Everybody is afraid to speak their mind because of the rep system

[IamRAMBO24]

There is something missing in this forum ever since the rep system came back. We're not seeing a lot of disagreements over controversial topics; members are avoiding the NBA forum because they know they will get negged for liking a particular player or team; the posters who generate the most responses (outspoken ones) no longer posts here anymore; topics that are safe and topical and youtube videos are now the norm. No more zest; no more fire; pure boredom.

People who speak their mind should be celebrated, not ridiculed. At the end of the day, this is all entertainment. Why should the fear of being judged dictate how we enjoy ourselves? Have fun. Don't give a f*ck, and above all don't take everything so seriously. Jeff kill the rep system. It is sucking the life out of this forum.

[kentatm]

:facepalm

you're a damn joke.

you dont have red b/c you speak your mind.

you have it b/c you post like a jackass and b/c you practically beg for it with attention whore threads like this.

[IamRAMBO24]

:facepalm

you're a damn joke.

you dont have red b/c you speak your mind.

you have it b/c you post like a jackass and b/c you practically beg for it with attention whore threads like this.

I'm not a jacka*s all the time. If you engage me, I will engage back. The problem I have are these immature kids who can't formulate a proper discussion and then trolls the f*ck out of me just because they happen to disagree with me.

And yes, trust me, I absolutely am in the red because I happen to disagree with 99% of the discussions in here.

Stop being such a little b*tch and get butthurt over a few tough jokes here and there. You can't even f*ck around with somebody without getting negged. You kids are so immature. Grow a few balls and stop hiding behind the rep system.

[kentatm]

:roll:

Brah, you need to look in a mirror.

You are in the red b/c you post like a jackass enough that negs will outweigh the positives. Even when you do engage you often do it in a smug douchetastic way. Sorry but its true.

This thread is case in point. You are crying about immature people giving negs causing people to stop speaking their mind yet here you are speaking your mind and acting immature. How can anyone take you seriously when you constantly act like 13 year old shithead that needs to get pimp slapped?

Starface speaks his mind all the ****ing time. He has been banned a shitload and is often deep in the red. Yet he comes back, says what he has to say, and right now has a green boner.

Seriously, stop cluttering up the board with this bullshit attention whore crying. Grow a ****ing sack and stop trolling so damn much and maybe, just maybe, you'll get some of that green that apparently helps you decide what your current self worth is.

[gigantes]

I'm not a jacka*s all the time. If you engage me, I will engage back. The problem I have are these immature kids who can't formulate a proper discussion and then trolls the f*ck out of me just because they happen to disagree with me...
the difference is that they're just kids, while you are supposedly a grown adult.

they're supposed to be a little wild, experimental, testing things out and growing. OTOH there's -you- ...who comes to a mediocre bball forums and wants to clobber people with your 'metaphysical knowledge' and avoid places where you would be far better served conducting your debates, such as beliefnet, etc etc.

it would be one thing if you had some facility with teaching and explanation, but most of the time it's a given that you'll get irritated (and borderline enraged) that ppl can't understand and/or agree with you.

maybe in the short term that's on them, but in the long term that's on you IMO.


EDIT: haha, green boner!

[Rodmantheman]

OP wtf is wrong with you:roll:

[Done_And_Done]

Will you just shut the f*uck up about rep already.

Off to Vegas for the weekend to make a mess of my liver.

Cheers peoples...

[IamRAMBO24]

:roll:

Brah, you need to look in a mirror.

You are in the red b/c you post like a jackass enough that negs will outweigh the positives. Even when you do engage you often do it in a smug douchetastic way. Sorry but its true.

This thread is case in point. You are crying about immature people giving negs causing people to stop speaking their mind yet here you are speaking your mind and acting immature. How can anyone take you seriously when you constantly act like 13 year old shithead that needs to get pimp slapped?

Starface speaks his mind all the ****ing time. He has been banned a shitload and is often deep in the red. Yet he comes back, says what he has to say, and right now has a green boner.

