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KingPush
07-13-2014, 06:19 PM
Took the spurs to 7 games last season and they got much better this year. Adding Parsons and Chandler :applause:

Time for Lebron to get his revenge with his home town team

SouBeachTalents
07-13-2014, 06:19 PM
No

navy
07-13-2014, 06:20 PM
The Cavs and Mavs wont make it.

Droid101
07-13-2014, 06:21 PM
Meh. Anyone but bran is fine by me

Inferno
07-13-2014, 06:22 PM
Felton - ?
Ellis - ?
Parsons - Marion
Dirk - Wright
Chandler - ?

Fill it in. But good team

Inferno
07-13-2014, 06:23 PM
Meh. Anyone but bran is fine by me

Why do you hate Bran so much? :coleman:

bagelred
07-13-2014, 06:24 PM
Raymon Felton :roll: omg stop it.:roll: can't breathe....:roll: :roll:

Haymaker
07-13-2014, 06:26 PM
Raymond Faton will make sure they lose early.

KingPush
07-13-2014, 06:27 PM
:biggums:
Forgot about Felton.


Nevermind Spurs repeating

no pun intended
07-13-2014, 06:28 PM
Felton - ?
Ellis - ?
Parsons - Marion
Dirk - Wright
Chandler - ?

Fill it in. But good team
You forgot Devin Harris, who was extremely impressive in their last playoffs. Hopefully he can continue to play at that level this upcoming year.

Droid101
07-13-2014, 06:35 PM
Why do you hate Bran so much? :coleman:
Because Boring. Same guy in the finals every year is ****ing tedious. Let's get some new teams in there this year.

J Shuttlesworth
07-13-2014, 06:37 PM
Because Boring. Same guy in the finals every year is ****ing tedious. Let's get some new teams in there this year.
Come on the Cavs in the finals would be a completely different scenario than the Heat in the finals the last 4 years.

I bet you weren't complaining when Kobe/Shaq made the finals all those times :coleman:

Duggrr
07-13-2014, 06:40 PM
I'm thinking 5th seed or so. Predicting how far they go isn't of much use, because there are about 9 teams in the West capable of going to the 2nd round and 5 or so to the WCF.

Inferno
07-13-2014, 06:40 PM
Because Boring. Same guy in the finals every year is ****ing tedious. Let's get some new teams in there this year.

Seeing Kyrie and Wiggins in the finals would be nice though. But you're right, Bulls vs Warriors finals :banana: :rockon:

kentatm
07-13-2014, 06:40 PM
Fat Felton aint gonna be the starting PG. Its going to be Devin Harris all the way.

J Shuttlesworth
07-13-2014, 06:42 PM
Seeing Kyrie and Wiggins in the finals would be nice though. But you're right, Bulls vs Warriors finals :banana: :rockon:
I would jizz my pants if the Warriors were in the finals :bowdown:

thefatmiral
07-13-2014, 06:47 PM
They're going to miss Carter

Droid101
07-13-2014, 06:47 PM
Seeing Kyrie and Wiggins in the finals would be nice though. But you're right, Bulls vs Warriors finals :banana: :rockon:
They're too green for the Finals. Meh.

Bulls vs. Warriors I accept. Pau vs. Bogut on the block? Gimmie!

Cocaine80s
07-13-2014, 06:48 PM
They're too green for the Finals. Meh.

Bulls vs. Warriors I accept. Pau vs. Bogut on the block? Gimmie!
that would be so ****ing boring

Droid101
07-13-2014, 06:50 PM
that would be so ****ing boring
So... Timberwolves then? Lavine FMVP? :roll:

k

Cocaine80s
07-13-2014, 06:51 PM
So... Timberwolves then? Lavine FMVP? :roll:

k
Twolves vs Cavs tbh

Milbuck
07-13-2014, 06:51 PM
that would be so ****ing boring
If the Bulls make the finals, Rose would be 100%. Which begs the question, how the **** would Rose vs Curry be boring?

