Carlos Boozer will be sent to LA in a Gasol sign and trade

[kennethgriffin]

this is confirmed

lakers fully healthy could be ok. they should run this offense

PG Lin/Marshall/Nash
SG Kobe/Clarksson
SF Young/
PF Boozer/Randle
C Hill/Sacre

:confusedshrug: meh... looks good to me

not great.. but good

they should dump nash for a backup small forward and theyre a possible 7-8th seed

[Levity]

what is the point of taking boozer if you dont get a pick in return.

[Brokenbeat]

Confirmed where?

[kennethgriffin]

what is the point of taking boozer if you dont get a pick in return.

its a 1 year rental. lakers are just looking for expiring contracts and a competitive roster

theyre waiting on 2015

boozer and lin come off the books. but right now they can help LA

[kennethgriffin]

Confirmed where?

i'd say but jeff would ban me

[Brokenbeat]

Lol, we've been talking about this on LG all night, and there's zero confirmation over there. PM a link or something because it's driving me nuts. :oldlol: :cheers:

[Sharmer]

that rosters stinks.

[kennethgriffin]

that rosters stinks.

awe common i wouldnt say "stinks"

that team makes the confrence finals out east

:lol

:roll:

we could possibly contend for a playoff spot in the real nba out west IMO

[oh the horror]

Oh boy. What a rough year it's going to be.

[ralph_i_el]

awe common i wouldnt say "stinks"

that team makes the confrence finals out east

:lol

:roll:

we could possibly contend for a playoff spot in the real nba out west IMO

starting Nick Young at the 3 and washed up Boozer at the 4. You aren't making the playoffs in the East.

That's WITH a healthy Kobe.
You are going to be sorely disappointed this season.


Here's a little secret...Nick Young isn't good.....he's never BEEN good.....he will never BE good

[kennethgriffin]

Oh boy. What a rough year it's going to be.


45 wins minimum..

if kobes 100% like he says he is....... 50 wins

[Sharmer]

awe common i wouldnt say "stinks"

that team makes the confrence finals out east

:lol

:roll:

we could possibly contend for a playoff spot in the real nba out west IMO


Thats in the east, no chance in the west. They lack inside scoring, rebounding and most of the offense would come from jump shooting.

[kennethgriffin]

starting Nick Young at the 3 and washed up Boozer at the 4. You aren't making the playoffs in the East.

That's WITH a healthy Kobe.
You are going to be sorely disappointed this season

the knicks nearly made the playoffs in the east this year with almost the same record as the 2nd last place lakers ( minus kobe )

this team ( with a healthy kobe ) contends for the 2nd seed out east

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[GimmeThat]

that rosters stinks.

apparently they enjoyed paying Brian Grant so much

they thought they'd just do it again for absolutely no reasons.

[ralph_i_el]

the knicks nearly made the playoffs in the east this year with almost the same record as the 2nd last place lakers ( minus kobe )

this team ( with a healthy kobe ) contends for the 2nd seed out east

:roll: :roll: :roll:

27 wins is not "almost" 37 wins. The 2010-11 Bulls weren't "Almost" the 95-95 Bulls

healthy kobe is not going to happen

East will be better this season.

[GimmeThat]

the knicks nearly made the playoffs in the east this year with almost the same record as the 2nd last place lakers ( minus kobe )

this team ( with a healthy kobe ) contends for the 2nd seed out east

:roll: :roll: :roll:

contend: to compete with someone or for something : to compete with a good chance of winning

[kennethgriffin]

27 wins is not "almost" 37 wins. The 2010-11 Bulls weren't "Almost" the 95-95 Bulls

healthy kobe is not going to happen

East will be better this season.



people have been saying this since 2001

its not gonna happen

:oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

east =

lebron makes 5 finals in 10 years beating 6 teams with 50+ wins

west =

kobe makes 7 finals in 10 years beating 24 teams with 50+ wins


:roll:

so odd its their jersey numbers too

[Inferno]

I dont see any sources confirming the Boozer part doe

[kennethgriffin]

I dont see any sources confirming the Boozer part doe


trust me

:cheers:

[Godzuki]

Boozer's a beast. don't listen to the haters.

thib's was way too hard on him.

