman:
I dont have a hometown team
I live in Hawaii
tomtucker
03-12-2015, 06:57 AM
I dont have a hometown team
I live in Hawaii
BYU
Cocaine80s
03-12-2015, 07:00 AM
[QUOTE=tomtucker]BYU
funnystuff
03-12-2015, 07:00 AM
Same, but I will always be a LeBron fan.
This
Lebronxrings
03-12-2015, 07:37 AM
cavs fan since 2001. We always welcome new fans :rockon:
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 07:37 AM
I dont have a hometown team
I live in Hawaii
beach volleyball
poido123
03-12-2015, 07:39 AM
[QUOTE=tomtucker]BYU
Cocaine80s
03-12-2015, 08:01 AM
those teams play basketball? :oldlol:
The school's best player is Andrew Wiggins high school teammate. Negus Webster chan, he's nothing special tho. Idk the last nba player to get drafted from here
2010splash
03-12-2015, 08:01 AM
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What a fukking bitch you are..:mad: :facepalm ................and miami are alot more fun to watch this year, they are having alot more fun without the diva lebron .........**** the cavs and lebron and his bitch slaves he called to join him
You, poido123, and warriorsfan are exactly the type of people I laugh my arse off and feel sorry for.
You would continue to stick with your "team first, player second" mentality even if your team was some 20-win lottery-bound junk every year. Pathetic!!!
I haven't watched one Miami game this year and I'm not missing anything. Unless you like watching crap teams getting squashed in the first round.
Cleveland, on the other hand, has been a joy to watch and will continue to be for the next 5 years or so until LeBron's retirement.
But keep pounding your chest because you waste your time watching crap. At least you're a "loyal" fan, right??? :oldlol:
poido123
03-12-2015, 09:18 AM
The school's best player is Andrew Wiggins high school teammate. Negus Webster chan, he's nothing special tho. Idk the last nba player to get drafted from here
Didn't know that.
Consider me edumacated.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-12-2015, 09:29 AM
Being a fan of a team, through thick and thin, is enjoying the ups and downs of the process. Building through the draft, becoming a playoff team, a contender, rebuilding, rinse and repeat. I don't know how you can call yourself a 'fan' just leeching off the success of random teams. Bandwagoners are basically insecure people. They need to identify with the winners in order to feel better about themselves. I have also noticed that these pathetic saps also like to put down loser teams. Why? It makes them feel better about themselves.
Rooting for players and enjoying watching other teams play is another story.
Rose'sACL
03-12-2015, 09:34 AM
Being a fan of a team, through thick and thin, is enjoying the ups and downs of the process. Building through the draft, becoming a playoff team, a contender, rebuilding, rinse and repeat. I don't know how you can call yourself a 'fan' just leeching off the success of random teams. Bandwagoners are basically insecure people. They need to identify with the winners in order to feel better about themselves. I have also noticed that these pathetic saps also like to put down loser teams. Why? It makes them feel better about themselves.
Rooting for players and enjoying watching other teams play is another story.
this, but thick and thin mean that players and front office is doing it all to win but don't do well because of bad luck or some other factor.
supporting bad management and players who are not giving their all is a sign of weakness and sheep mentality.
poido123
03-12-2015, 09:36 AM
You, poido123, and warriorsfan are exactly the type of people I laugh my arse off and feel sorry for.
You would continue to stick with your "team first, player second" mentality even if your team was some 20-win lottery-bound junk every year. Pathetic!!!
I haven't watched one Miami game this year and I'm not missing anything. Unless you like watching crap teams getting squashed in the first round.
Cleveland, on the other hand, has been a joy to watch and will continue to be for the next 5 years or so until LeBron's retirement.
But keep pounding your chest because you waste your time watching crap. At least you're a "loyal" fan, right??? :oldlol:
The irony :oldlol:
Like how you were enjoying Cavs dominate early in the season? :oldlol:
Maybe you enjoyed Lebron take a 2 week vacation too right? :hammerhead:
I don't enjoy my team losing, but I wouldn't expect you to understand the feeling of winning through adversity or winning with backs against the wall either. To be a fan, you take the good with the bad, you can never take anything for granted and you always appreciate the process and preparation a team goes through from season to season. Something I'm sure you will never understand.
To be a fan, you have an invested interest in whatever a team chooses to do.
