Charlie Zelenoff gets his azz kicked + gets choked out

[BigBoss]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh7Rf9OTc7Z81xB6Hg

He was begging for mercy at the end. Went out like a bitch (Dave Chapelle voice)

[BoogieWoogieMan]

There goes his unblemished record. :(

[Rodmantheman]

lol

[kentatm]

Who?


you been here since '09, have 17k+ votes and dont know who Charlie Z is?

that fool infamous here at ISH.

link (https://www.google.com/search?q=charlie+z+insidehoops&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.*******:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb)

have at it.

it'll be a strange trip.:lol

[alenleomessi]

he obviously had an off day.. he will come back stronger

[MadeFromDust]

Who?
Idunno :confusedshrug:

[Lamar Doom]

Who?

Mentally handicapped kid who used to post here. He's just functional enough that it's hard for people to grasp that he's clinically crazy and his antics are so abrasive that he gets labeled "troll". He lives in a delusional fantasy land that goes unchecked by his idiot parents, he believes he's the greatest fighter in the world. Things like the video above happen and he considers it a win. The kid needs help but the people in his life that are in a position to help him just perpetuate his delusions and allow him to go through life largely unchecked. He's been to jail for assault and will undoubtedly go back or be killed in a situation like the one in this video where cooler heads don't prevail. It's actually really sad.

[1987_Lakers]

Mentally handicapped kid who used to post here. He's just functional enough that it's hard for people to grasp that he's clinically crazy and his antics are so abrasive that he gets labeled "troll". He lives in a delusional fantasy land that goes unchecked by his idiot parents, he believes he's the greatest fighter in the world. Things like the video above happen and he considers it a win. The kid needs help but the people in his life that are in a position to help him just perpetuate his delusions and allow him to go through life largely unchecked. He's been to jail for assault and will undoubtedly go back or be killed in a situation like the one in this video where cooler heads don't prevail. It's actually really sad.

Weren't you two friends at one point? I remember you supporting him. What happened?

[DonDadda59]

Ole Charlie really does bring out the worst in people...

[Brujesino]

It was hilarious ,sad and great all in one.

[Godzuki]

that was awesome


ABOUT TIME SOMEONE FINISHED CHARLIE Z!!!

god man i'd get so mad watching him run away once the other person started swinging, or he would go down on a kneee and they'd stop.


that guy that beat him up deserves a medal :bowdown:

[Lamar Doom]

Weren't you two friends at one point? I remember you supporting him. What happened?

I used to play his #1 fan and go watch and photograph his "fights". I didn't realize how sick he was and I regret it. The last thing this kid needs is someone egging him on. He needs therapy and meds, totally detached from reality. It's a really f*cked up situation with an inevitably grim finale if nobody convinces his parents (or maybe the state) to help him.

[Meticode]

I can't believe we're still talking about this motherf*cker. He truly is a legend.

[masonanddixon]

Whats the backstory to this video (who is the other guy and why is he kickboxing a guy in a boxing match)?

[Meticode]

Whats the backstory to this video (who is the other guy and why is he kickboxing a guy in a boxing match)?
The back story of Charlie Z is that he came on ISH in the OTC Lounge always talking shit how he was a great fighter. He literally made dozens of threads. There's os many videos of him boxing and getting his ass kick and he comes back and still talks shit (doesn't' come back anymore though).

Either he's highly trolling people or he's incredibly stupid.

[masonanddixon]

The back story of Charlie Z is that he came on ISH in the OTC Lounge always talking shit how he was a great fighter. He literally made dozens of threads. There's os many videos of him boxing and getting his ass kick and he comes back and still talks shit (doesn't' come back anymore though).

Either he's highly trolling people or he's incredibly stupid.

I've seen his vids and know of him but I am wondering who the other dude is and why he's kickboxing him...and what did Charlie say to make him so upset--racial epithet as in the Deonaty Wilder vid?

[russwest0]

Mentally handicapped kid who used to post here. He's just functional enough that it's hard for people to grasp that he's clinically crazy and his antics are so abrasive that he gets labeled "troll". He lives in a delusional fantasy land that goes unchecked by his idiot parents, he believes he's the greatest fighter in the world. Things like the video above happen and he considers it a win. The kid needs help but the people in his life that are in a position to help him just perpetuate his delusions and allow him to go through life largely unchecked. He's been to jail for assault and will undoubtedly go back or be killed in a situation like the one in this video where cooler heads don't prevail. It's actually really sad.

What was his username on ISH?

[oh the horror]

It's funny because he's not getting into situations where the beatings are growing and dudes are getting more physical with him. Before somehow he would weasel his way out of these situations. But now he's just catching beatings.

[East_Stone_Ya]

nothing new here, just Charlie getting another whoopin

[bdreason]

What was his username on ISH?


His original user name was ballerakaboxer or something like that. I remember the first vids he posted were just him shooting hoops, or punching a heavy and talking about how great he was. It was all pretty funny until he started picking fights with real people... and it's all been downhill since then.

