Premium liquor doesn't get me hungover

[hateraid]

Saturday night with 7 other friends and we polished of:

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What surprised me is that the next day I was good to go. This happens regularly when I switch to premiums. If it was a bottle of Jamieson, Crown, and Jose Cuervo I bet I would have been tied to my bed the next day
What is it? Is it the cleanliness? Does congac have less proof? Now on it's premiums all the way!

[Jailblazers7]

That's a little surprising because cognac is a little more sugary the other liquors. But yeah, I think top shelf stuff has fewer impurities which makes it easier for the body to break down.

[highwhey]

I've never had high end stuff but I definitely notice a difference between getting drunk on johnnie walker black and a $15 bottle of whisky.
I've also read lighter liquors are better than darker

[kentatm]

That's a little surprising because cognac is a little more sugary the other liquors. But yeah, I think top shelf stuff has fewer impurities which makes it easier for the body to break down.


I wonder if sugar vs high fructose corn syrup makes a difference?

a lot of low end booze has moved to HFCS lately since its cheaper due to all the bullshit govt subsidies to corn growers.

[hateraid]

I wonder if sugar vs high fructose corn syrup makes a difference?

a lot of low end booze has moved to HFCS lately since its cheaper due to all the bullshit govt subsidies to corn growers.

Good call. Maybe it's a North American liquor thing vs. an International Liquor thing.

Although Jamieson gets me blackout drunk. Unless there's a distillery here?

[Meticode]

I wonder if sugar vs high fructose corn syrup makes a difference?

a lot of low end booze has moved to HFCS lately since its cheaper due to all the bullshit govt subsidies to corn growers.
It probably does.

HFCS get's metabolized the same way in the body as alcohol does, except it doesn't give you a hang-over obviously. Natural sugar gets as absorbed through the body differently. Also HFCS inhibits the hunger hormone leptin, which gives you a full feeling. Which is a part reason why people who eat tones of crappy with HFCS in it always feel hungry shortly afterwards.

So I wouldn't be surprised if it effected how your body reacts to alcohol consumption.

[~primetime~]

I have actually done a fair amount of research on hangovers because I suffered from them a great deal when I drank. There are some things that are known to cause hangovers (carcinogens, dehydration, etc) but a lot of it is unknown and a lot of it is also purely genetic.

Roughly 25% of heavy drinkers claim to have never suffered a hangover.

I used to think that body weight played a big role but it doesn't appear that way...there are little 90 lb alcoholic women out there that suffer less hangover symptoms than some overweight men.

[IamRAMBO24]

Asians are always rolling wih the expensive sh*t.

[~primetime~]

Alcohol flushing is also interesting..."Asian glow"

There are some parts of East Asia where alcoholism rates are extremely low because of it, most people just don't drink.

[hateraid]

It probably does.

HFCS get's metabolized the same way in the body as alcohol does, except it doesn't give you a hang-over obviously. Natural sugar gets as absorbed through the body differently. Also HFCS inhibits the hunger hormone leptin, which gives you a full feeling. Which is a part reason why people who eat tones of crappy with HFCS in it always feel hungry shortly afterwards.

So I wouldn't be surprised if it effected how your body reacts to alcohol consumption.

good peice of knowledge meti, I didn't know that! :cheers:

[Meticode]

good peice of knowledge meti, I didn't know that! :cheers:
If you ever have time (1.5 hours) to watch a documentary about the effects of high sugar intact and the difference between HFCS, Dextrose, Sucrose, Fructose, Sugar, etc... I highly recommend this documentary. The guy keeps it semi-interesting and provides a ton of information on sugar intake in general.

Here's where he starts talking about HFCS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM#t=1007

[oarabbus]

I too have found that nicer liquors produce less of a hangover. For exapmle I felt pretty great after going through some Gentleman's Jack, but regular JD has given me a hangover.

Although sometimes I'll have those nights where I mixed vodka, whiskey, rum, and downed a bunch of beers and still feel alright, so it's kind of hit or miss.

