Carmelo Anthony - officially the most disappointing player ever?

[Connor B]

So this guy spends a year complaining that he can't win and then passes up a very, very good opportunity with the Chicago Bulls in order to take more $$ with the same team with which he couldn't win ad hides behind Phil Jackson's future plans to make us believe he actually thinks he is in a position to win.

Carmelo sold out. He will retire with his greatest achievement being a scoring title and some first team all NBAs. One of the most disappointing players ever given his potential - crazy athletic, amazing scorer, but he has never made an effort to make his game more all-around.

Sorry New York. You will never when a chip with this guy as your best player.

[JohnFreeman]

Maybe he realises this and decided to take the money?

[Meticode]

In Phil We Trust

[Sarcastic]

As if he would win with Chicago? :lol

That team has never won a thing without Jordan, and won't for a long, long time.

[stalkerforlife]

Didn't ring chase.

Alpha.

[BlazerRed]

Career loser. Dude doesn't even care anymore, just getting paid.

[SpecialQue]

As if he would win with Chicago? :lol

That team has never won a thing without Jordan, and won't for a long, long time.

The Bulls got to the playoffs without their best player. The Knicks couldn't even sneak in with their best player consistently putting up good numbers. Yes, Melo in Chicago would absolutely have been a contender. The current version of the Heat will have a better record than the Knicks this upcoming season, that's how little faith I have in that team.

[red1]

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I'm dissappointed that he resigned with the knicks. At this rate this is what he will retire with. Not exactly what one would call a career well-spent


Didn't ring chase.

Alpha.
You are the ultimate clown

[russwest0]

Apparently his camp decided Knicks were best fit because they offered the most money and because Melo could always request a trade anyways

[red1]

The Bulls got to the playoffs without their best player. The Knicks couldn't even sneak in with their best player consistently putting up good numbers. Yes, Melo in Chicago would absolutely have been a contender. The current version of the Heat will have a better record than the Knicks this upcoming season, that's how little faith I have in that team.
exactly. knicks are a garbage franchise and even phil won't be able to change that for the next few years

[Le Shaqtus]

Melo on the Bulls would have been such a dirty team in 2k15 :(

[Sarcastic]

The Bulls got to the playoffs without their best player. The Knicks couldn't even sneak in with their best player consistently putting up good numbers. Yes, Melo in Chicago would absolutely have been a contender. The current version of the Heat will have a better record than the Knicks this upcoming season, that's how little faith I have in that team.


The Bulls still have 3 more years invested in Derrick Rose's knees. Melo just spent the past 3 years watching the Knicks not be able to make moves because of Amar'e's contract and knees.

Do you think he really wants to gamble the next 3 years on Derrick Rose's knees taking up 1/3 of the team's cap space?

:biggums:

[SpecialQue]

The Bulls still have 3 more years invested in Derrick Rose's knees. Melo just spent the past 3 years watching the Knicks not be able to make moves because of Amar'e's contract and knees.

Do you think he really wants to gamble the next 3 years on Derrick Rose's knees taking up 1/3 of the team's cap space?

:biggums:

Rose is a non-factor. Melo on that team without Rose would still be a threat in the east. Honestly I keep forgetting that Rose is a player in the NBA.

[Cosmonaut]

Do you think he really wants to gamble the next 3 years on Derrick Rose's knees taking up 1/3 of the team's cap space?

:biggums:

It was either gamble with roses knees, gamble with Hardens defense, or gamble on the Knicks.

Seriously the Knicks can't be that much better than roses knees or Hardens defense.

[NuggetsFan]

Career loser.

I've never understood this one. Won a NCAA championship in his one college season. Made the playoffs every year except this one. He had a season where 50 wins was needed just to get the 8th seed in the West.