Seriously, stop cluttering up the board with this bullshit attention whore crying. Grow a ****ing sack and stop trolling so damn much and maybe, just maybe, you'll get some of that green that apparently helps you decide what your current self worth is.

I think it is sad how you guys are taking this sh*t so seriously. I know I am a douche; I like to f*ck around with the members in here, but it doesn't mean I'm doing it out of malice. It's just giving people sh*t; kind of like how friends do it. The problem is you guys are so insecure you literally take this sh*t seriously, like butt hurt serious, and then you play the neg card to somehow get people back.

[IamRAMBO24]

the difference is that they're just kids, while you are supposedly a grown adult.

they're supposed to be a little wild, experimental, testing things out and growing. OTOH there's -you- ...who comes to a mediocre bball forums and wants to clobber people with your 'metaphysical knowledge' and avoid places where you would be far better served conducting your debates, such as beliefnet, etc etc.

it would be one thing if you had some facility with teaching and explanation, but most of the time it's a given that you'll get irritated (and borderline enraged) that ppl can't understand and/or agree with you.

maybe in the short term that's on them, but in the long term that's on you IMO.


EDIT: haha, green boner!

I only get irritated when posters don't engage. I don't care if you talk sh*t to me, call me names, neg me, I don't give a sh*t. Just have a f*ckin conversation; that's the whole reason we're here right? If someone has a point, then counter that point; who cares about the insults .. who cares about some stupid rep system .. just discuss and have a good time.

In the end, you won't get laid because of green bars; will you live longer? No. Will you make more money? No. Then why the f*ck do some of you treat it like its your lifeline?

[iamgine]

OP makes so many assumptions.

Assume people cares, afraid, butthurt, take it serious, use negs as way to get back, got in red because he disagree, etc.

[gigantes]

I only get irritated when posters don't engage. I don't care if you talk sh*t to me, call me names, neg me, I don't give a sh*t. Just have a f*ckin conversation;

...that's the whole reason we're here right? If someone has a point, then counter that point; who cares about the insults .. who cares about some stupid rep system .. just discuss and have a good time.

In the end, you won't get laid because of green bars; will you live longer? No. Will you make more money? No. Then why the f*ck do some of you treat it like its your lifeline?
i can appreciate the intent in your first thought, but it also displays a relentless opaqueness about how things work here. and for whatever reason you have a fixation with things being the way you describe in the 2nd thought, going against a number of practical and real factors. any theories as to why you do that?

3rd thought-- HEY DUDE, these rep bars cost me a lot of money and have opened up a number of doors in my life. don't ever put down my major accomplishment in life again! (i have a sharp axe and an unstable personality, just sayin)

[Jailblazers7]

Nice coping mechanism, repped.

[IamRAMBO24]

i can appreciate the intent in your first thought, but it also displays a relentless opaqueness about how things work here. and for whatever reason you have a fixation with things being the way you describe in the 2nd thought, going against a number of practical and real factors. any theories as to why you do that?

3rd thought-- HEY DUDE, these rep bars cost me a lot of money and have opened up a number of doors in my life. don't ever put down my major accomplishment in life again! (i have a sharp axe and an unstable personality, just sayin)

I'm just trying to save the forum.

What is wrong with being passionate? What is wrong with throwing a few jabs here and there? What is wrong with a disagreement? What is wrong with a crazy idea or a conspiracy theory?

That is what fuels a discussion; we won't all agree with one another; that's the whole point, and the idea that the so call best posters (green bars) are actually the antithesis of all of the above is really the biggest problem of this forum.

I mean if you really dig deep into it and look at the underlying problem, the problem is not the so call red bar posters .. it's really the green bars who think people should only talk a certain way or act a certain way .. or have some sort of restriction on their freedom of expression if they are to be liked and accepted ... it's like a stupid little cult, and what's sad is the noobs don't know any better and are willing to take it up the a*s (IM BALLIN) in order to be in this click.