DMAVS41
07-13-2014, 06:51 PM
Fat Felton aint gonna be the starting PG. Its going to be Devin Harris all the way.

This.

Do you think Ledo could play a bit next year?

DirkNowitzki41
07-13-2014, 06:52 PM
ellis-dirk-parsons = championship :rockon:

Cocaine80s
07-13-2014, 06:53 PM
If the Bulls make the finals, Rose would be 100%. Which begs the question, how the **** would Rose vs Curry be boring?
Did you watch clippers vs warriors this year?

Curry was boring as shit to watch just chucking up 3s once the clippers D got after him. Also Rose wouldnt be 100%, it would take more than a whole season for him to reach his 2011 level

SupermanOnSteroids
07-13-2014, 06:57 PM
If the Mavs can get Mo Williams with the exception, that team would definitely be much improved over last year. I'm thinking anywhere from 6th to the 4th seed in the west. but no finals. OKC and Spurs are just too good.

Rocketswin2013
07-13-2014, 06:58 PM
Did you watch clippers vs warriors this year?

Curry was boring as shit to watch just chucking up 3s once the clippers D got after him. Also Rose wouldnt be 100%, it would take more than a whole season for him to reach his 2011 level
CP3 punked Curry. Made him hide on Barnes and then was forced to play off ball because Cp3 kept picking his pocket.

kentatm
07-13-2014, 06:58 PM
This.

Do you think Ledo could play a bit next year?


ehh... if there are injuries maybe.

DMAVS41
07-13-2014, 07:03 PM
ehh... if there are injuries maybe.

Yea, that is how I feel as well...even if we get Mo...we just have no size whatsoever at either guard position.

Would be really nice if Ledo somehow got ready to play 15 minutes a game.

kentatm
07-13-2014, 07:05 PM
Yea, that is how I feel as well...even if we get Mo...we just have no size whatsoever at either guard position.

Would be really nice if Ledo somehow got ready to play 15 minutes a game.


size is a bit overrated TBH

remember, the Mavs won a title using a 3 guard lineup of JJB/Terry/Kidd quite a bit that season.

SupermanOnSteroids
07-13-2014, 07:10 PM
hope the mavs fans can forget about ledo for a while. he's a good project player but no where near NBA ready. if i were donnie, i'd keep him at DLeague for the full year and let him get as much PT as possible. There's no place for him on a team in the win now mode. hopefully he can be somewhat serviceable by the end of next year.

russwest0
07-13-2014, 07:12 PM
Meh. Anyone but bran is fine by me

Not likely to happen unless Rose can stay healthy. The East is just too weak.

DMAVS41
07-13-2014, 07:13 PM
size is a bit overrated TBH

remember, the Mavs won a title using a 3 guard lineup of JJB/Terry/Kidd quite a bit that season.

It certainly can be and it's not a deal breaker, but Kidd adds a lot of size actually.

He could guard all the way to small forward and he rebounds really well also.

Having a guy like that was key for our team in 11 in my opinion.

bagelred
07-13-2014, 07:21 PM
Felton and Ellis trying to defend. :roll: omg :roll: ......i can't....i can't breathe..:roll: :roll:

creepingdeath
07-13-2014, 07:22 PM
Felton and Ellis trying to defend. :roll: omg :roll: ......i can't....i can't breathe..:roll: :roll:
So how about those Knicks, mate?

DMAVS41
07-13-2014, 07:22 PM
Felton and Ellis trying to defend. :roll: omg :roll: ......i can't....i can't breathe..:roll: :roll:

Felton is likely going to be our 4th guard dude.

kentatm
07-13-2014, 07:24 PM
It certainly can be and it's not a deal breaker, but Kidd adds a lot of size actually.

He could guard all the way to small forward and he rebounds really well also.

Having a guy like that was key for our team in 11 in my opinion.


he was still only 6'4 though.

just gotta get guys who work well together.

bagelred
07-13-2014, 07:27 PM
So how about those Knicks, mate?

feeling good. we got our franchise player back and we got a great PG in Calderon and got rid of some dead weight in Chandler and Felton.