[Lebron23]

Charlie got his @$$ kicked. I really feel bad for charlie. He really needs some proffessional help. He also thinks that he beat Dejohn Curtis/Dejohn Daniels on his facebook account.

https://www.facebook.com/charlie.zelenoff.16?fref=ts

[russwest0]

Yall hatin on the GOAT :rockon: :rockon:

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/540216_160729430781570_1403532835_n.jpg

[Lebron23]

Yall hatin on the GOAT :rockon: :rockon:

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/540216_160729430781570_1403532835_n.jpg


Who's the guy on your avatar?? it is Lamar_Doom.

[9erempiree]

I remember him when I was lurking here.

[Lebron23]

I remember him when I was lurking here.

Who are you? I mean your first account in this forum.

[russwest0]

Look at his FB page, he's a Thunder fan?

https://www.facebook.com/charlie.zelenoff.16?fref=ts

The GOAT boxer is a Thunder fan :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Lamar Doom]

The GOAT boxer is a Thunder fan :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:


I just want to re-iterate that the played out "hype Charlie" joke is the same thing as picking on an autistic or down syndrome kid. Considering he made a video about ISH fairly recently I think it's safe to say he still browses the forum from time to time. I know you think being a shithead is funny but fall back for a second and consider that someone could get hurt because people encourage this kid. Be decent, this isn't necessarily consequence free trolling.


Who's the guy on your avatar?? it is Lamar_Doom.

There's no underscore in my handle and I'm way prettier than that guy.

[russwest0]

I just want to re-iterate that the played out "hype Charlie" joke is the same thing as picking on an autistic or down syndrome kid. Considering he made a video about ISH fairly recently I think it's safe to say he still browses the forum from time to time. I know you think being a shithead is funny but fall back for a second and consider that someone could get hurt because people encourage this kid. Be decent, this isn't necessarily consequence free trolling.



There's no underscore in my handle and I'm way prettier than that guy.

lol what so he isn't really 63-0?

[FrobeShaw]

I just want to re-iterate that the played out "hype Charlie" joke is the same thing as picking on an autistic or down syndrome kid. Considering he made a video about ISH fairly recently I think it's safe to say he still browses the forum from time to time. I know you think being a shithead is funny but fall back for a second and consider that someone could get hurt because people encourage this kid. Be decent, this isn't necessarily consequence free trolling.


Anyone who falls for ironic hyping deserves it, tbh. Unless they're an actual child, there is no excuse.

[Lebron23]

How was his parents? Does charlie have any siblings?? he was still bragging in his fb account that he beat dejohn.

[Lamar Doom]

Anyone who falls for ironic hyping deserves it, tbh. Unless they're an actual child, there is no excuse.


Do you understand he's mentally handicapped? An "actual child" has more logic and reasoning than Charlie. He's suffering from serious delusions. The kid needs psychiatric help. It's not just some dumb ass falling for people f*cking with him.

[Im Still Ballin]

Do you understand he's mentally handicapped? An "actual child" has more logic and reasoning than Charlie. He's suffering from serious delusions. The kid needs psychiatric help. It's not just some dumb ass falling for people f*cking with him.
He's a lost cause. **** up nerd.

[FrobeShaw]

He's deluded and needs psychiatric help because he visions himself as a great fighter and apparently tries working for it? He does train, right?

[Lamar Doom]

you guys know best. enjoy your trolling, seems like a super fun way to spend time

[russwest0]

Do you understand he's mentally handicapped? An "actual child" has more logic and reasoning than Charlie. He's suffering from serious delusions. The kid needs psychiatric help. It's not just some dumb ass falling for people f*cking with him.

Or maybe he's totally aware of whats going on but is having fun playing the character and ****ing with people :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[Im Still Ballin]

you guys know best. enjoy your trolling, seems like a super fun way to spend time
6 years on ISH. Don't ever call me out on wasting time. I can spitball a post in 20 seconds on my phone. Go check yourself dweeb.

[Lamar Doom]

Or maybe he's totally aware of whats going on but is having fun playing the character and ****ing with people :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:


You should just operate under that assumption instead of listening to the guy who's spent time with him and is telling you that's not the case. I've personally seen him sucker punch two people (within 10 feet both times), one he hid in a doorway and swung on the dude as he walked past, the other was putting on his pants in a gym. He's been locked up for assault - sucker punching two people in the same day. All of the above are "wins" on the record he claims. As you can see in the video he's not a good fighter and will not do well in any fight against anyone who knows they're fighting him. That doesn't mean he can't do real damage by swinging on some unsuspecting civilian. He's running around calling Deontay Wilder a n*gger and threatening his daughter, that's a good way to get yourself killed in LA, he's lucky Deontay was on film, in a gym, and a relatively gentle soul for their rendezvous. You think it's a joke? Fine. Do what you want. You're not gonna feel bad for egging him on when he punches some old man in the temple and does real damage or gets killed f*cking with someone who doesn't have limits? That's on you. I'm telling you from personal experience it's not a joke, he's not "real life trolling", he's a sick kid who goes unchecked by dumbass parents who believe he's harmless and don't understand the severity of the situation. It will end very poorly for him unless something changes. I've said my piece, laugh at and prod the disabled kid if you like.