[MadeFromDust]

Hambone, we reds are like Will Smith in I,Robot. We got true freedom of speech, have perfect spiritual vision, and are not bound to the PC buulshiite the greens have to tip-toe around every time they post. Ewe are ISH. ISH is red. ISH is #1 :)

http://apostating.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/552c3974664b7e8a2669d6efdf330347.jpg

[Cactus-Sack]

All the best posters are no longer posting. All everybody talks about is the rep system. The green bar posters and their stupid clicks are just agreeing with each other and repping one another and picking on the new posters. We don't see anymore real fights like the old days.

I am now just a lurker. Nothing interest me.

Shut the fvck up bruh.

[russwest0]

There is something missing in this forum ever since the rep system came back. We're not seeing a lot of disagreements over controversial topics; members are avoiding the NBA forum because they know they will get negged for liking a particular player or team; the posters who generate the most responses (outspoken ones) no longer posts here anymore; topics that are safe and topical and youtube videos are now the norm. No more zest; no more fire; pure boredom.

People who speak their mind should be celebrated, not ridiculed. At the end of the day, this is all entertainment. Why should the fear of being judged dictate how we enjoy ourselves? Have fun. Don't give a f*ck, and above all don't take everything so seriously. Jeff kill the rep system. It is sucking the life out of this forum.

Couldn't agree more.

Though I don't give a **** either way, I'm still gonna rule ISH :rockon:

[Akrazotile]

Caring about your reputation points on a ****ing message board is about the single most beta thing you could possibly ****ing do.


Rep me if you agree.

[Im Still Ballin]

Amen.

[bdreason]

The people with lots of neg rep are always trolls who post retarded shit on purpose. I say exactly what I think, and get negged plenty... but still have positive rep.

[NZStreetBaller]

Im agree with you RAMBO. my lifelong dream was to have a rep bar. I would sleep everyday thinking about it. and lurk on these boards observing the behaviour of all the highly repped members trying to understand how HOW! they do it.

when I was a child I told my father that I wasn't sure what i wanted to do with my life. all I know is that it had green in it. when I saw this board I KNEW I just knew I would get one of those super important green bars

But then it happened. I slipped. I said something I shouldn't have and my world come crashing down. I said "If lebron goes to cleveland and wade and bosh stay then we'll find out who carried who" (somewhere along those lines)

Then I posted again and bang THERE IT WAS!!!! THE RED BAR:mad: :mad: :mad:

But something inside me started to happen.... did I lose my life long goal?... had i lost my motivation?

After days of snapping my laptop in half. slapping my mum in the face. unscrewing the nuts from my car tires. dumping my girlfriend. bending the knifes and forks in my house and *********ing in the feetle position I realised
I didnt actually give a motherfckn shit anymore.......

[NZStreetBaller]

So thats what my post look like when I dont read them haha what a douche bag

[pastis]

who cares about the rep system:confusedshrug:

[Cactus-Sack]

who cares about the rep system:confusedshrug:
negged.

[Im Still Ballin]

There's nothing honorable about a green bar. It reeks of insecurity, politically correct bullshit. They are frauds. Go look in the BTE for god sake. It's a non stop circle jerk of nerds 24/7... Yet they still have the audacity to call us REAL folk out?

Get the **** out of here. Its bullshit.

[Cactus-Sack]

negged.

This post got negged by someone in the red. Pathetic.

[pastis]

This post got negged by someone in the red. Pathetic.

you were the first user i negged. :applause:

[Cactus-Sack]

you were the first user i negged. :applause:

You aren't capable of negging retard. Your rep shows up as grey. Will actually neg you now.

[Cactus-Sack]

Turned you red. You're welcome.

[pastis]

Turned you red. You're welcome.

i rly care:applause: :lol

[Angel Face]

Some people are just too afraid their image will be tarnished. If they can't do it online using a handle name when no one knows them personally big chance they're afraid to speak their mind IRL as well. Rep? Who gives a shit.