From minor signings to plucking a top draft prospect, you appreciate these things and you wouldn't get that if you were team hopping with a player all the time.
I've experienced years of heartache in the Rose era, but I've enjoyed the greatest player to play the game and a Golden era of Bulls basketball.
I live in the hope my team can rise above the odds, Rose can finally shake off his injury curse and lift his team to a trophy. To follow Lebron on a superstacked team? You might get a little thrill out of it, but you would never understand what it's like to win it all while following a team decimated by injury for last few years.
The point is, you are in a different headspace and understanding. Maybe when you grow up you will realise what that old fool was talking about.
I don't accept your way of thinking, but I understand your shortcomings. After all, bandwagon fans are for those who can't deal with disappointment or hardship.
Kind of a generational flaw. That kind of thing.
AnaheimLakers24
03-12-2015, 09:40 AM
Bailing out when the going gets tough. You deserve to be a bran fan
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-12-2015, 09:42 AM
this, but thick and thin mean that players and front office is doing it all to win but don't do well because of bad luck or some other factor.
supporting bad management and players who are not giving their all is a sign of weakness and sheep mentality.
I don't think giving a franchise a couple of years to rebuild, and pickup talent that's watchable and/or capable of contending is asking for much. There's just way too many fickle pansies who jump ship the minute their team misses the postseason. :oldlol:
If a team like, say, the Raiders, who are my favorite NFL team, have been miserable for 11 years, fans have every right to stop watching without being called a "bandwagoner" when they start watching again. I mean, I've seen most Raiders games in that span, so I know a lot of people who stopped going to games and spending money on a miserable product (why waste your hard earned money on something you know isn't a very good product?) I totally get that aspect.
Rose'sACL
03-12-2015, 09:51 AM
The irony :oldlol:
Like how you were enjoying Cavs dominate early in the season? :oldlol:
Maybe you enjoyed Lebron take a 2 week vacation too right? :hammerhead:
I don't enjoy my team losing, but I wouldn't expect you to understand the feeling of winning through adversity or winning with backs against the wall either. To be a fan, you take the good with the bad, you can never take anything for granted and you always appreciate the process and preparation a team goes through from season to season. Something I'm sure you will never understand.
To be a fan, you have an invested interest in whatever a team chooses to do.
From minor signings to plucking a top draft prospect, you appreciate these things and you wouldn't get that if you were team hopping with a player all the time.
I've experienced years of heartache in the Rose era, but I've enjoyed the greatest player to play the game and a Golden era of Bulls basketball.
I live in the hope my team can rise above the odds, Rose can finally shake off his injury curse and lift his team to a trophy. To follow Lebron on a superstacked team? You might get a little thrill out of it, but you would never understand what it's like to win it all while following a team decimated by injury for last few years.
The point is, you are in a different headspace and understanding. Maybe when you grow up you will realise what that old fool was talking about.
I don't accept your way of thinking, but I understand your shortcomings. After all, bandwagon fans are for those who can't deal with disappointment or hardship.
Kind of a generational flaw. That kind of thing.
what adversity are you talking about?
lakers and bulls have the most international fans for a reason. one is always winning so they have the "16 rings" thing and bulls have the "goat played for us" thing.
there is no adversity in supporting a sports team unless they have never won and even then i wouldn't call it adversity.
by your definition anyone who was a fan of lebron before 2011 finals and kept supporting him even after that chokejob went through more "adversity" than any nba team fan given how much shit they used to get. in 1 year they got so much shit thrown at them that bulls fans haven't been trolled as much since jordan retired.
to make it clear i wasn't a fan of lebron till 2012 when i saw him making the clear effort to only play in the paint so i am not complimenting myself here. i used to watch very few non-spurs games because i didn't have time to watch other games during 2008-2011.
poido123
03-12-2015, 09:59 AM
what adversity are you talking about?
lakers and bulls have the most international fans for a reason. one is always winning so they have the "16 rings" thing and bulls have the "goat played for us" thing.
there is no adversity in supporting a sports team unless they have never won and even then i wouldn't call it adversity.
by your definition anyone who was a fan of lebron before 2011 finals and kept supporting him even after that chokejob went through more "adversity" than any nba team fan given how much shit they used to get. in 1 year they got so much shit thrown at them that bulls fans haven't been trolled as much since jordan retired.
to make it clear i wasn't a fan of lebron till 2012 when i saw him making the clear effort to only play in the paint so i am not complimenting myself here. i used to watch very few non-spurs games because i didn't have time to watch other games during 2008-2011.