Go lakers!!! hope they get Lin too. they'll be underrated.

[Brokenbeat]

I dont see any sources confirming the Boozer part doe
Here's the latest update. No idea what OP is on about though.


Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com's Ramona late Friday that a sign-and-trade arrangement with the Bulls has not been struck, with the Lakers still looking for draft compensation -- as they received in Friday's earlier trade with Houston to take back the contract of Jeremy Lin -- as the primary return for Gasol.

[AKADS]

The Lakers will finish between 10th and 12th in the west

SAS
OKC
Clippers
Rockets
Blazers
Memphis
Golden State
Suns
Dallas
New Orleans

Then maybe the Lakers and the Nuggets

[GimmeThat]

I agree that the Lakers would probably contend for a Playoff spot in the East (definitely not a top seed), but it's almost impossible for them to get the Playoffs in the West.



Right, after they were unable to re-sign Pau Gasol. They are all of a sudden a playoff contender on the East still.

unless you're trying to tell me an East team who amnested Boozer, then SIGNED Gasol is a sign of showing one player isn't significantly better than the other.

[Loneshot]

Boozer is awful. Lakers are only making these moves to free up cap space when they expire. We're in rebuild mode and Kobe will have to accept that. He'll get his chance at more rings as a coach.

[shadow]

So finally the lakers managed to trade Gasol in the end after all.

[GimmeThat]

Boozer is awful. Lakers are only making these moves to free up cap space when they expire. We're in rebuild mode and Kobe will have to accept that. He'll get his chance at more rings as a coach.


the Lakers had already drafted Randle.

there are no reasons to be on panic mode unless he ends up being injury prone.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Tanking isn't an option--the Lakers need to be good enough to entice a player from the 2015 class to sign with them. 45 wins could do that, 27-30 won't.

[Mgamer20o0]

Here's the latest update. No idea what OP is on about though.
i dont see why the lakers would take on boozer if there is no picks sent with him.

[dubeta]

Kenneth needs to see a psychiatrist

Bran lives rent free too much in his head that he can't think straight anymore

Lakers are a lottery team under any circumstance

[qrich]

Oh boy. What a rough year it's going to be.

Worst part is, that team is a limbo 10 seed team, and the pick is only top 5 protected.

Should just have guys like Marshall, Young, Randle, Sacre start and bring in ultra scrubs. I'm talking Ryan Bowen level scrubs.

[qrich]

starting Nick Young at the 3 and washed up Boozer at the 4. You aren't making the playoffs in the East.

That's WITH a healthy Kobe.
You are going to be sorely disappointed this season.


Here's a little secret...Nick Young isn't good.....he's never BEEN good.....he will never BE good

Nick Young is good if used properly, like he was in a Clippers uniform. Dude actually played decent to solid D and wasn't a blackhole.

[ImKobe]

Nick Young is good if used properly, like he was in a Clippers uniform. Dude actually played decent to solid D and wasn't a blackhole.

Nick should and will most likely be a 6th man, which fits him perfectly. He was our 1st/2nd option last season despite coming off the bench, so obviously his overall efficiency is going to be lower in a bigger role. Going from leading the team in ppg to 6th man is a whole other thing.

On the offensive end, the man was solid. 18 ppg on 44/39/83 shooting is not bad at all, especially in only 28 mpg. Problem is that he doesn't rebound or pass all that well and his D is inconsistent.

[SexSymbol]

this is confirmed

lakers fully healthy could be ok. they should run this offense

PG Lin/Marshall/Nash
SG Kobe/Clarksson
SF Young/
PF Boozer/Randle
C Hill/Sacre

:confusedshrug: meh... looks good to me

not great.. but good

they should dump nash for a backup small forward and theyre a possible 7-8th seed

Randle will start, Kobe's playing SF.
This is a great team on paper, 50+ wins. Depends on the coach ofc

[jernejteras]

can they get boozer and carmelo? that wouldn't be so bad...