[gigantes]

Im agree with you RAMBO. my lifelong dream was to have a rep bar. I would sleep everyday thinking about it. and lurk on these boards observing the behaviour of all the highly repped members trying to understand how HOW! they do it.

when I was a child I told my father that I wasn't sure what i wanted to do with my life. all I know is that it had green in it. when I saw this board I KNEW I just knew I would get one of those super important green bars

But then it happened. I slipped. I said something I shouldn't have and my world come crashing down. I said "If lebron goes to cleveland and wade and bosh stay then we'll find out who carried who" (somewhere along those lines)

Then I posted again and bang THERE IT WAS!!!! THE RED BAR:mad: :mad: :mad:

But something inside me started to happen.... did I lose my life long goal?... had i lost my motivation?

After days of snapping my laptop in half. slapping my mum in the face. unscrewing the nuts from my car tires. dumping my girlfriend. bending the knifes and forks in my house and *********ing in the feetle position I realised
I didnt actually give a motherfckn shit anymore.......
LOL... repped... is it too late to say that i love you man?

[dr.hee]

Im agree with you RAMBO. my lifelong dream was to have a rep bar. I would sleep everyday thinking about it. and lurk on these boards observing the behaviour of all the highly repped members trying to understand how HOW! they do it.

when I was a child I told my father that I wasn't sure what i wanted to do with my life. all I know is that it had green in it. when I saw this board I KNEW I just knew I would get one of those super important green bars

But then it happened. I slipped. I said something I shouldn't have and my world come crashing down. I said "If lebron goes to cleveland and wade and bosh stay then we'll find out who carried who" (somewhere along those lines)

Then I posted again and bang THERE IT WAS!!!! THE RED BAR:mad: :mad: :mad:

But something inside me started to happen.... did I lose my life long goal?... had i lost my motivation?

After days of snapping my laptop in half. slapping my mum in the face. unscrewing the nuts from my car tires. dumping my girlfriend. bending the knifes and forks in my house and *********ing in the feetle position I realised
I didnt actually give a motherfckn shit anymore.......

:applause:

[MavsSuperFan]

Very few people actually care about the rep system. Red bars wouldnt negatively affect me even 1%

[Cactus-Sack]

Very few people actually care about the rep system. Red bars wouldnt negatively affect me even 1%

Good, because I'm going to neg you as soon as I can. Awful poster

[MavsSuperFan]

Good, because I'm going to neg you as soon as I can. Awful poster
Ok then,

Im curious though what opinions of mine do you disagree with?
I enjoy debate (miss my debate team)

[IamRAMBO24]

The people with lots of neg rep are always trolls who post retarded shit on purpose. I say exactly what I think, and get negged plenty... but still have positive rep.

That is a myth. The following behaviors are discourage amongst green bar posters:

1. You can't be passionate about a topic.
2. You can't be different. If your ideas are different, then that means you are a nuisance and trolling the forum.
3. Don't be too smart. The act of a disagreement is an insult. Just be dumb and agree with everybody else.
4. You can't take jabs at people. Everything is so f*ckin serious; ISH is real sh*t! The green bar police will come and get you if you get out of line and poke fun at a few people or talk smack to them.

Behaviors like that will be classified as "retarded" or "trolling" amongst the green bar police and their huge click of friends and they will "keep in line" the person who gets out of line. They're doing it to some of the noobs as we speak. Don't f*ck with the green bar police; this sh*t is serious business!

[Cactus-Sack]

Ok then,

Im curious though what opinions of mine do you disagree with?
I enjoy debate (miss my debate team)

All of your ridiculous statist opinions. Internet debate is pointless, it's not like you ever convince anyone of anything, you just force them into doubling down and getting defensive.