[Lamar Doom]

6 years on ISH. Don't ever call me out on wasting time. I can spitball a post in 20 seconds on my phone. Go check yourself dweeb.

awesome stuff man, can't wait to read more. got any "let's talk about rep" threads planned for tomorrow? do you feel sad when you log off and you go back to being the real you? night champ.

[dr.hee]

awesome stuff man, can't wait to read more. got any "let's talk about rep" threads planned for tomorrow? do you feel sad when you log off and you go back to being the real you? night champ.


http://nbatitlechase.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/nelly-surprised-face.gif

[Im Still Ballin]

awesome stuff man, can't wait to read more. got any "let's talk about rep" threads planned for tomorrow? do you feel sad when you log off and you go back to being the real you? night champ.
Try harder. You've spent 6+ years on an internet forum. I don't think I need to say anymore.

LOL.

[FrobeShaw]

awesome stuff man, can't wait to read more. got any "let's talk about rep" threads planned for tomorrow? do you feel sad when you log off and you go back to being the real you? night champ.
http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/84085-seinfeld-shudder-cringe-gif-im-zgoa.gif

better luck next time, Ballin.

[kNIOKAS]

It's pretty evident he's not right in his mind. Sad to watch people beating him like it's a free deal, cashing out on his illness.

Listen to what LamarDoom says, and stop being ignorant.

[Im Still Ballin]

http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/84085-seinfeld-shudder-cringe-gif-im-zgoa.gif

better luck next time, Ballin.
Reported for thuggish, ganging tactics.

[Im Still Ballin]

It's pretty evident he's not right in his mind. Sad to watch people beating him like it's a free deal, cashing out on his illness.

Listen to what LamarDoom says, and stop being ignorant.
OH this is rich. Coming from you. Stop being a ****ing hero, Charlie is an adult, he can do what he pleases. Don't act like you would protect him in real life you facade of a person.

You're a joke. Nerd.

[millwad]

Try harder. You've spent 6+ years on an internet forum. I don't think I need to say anymore.

LOL.

You have in 6 months almost posted half of the amount of posts that Lamar has posted over 6 years. And you're a lame troll, the time you now spend on ISH trolling is mist likely nothing compared to the shit you have been up to on other forums.

Lamar knows the kid, he knows that he is sick. In fact, any random sane person can see that Charlie needs help for real. You and other miserable trolls who are hyping him up and provoking him, you are the one's who will be indirectly responsible for him getting killed or Charlie hurting someone for real. It is not even fun.

And Lamar, thanks for at least trying setting people straight.

[Im Still Ballin]

You have in 6 months almost posted half of the amount of posts that Lamar has posted over 6 years. And you're a lame troll, the time you now spend on ISH trolling is mist likely nothing compared to the shit you have been up to on other forums.

Lamar knows the kid, he knows that he is sick. In fact, any random sane person can see that Charlie needs help for real. You and other miserable trolls who are hyping him up and provoking him, you are the one's who will be indirectly responsible for him getting killed or Charlie hurting someone for real. It is not even fun.

And Lamar, thanks for at least trying setting people straight.
nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.

[nathanjizzle]

I used to play his #1 fan and go watch and photograph his "fights". I didn't realize how sick he was and I regret it. The last thing this kid needs is someone egging him on. He needs therapy and meds, totally detached from reality. It's a really f*cked up situation with an inevitably grim finale if nobody convinces his parents (or maybe the state) to help him.

why are you his fanboy. hes not at all good at boxing.

[FrobeShaw]

You have in 6 months almost posted half of the amount of posts that Lamar has posted over 6 years. And you're a lame troll, the time you now spend on ISH trolling is mist likely nothing compared to the shit you have been up to on other forums.

Lamar knows the kid, he knows that he is sick. In fact, any random sane person can see that Charlie needs help for real. You and other miserable trolls who are hyping him up and provoking him, you are the one's who will be indirectly responsible for him getting killed or Charlie hurting someone for real. It is not even fun.

And Lamar, thanks for at least trying setting people straight.

Aren't you the same guy who tries "exposing" the Wilt stan on a consistent basis to the point of writing essays and digging up dirt while mercilessly mocking him? I'd even go as far as to say that you're obsessed with him for being obsessed with Wilt. Think about that. I mean, it's hilarious. You cannot make this up. What if he decides one day that he's going to take his life because the bad man ruined his day? It's as possible as Charlie here getting killed because some random losers on the internet said he was a great fighter.

What I'm saying is, take your own advice, you deranged tool.

[ArbitraryWater]

lmfao


Mentally handicapped kid who used to post here. He's just functional enough that it's hard for people to grasp that he's clinically crazy and his antics are so abrasive that he gets labeled "troll". He lives in a delusional fantasy land that goes unchecked by his idiot parents, he believes he's the greatest fighter in the world. Things like the video above happen and he considers it a win. The kid needs help but the people in his life that are in a position to help him just perpetuate his delusions and allow him to go through life largely unchecked. He's been to jail for assault and will undoubtedly go back or be killed in a situation like the one in this video where cooler heads don't prevail. It's actually really sad.