You really didn't understand what I wrote at all.
1 year of disappointment? how tragic. :oldlol:
I'll move along, because I don't think you grasp basic shit.
ImKobe
03-12-2015, 10:05 AM
**** lebron
Rose'sACL
03-12-2015, 10:13 AM
You really didn't understand what I wrote at all.
1 year of disappointment? how tragic. :oldlol:
I'll move along, because I don't think you grasp basic shit.
tell me again what "adversity" are you talking about? you write vague shit like it is a fact.
what "adversity" do you face in australia being a bulls fan who also supports any team lebron is playing that day? your day is a success if lebron doesn't play well or his team loses. i can understand this "adversity" BS if you only felt happy nba wise if bulls won and other teams didn't matter at all to you.
**** lebron
see. this is you. what is this "adversity" crap you are talking about?
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-12-2015, 10:24 AM
Bailing out when the going gets tough. You deserve to be a bran fan
Good point. :lol
ImKobe
03-12-2015, 10:31 AM
:cry:
**** lebron :coleman:
tomtucker
03-12-2015, 02:10 PM
**** lebron
right in the *****
Solefade
03-12-2015, 04:43 PM
#LeBronFamSticksTogether #StriveForGreatness
Spurs m8
03-12-2015, 05:02 PM
You, poido123, and warriorsfan are exactly the type of people I laugh my arse off and feel sorry for.
You would continue to stick with your "team first, player second" mentality even if your team was some 20-win lottery-bound junk every year. Pathetic!!!
I haven't watched one Miami game this year and I'm not missing anything. Unless you like watching crap teams getting squashed in the first round.
Cleveland, on the other hand, has been a joy to watch and will continue to be for the next 5 years or so until LeBron's retirement.
But keep pounding your chest because you waste your time watching crap. At least you're a "loyal" fan, right??? :oldlol:
Keep digging that hole, champ
nba_55
03-12-2015, 05:11 PM
Being a fan of a team, through thick and thin, is enjoying the ups and downs of the process. Building through the draft, becoming a playoff team, a contender, rebuilding, rinse and repeat. I don't know how you can call yourself a 'fan' just leeching off the success of random teams. Bandwagoners are basically insecure people. They need to identify with the winners in order to feel better about themselves. I have also noticed that these pathetic saps also like to put down loser teams. Why? It makes them feel better about themselves.
Rooting for players and enjoying watching other teams play is another story.
The same kind logic could be used to your perception of ''being a fan''. You are an insecure man without identity, so you need to identify yourself to a team. You stick with that team through up and down, you stick with that team no matter how much pain you get because you can't let it go, you need an identity, you would be lost without it.
nba_55
03-12-2015, 05:17 PM
The irony :oldlol:
Like how you were enjoying Cavs dominate early in the season? :oldlol:
Maybe you enjoyed Lebron take a 2 week vacation too right? :hammerhead:
I don't enjoy my team losing, but I wouldn't expect you to understand the feeling of winning through adversity or winning with backs against the wall either. To be a fan, you take the good with the bad, you can never take anything for granted and you always appreciate the process and preparation a team goes through from season to season. Something I'm sure you will never understand.
To be a fan, you have an invested interest in whatever a team chooses to do.
From minor signings to plucking a top draft prospect, you appreciate these things and you wouldn't get that if you were team hopping with a player all the time.
I've experienced years of heartache in the Rose era, but I've enjoyed the greatest player to play the game and a Golden era of Bulls basketball.
I live in the hope my team can rise above the odds, Rose can finally shake off his injury curse and lift his team to a trophy. To follow Lebron on a superstacked team? You might get a little thrill out of it, but you would never understand what it's like to win it all while following a team decimated by injury for last few years.
The point is, you are in a different headspace and understanding. Maybe when you grow up you will realise what that old fool was talking about.
I don't accept your way of thinking, but I understand your shortcomings. After all, bandwagon fans are for those who can't deal with disappointment or hardship.
Kind of a generational flaw. That kind of thing.
The point is everyone has their own reasons to watch NBA and to support teams/players. There are always 100 different ways of looking things, you should stop being a prick and accept that fact. Your way of looking at things is not the only way of looking them, your way of looking at thing is not the only good way of looking at things. You enjoy suffering watching scrub teams grow, good for you. Others don't!