[MavsSuperFan]

The people with lots of neg rep are always trolls who post retarded shit on purpose. I say exactly what I think, and get negged plenty... but still have positive rep.
I agree with this, I post controversial opinions all the time, that i truly believe. I enjoy the anonymity of the this board. Its not like facebook or twitter that can get tracked back to you in real life and affect how people perceive you.

Eg. I have talked about how I think males should have the right to choose if they want to take part in a child's life, if the mother unilaterally chooses to have the baby.

My support for the death penalty in theory, (in practise I have major issues with it)

etc.

I get negged all the time, it must take a lot of negs to get red bars.

[Cactus-Sack]

That is a myth. The following behaviors are discourage amongst green bar posters:

1. You can't be passionate about a topic.
2. You can't be different. If your ideas are different, then that means you are a nuisance and trolling the forum.
3. You can't take jabs at people. Everything is so f*ckin serious; ISH is real sh*t! The green bar police will come and get you if you get out of line and poke fun at a few people or talk smack to them.

Behaviors like that will be classified as "retarded" or "trolling" amongst the green bar police and their huge click of friends and they will "keep in line" the person who gets out of line. They're doing it to some of the noobs as we speak. Don't f*ck with the green bar police; this sh*t is serious business!

None of those apply to me, fgt.

[FrobeShaw]

That is a myth. The following behaviors are discourage amongst green bar posters:

1. You can't be passionate about a topic.
2. You can't be different. If your ideas are different, then that means you are a nuisance and trolling the forum.
3. You can't take jabs at people. Everything is so f*ckin serious; ISH is real sh*t! The green bar police will come and get you if you get out of line and poke fun at a few people or talk smack to them.

Behaviors like that will be classified as "retarded" or "trolling" amongst the green bar police and their huge click of friends and they will "keep in line" the person who gets out of line. They're doing it to some of the noobs as we speak. Don't f*ck with the green bar police; this sh*t is serious business!

Macho Man does all of those things and quite frequently. He's considered the Michael Jordan of posters with the greatest rep imaginable! Dude is cheating the system, by your logic.

[MavsSuperFan]

All of your ridiculous statist opinions. Internet debate is pointless, it's not like you ever convince anyone of anything, you just force them into doubling down and getting defensive.
Such as?

I have always considered myself a critic of the government.

Eg. On gitmo and signature and double tap drone strikes. NSA wire tapping, etc.

I guess maybe my support of the death penalty in theory?
But I actually am critical of how the american government applies it. I simultaneously think its not applied to a board enough range of crimes, and feel its is applied to cases where guilt is not certain.


Internet debate is pointless, it's not like you ever convince anyone of anything, you just force
i have been convinced of many thing on the internet. :cheers: anyways Im bored at work, its not a busy time for auditors.

[IamRAMBO24]

Macho Man does all of those things and quite frequently. He's considered the Michael Jordan of posters with the greatest rep imaginable! Dude is cheating the system, by your logic.

No he doesn't. Macho Man hardly ever engages in a long discussion. He sticks with one liners and sarcasm which is as safe as it can get.

[FrobeShaw]

No he doesn't. Macho Man hardly ever engages in a long discussion. He sticks with one liners and sarcasm which is as safe as it can get.

Yet there's more substance and potency in his one liners than your long winded essays.

[IamRAMBO24]

I agree with this, I post controversial opinions all the time, that i truly believe. I enjoy the anonymity of the this board. Its not like facebook or twitter that can get tracked back to you in real life and affect how people perceive you.

Eg. I have talked about how I think males should have the right to choose if they want to take part in a child's life, if the mother unilaterally chooses to have the baby.

My support for the death penalty in theory, (in practise I have major issues with it)

etc.

I get negged all the time, it must take a lot of negs to get red bars.

You've been here long enough and have a stupid click of friends who will rep you. Admit it, there is a gang of you who is in this click.

[Cactus-Sack]

Such as?

I have always considered myself a critic of the government.

Eg. On gitmo and signature and double tap drone strikes. NSA wire tapping, etc.