This it seems... sad.

[ArbitraryWater]

Charlie got his @$$ kicked. I really feel bad for charlie. He really needs some proffessional help. He also thinks that he beat Dejohn Curtis/Dejohn Daniels on his facebook account.

https://www.facebook.com/charlie.zelenoff.16?fref=ts

His facebook page... my god. The guy is lost


He's deluded and needs psychiatric help because he visions himself as a great fighter and apparently tries working for it? He does train, right?

https://www.facebook.com/charlie.zelenoff.16?fref=ts


Or maybe he's totally aware of whats going on but is having fun playing the character and ****ing with people :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

Just read through this mess... Yes, people can be deluded, such thing exists...

And russwest, you and Euroleague are the first to come to mind when thinking about a Elliot Rodger... Budadiii too.

[Styles p]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgAy7yrjZos
claiming it a win :oldlol:

[BigBoss]

awesome stuff man, can't wait to read more. got any "let's talk about rep" threads planned for tomorrow? do you feel sad when you log off and you go back to being the real you? night champ.


:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed:

[FatComputerNerd]

Whether he's a brilliant troll, or a delusional mentally ill guy with issues, he's certainly got guts!

He's lucky he hasn't been killed yet, lol.

[FatComputerNerd]

Pre fight & Post fight Footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb37SrekUj0

Dude went overboard a little bit IMO. Can't believe he spit on him like that at the end too.

[ItsMillerTime]

Try harder. You've spent 6+ years on an internet forum. I don't think I need to say anymore.

LOL.

You have 2500+ posts in a matter of months. Plus, this isn't your first account here. Your argument is invalid. Try harder next time.

[Im Still Ballin]

You have 2500+ posts in a matter of months. Plus, this isn't your first account here. Your argument is invalid. Try harder next time.
Proof of old account?

And besides. I had 300 posts a week ago. I've been extremely sick this past week, so my posting rate is up.

[FrobeShaw]

Proof of old account?

And besides. I had 300 posts a week ago. I've been extremely sick this past week, so my posting rate is up.

Amusing that you say that as if it doesn't strengthen his argument. I'm hoping you know this and are getting a kick out of this....you know, trolling.

[russwest0]

You should just operate under that assumption instead of listening to the guy who's spent time with him and is telling you that's not the case. I've personally seen him sucker punch two people (within 10 feet both times), one he hid in a doorway and swung on the dude as he walked past, the other was putting on his pants in a gym. He's been locked up for assault - sucker punching two people in the same day. All of the above are "wins" on the record he claims. As you can see in the video he's not a good fighter and will not do well in any fight against anyone who knows they're fighting him. That doesn't mean he can't do real damage by swinging on some unsuspecting civilian. He's running around calling Deontay Wilder a n*gger and threatening his daughter, that's a good way to get yourself killed in LA, he's lucky Deontay was on film, in a gym, and a relatively gentle soul for their rendezvous. You think it's a joke? Fine. Do what you want. You're not gonna feel bad for egging him on when he punches some old man in the temple and does real damage or gets killed f*cking with someone who doesn't have limits? That's on you. I'm telling you from personal experience it's not a joke, he's not "real life trolling", he's a sick kid who goes unchecked by dumbass parents who believe he's harmless and don't understand the severity of the situation. It will end very poorly for him unless something changes. I've said my piece, laugh at and prod the disabled kid if you like.


So who is more at fault, the people on the internet who laugh at his character and behavior or these boxers who think they are badasses for whooping up on a disabled guy?

[red1]

this guy is seriously mentally ill. it's been years and he is still up to the same shit and as delusional as ever

[Godzuki]

So who is more at fault, the people on the internet who laugh at his character and behavior or these boxers who think they are badasses for whooping up on a disabled guy?


Zelenoff is. don't listen to them, this dude talks a lot of shit. he deserves it, mentally ill or not. he says racist stuff too.

and the way he fights he tries to steal people. watch when he fought Mayweathers dad, Mayweathers dad had his back turned and this guy tries to punch him.

people here are emo as fukk. CharlieZ needs a serious beating, like hospital broken hands and legs beating where he's laid out for months. To this day nobody has taught him a real lesson. thats why this clip was good, finally someone kept going after him when he quit.

[russwest0]

Zelenoff is. don't listen to them, this dude talks a lot of shit. he deserves it, mentally ill or not. he says racist stuff too.

and the way he fights he tries to steal people. watch when he fought Mayweathers dad, Mayweathers dad had his back turned and this guy tries to punch him.

people here are emo as fukk. CharlieZ needs a serious beating, like hospital broken hands and legs beating where he's laid out for months. To this day nobody has taught him a real lesson. thats why this clip was good, finally someone kept going after him when he quit.

yes, these guys are so badass for whooping up on some mentally ill nobody long after he stops fighting... :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Godzuki]

yes, these guys are so badass for whooping up on some mentally ill nobody long after he stops fighting... :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


didn't know you were such a poosy too ^

you obviously haven't watched all of his clips where he starts and initiates everything, talks about their kids, and thinks he can beat everyone up...

then he goes to fight them, throws everythign he has tiring himself out, then once the other guy goes offense, he quits or goes on one knee.

this has probably happened like a half dozen times at least boxers seem like nice guys where they let him go...but to think you're supposed to let that shit go because you think he's mentally ill :wtf: mentally ill people can learn lessons too from ass whoopings, its just nobody has followed thru on beating him bad.