Lakers x 2, Minny, S.A x2 , Pacers, Miami. 7 out of his 10 years in the league he's got knocked out by the team that's went to the conference finals off the top of my head. Celtics, Clippers, Utah are the only years it never happened. S.A/L.A/Heat are championship teams. Minnesota was his rookie season and was the year KG went crazy. Pacers I guess you could argue but look at there rosters. He played like shit in alot of those series but still very few players would have changed the outcome.

Melo's an easy player to rag on no need to buy into this made up story that Melo's this super unsuccessful NBA player. If you give him one of the best rosters he can compete. Much like alot of NBA players he's not going to carry you to the promise land. Swap Melo for most players and there fate is the exact same.

[Sarcastic]

It was either gamble with roses knees, gamble with Hardens defense, or gamble on the Knicks.

Seriously the Knicks can't be that much better than roses knees or Hardens defense.


I would take my chances with Phil Jackson over shoddy knees, or a bad beard/defense.

[SouBeachTalents]

Is he honestly THAT much more disappointing than other players who never won like McGrady, Webber, VC, etc.?

[Cosmonaut]

I would take my chances with Phil Jackson over shoddy knees, or a bad beard/defense.

Realistically what can Phil do with that roster? Melo isn't getting any younger and perhaps by the 3rd or 4th year in to that contract maybe the Knicks start to get somewhere.

[BlazerRed]

I've never understood this one. Won a NCAA championship in his one college season. Made the playoffs every year except this one. He had a season where 50 wins was needed just to get the 8th seed in the West.

Lakers x 2, Minny, S.A x2 , Pacers, Miami. 7 out of his 10 years in the league he's got knocked out by the team that's went to the conference finals off the top of my head. Celtics, Clippers, Utah are the only years it never happened. S.A/L.A/Heat are championship teams. Minnesota was his rookie season and was the year KG went crazy. Pacers I guess you could argue but look at there rosters. He played like shit in alot of those series but still very few players would have changed the outcome.

Melo's an easy player to rag on no need to buy into this made up story that Melo's this super unsuccessful NBA player. If you give him one of the best rosters he can compete. Much like alot of NBA players he's not going to carry you to the promise land. Swap Melo for most players and there fate is the exact same.
This is the whole thing.. he had the opportunity to join a real team this off-season and what does he do? Take the money.

[SpecialQue]

Is he honestly THAT much more disappointing than other players who never won like McGrady, Webber, VC, etc.?

Not at all, but as a basketball fan I'm really annoyed that he didn't go to the Bulls. He would have fit in perfectly.

[NuggetsFan]

This is the whole thing.. he had the opportunity to join a real team this off-season and what does he do? Take the money.

Oh agreed. Granted it far more difficult to pass up on that money than people on msgboard let on. I said all along I thought he'd stay with NY and just like when he wanted out of Denver I thought it had little to do with basketball reasons from a competitive standpoint. Like I said easy player to rag on.

The whole career loser thing that gets tossed around is pretty unfair tho. There's tons of superstars who've done less with easier circumstances. People just seem to love to slap that label on Melo. He's been out of the 1st round twice now, conference finals once. Faced championship teams like crazy and came up short like most would.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

This is the whole thing.. he had the opportunity to join a real team this off-season and what does he do? Take the money.

The real question is...would you pay $50 million for a ring? Because thats essentially what he would be doing

$73 million vs $123 million

The difference is to great to justify. The difference between the two contracts could alone have not only his children, but his childrens children living comfortably for their entire lives.

[Sarcastic]

Realistically what can Phil do with that roster? Melo isn't getting any younger and perhaps by the 3rd or 4th year in to that contract maybe the Knicks start to get somewhere.


Pretty much everyone is gone after 2015. I don't know what Phil can do with the roster, but I would trust the crust off his toe nail clippings more than I would you about the game of basketball.

[andremiller07]

I've never understood this one. Won a NCAA championship in his one college season. Made the playoffs every year except this one. He had a season where 50 wins was needed just to get the 8th seed in the West.