Beastmode88
03-12-2015, 05:17 PM
Bailing out when the going gets tough. You deserve to be a bran fan
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-12-2015, 05:41 PM
The same kind logic could be used to your perception of ''being a fan''. You are an insecure man without identity, so you need to identify yourself to a team. You stick with that team through up and down, you stick with that team no matter how much pain you get because you can't let it go, you need an identity, you would be lost without it.
How many loops did you jump through before typing this out? :oldlol:
J Shuttlesworth
03-12-2015, 05:47 PM
Jordan stan assumed because I root for the Bulls?
I haven't posted more or less about Jordan than pretty much any other player on the Bulls team.
3ball and you might have a point. :hammerhead:
But you post more about LeBron than any Bulls player :lol
And actually, you post more about LeBron fans than anything so I guess you're a LeBron-fan fan
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 05:48 PM
You, poido123, and warriorsfan are exactly the type of people I laugh my arse off and feel sorry for.
You would continue to stick with your "team first, player second" mentality even if your team was some 20-win lottery-bound junk every year. Pathetic!!!
I haven't watched one Miami game this year and I'm not missing anything. Unless you like watching crap teams getting squashed in the first round.
Cleveland, on the other hand, has been a joy to watch and will continue to be for the next 5 years or so until LeBron's retirement.
But keep pounding your chest because you waste your time watching crap. At least you're a "loyal" fan, right??? :oldlol:
Wow, this kid should be taken out back and shot. :oldlol:
Being a fan of a team, through thick and thin, is enjoying the ups and downs of the process. Building through the draft, becoming a playoff team, a contender, rebuilding, rinse and repeat. I don't know how you can call yourself a 'fan' just leeching off the success of random teams. Bandwagoners are basically insecure people. They need to identify with the winners in order to feel better about themselves. I have also noticed that these pathetic saps also like to put down loser teams. Why? It makes them feel better about themselves.
Rooting for players and enjoying watching other teams play is another story.
This cat knows what's up.
:oldlol: @ all these kids talking smack about following your team when they arn't doing well. These worthless unloyal future snitches are just too much, just so you know all the fans who are real men laugh at you beta jump ship turncoat fakers. :oldlol:
nba_55
03-12-2015, 05:48 PM
How many loops did you jump through before typing this out? :oldlol:
how many did you jump through before typing your ''insecurity theory''?
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 05:49 PM
how many did you jump through before typing your ''insecurity theory''?
you have been exposed as a little nerdy kid who is a faker. these hoes aint loyal
:roll: :roll: :roll:
nba_55
03-12-2015, 05:53 PM
you have been exposed as a little nerdy kid who is a faker. these hoes aint loyal
:roll: :roll: :roll:
OH NO! I'm done!
You got what you wanted troll, this is the last time i'm wasting seconds of my life on you miserable human being. BYE!:oldlol: :oldlol:
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 05:54 PM
OH NO! I'm done!
You got what you wanted troll, this is the last time i'm wasting seconds of my life on you miserable human being. BYE!:oldlol: :oldlol:
u mad bro, thanks for the free rent.
these stans aint loyal
:roll: :roll: :roll:
2010splash
03-12-2015, 06:11 PM
This warriorfan guy is the ultimate loser. Showing such fierce loyalty and devotion to a bunch of people who don't even know or care that he exists.
The fact that you take professional sports (essentially television) this seriously is comical. You are an embarrassment to society. :oldlol:
Fudge
03-12-2015, 06:12 PM
Bailing out when the going gets tough. You deserve to be a bran fan
lol damn
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 07:11 PM
This warriorfan guy is the ultimate loser. Showing such fierce loyalty and devotion to a bunch of people who don't even know or care that he exists.
The fact that you take professional sports (essentially television) this seriously is comical. You are an embarrassment to society. :oldlol:
You know what type of people jump ship as soon as things start going bad?
Scumbags.
:coleman:
2010splash
03-12-2015, 07:48 PM
You wasted your life in the past watching horrible television.
Pathetic! I feel sorry for you.