I guess maybe my support of the death penalty in theory?
But I actually am critical of how the american government applies it. I simultaneously think its not applied to a board enough range of crimes, and feel its is applied to cases where guilt is not certain.


i have been convinced of many thing on the internet. :cheers: anyways Im bored at work, its not a busy time for auditors.

You support the existence of the state. You are a statist. This is the main problem I have with you and KNYC, you think that bickering over the incidental fvcking minutae like "Oh I think the death penalty should be applicable to kid fvcker." "Oh no, I disagree" completely glossing over important details like whether or not there should be a state, or what size it should be. You and starface are so ideologically close, but you've spent hours bickering with him. It's silly.

"critic of the government"... give me a break.

[IamRAMBO24]

Yet there's more substance and potency in his one liners than your long winded essays.

And?

[Cactus-Sack]

You've been here long enough and have a stupid click of friends who will rep you. Admit it, there is a gang of you who is in this click.

*clique

[FrobeShaw]

You've been here long enough and have a stupid click of friends who will rep you. Admit it, there is a gang of you who is in this click.

It's clique. This is why you get negged.

[IamRAMBO24]

It's clique. This is why you get negged.

Obvious spelling error. Who gives a f*ck? Grammar attacks are so f*ckin lame.

[FrobeShaw]

Obvious spelling error. Who gives a f*ck? Grammar attacks are so f*ckin lame.

You said it twice. You thought it was click and this means you're stupid and I hate you for it.

[IamRAMBO24]

You said it twice. You thought it was click and this means you're stupid and I hate you for it.

That's cool.

[Cactus-Sack]

Obvious spelling error. Who gives a f*ck? Grammar attacks are so f*ckin lame.

Spelling error you made twice fgt. You just dumb. Kant was dumb too.

[IamRAMBO24]

Spelling error you made twice fgt. You just dumb. Kant was dumb too.

It's just a spelling error. Everybody makes it. This is not an english class. It's OK NOT to be perfect. Move along. You green bars are like f*ckin nazis.

[Cactus-Sack]

How Kantian.

[IamRAMBO24]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346294&page=2

[Cactus-Sack]

Not sure what you meant by posting that link, but anywhoo...


As usual ish's resident philosopher sucks at philosophical thinking. Doesn't know the difference between "click" and "clique," nor "correlation" and "causation."

[IamRAMBO24]

Not sure what you meant by posting that link, but anywhoo...


As usual ish's resident philosopher sucks at philosophical thinking. Doesn't know the difference between "click" and "clique," nor "correlation" and "causation."

True.

A noob trying too hard.

[Cactus-Sack]

How are you a noob? You've been a long-time troll/fry cook.

[IamRAMBO24]

How are you a noob? You've been a long-time troll/fry cook.

I'm calling you a noob. I hardly know you and you're trying too hard. Take it slow pal. Your turn will come.

[Cactus-Sack]

:rolleyes:

Rambo so dumb. Memory game goldfish.

[FrobeShaw]

How come you don't randomly bold parts of your posts anymore? Did all that criticism get to you? Very beta move.

[IamRAMBO24]

How come you don't randomly bold parts of your posts anymore? Did all that criticism get to you? Very beta move.

Yup.

[MavsSuperFan]

You've been here long enough and have a stupid click of friends who will rep you. Admit it, there is a gang of you who is in this click.
What :lol? Why would anyone do this


You support the existence of the state. You are a statist. This is the main problem I have with you and KNYC, you think that bickering over the incidental fvcking minutae like "Oh I think the death penalty should be applicable to kid fvcker." "Oh no, I disagree" completely glossing over important details like whether or not there should be a state, or what size it should be. You and starface are so ideologically close, but you've spent hours bickering with him. It's silly.

"critic of the government"... give me a break.