[PimpinZaZa]

awesome stuff man, can't wait to read more. got any "let's talk about rep" threads planned for tomorrow? do you feel sad when you log off and you go back to being the real you? night champ.

:roll:
Take that!!

[El Kabong]

Yikes, that's the worst one I've seen so far. Normally it's just someone wanting to bunch him in the head a few times, but that guy looked like he wanted to do some serious damage. Z is lucky he organized this thing at a gym with witnesses, cause if this was a back alley type thing you might be reading his obituary after that choke hold.

[millwad]

didn't know you were such a poosy too ^

you obviously haven't watched all of his clips where he starts and initiates everything, talks about their kids, and thinks he can beat everyone up...

then he goes to fight them, throws everythign he has tiring himself out, then once the other guy goes offense, he quits or goes on one knee.

this has probably happened like a half dozen times at least boxers seem like nice guys where they let him go...but to think you're supposed to let that shit go because you think he's mentally ill :wtf: mentally ill people can learn lessons too from ass whoopings, its just nobody has followed thru on beating him bad.

There's no need to fight Charlie at all, the guy is mentally ill and he has no clue about the thin ice he is on.

[BlazerRed]

Russ is Charlie Z? :eek:

[Cactus-Sack]

So any of you ish doctors wanna diagnose what "mental illness" Charlie has?


Charlie just a got a lot of self-belief. Sometimes, all you need to do in order to succeed is...


http://38.media.tumblr.com/1a67445a120dd2902f5732b760f6a6be/tumblr_n6skziCeAh1tt2jjyo1_500.gif

[Styles p]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGSLYvtbLBA
charlie talking about the fight he just won.

[Godzuki]

So any of you ish doctors wanna diagnose what "mental illness" Charlie has?


Charlie just a got a lot of self-belief. Sometimes, all you need to do in order to succeed is...


http://38.media.tumblr.com/1a67445a120dd2902f5732b760f6a6be/tumblr_n6skziCeAh1tt2jjyo1_500.gif


this is exactly how i feel. everyone wants to pretend everything is a mental illness these days. its a overly PC society with a diagnosis for everyone who isn't 100% right. Charlie is like 80% right imo, probably higher with a lot of belief in himself. he's not the type of retard or mentlaly ill guy who is walking around in circles chasing birds and stuff.


nobody should have any guilt beating him down hard, if anything they'd be doing him a favor since it might set a REAL deterrence to him starting all of these beefs with pro fighters.

and honestly i almost feel for these pro fighters more because yoiu know they really want to hurt him but they can't because of the camera, people around, and charges being pressed while Charlie just keeps talking mad shit about them and their family.

[rezznor]

this is exactly how i feel. everyone wants to pretend everything is a mental illness these days. its a overly PC society with a diagnosis for everyone who isn't 100% right. Charlie is like 80% right imo, probably higher with a lot of belief in himself. he's not the type of retard or mentlaly ill guy who is walking around in circles chasing birds and stuff.


nobody should have any guilt beating him down hard, if anything they'd be doing him a favor since it might set a REAL deterrence to him starting all of these beefs with pro fighters.

and honestly i almost feel for these pro fighters more because yoiu know they really want to hurt him but they can't because of the camera, people around, and charges being pressed while Charlie just keeps talking mad shit about them and their family.

agreed. i think a beat down is actually in his best interests. part of the reason why he keeps doing what hes doing is because he has never faced any real repercussions imo. just like his dad coddling him. ppl letting him off just reinforces his behaviour. i think getting his ass truly kicked (not wishing any permanent damage on him) will make him think twice about starting shit, sucker punching ppl, etc

[rezznor]

wilder talks about zelenoff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGa8FOlalCc

[KNOW1EDGE]

I've worked with children and adults with mental disabilities, I'm no doctor, but Charlie Zelenoff is definitely mentally ill.

Chuck's ability to distort reality to fit his narcissistic ego is a true inspiration for people suffering from self-confidence issues.

Chuck is ill

[oh the horror]

For you guys that claim some here are being "overly PC" and such ....have you seen a lot of Charlie's videos and know his history?


This is beyond him having "confidence" and we mostly thought he was trolling for awhile but he goes beyond that.

[BigBoss]

I saw this on a youtube comment :roll: :roll: :roll:

Charlie Z's first week in prison.

Charlie Z approaches the black brotherhood in prison. He's been in prison for 3 days and has seen enough prison movies to realize that when your in the pen you need respect, so he devises plan to knock out the leader of a feared group in his penitentiary.

Approaches 7 black men in blue jumpsuits and demands to see Caleb the leader of the brotherhood whose doing a back to back life setence for murder, but it doesn't scare Charlie Z.