LosBulls
03-12-2015, 07:59 PM
http://oi60.tinypic.com/315g77n.jpg
Spurs m8
03-12-2015, 08:13 PM
The same kind logic could be used to your perception of ''being a fan''. You are an insecure man without identity, so you need to identify yourself to a team. You stick with that team through up and down, you stick with that team no matter how much pain you get because you can't let it go, you need an identity, you would be lost without it.
LOL this about the dumbest post i've ever read on here.
Cheers for the laugh
I bet you'd cheat on your missus if you had one.
And quit your job if it became a tiny challenging.
Fail.
nba_55
03-12-2015, 08:24 PM
LOL this about the dumbest post i've ever read on here.
Cheers for the laugh
I bet you'd cheat on your missus if you had one.
And quit your job if it became a tiny challenging.
Fail.
NBA is television, not real life, I get no reward for suffering and watching lottery teams for my whole team. When I watch television, my goal is to get entertained, if your product doesn't entertain me, I won't waste my time with it. In real life, I have different goals: I want to reach my full potential, I want to have a good house, I want to have a family. To get those goals, suffering is necessary. You have to work hard, you have to give it all.
And BTW, that post with identities was to show the guy I quoted how dumb his theory was. He concluded player fan posters were all insecure and he gave a dumb justification to explain his conclusion, and I did the same for him, the team fan.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-12-2015, 08:37 PM
NBA is television, not real life, I get no reward for suffering and watching lottery teams for my whole team. When I watch television, my goal is to get entertained, if your product doesn't entertain me, I won't waste my time with it. In real life, I have different goals: I want to reach my full potential, I want to have a good house, I want to have a family. To get those goals, suffering is necessary. You have to work hard, you have to give it all.
And BTW, that post with identities was to show the guy I quoted how dumb his theory was. He concluded player fan posters were all insecure and he gave a dumb justification to explain his conclusion, and I did the same for him, the team fan.
The NBA is real life; everything around you is real.
Its silly that you believe team fans stuck in the lotto don't enjoy watching other squads and/or players. Like what?
Once again, player fans and enjoying other teams isn't a black and white thing. For example, being a LeBron fan isn't the same as becoming a Cavs fan, then a Heat fan, only to return and become a Cavs fan all over again. All this in 4 years.
Player fandom is actually quite normal. Everyone has their share of favorite players. My post is directed at bandwagon team fans (and SOME player fans) who hate on other team fans for being loyal.
Read my post about Raider fans. Maybe that'll stop you from posting nonsense.
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 08:54 PM
NBA is television, not real life, I get no reward for suffering and watching lottery teams for my whole team. When I watch television, my goal is to get entertained, if your product doesn't entertain me, I won't waste my time with it. In real life, I have different goals: I want to reach my full potential, I want to have a good house, I want to have a family. To get those goals, suffering is necessary. You have to work hard, you have to give it all.
And BTW, that post with identities was to show the guy I quoted how dumb his theory was. He concluded player fan posters were all insecure and he gave a dumb justification to explain his conclusion, and I did the same for him, the team fan.
You kids just don't get it. How is it rewarding in any way when you just wake up one day and arbitrarily decide "I'm gonna follow the Heat!" So you watch the games and maybe they won the championship...what does it mean to you? Not much, you only hopped on that wagon a couple years ago when they were already heavily favored to win. It's basically one step above being a HarlemGlobetrotter fan and getting stoked and amazed every time they win.
My Father grew up in San Francisco and was a Giants fan his entire life. He wasn't a crazy nutso fan but he would go to a handful of games every year and follow how they are doing. The Giants had their good years, they had their bad years, they had the years where they came so so close (6 outs away from the world series in 2002). Barry Bonds faded and the Giants fell into despair. My father never said "well that was it I was watching for 40 years and they never made it, guess I'm going to be a Yankee fan" He kept watching and guess what? In 2010 they beat out all odds and miraculously win the world series. Shortly after the win I get a phone call from my father who tells me after 45 years of being a Giant fan, they finally did it. Something like that is very special and I feel sorry for the fake bandwagoner fans because they will never experience anything like that.
*drops mic*
20Four
03-12-2015, 08:56 PM
You kids just don't get it. How is it rewarding in any way when you just wake up one day and arbitrarily decide "I'm gonna follow the Heat!" So you watch the games and maybe they won the championship...what does it mean to you? Not much, you only hopped on that wagon a couple years ago when they were already heavily favored to win. It's basically one step above being a HarlemGlobetrotter fan and getting stoked and amazed every time they win.