[Fox]

Horrible team. Wont even make the playoffs.

[orange_chicken]

You a dumbazz. Hinrich will be in the trade. LA will get a decent point guard.


this is confirmed

lakers fully healthy could be ok. they should run this offense

PG Lin/Marshall/Nash
SG Kobe/Clarksson
SF Young/
PF Boozer/Randle
C Hill/Sacre

:confusedshrug: meh... looks good to me

not great.. but good

they should dump nash for a backup small forward and theyre a possible 7-8th seed

[longtime lurker]

Nick should and will most likely be a 6th man, which fits him perfectly. He was our 1st/2nd option last season despite coming off the bench, so obviously his overall efficiency is going to be lower in a bigger role. Going from leading the team in ppg to 6th man is a whole other thing.

On the offensive end, the man was solid. 18 ppg on 44/39/83 shooting is not bad at all, especially in only 28 mpg. Problem is that he doesn't rebound or pass all that well and his D is inconsistent.

So if Nick Young is 6th man who starts? I'm still laughing at the absurdity of giving Jordan Hill a 9 million dollar contract:roll: :roll: you could have just taken salary for picks instead of that retarded contract.

[roldy]

Lakers are going to be absolutely terrible this season. This potential roster is more unwatchable than last year's.

[kshutts1]

its a 1 year rental. lakers are just looking for expiring contracts and a competitive roster

theyre waiting on 2015

boozer and lin come off the books. but right now they can help LA

I agree with this assessment, and that's what makes it so annoying. The Lakers, very clearly, have ZERO plan. You don't sign Kobe to that contract without wanting to win now. Kobe wouldn't/shouldn't like that. Yet the Lakers seem content on being a "dumping grounds" this season? To build for the future? Kobe's deal was not a future deal. Two totally contradictory actions.

I liked the Lin move. I think he can help the Lakers this year and the pick is great for the future. But if this Boozer thing is true? Nick Young being signed (to an admittedly good deal) before offering to Monroe or Stephenson? Just makes no sense in the grand scheme of things.

[no pun intended]

Lakers are going to be absolutely terrible this season. This potential roster is more unwatchable than last year's.
Lol anyone with the right mind would know that nothing could be worse than last season.

[fiddy]

Lakers are going to be absolutely terrible this season. This potential roster is more unwatchable than last year's.
inb4 Lakers finish with more wins than the Knicks

[coin24]

inb4 Lakers finish with more wins than the Knicks

:lol :lol

[D-Rose]

Actually, the Lakers can't do this S&T anymore based on the cap.

[SexSymbol]

So if Nick Young is 6th man who starts? I'm still laughing at the absurdity of giving Jordan Hill a 9 million dollar contract:roll: :roll: you could have just taken salary for picks instead of that retarded contract.
Jordan Hill is worth every penny if he can stay healthy.
He's been better than Gasol for the last two years

[fiddy]

So if Nick Young is 6th man who starts? I'm still laughing at the absurdity of giving Jordan Hill a 9 million dollar contract:roll: :roll: you could have just taken salary for picks instead of that retarded contract.
You obviously havent seen Jordan Hill playing

[ralph_i_el]

Nick Young is good if used properly, like he was in a Clippers uniform. Dude actually played decent to solid D and wasn't a blackhole.

OK so if you have cp3 to sit that ***** in a corner and only let him spot up he can be useful. If you don't let a dude dribble he can't be a black hole. Good luck with that

[chocolatethunder]

Tanking isn't an option--the Lakers need to be good enough to entice a player from the 2015 class to sign with them. 45 wins could do that, 27-30 won't.
That probably won't happen because Kobe is 36 and will be 37 then and they have no future. They're gonna need to rebuild via the draft.

