Do people understand just how bad the Lakers are going to be next year....

[Im so nba'd out]

They may honestly be the worst team in the league next year.At least we can all watch kobe chase the scoring title i just hope they don't have a lot of national tv games

http://www.menudobol.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Lakers-No-One-500x500.jpg

man they are really going to be bad....
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/George-Costanza-Prancing-Through-Park.gif

[Clyde]

who knows?

Vegas had last year Suns being the worst in the league.

How'd that work out?

There a reason they play the games you know.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Who tf expected that team though? We ain't gon be nearly as bad as Philly. Randle and Kobe gonna take us to the playoffs, along with Lance when he finally signs :D

[disel]

Lin is a dumbass at running the point.He Is terrible and they know it. They are in tank mode.His salary or expiere and the 1st rounder was the real value to the Lakers.It will be entertaining watching Kobe destroy him when he makes his usuall dumbass decisions with the ball.

[kennethgriffin]

kobe can take bums and quitters to the playoffs

he's done it 4 times

06
07
12 - that team sucked top to bottom after kobe. gasol was sh*t
13 - ditto

why not one more time?

[Hey Yo]

Lin is a dumbass at running the point.He Is terrible and they know it. They are in tank mode.His salary or expiere and the 1st rounder was the real value to the Lakers.It will be entertaining watching Kobe destroy him when he makes his usuall dumbass decisions with the ball.
If that were the case, they would have never signed "Swaggy P" to that awful 4yr deal.

[disel]

kobe can take bums and quitters to the playoffs

he's done it 3 times

06
07
13

why not one more time?
Even kobe has limits. look at his supporting cast. When nick young Is you're next best player you got a few problems.

[disel]

If that were the case, they would have never signed "Swaggy P" to that awful 4yr deal.
Their plan is next seasons free agents that will come on the market . Kevin Love in particular.

[GimmeThat]

well, that's a lot of games for people to fill up their bucket list at a reasonable price!

[Beastmode88]

kobe can take bums and quitters to the playoffs

he's done it 4 times

06
07
12 - that team sucked top to bottom after kobe. gasol was sh*t
13 - ditto

why not one more time?

whats the point? Kobes on his last legs and he has no help. even if he makes it to the playoffs (which he won't cause the west is stacked as fcuk),you think kobe is in his prime? he just came off 2 injuries. he's done. watch management tell kobe to tank as his career ends. :roll: :roll: rip kobe + laker nation have fun in the lottery the next 2-3 years.

[kennethgriffin]

Even kobe has limits. look at his supporting cast. When nick young Is you're next best player you got problem.

in 2013 kobes 2nd best player was

( not half a**'d howard/injured letting people dunk on him )

( not half a**'d gasol/injured )

( not always injured. not playing nash )

( not metta s*cking sh*t finished peace )


but ......... infact......... it was earl f*cking clark. had the most hustle and positive impact out of anyone not named kobe

[disel]

in 2013 kobes 2nd best player was

( not half a**'d howard/injured letting people dunk on him )

( not half a**'d gasol/injured )

( not always injured. not playing nash )

( not metta s*cking sh*t finished peace )


but ......... infact......... it was earl f*cking clark. had the most hustle and positive impact out of anyone not named kobe
Howard and gasol even half assing it are far superior to anything he currently has.They are in tank mode for the 2015 free agent market.

[Droid101]

The Lakers do not own their pick so there is no incentive to lose. Every loss just makes the Suns better the following season.

[kennethgriffin]

Howard and gasol even half assing it are far superior to anything he currently has.They are in tank mode for the 2015 free agent market.

buss might be in tank mode. but kobe isnt

they tried tanking before and kobe wouldnt let them. the only times it works is when kobe is injured

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besides... they don't even own their draft pick so why bother trying to lose LOL

[Kidbasketball20]

WTF are you talking about SMH.


Jeremy Lin is going to be a HUGE part of why they make the playoffs this season. They can't be any worse than the Dwight-Mare saga, especially because Lin FORCES TEAM BASKETBALL

[Beastmode88]

buss might be in tank mode. but kobe isnt

they tried tanking before and kobe wouldnt let them. the only times it works is when kobe is injured

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besides... they don't even own their draft pick so why bother trying to lose LOL

so you're saying kobe should go down stat padding and add to his inefficiency? :applause:

[disel]

WTF are you talking about SMH.


Jeremy Lin is going to be a HUGE part of why they make the playoffs this season. They can't be any worse than the Dwight-Mare saga, especially because Lin FORCES TEAM BASKETBALL
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[HannibalKid]

The Lakers do not own their pick so there is no incentive to lose. Every loss just makes the Suns better the following season.

I believe it's top 5 protected

[Droid101]

I believe it's top 5 protected
Yeah, and with Kobe out all season, the Lakers still didn't have the 5th worst record. The Lakers cannot tank this year.

[Trollsmasher]

wtf is Oden doing in that pic?:biggums:

[HannibalKid]

Yeah, and with Kobe out all season, the Lakers still didn't have the 5th worst record. The Lakers cannot tank this year.