Next year, we'll have Marc Gasol and on our way to a championship. :rockon:

Feeling good in the neighborhood. :pimp:

DMAVS41
07-13-2014, 07:27 PM
he was still only 6'4 though.

just gotta get guys who work well together.

I know, but that is big...and we all know Kidd plays way bigger than his size.

It's going to be hard to work together with Harris, Ellis, Mo (assuming he signs), and Felton....that is just super small and 3 of the four are net negative defenders.

I'm right there with you, but it's going to be brutal at times...

Cocaine80s
07-13-2014, 07:28 PM
Wasnt there some pg on the Mavs that was pretty decent. His name was like Larking or something like that?

SupermanOnSteroids
07-13-2014, 07:46 PM
Wasnt there some pg on the Mavs that was pretty decent. His name was like Larking or something like that?
in NY now for Chandler trade. Nice prospect JJ Barea clone.

kentatm
07-13-2014, 07:51 PM
I know, but that is big...and we all know Kidd plays way bigger than his size.


for PG? yea.

for a SG. slightly shorter than what most teams try to get.

for a SF? yea man. dats small.



It's going to be hard to work together with Harris, Ellis, Mo (assuming he signs), and Felton....that is just super small and 3 of the four are net negative defenders.

I'm right there with you, but it's going to be brutal at times...

I've lit a candle. Lord baby Jebus will rid us of Felton's fat.

UK2K
07-13-2014, 07:54 PM
:lol

K....

Darius
07-13-2014, 09:22 PM
Can some1 update on why no one is blinking an eye at a 3&D guy (without top level D) like Parsons being paid $15m/year?

Locked_Up_Tonight
07-13-2014, 09:32 PM
Can some1 update on why no one is blinking an eye at a 3&D guy (without top level D) like Parsons being paid $15m/year?

Because Dirk took a pay cut and signed for 10 mil a year. So therefore Parsons + Dirk cost 25 mil.

Parsons has a player option after year 2. Dirk has a player option after year 2.

DMAVS41
07-13-2014, 09:35 PM
for PG? yea.

for a SG. slightly shorter than what most teams try to get.

for a SF? yea man. dats small.


I've lit a candle. Lord baby Jebus will rid us of Felton's fat.

What? Kidd didn't play SF...he played PG. And he had good height and weight and an ability to guard pg, sg, and sf.

That amount of versatility defensively really mattered for us.

It's not just about size, it's how big a player can play...and Kidd is one of the best ever for that actually.

So comparing Kidd, Terry, Barea...to Felton, Ellis, Harris, and Mo (if he comes)...is really not an apt comparison at all.

I actually like Felton on our team. I just want him to play the role that Barea played. in that role I think he'll be great. If we ask him to play as our starter or even first guard off the bench...i don't think it works nearly as well.

kentatm
07-13-2014, 09:46 PM
What? Kidd didn't play SF...he played PG. And he had good height and weight and an ability to guard pg, sg, and sf.

That amount of versatility defensively really mattered for us.

It's not just about size, it's how big a player can play...and Kidd is one of the best ever for that actually.

So comparing Kidd, Terry, Barea...to Felton, Ellis, Harris, and Mo (if he comes)...is really not an apt comparison at all.


uh no duh he didnt play "SF"

but he was still the biggest player of the 3 guards in the 3G lineup. JJB is like 5'10 and JET is 6'0.

size wise, Kidd was the SF in those 3G lineups and at 6'4 he is tiny for that.

they mostly went zone for those lineups anyway b/c Kidd could no longer stay in front of anyone that was able to put it on the floor and drive.

again, the only truly important thing when going to those lineups is how well everyone works together.




I actually like Felton on our team. I just want him to play the role that Barea played. in that role I think he'll be great. If we ask him to play as our starter or even first guard off the bench...i don't think it works nearly as well.

since when can Felton penetrate to the hoop the way JJB can?

lakerfreak
07-13-2014, 09:50 PM
Raymon Felton :roll: omg stop it.:roll: can't breathe....:roll: :roll:

He's "still elite" :)

Locked_Up_Tonight
07-13-2014, 10:43 PM
since when can Felton penetrate to the hoop the way JJB can?