You support the existence of the state.
True, I am not an anarchist


You are a statist. This is the main problem I have with you and KNYC, you think that bickering over the incidental fvcking minutae like "Oh I think the death penalty should be applicable to kid fvcker." "Oh no, I disagree" completely glossing over important details like whether or not there should be a state, or what size it should be.

I disagree with KevinNYC on alot of things.
1. he supports the drone strikes. I am totally against signiture strikes and appalled by double tap strikes


Targeted drone strkies :lol :lol :lol

Dont believe all the propaganda you hear.

The obama administration has determined that any military age male can be classified as an enemy combatant. This allows them to make the ludicrous claim that the civilian casualties have been minimal.

Signature Strikes- Drone strikes based solely on attacking people because of "suspicious behavior". We aren't even sure if they are terrorists, If you're in Yemen and look suspicious to a CIA official, Obama has okayed killing you based on nothing else. No due process, no checks and balances. Imagine how we would react if China or Russia were striking targets in this manner.

Personality Strike- we actually think we know who we are targeting. Do we care if we launch a hellfire missile that kills 5 people, only 1 of them being the targeted individual? Well if we do care, we dont care enough not to kill the 4 other people that we have no idea who they are. If you can't feel compassion for Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and thats just the countries Obama admits to. Imagine mexico targeted the cartels like this. Imagine some cartel members were hiding in an American city, Mexico decides **** it, its worth the collateral damage to kill this guy, fires missiles and kills 3 innocent Americans along with the cartel member. Mexico would be lucky if we didn't retaliate with nukes.

Double Taps- After an initial drone strike, and the carnage it causes, we have noticed that almost always people come to try to help out the people hurt in the drone strike and give medical attention to them. Obviously these people are trying to help because they are terrorists. So we fire a second hellfire missile at them. :biggums: Targeted strikes, yeah thats what these are.

Eric Holder, (Obama's AG) when questioned about the legality of killing American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki, without due process, Holder insisted due process was achieved. He stated there was a difference between due process and judicial process, and that although judicial process had not been achieved the constitution only requires due process. :biggums:

Holder had the balls to claim that an American president along with pentagon personnel can execute American citizens outside America as long as these generals and the administration discuss it beforehand. He argued this was sufficient to satisfy the due process requirement of the constitution. Al-Awlaki's 14 year old son was also killed in yemen by a drone strike. Everyone got up in arms over the death of Trayvon Martin as they should have been, but no one cares that a 14 year old American citizen was killed by our government with no evidence of any crimes he committed? (he was not the target of the strike). Where is congressional approval of military operations in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, etc?

Lets be honest drones prevent American casualties and American casualties alone. If your neighbourhood had gang members that lived next to you, and you were too afraid to report them to the police, should the police be allowed to fire missiles at them possibly killing your children? If your kids died in a signature strike, and then your wife goes to help them and gets killed in a double tap strike, would you not hate the people that did this for the rest of your life? Imagine what you would say about police that fired missiles into poor communities to avoid the risks of going in.

Sad part is I used to think Liberals like myself were principled and would speak out against actions of any American president that did war crimes and violated the constitution. Only to find out we are just as partisan as the conservatives. Its ok when our guy kills innocent brown people. Its sad the choices in this "democracy" are Romney and Obama. Given that of course ill vote for Obama.
an old post of mine from 2 years ago.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278950&page=2

2. we disagree on NSA spying, I am against it
3. We disagree on bradley manning and snowden, i think overall they have done a great service to the country
4. We disagree on what the size of government should be.


You and starface are so ideologically close, but you've spent hours bickering with him. It's silly.
THis comparison actually offends me. KevinNYC is a decent person, starface is not.
How so? starface thinks all black people are violent and prone to crimes inherently, and the problem is whites like me are too PC and scared to call them on it. I completely disagree with that.
He has come close on multiple occasions of calling me a race traitor :lol, never has but I can tell he wants to.

[FrobeShaw]

starface sounds like a swell guy. He should post on /pol/ Right up his alley.