Lakers x 2, Minny, S.A x2 , Pacers, Miami. 7 out of his 10 years in the league he's got knocked out by the team that's went to the conference finals off the top of my head. Celtics, Clippers, Utah are the only years it never happened. S.A/L.A/Heat are championship teams. Minnesota was his rookie season and was the year KG went crazy. Pacers I guess you could argue but look at there rosters. He played like shit in alot of those series but still very few players would have changed the outcome.

Melo's an easy player to rag on no need to buy into this made up story that Melo's this super unsuccessful NBA player. If you give him one of the best rosters he can compete. Much like alot of NBA players he's not going to carry you to the promise land. Swap Melo for most players and there fate is the exact same.
This the whole career loser crap is complete bs

[Sarcastic]

The real question is...would you pay $50 million for a ring? Because thats essentially what he would be doing

$73 million vs $123 million

The difference is to great to justify. The difference between the two contracts could alone have not only his children, but his childrens children living comfortably for their entire lives.

A ring in Chicago is FAR FAR from guaranteed. He'd give up $50 million for a slightly better chance.

[iamgine]

He gets the contract first, if things doesn't work out he can ask to be traded.

It's smart.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Didn't ring chase.

Alpha.

Nah my definition of alpha is based on championships and he doesn't have one so he's still beta. Being alpha is ringchasing because it means ur manly enough to withstand the pressure from shit like the decision

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Nah my definition of alpha is based on championships and he doesn't have one so he's still beta. Being alpha is ringchasing because it means ur manly enough to withstand the pressure from shit like the decision

Real men dont follow other men, they blaze their own trail

[GimmeThat]

if he isn't going to win as the first option.
nothing to say he will forever be the first option even if he stays with the Knicks.

new players come into the league, younger players develope etc.

he could be the 2nd/3rd option on a championship team WITH the Knicks.

all while getting paid by an amount that however you want to look at it.



he'd face some harsh criticism from his family/friends for passing it up.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Real men dont follow other men, they blaze their own trail

Why not? Everyone is following other men in learning how to play basketball

[RoundMoundOfReb]

he's not a bird/kobe/magic/lebron/drj level player...he's more like 'nique level and that's about what his accomplishments will reflect once he's done

[MellowYellow]

Any success at all in NY is more commendable than ring chasing somewhere else. Even Chicago isn't a guarantee, and D-rose has 3 more years on his contract so if he doesn't work out then he has another Amare on his hands taking up 20m a year for nothing. Melo gets to be the king of NY and Phil Jackson has a blank canvas to put whatever he wants around Melo next year.

[hawksdogsbraves]

There's no doubt he's had a disappointing career. We all though he would be an MVP type guy who was competing for championships year in and year out, but it's just not been the case.

Hopefully he'll turn the Knicks around, I'm not holding my breath though.

[Rameek]

IT's not Melo's fault he didnt win in NY. Its the FO that was the blame. EVen though, I am not the biggest Melo supporter he isnt the real reason NY didnt win. Its the FO that had 3 gm's and 2 HC's without securing sufficient talent!

He was suppose to sacrifice the money security to go the Bulls who are cheap and have 2 of their best players injury prone in Rose and Noah? Too big of a risk IMHO.

[Meticode]

In Phil We Trust

[The-Legend-24]

Why anybody would want to play for a shit franchise like the knicks is beyond me.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Why anybody would want to play for a shit franchise like the knicks is beyond me.

$$$

[GimmeThat]

There's no doubt he's had a disappointing career. We all though he would be an MVP type guy who was competing for championships year in and year out, but it's just not been the case.

Hopefully he'll turn the Knicks around, I'm not holding my breath though.

I thought he's been consistent.

I don't think he's had a "break out" season besides when that Denver squad advanced to the WCF.

I guess we can say he was VERY NBA ready when he entered into the league compared to most 19 year olds.

I think after signing this very next contract, he's probably on the veteran end of the whole league. and not many veterans post up numbers like that. as most of them are on their way out.