[Akrazotile]

That team is balls in terms of being any sort of a competitive contender.

HOWEVER, they have potential be a decent, fun-to-watch offensive team if they run "Linsanity" and let him just run around all over the place like he did with dAntoni, scorng and making plays for Young, Boozer and Hill. The problem is Kobe. You cant run an offense with Kobe on your team, you HAVE to have bigs who can rebound his kobe assists and score without an offense actually going through them. You have to have guys that can score at a high % bc they see the ball so little, they have to convert when they do.

Kobe is the ultimate team/system/coach killer and only when you have a roster strong enough to win despite him can you contend for anything. This roster could at least be entertaining sans kobe because they could run the floor, but with him he'll grab the ball, walk it up, run out the clock, and go 1 on 4. And miss. Then grab his ankle or his leg or his finger or whatever. And the whole team is going to blow on defense.


Theyre screwed.

[longtime lurker]

Jordan Hill is worth every penny if he can stay healthy.
He's been better than Gasol for the last two years

Jordan Hill is in no way worth 9 million a year. He's an MLE type player through and through. Gasol has been washed up the last 2 years despite the numbers, yet Jordan Hill still isn't better than him.


You obviously havent seen Jordan Hill playing

Yeah I haven't seen him play because his ass can never stay healthy or play more than 20 mins a game. He's an awesome energy/hustle bench player, but he's definitely not a starter. Don't let the gaudy stats in D'Antoni's inflated offense fool you. Lakers completely shit the bed this offseason considering there are still free agents out there that could be signed.

[poido123]

Jordan Hill is in no way worth 9 million a year. He's an MLE type player through and through. Gasol has been washed up the last 2 years despite the numbers, yet Jordan Hill still isn't better than him.



Yeah I haven't seen him play because his ass can never stay healthy or play more than 20 mins a game. He's an awesome energy/hustle bench player, but he's definitely not a starter. Don't let the gaudy stats in D'Antoni's inflated offense fool you. Lakers completely shit the bed this offseason considering there are still free agents out there that could be signed.


Have Have I missed Something? Did Lakers pay hill 9 mill a Year?

He's a respectable rotation big man off the bench, but nothing more. He should not get more than 5 mill a year.

What were they thinking :facepalm

[longtime lurker]

Have Have I missed Something? Did Lakers pay hill 9 mill a Year?

He's a respectable rotation big man off the bench, but nothing more. He should not get more than 5 mill a year.

What were they thinking :facepalm

I'm sure that's what every Lakers fan who isn't completely delusional is thinking too. The only positive(the reality is there is no positive way to spin this) is that it's a 2 year deal with a team option for the 2nd. So he could just be a 1 year 9 million dollar contract. But wasting 14 million dollars worth of capspace on Jordan Hill and Nick Young is just reckless when there are still free agents out there that could be signed. They could have called every team in the league and tell them it's open season for salary dumps as long as picks are involved.

[oh the horror]

I'm sure that's what every Lakers fan who isn't completely delusional is thinking too. The only positive(the reality is there is no positive way to spin this) is that it's a 2 year deal with a team option for the 2nd. So he could just be a 1 year 9 million dollar contract. But wasting 14 million dollars worth of capspace on Jordan Hill and Nick Young is just reckless when there are still free agents out there that could be signed. They could have called every team in the league and tell them it's open season for salary dumps as long as picks are involved.



Agreed. I'll be honest since the Kobe contract they have been hurling money at players left and right and I'm baffled.

[poido123]

I'm sure that's what every Lakers fan who isn't completely delusional is thinking too. The only positive(the reality is there is no positive way to spin this) is that it's a 2 year deal with a team option for the 2nd. So he could just be a 1 year 9 million dollar contract. But wasting 14 million dollars worth of capspace on Jordan Hill and Nick Young is just reckless when there are still free agents out there that could be signed. They could have called every team in the league and tell them it's open season for salary dumps as long as picks are involved.