"I thought i was in prison, not the planet of the apes. i'll fu$k anyone of you up" - Charlie Z

" what you say cracker?!?!?" - Inmate says, giving Charlie Z the side eye

"i'm 63-0. i've knocked out people 3 times your size in the real world. let's fight right now 12 rounds"

Inmate stands up and slips a knife out from his sleeve, but his gang leader Caleb raises his hand and says no Wallace "not here. i got this"


" Look white boy i don't know what you think this is, but i know you've only been here a few days so imma give you a pass if you walk away right now. "

"Pu$$y. I knew you was scared thats all you had to say. " Charlie Z then shouts to the other innates in the yard " The black brotherhood are pu$$ies. I'm Charlie Z and i'm 63-0 undefeated champion. things are gonna change around here now or ill knock everyone the *** out"

The yard is silent. The black brotherhood turns their back to charlie Z and goes about their business. Charlie Z walks back to his cell with inmates parting the yard giving him confused glances

"I'm 64-0 I just won by DQ. 64-0. 64-0. " -Charlie Z says in his head. The day being a victory and respect gained. He was feared.

6 AM the next morning at breakfast.

Charlie Z goes to cafeteria with his chin up being 64-0. Prison isn't going to be a problem. He had respect in here now.

Charlie Z gets his tray and picks out 2 hash browns, eggs, with 2 pieces of toast and a carton of apple juice. Breakfast of champions. He deserved it. Charlie takes a seat.

3 minutes later the black brotherhood would join then.

"Whats up charlie?!" - Wallace

"Hey we just wanted to apologize about yesterday" - Lavell, another member of the brother.

6 members of the black brotherhood surround Charlie Z.

Charlie Z is sweating a little now

" uhh it's okay. yo look i gotta go "

Charlie Z gets up, but two hands from behind him press him back down.

"You aint go nowhere cracka" - The voice of Caleb.

"Yo f$ck this 6-1 on $hit. "- Charlie Z

Charlie Z crawls under the table and manages to run away into the kitchen.

The black brotherhood chase him into the kitchen and tell the chef to beat it. The other inmates in the cafeteria now gather around to watch the action.

Charlie Z is backed up into a corner

"Yo ill fight any of you muthaphucks 1-1. "

"There's not goin be a fight " -caleb

"We lovers not fighters charlie " -Wallace

The black brotherhood begin to unbutton their pants and approach Charlie

"WTF is this homo $hit i thought u guys were the black brotherhood?!"

"We're the gay brotherhood charlie. and we want want you for breakfast"

"Man what the phuck!!! Time out yooo time out" -Charlie Z says trying to escape but he's backed into a corner. " yo you guys WIN. it's over. fights over. "

" We were hoping you would submit charlie" -Caleb


Charlie Z is now 64-1

The loss coming from submission.

[oh the horror]

Charlie already claiming victory.

http://youtu.be/j8lbAjwC5v8

http://youtu.be/kGSLYvtbLBA

Someone is going to end up really beating the shit out of this guy.

[Godzuki]

agreed. i think a beat down is actually in his best interests. part of the reason why he keeps doing what hes doing is because he has never faced any real repercussions imo. just like his dad coddling him. ppl letting him off just reinforces his behaviour. i think getting his ass truly kicked (not wishing any permanent damage on him) will make him think twice about starting shit, sucker punching ppl, etc


exactly.

the people using mental illness to defend and coddle him, aren't doing him any favors. he'll never learn a lesson from words, a shrink, or any of that BS.

but he will learn not to start beefs with people when he really starts getting his ass kicked. I bet even this last guy made him think twice a little knowing some guys aren't just going to stop anymore.

and honestly its ridiculous you all pretend he's so mentally ill. There is mentally ill where you feel sorry for the retard, and then there are guys who are more or less normal, very cocky, loves attention, and possibly mentally ill....CharlieZ is the latter. you all playing shrink on him is ridiculous to me.

Its almost human nature to be arrogant and cocky with some people where even when they lose, they never own up. Im sure everyone knows someone like that, especially people into fighting for some reason. Charlie has always sought attention, and he got it with the viral video of him and Mayweather Sr....he's not doing anything that makes me think he's completely mentally ill to the point of pity. he's even had a few draws with those young gym guys or whatever where they're sparring at some fitness center. Its not like he's always getting his ass kicked bad.

[Godzuki]

Charlie Zelenoff gets... 07-13-2014 05:18 AM wow what a stupid dipshit post. don't you get that it is exactly why he cannot be held responsible... he's crazy- niokas
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just like old times...

a good example of why you can't be a nice guy here. a lot of CharlieZ's always swinging and hiding ...

[russwest0]

wait since that guy started kicking and going with muy thai shit didn't charlie technically win the fight from DQ?

Lmao, Charlie Z still the UBF champion :roll: :roll: :roll:

[DonDadda59]

Charlie already claiming victory.

http://youtu.be/j8lbAjwC5v8

http://youtu.be/kGSLYvtbLBA

Someone is going to end up really beating the shit out of this guy.


wait since that guy started kicking and going with muy thai shit didn't charlie technically win the fight from DQ?