I blame D'Antoni and Young. They won't purposely tAnk But they will be bottom 10 for sure

[KungFuJoe]

It's LA. We're always going to be a step away from contending because everyone wants to play for us.

[b0bab0i]

OP, have you been living under a rock?
Do you know how bad they were this year? 14th place of 15 in the the west.

They will be better next year than this year.

[ottooooooo]

It's LA. We're always going to be a step away from contending because everyone wants to play for us.


just like pau and melo, oh wait...

[T_L_P]

gasol was sh*t


Gasol was anything but shit. He choked a big one in the Playoffs, but he was great in the regular season -- as per, he had more Win Shares than Kobe.

Can you give me other examples of a teammate having more Win Shares than the guy who "dragged his team into the Playoffs" and was simultaneously bad? I'll wait...

Also, Bynum had a good year. Not to overstate the advanced stats, but he had a higher PER, more Win Shares and more WS/48. If Gasol and Bynum were shit, so was Kobe.

[Meticode]

The Lakers will tread water until the 2015 season. Could be the best thing for the franchise if Randle turns out to be a great player.

[KungFuJoe]

just like pau and melo, oh wait...

Melo was a blessing in disguise. He's a great offensive player, but he's not a team player, and he just isn't a "winner".

Pau helped bring two championships...he did what he was supposed to do and now he's making money elsewhere in the tail end of his career. He was one of my favorite players and he deserves whatever he gets...but he just wasn't a good fit on the Lakers anymore due to his lack of interior D.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Gasol was anything but shit. He choked a big one in the Playoffs, but he was great in the regular season -- as per, he had more Win Shares than Kobe.

Can you give me other examples of a teammate having more Win Shares than the guy who "dragged his team into the Playoffs" and was simultaneously bad? I'll wait...

Also, Bynum had a good year. Not to overstate the advanced stats, but he had a higher PER, more Win Shares and more WS/48. If Gasol and Bynum were shit, so was Kobe.


...but let me lean on them exclusively for my trash argument.

[EnoughSaid]

Why doesn't Kobe just take some games off this year? Get your groove back, clean off the rust, but don't try too hard or push yourself too far. Save yourself for a contending team.

[kennethgriffin]

Gasol was anything but shit. He choked a big one in the Playoffs, but he was great in the regular season -- as per, he had more Win Shares than Kobe.

Can you give me other examples of a teammate having more Win Shares than the guy who "dragged his team into the Playoffs" and was simultaneously bad? I'll wait...

Also, Bynum had a good year. Not to overstate the advanced stats, but he had a higher PER, more Win Shares and more WS/48. If Gasol and Bynum were shit, so was Kobe.


advanced stats favore big men because theyre nearly 100% based on efficiency. and big men take less risks.

but the real key is.. everyone who leaves kobe turns into sh*t

wheres bynum now

gasol will be a 13ppg,6rpg player on chicago

gasol without kobe on LA = empty stats and a last place record

kobe took that same lineup to the playoffs a year before

[ihatetimthomas]

Gasol was anything but shit. He choked a big one in the Playoffs, but he was great in the regular season -- as per, he had more Win Shares than Kobe.

Can you give me other examples of a teammate having more Win Shares than the guy who "dragged his team into the Playoffs" and was simultaneously bad? I'll wait...

Also, Bynum had a good year. Not to overstate the advanced stats, but he had a higher PER, more Win Shares and more WS/48. If Gasol and Bynum were shit, so was Kobe.

This is why I hate per and "advanced stats". People can and will always spin stats to pad heir arguments. Wether it's hating to defending, these stats are used to sway a argument. Which is why it might be better to watch the actual games than read data.

[Levity]

Why doesn't Kobe just take some games off this year? Get your groove back, clean off the rust, but don't try too hard or push yourself too far. Save yourself for a contending team.

thats certainly an option, but no ones seen him play, yet. reports are that hes 100%, and if so, he could damn well play every game this season. but again, those are just reports and nothing will be confirmed until the start of the season

the lakers arent done filling out their roster yet. SF is our weakest spot with C being our second weakest. if lakers were to give Marion all the SF minutes he can handle and sign okafor for a discount, the team can be in contention for a playoff spot.

[Kidbasketball20]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Sad how little you know about basketball. :roll:

Jeremy Lin will be a top tier PG next season.

[dubeta]

kobe can take bums and quitters to the playoffs

he's done it 4 times

06
07
12 - that team sucked top to bottom after kobe. gasol was sh*t
13 - ditto

why not one more time?
:roll:

2012 team with gasol and artest??
2013 was an all star dream team, nash, kobe, artest, gasol, bynum. The fact that kobe only got them the 7th seed is one of the biggest failures in nba history

[Droid101]

:roll:


2013 was an all star dream team, nash, kobe, artest, gasol, bynum. The fact that kobe only got them the 7th seed is one of the biggest failures in nba history
You don't know shit. Gasol missed a bunch of games, Dwight missed some games and was clearly never 100%. Nash missed half the season. Blake missed half the season. Jordan Hill missed the whole season. Kobe even missed a handfull of games.