Come to think of it, it actually makes sense.

Lakers would be gearing towards 2016 free agency, why not overpay ordinary players and suck enough to gain a good draft pick or two leading up til Then?

It makes me think that they purposely overpaid Bryant to suck up the cap space to suck again and gain good draft position but also have him come off the books in time for 2016 free agency.

It's quite ingenious :applause:

[poido123]

Agreed. I'll be honest since the Kobe contract they have been hurling money at players left and right and I'm baffled.


The hill and kobe contracts make sense if they are aiming at 2016, boozer expires this year.


What other commitments do they have?

[longtime lurker]

Agreed. I'll be honest since the Kobe contract they have been hurling money at players left and right and I'm baffled.

Kobe's contract can't be blamed for piss poor planning and horrible management. Kobe was smart to take the contract because they still would have made all these moves even if he took the Dirk discount. After missing out on Melo they'd just offer Pau Gasol a ridiculous 20 million dollar a contract on top of resigning Hill and Young. Face it the front office expects instant contender instead of building a team from the ground up.


Come to think of it, it actually makes sense.

Lakers would be gearing towards 2016 free agency, why not overpay ordinary players and suck enough to gain a good draft pick or two leading up til Then?

It makes me think that they purposely overpaid Bryant to suck up the cap space to suck again and gain good draft position but also have him come off the books in time for 2016 free agency.

It's quite ingenious

Actually it makes no sense because free agents aren't stupid. Who is taking less money to go to a worse situation? Even if your goal is 2016 resigning your own mediocre players is idiotic(the resigned Nicky Young which actually cuts into their caspace for 2016). They could have just taking expiring contracts for picks like they did with Lin and continue to build assets. As it stands now what's their pitch to a 2016 free agent? Come play with Randle, Nick Young and Kobe's corpse? They'd have to at least be a second round playoff team by then if they expect to be taken seriously. And 2015 is a right off because only Dragic and Rondo will be the big name free agents there. And again why the hell would anyone come to the Lakers? Currently their team is Kobe,Lin,Nash,Sacre,Kelly,Randle,Hill,Young,Clarks on and Marshall. They've spent all their cap space and still have to fill out the rest of their roster. Oh to top it off they don't have own their pick in the 2015 draft! So yeah the plan isn't ingenious at all.

[AintNoSunshine]

this is confirmed

lakers fully healthy could be ok. they should run this offense

PG Lin/Marshall/Nash
SG Kobe/Clarksson
SF Young/
PF Boozer/Randle
C Hill/Sacre

:confusedshrug: meh... looks good to me

not great.. but good

they should dump nash for a backup small forward and theyre a possible 7-8th seed


Not even in the East:roll: Kobe can sit another Playoffs out

[fiddy]

Not even in the East:roll: Kobe can sit another Playoffs out
hahahhahahhahhahahahhahhahah Take your meds son

BTW wheres your CAVs avy?

[Nastradamus]

So if Nick Young is 6th man who starts? I'm still laughing at the absurdity of giving Jordan Hill a 9 million dollar contract:roll: :roll: you could have just taken salary for picks instead of that retarded contract.

Wes Johnson played solid in the 3 and D role. They should try to keep cheap young guys like him and Kelly.

Lin Marshall Clarkston(cut or stretch Nash)
Kobe Young
Johnson Young
Boozer Randle Kelly
Hill Sacre

Find a cheap wing or two, ideall who can defend and/or shoot.

[mark]

this is confirmed

lakers fully healthy could be ok. they should run this offense

PG Lin/Marshall/Nash
SG Kobe/Clarksson
SF Young/
PF Boozer/Randle
C Hill/Sacre

:confusedshrug: meh... looks good to me

not great.. but good

they should dump nash for a backup small forward and theyre a possible 7-8th seed


Boozer interesting. Kobe won't have any of that.