Lmao, Charlie Z still the UBF champion :roll: :roll: :roll:

AND STILL (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hsGqanHTYE)

http://d22r54gnmuhwmk.cloudfront.net/photos/9/da/sz/KrDASZxsGdMqelR-556x313-noPad.jpg

[Godzuki]

wait since that guy started kicking and going with muy thai shit didn't charlie technically win the fight from DQ?

Lmao, Charlie Z still the UBF champion :roll: :roll: :roll:


its like nickyoung reincarnated ...

i swear i'm seeing flashbacks of everyone from 3~ years ago, except all the reds have different handles, and its still the same snobs with stacks of green with the same gigantic egos :oldlol:

oh well at least i'm back in the red, THANK YOU!! :pimp:

[Godzuki]

you guys really should learn to make arguments instead of anon comments. idc about the negs, i'm used to being in the red and i'm going to be honest either way, but just learn to make a decent argument for your side thx.


-I'll add to that. Calling everything "pc" or claiming everyone you disagree with is being too sensitive is fine but you are wrong here, you don't know what you're talking about

-lol @/your weak diagnosis skills - kent

cmon just tell me how he is so mentally ill...i don't see it. I think i made a reasonable argument for why he isn't so much, or why we shouldn't pity him. I think the solution of getting his ass beat is as good as any...

to me its just a overly condescending view of him where he isn't that incapable.

neg me all you want, you should realize i had maybe the 2nd highest reds in ISH history at one point....i almost weclome it these days :)

[Qwyjibo]

He will eventually get murdered in prison.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Charlie Z needs an intervention because he is mentally ill.

You don't have to be wearing diapers, drooling and living in a hospital to have a mental illness.

I don't feel bad for Chuck, he is a f*ckboy, but he is obviously not in his right mind and the people around him only make the problem worse. It's quite sad. He needs to be put in his place, but the problem is his brain doesn't work like ours, and his brain can't accept that. I know people like him.

[jstern]

Many years ago on a different forum someone posted a video of a mentally ill person, who still seemed somewhat normal, other than his delusion, who thought he was a karate master. The video was from 1984, and the guy really was being kind of nice, wanting to show the owners of a karate school that he's good in karate.

But that joyful attitude was taken more like, "Who does this guy think he is," and the karate instructor took it way to far and I didn't want to finish the whole video, but basically when the mentally ill guy was on the floor he just kept stomping on his head, and the guy was killed.

And it was really sad, because this wasn't an asshole mentally ill guy like this guy, this more like an innocent little kid mentally ill.

They dragged his body out and dumped it somewhere, and for all that time his murder was unsolved, he was just a known mentally ill guy. But that video surfaced, and the cops started looking for the people involved.

I don't know what came of it. This was like back in 2008 that the video was posted.

Edit: I just found this video, it's from Youtube so hopefully they won't show the killing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=092ew9c2h8E

[El Kabong]

exactly.

the people using mental illness to defend and coddle him, aren't doing him any favors. he'll never learn a lesson from words, a shrink, or any of that BS.

but he will learn not to start beefs with people when he really starts getting his ass kicked. I bet even this last guy made him think twice a little knowing some guys aren't just going to stop anymore.

and honestly its ridiculous you all pretend he's so mentally ill. There is mentally ill where you feel sorry for the retard, and then there are guys who are more or less normal, very cocky, loves attention, and possibly mentally ill....CharlieZ is the latter. you all playing shrink on him is ridiculous to me.

Its almost human nature to be arrogant and cocky with some people where even when they lose, they never own up. Im sure everyone knows someone like that, especially people into fighting for some reason. Charlie has always sought attention, and he got it with the viral video of him and Mayweather Sr....he's not doing anything that makes me think he's completely mentally ill to the point of pity. he's even had a few draws with those young gym guys or whatever where they're sparring at some fitness center. Its not like he's always getting his ass kicked bad.
That's the thing. Nearly ever damn time he starts this shit it ends with him getting his ass kicked, which only causes him to retreat into his delusions even further. At what point is the sense supposed to be knocked into his head? Because the beatdowns are only getting worse, and it's only causing his behaviour to get worse along with it.

[Godzuki]

Many years ago on a different forum someone posted a video of a mentally ill person, who still seemed somewhat normal, other than his delusion, who thought he was a karate master. The video was from 1984, and the guy really was being kind of nice, wanting to show the owners of a karate school that he's good in karate.

But that joyful attitude was taken more like, "Who does this guy think he is," and the karate instructor took it way to far and I didn't want to finish the whole video, but basically when the mentally ill guy was on the floor he just kept stomping on his head, and the guy was killed.

And it was really sad, because this wasn't an asshole mentally ill guy like this guy, this more like an innocent little kid mentally ill.

They dragged his body out and dumped it somewhere, and for all that time his murder was unsolved, he was just a known mentally ill guy. But that video surfaced, and the cops started looking for the people involved.

I don't know what came of it. This was like back in 2008 that the video was posted.