My Father grew up in San Francisco and was a Giants fan his entire life. He wasn't a crazy nutso fan but he would go to a handful of games every year and follow how they are doing. The Giants had their good years, they had their bad years, they had the years where they came so so close (6 outs away from the world series in 2002). Barry Bonds faded and the Giants fell into despair. My father never said "well that was it I was watching for 40 years and they never made it, guess I'm going to be a Yankee fan" He kept watching and guess what? In 2010 they beat out all odds and miraculously win the world series. Shortly after the win I get a phone call from my father who tells me after 45 years of being a Giant fan, they finally did it. Something like that is very special and I feel sorry for the fake bandwagoner fans because they will never experience anything like that.
*drops mic*
:cheers:
2010splash
03-12-2015, 09:00 PM
You kids just don't get it. How is it rewarding in any way when you just wake up one day and arbitrarily decide "I'm gonna follow the Heat!" So you watch the games and maybe they won the championship...what does it mean to you? Not much, you only hopped on that wagon a couple years ago when they were already heavily favored to win. It's basically one step above being a HarlemGlobetrotter fan and getting stoked and amazed every time they win.
My Father grew up in San Francisco and was a Giants fan his entire life. He wasn't a crazy nutso fan but he would go to a handful of games every year and follow how they are doing. The Giants had their good years, they had their bad years, they had the years where they came so so close (6 outs away from the world series in 2002). Barry Bonds faded and the Giants fell into despair. My father never said "well that was it I was watching for 40 years and they never made it, guess I'm going to be a Yankee fan" He kept watching and guess what? In 2010 they beat out all odds and miraculously win the world series. Shortly after the win I get a phone call from my father who tells me after 45 years of being a Giant fan, they finally did it. Something like that is very special and I feel sorry for the fake bandwagoner fans because they will never experience anything like that.
*drops mic*
Pathetic and retarded argument. Plenty of teams have never won any titles. Those loyal diehards will never experience that either because their team never won and never will.
Keep rooting for a team that you will never witness win a title though. Sucks to be you! I've already witnessed 2 titles and 5 Finals appearances and am sure to see several more in the next 5-6 years. :rockon:
20Four
03-12-2015, 09:02 PM
Pathetic and retarded argument. Plenty of teams have never won any titles. Those loyal diehards will never experience that either because their team never won and never will.
Keep rooting for a team that you will never witness win a title though. Sucks to be you! I've already witnessed 2 titles and 5 Finals appearances and am sure to see several more in the next 5-6 years. :rockon:
:facepalm :facepalm
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 09:20 PM
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Nothing wrong with that OP, just enjoy basketball the way you want.
nba_55
03-12-2015, 09:48 PM
The NBA is real life; everything around you is real.
Its silly that you believe team fans stuck in the lotto don't enjoy watching other squads and/or players. Like what?
Once again, player fans and enjoying other teams isn't a black and white thing. For example, being a LeBron fan isn't the same as becoming a Cavs fan, then a Heat fan, only to return and become a Cavs fan all over again. All this in 4 years.
Player fandom is actually quite normal. Everyone has their share of favorite players. My post is directed at bandwagon team fans (and SOME player fans) who hate on other team fans for being loyal.
Read my post about Raider fans. Maybe that'll stop you from posting nonsense.
Who exactly was your post directed at? Lebron fans in here? Because most of Lebron fans like Dubeta, Lebronxrings... are not bandwagonners, they are Lebron fans and will remain his fan.
warriorfan
03-12-2015, 10:24 PM
Who exactly was your post directed at? Lebron stans in here? Because most of Lebron stans like Dubeta, Lebronxrings... are not bandwagonners, they are Lebron stans and will remain his stan.
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kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-12-2015, 11:21 PM
Who exactly was your post directed at? Lebron fans in here? Because most of Lebron fans like Dubeta, Lebronxrings... are not bandwagonners, they are Lebron fans and will remain his fan.
It's directed to anyone that it applies to. Assuming I was only talking about LeBron fans reaffirms your insecurity.
warriorfan
03-13-2015, 01:36 AM
Just checking in to see if after tonight they are still fans.
ThePhantomCreep
03-13-2015, 02:20 AM
I knew a poster who was a Bulls fan in the 90s and a Spurs fan in the 2000s. :facepalm
Go easy on the OP - - there's always someone lamer.
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