[MavsSuperFan]

starface sounds like a swell guy. He should post on /pol/ Right up his alley.
he is currently using the azitotile screename or something like that

[IamRAMBO24]

What :lol? Why would anyone do this



True, I am not an anarchist



I disagree with KevinNYC on alot of things.
1. he supports the drone strikes. I am totally against signiture strikes and appalled by double tap strikes


an old post of mine from 2 years ago.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278950&page=2

2. we disagree on NSA spying, I am against it
3. We disagree on bradley manning and snowden, i think overall they have done a great service to the country
4. We disagree on what the size of government should be.


THis comparison actually offends me. KevinNYC is a decent person, starface is not.
How so? starface thinks all black people are violent and prone to crimes inherently, and the problem is whites like me are too PC and scared to call them on it. I completely disagree with that.
He has come close on multiple occasions of calling me a race traitor :lol, never has but I can tell he wants to.

Why do you even bother? Cactus Jack is a complete joke. He is just a grammar wh*re and an opportunistic troll. He adds nothing of value to the forum.

[DaHeezy]

:facepalm

you're a damn joke.

you dont have red b/c you speak your mind.

you have it b/c you post like a jackass and b/c you practically beg for it with attention whore threads like this.

What a surprise. Rep thread comes up and this guy appears as per usual.
This guy cares just as much for the rep system, just for the opposite reason.

[Im Still Ballin]

What a surprise. Rep thread comes up and this guy appears as per usual.
This guy cares just as much for the rep system, just for the opposite reason.
:eek:
:applause:
Kent exposed.

[KingBeasley08]

All these red bars nikkas so mad. The rep system is a dumb part of ISH that is only here for a few months in the off-season. People that take it so seriously need to get over themselves and post what they want. If you agree with what I said, please rep lol

[Cactus-Sack]

Why do you even bother? Cactus Jack is a complete joke. He is just a grammar wh*re and an opportunistic troll. He adds nothing of value to the forum.

*sack

[MadeFromDust]

Banned

:eek:
:applause:
Kent exposed.
Damn. Another one of my red homies has fallen. Wonder what he said? :(

[YouGotServed]

What a surprise. Rep thread comes up and this guy appears as per usual.
This guy cares just as much for the rep system, just for the opposite reason.

Negged.

[Cactus-Sack]

What :lol? Why would anyone do this



True, I am not an anarchist



I disagree with KevinNYC on alot of things.
1. he supports the drone strikes. I am totally against signiture strikes and appalled by double tap strikes


an old post of mine from 2 years ago.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278950&page=2

2. we disagree on NSA spying, I am against it
3. We disagree on bradley manning and snowden, i think overall they have done a great service to the country
4. We disagree on what the size of government should be.


THis comparison actually offends me. KevinNYC is a decent person, starface is not.
How so? starface thinks all black people are violent and prone to crimes inherently, and the problem is whites like me are too PC and scared to call them on it. I completely disagree with that.
He has come close on multiple occasions of calling me a race traitor :lol, never has but I can tell he wants to.

Like I said, you bicker about completely unimportant, very slight differences in your statism. It's quite silly to say you "disagree" with either of them.

[IamRAMBO24]

Like I said, you bicker about completely unimportant, very slight differences in your statism. It's quite silly to say you "disagree" with either of them.

The fact you have failed to carve an identity for yourself has proven beyond a shadow of doubt most of your post are pretty insignificant. Respect your elders noob. That's the problem with you noobs; you guys try way too hard by strong arming respectable elders like myself and Mavs in order to carve an identity for yourself without realizing respect is something you have to earn and not something that is there for the taking.

[Bandito]

Iamrambo trying to hard as usual. Let it go brodie.

[Cactus-Sack]

Iamrambo trying to hard as usual. Let it go brodie.

I don't think he's trying hard enough. Used to be somewhat entertaining, last couple months he's been an utter bore. barely above I'm still ballin now.