Edit: I just found this video, it's from Youtube so hopefully they won't show the killing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=092ew9c2h8E
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i reemember watching that here

theres also one with a karate instuctor who thought he could beat people with energy or something...and its like his students let him buy into it. then he proceeds to get his ass kicked bad in some spar.

difference is CharlieZ has some draws, boxers are generally cocky and never own up to a L, and everyone Charlie fights has huge pillows on their hands, and Charlie minimizes damage like a champ. if you want to hurt CharlieZ you really have to do it outside of the arenas he starts fights in.

[Godzuki]

That's the thing. Nearly ever damn time he starts this shit it ends with him getting his ass kicked, which only causes him to retreat into his delusions even further. At what point is the sense supposed to be knocked into his head? Because the beatdowns are only getting worse, and it's only causing his behaviour to get worse along with it.


honestly the beatings are NEVER bad. Charlie goes down on a knee as soon as the other guy goes offensive EVERY TIME. Thats why its so frustrating watching his fights, he minimizes all of the damage where it barely even phases him. it just shows how big the pillows are with boxing gloves.

like i said this last guy was the first time anybody really took it further, and even then he had to use MMA.

[masonanddixon]

Apparently the guy who beat up Charlie this time is only 16, lol

[Styles p]

AND STILL (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hsGqanHTYE)

http://d22r54gnmuhwmk.cloudfront.net/photos/9/da/sz/KrDASZxsGdMqelR-556x313-noPad.jpg
dat ****ing pic :oldlol: :oldlol: remember when he bought her high heels and was talking about how he was gonna give them to kim and she was gonna be his girl and he was gonna KO kanye :lol :oldlol: :oldlol: ****ing charlie "the russian bride"

[Styles p]

Many years ago on a different forum someone posted a video of a mentally ill person, who still seemed somewhat normal, other than his delusion, who thought he was a karate master. The video was from 1984, and the guy really was being kind of nice, wanting to show the owners of a karate school that he's good in karate.

But that joyful attitude was taken more like, "Who does this guy think he is," and the karate instructor took it way to far and I didn't want to finish the whole video, but basically when the mentally ill guy was on the floor he just kept stomping on his head, and the guy was killed.

And it was really sad, because this wasn't an asshole mentally ill guy like this guy, this more like an innocent little kid mentally ill.

They dragged his body out and dumped it somewhere, and for all that time his murder was unsolved, he was just a known mentally ill guy. But that video surfaced, and the cops started looking for the people involved.

I don't know what came of it. This was like back in 2008 that the video was posted.

Edit: I just found this video, it's from Youtube so hopefully they won't show the killing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=092ew9c2h8E

aww dude why did you remind me about that i first saw it here around that time. it really sucked because the guy was actually winning the fight then the other guy got pissed because he was losing to a nobody and went hulk mode and killed him, the childish guy really reminded me of a guy i went to school with. :(

[Godzuki]

aww dude why did you remind me about that i first saw it here around that time. it really sucked because the guy was actually winning the fight then the other guy got pissed because he was losing to a nobody and went hulk mode and killed him, the childish guy really reminded me of a guy i went to school with. :(


just watched it. this is true ^

he put up a good fight, then other karate guy took it real personal he made him look dumb, and did a death stomp. that stomp was super ruthless, never seen a stomp like that.

[RoseCity07]

Did anyone ever find out if this guy is mentally ill? I thought I read that he's actually a diagnosed psychotic.

[Lebron23]

I love it. By the way the guy who destroyed Charlie is 23 yrs.old, and he was defeated by a Super Asian guy named Kenneth Hwang in his first and last MMA Fight.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dejon-Daniels-135045

http://cagerank.com/j5SX.fQME/Dejon-Daniels-vs-Kenneth-Hwang

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CrmLTfZiKIc/UknpW30V9aI/AAAAAAAAFqk/ETZc51D4Tdk/s400/IMG_3087.jpg

Defeated via TKO. Dejon Daniels was TKO'ed.

[Orlando Magic]

Charlie Z shares some strikingly similar characteristics to stalkerforlife aka Justin D, tbh.

They're both incredibly delusional people overall. Ridiculously so. Charlie was quite a bit farther off overall though, so at least Justin has that going for him.

Charlie Z was 100% delusional about himself and about his bball knowledge and ability and all of life in general.

Justin is pretty delusional overall, but particularly regarding bball knowledge and ability. He is off the charts bad in that regard. However, the sad thing for him is he's actually worth quite a bit more and better overall than he gives himself credit for when it comes to everything away from basketball... so you could say that he's delusional in the direction of coming down on himself far too hard... which was actually the opposite of Charlie. Charlie's self worth was off on Mars somewhere in terms of how high it was.


TLDR;
Justin = ridiculously tears himself down regarding all aspects of life apart from basketball, which is, ironically, the thing he is worth the least at and the thing that he needs to stop being so ****ing cocky with :oldlol:
Charlie = ridiculously propped himself up on all things including basketball and was far more cocky and idiotic overall

Ah, only on InsideHoops would these people be allowed to post for extended periods.