Tell him it is the buffet line and watch him get inside and to the front of the rim!

gasolina
07-13-2014, 11:39 PM
size is a bit overrated TBH

remember, the Mavs won a title using a 3 guard lineup of JJB/Terry/Kidd quite a bit that season.
Mavs also had Marion and Stevenson. Marion was excellent and Stevenson was another body you could throw at Wade.

Hope the Mavs get someone useful for the TE, bench still looking mighty bare

Collie
07-14-2014, 12:02 AM
Depends on how much Dirk has left. He looked pretty gassed against the Spurs last year, and even if they somehow miraculously pulled it off, I think they'd fall in the later rounds.

SupermanOnSteroids
07-14-2014, 12:16 AM
Depends on how much Dirk has left. He looked pretty gassed against the Spurs last year, and even if they somehow miraculously pulled it off, I think they'd fall in the later rounds.
I don't think Dirk is the same as last year next year. IMO Dirk/Chandler/Ellis are options 1a/1b/1c on the Mavs next year.

DMAVS41
07-14-2014, 12:28 AM
uh no duh he didnt play "SF"

but he was still the biggest player of the 3 guards in the 3G lineup. JJB is like 5'10 and JET is 6'0.

size wise, Kidd was the SF in those 3G lineups and at 6'4 he is tiny for that.

they mostly went zone for those lineups anyway b/c Kidd could no longer stay in front of anyone that was able to put it on the floor and drive.

again, the only truly important thing when going to those lineups is how well everyone works together.




since when can Felton penetrate to the hoop the way JJB can?



You are really under-rating the value of Kidd individually back then defensively. We don't have anyone close to his impact defensively at guard. We also don't have anyone close to Stevenson either.

Comparing the 11 guard lineup to the 15 guard lineup is not an apt comparison at all and you know it...doesn't matter how well we work together. It's just different.

I'm not saying it has no ability to work, but it's not close to ideal or close to 11.


I think you'll be surprised at what Felton can do next year on the Mavs. We'll find out soon enough. Also, I didn't mean to say he plays exactly like Barea. I meant it in a comparison more of a guard playing between 12 and 20 minutes per game depending on the matchups and how they were going.

If Barea sucked...didn't really hurt us because he wasn't truly key to our team in that we needed him out there 25 plus minutes a game each night. I think Felton would see a similar impact if he was used in a similar type role...not as the 1st or 2nd guard. Which is why getting someone like Mo would be nice obviously.

We'll see...

SupermanOnSteroids
07-14-2014, 12:32 AM
You are really under-rating the value of Kidd individually back then defensively. We don't have anyone close to his impact defensively at guard. We also don't have anyone close to Stevenson either.

Comparing the 11 guard lineup to the 15 guard lineup is not an apt comparison at all and you know it...doesn't matter how well we work together. It's just different.

I'm not saying it has no ability to work, but it's not close to ideal or close to 11.


I think you'll be surprised at what Felton can do next year on the Mavs. We'll find out soon enough. Also, I didn't mean to say he plays exactly like Barea. I meant it in a comparison more of a guard playing between 12 and 20 minutes per game depending on the matchups and how they were going.

If Barea sucked...didn't really hurt us because he wasn't truly key to our team in that we needed him out there 25 plus minutes a game each night. I think Felton would see a similar impact if he was used in a similar type role...not as the 1st or 2nd guard. Which is why getting someone like Mo would be nice obviously.

We'll see...

dude '11 team was an anomaly. they don't do as good any other year other than their given year. i think cuban realized that and thats why decided to blow up that team. this year's team is better than last year's team and thats what i'm looking for. are they a championship team, no. but if lucky with the seeding, might make it to the WCF. next year more cap space, another player, better team. lets see what happens. but this year, we're an also ran.