[alanLA92]

This is all for the FA in 2016, where they will have draft picks and sign some players. They know it 'll be a war just to get to playoffs out of the West so why be in denial and get good role players and draft picks till 2016. Its basically a way of tanking, except with players who have lost some momentum rather than just scrubs. People just don't get it because its the Lakers,the franchise that hasn't went through the rebuild through draft like ever.

The Kobe kinda makes sense now. Pay him while he has to go through lottery team, especially when both FO and Kobe himself wants to retire a Laker.

[longtime lurker]

This is all for the FA in 2016, where they will have draft picks and sign some players. They know it 'll be a war just to get to playoffs out of the West so why be in denial and get good role players and draft picks till 2016. Its basically a way of tanking, except with players who have lost some momentum rather than just scrubs. People just don't get it because its the Lakers,the franchise that hasn't went through the rebuild through draft like ever.

The Kobe kinda makes sense now. Pay him while he has to go through lottery team, especially when both FO and Kobe himself wants to retire a Laker.

So realistically who are we going to sign between now and 2016 that will make this team attractive to Durant since he's the big prize in 2016. We'd have to offer a team that's better than what he has now.

[Hey Yo]

this is confirmed

lakers fully healthy could be ok. they should run this offense

PG Lin/Marshall/Nash
SG Kobe/Clarksson
SF Young/
PF Boozer/Randle
C Hill/Sacre

:confusedshrug: meh... looks good to me

not great.. but good

they should dump nash for a backup small forward and theyre a possible 7-8th seed
Why would you want Boozer? He's a quitter and a liar. Ask the Cavs.

[alanLA92]

So realistically who are we going to sign between now and 2016 that will make this team attractive to Durant since he's the big prize in 2016. We'd have to offer a team that's better than what he has now.

The cap space we will have in two years will be enough to get a team around Durant. If Randle develops well, there's a teammate for him to play around. Plus if we bomb next year,there is a chance to get #1 in the draft. Can the Lakers strike out on Durant? Yup, but they don't have a choice other than shed contracts and get a team on the floor for'14-'15.

[longtime lurker]

The cap space we will have in two years will be enough to get a team around Durant. If Randle develops well, there's a teammate for him to play around. Plus if we bomb next year,there is a chance to get #1 in the draft. Can the Lakers strike out on Durant? Yup, but they don't have a choice other than shed contracts and get a team on the floor for'14-'15.

Wrong. Cap space doesn't win games. The team needs to already be an established playoff team if we hope to attract even mid level free agents, never mind Durant. No one has yet to give me an example of a free agent taking less money to play with a team that's worse than the one he left. Why? Because it NEVER happens. There won't be anymore superfriends team ups in the NBA. Playing with Randle and Nick Young won't entice anyone. Kobe, Randle and Gasol wasn't enough to entice Melo to come here. You think we're the first team to ever bank of capspace and lottery picks to convince a superstar to sign? Face it the Laker's plan is dogshit unless they get absolutely lucky and grab another superstar in the next 2 years.

[Rameek]

Lakers has to field some kind of team and they need players. Boozer would be motivated to get money when he becomes a FA.

[longtime lurker]

Lakers has to field some kind of team and they need players. Boozer would be motivated to get money when he becomes a FA.

Except the Lakers won't be getting Boozer after offering Hill and Swaggy contracts. Womp womp womp

[alanLA92]

Wrong. Cap space doesn't win games. The team needs to already be an established playoff team if we hope to attract even mid level free agents, never mind Durant. No one has yet to give me an example of a free agent taking less money to play with a team that's worse than the one he left. Why? Because it NEVER happens. There won't be anymore superfriends team ups in the NBA. Playing with Randle and Nick Young won't entice anyone. Kobe, Randle and Gasol wasn't enough to entice Melo to come here. You think we're the first team to ever bank of capspace and lottery picks to convince a superstar to sign? Face it the Laker's plan is dogshit unless they get absolutely lucky and grab another superstar in the next 2 years.

Never said the plan was great, but its really the only option for them since they can't contend for the next two years.