You're a clown who doesn't watch games and bandwagons wherever LeBron's jock sits lately.

[dreamwarrior]

Did you see how competitive they were last year in the first half of the season? They were losing games by 4-6 points. This year they have:

SG: Kobe/Young
PF: Randle/Kelly
C: Hill/Sacre
PG: Lin/Clarkson/Marshall/Nash
SF: Henry/Johnson

[ImKobe]

:roll:

2012 team with gasol and artest??
2013 was an all star dream team, nash, kobe, artest, gasol, bynum. The fact that kobe only got them the 7th seed is one of the biggest failures in nba history

Clearly you know nothing because Bynum was traded for Howard, Nash & Pau missed 30+ games each in the regular season, thus the horrible Playoff position, Dwight Howard coming off back surgery and 8 months of no basketball related activities, Steve Blake missing about 40 games, Artest tore his meniscus, Kobe tore his achilles after being forced to play 40+ mpg at point guard because Blake, Duhon, Morris were injured. We were forced to start Robert Sacre, Chris Duhon and Devin Ebanks at times...those guys are D-leaguers.

Dream team you were saying? Did you even watch a game? Artest was done already, Pau looked slow as hell and played on a bad knee, Howard got better at the 2nd half of the season but was still brutal and cost us games by missing Fts with teams intentionally fouling him.

Kobe had one of his more efficient seasons and carried us to the Playoffs.

[ImKobe]

Did you see how competitive they were last year in the first half of the season? They were losing games by 4-6 points. This year they have:

SG: Kobe/Young
PF: Randle/Kelly
C: Hill/Sacre
PG: Lin/Clarkson/Marshall/Nash
SF: Henry/Johnson

I like Ryan Kelly a lot, he could develop into a very good player. Marshall also played great in D'Antoni's system and put up good numbers, Johnson had the best year of his career and the boy can bring it on D, Henry was balling and we started losing after he went down with a serious knee injury, Hill was very efficient but got limited minutes cause him and Pau didn't fit in that system

This team is so young outside of Kobe & Nash & has some potential if healthy.

[crisoner]

kobe can take bums and quitters to the playoffs

he's done it 4 times

06
07
12 - that team sucked top to bottom after kobe. gasol was sh*t
13 - ditto

why not one more time?

Yeah he was HEALTHY, YOUNG, and was not coming off a HUGE INJURY.

Kobe will be CHUCKING to move up on the all time scoring list etc.

[SexSymbol]

It's a great well rounded team.
One serviceable big man and one good shooter away from a top 4 in the West
i'm obv assuming that Randle is 16/8 player from the get go. Even if no, Hill can be a 18/10 guy with amazing defense

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

This is why I hate per and "advanced stats". People can and will always spin stats to pad heir arguments. Wether it's hating to defending, these stats are used to sway a argument. Which is why it might be better to watch the actual games than read data.

Opposed to saying Kobe "dragged" the Lakers into the postseason?

Sometimes advanced stats and data in general are needed for irrationality.

[Taller than CP3]

Kobe will do the unthinkable and score 101 points in a game next year, just watch.

[6 for 24]

No offense to the OP, but this post simply makes no sense.

The Lakers are now engaging year 19 of the famed "Kobe system". For those of you unfamiliar with this long process, these final stages involve eliminating all of the "dead weight" an maximizing the shot attempts for #24. It began with jettisoning Shaq way back in 2005, continued with Howard last year, and now, is finally complete with the departure of Gasol, who was proving to be a true problem with his recent ballhoggery (did you know he actually took more shots PER game than Kobe last year? What is this madness??)

By filling the team with rookies and journeymen, Kobe should easily be able to chuck 40-50 shots PER game, shattering all sorts of records just playing winning basketball. Why wouldn't you want the best player in the game taking all the shots?

Title #6 is coming for #24 and there is nothing you haters can do about it.

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

[kennethgriffin]

:roll:

2012 team with gasol and artest??
2013 was an all star dream team, nash, kobe, artest, gasol, bynum. The fact that kobe only got them the 7th seed is one of the biggest failures in nba history

artest was a year away from retirement in 2012

gasol was a shell of his former self since 2012

nash didnt play in 2013

bynums knees were never the same after 2012 and was traded for that bum howard who was injured all season


i'd rather have had smush parker the last 2 years than steve nash

[Eric Cartman]

No offense to the OP, but this post simply makes no sense.

The Lakers are now engaging year 19 of the famed "Kobe system". For those of you unfamiliar with this long process, these final stages involve eliminating all of the "dead weight" an maximizing the shot attempts for #24. It began with jettisoning Shaq way back in 2005, continued with Howard last year, and now, is finally complete with the departure of Gasol, who was proving to be a true problem with his recent ballhoggery (did you know he actually took more shots PER game than Kobe last year? What is this madness??)

By filling the team with rookies and journeymen, Kobe should easily be able to chuck 40-50 shots PER game, shattering all sorts of records just playing winning basketball. Why wouldn't you want the best player in the game taking all the shots?

Title #6 is coming for #24 and there is nothing you haters can do about it.

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

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