[smoovegittar]

exactly. knicks are a garbage franchise and even phil won't be able to change that for the next few years
You and all the other swine are gonna eat these words, dickhead. As if the Raps are gonna go all the way. Freakin' Troll, nothing more.

Knicks will make noise this season, and be contending the next. Why don't you get on some LeBron shit.

[smoovegittar]

Why anybody would want to play for a shit franchise like the knicks is beyond me.
Well, you know jack shit about basketball, so no surprise here...

[step_back]

As if he would win with Chicago? :lol

That team has never won a thing without Jordan, and won't for a long, long time.

Pot, Kettle, Black.

Knicks have been the joke of the NBA for years now and haven't won a chip in 41 years:roll:

You won't be winning anything for a while too.

[smoovegittar]

Pot, Kettle, Black.

Knicks have been the joke of the NBA for years now and haven't won a chip in 41 years:roll:

You won't be winning anything for a while too.
No one was laughing at the Knicks 2 years ago. Were you watching? Doubt it.

[step_back]

No one was laughing at the Knicks 2 years ago. Were you watching? Doubt it.

#2 seed in the East and losing in the semi finals is brag worthy now? :lol Shows you how low your expectations are.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Pretty much everyone is gone after 2015. I don't know what Phil can do with the roster, but I would trust the crust off his toe nail clippings more than I would you about the game of basketball.

:lol

[Richesly]

No one wants to mention how Melo got robbed Rookie of the Year by the media LeBron stans?

[FLDFSU]

Not at all, but as a basketball fan I'm really annoyed that he didn't go to the Bulls. He would have fit in perfectly.

:no: That is called ring chasing and that is out of the question.

[Richesly]

:no: That is called ring chasing and that is out of the question.


Carmelo is definitely alpha, but the true alpha is Joe Johnson. Regular allstar that got the full max. Makin 23m this year and 24m the next. Who can beat that?

Rashard Lewis maybe...

[smoovegittar]

#2 seed in the East and losing in the semi finals is brag worthy now? :lol Shows you how low your expectations are.


Misconstruing - typical troll move. Who's bragging, dipshit? Re-read my comment if you want any further considerations. :facepalm


... on second thought, screw it. You're not worth the time, really...

[step_back]

Misconstruing - typical troll move. Who's bragging, dipshit? Re-read my comment if you want any further considerations. :facepalm


... on second thought, screw it. You're not worth the time, really...

I'm not trolling or misconstruing.

If you can't be bothered to read my original post and see the context of my reply to a knick fan who said "As if he would win with Chicago? That team has never won a thing without Jordan, and won't for a long, long time". then that is your lack of comprehension or pure laziness, probably both. Fact is you were a #2 seed and got bounced in the east semi finals. Knick fans really have no leg to stand on calling out other teams. It's typical arrogance from your fan base (Not all)

You said no one was laughing at the Knicks two years ago, fact is people were. Because it was the same old Knick story. All the hype and no results.

Feel free to bitch out of replying now that I put you in your place. I won't hold it against you.

[Jasper]

MELO BACK TO KNICKS


ITS ALL ABOUT GOING HOME

[bagelred]

So this guy spends a year complaining that he can't win and then passes up a very, very good opportunity with the Chicago Bulls in order to take more $$ with the same team with which he couldn't win ad hides behind Phil Jackson's future plans to make us believe he actually thinks he is in a position to win.

Carmelo sold out. He will retire with his greatest achievement being a scoring title and some first team all NBAs. One of the most disappointing players ever given his potential - crazy athletic, amazing scorer, but he has never made an effort to make his game more all-around.

Sorry New York. You will never when a chip with this guy as your best player.

Or maybe he decided to be loyal to a city and fanbase he loved, right? If another franchise player stayed with their team, isn't that what you'd be saying? Oh wait, it's Melo...he's just...uh...greedy and bad and stuff.......