[~primetime~]

some of it could be purely placebo

you know you got drunk off the "good stuff" and not cheap wine...so you wake up feelin fresh knowing your above the rest

[hateraid]

I too have found that nicer liquors produce less of a hangover. For exapmle I felt pretty great after going through some Gentleman's Jack, but regular JD has given me a hangover.

Although sometimes I'll have those nights where I mixed vodka, whiskey, rum, and downed a bunch of beers and still feel alright, so it's kind of hit or miss.

I gauge a lot from my activity.
Sitting watching a game gets me drunk where I can drink the same amount at a club or a wedding and party hard and feel great. Maybe because I'm burning of the alcohol?
But premiums get me drunk, but a mellow mood.
the bad thing is we got into a weight lifting discussion that became a challenge. Went into my buddies garage and started doing bench presses :oldlol:
Funny is the guy who chirped the most lifted the least. Got to 155 and gave up

[hateraid]

If you ever have time (1.5 hours) to watch a documentary about the effects of high sugar intact and the difference between HFCS, Dextrose, Sucrose, Fructose, Sugar, etc... I highly recommend this documentary. The guy keeps it semi-interesting and provides a ton of information on sugar intake in general.

Here's where he starts talking about HFCS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM#t=1007

Thanks!
I can pass this on to my customers. I know the basic knowledge since this discussion comes up quite frequently in conversation. I constantly have to break down sweetener profiles of our products

[hateraid]

some of it could be purely placebo

you know you got drunk off the "good stuff" and not cheap wine...so you wake up feelin fresh knowing your above the rest

Maybe, could also be a regional or alcohol type type of thing.
Can anyone account for how they disclose the proof of the alcohol?

[outbreak]

I have never noticed a difference with hang overs and the quality of what I drink but I know what type of drink I drink has a huge difference for me. I don't think I've ever had a hang over from whiskey but with beer and red wine I know I get hang overs. Can't say I've ever been drunk enough on cognac to know what that does though. I always thought it had to do with going to bed too drunk, if I stay up long enough and drink a shit load of water I don't get hang overs.

[TheReal Kendall]

You probably didn't drink enough OP


How much are each of those bottles?

[hateraid]

You probably didn't drink enough OP


How much are each of those bottles?

VSOP about $80.
XO Excellence about $250
Don Julio 1942 $150

I got to tell you, they were delicious

For some stupid reason we were doing them in 1.5 oz shots.

I had about 3 VSOP, 3 Excellence, and 4 of the Don Julio, plus drank Stellas.

[kentatm]

Maybe, could also be a regional or alcohol type type of thing.
Can anyone account for how they disclose the proof of the alcohol?

dunno about what they do to disclose the proof but I do know quite a few booze makers don't tell you what all they put in there.

it could be something to do with whatever random ingredients they use.

[~primetime~]

For some stupid reason we were doing them in 1.5 oz shots.


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[TheReal Kendall]

VSOP about $80.
XO Excellence about $250
Don Julio 1942 $150

I got to tell you, they were delicious

For some stupid reason we were doing them in 1.5 oz shots.

I had about 3 VSOP, 3 Excellence, and 4 of the Don Julio, plus drank Stellas.

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

No way I'm gonna spend that much on liquor. I'll rather just deal with the hangover next morning.

[outbreak]

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

No way I'm gonna spend that much on liquor. I'll rather just deal with the hangover next morning.

I wouldn't spend that much on alcohol I was drinking in shots anyway, I'll only spend money on something like a nice whiskey\wine I'll actually drink and savour the taste of. Although I wouldn't really spend more than around $150 on a bottle of anything to be honest and when I do have a nice bottle of something I don't really drink it to get drunk either, maybe as a starter before going out somewhere but not to just get drunk on it.

[NumberSix]

I too have found that nicer liquors produce less of a hangover. For exapmle I felt pretty great after going through some Gentleman's Jack, but regular JD has given me a hangover.

Although sometimes I'll have those nights where I mixed vodka, whiskey, rum, and downed a bunch of beers and still feel alright, so it's kind of hit or miss.
You're imagining things.

It's a simple matter of dehydration. When you drink Alcohol, no matter how much water you take in, you have to output even more so you're depleting the natural balance of water in your body. The more alcohol you drink, the more water is depleted. When you're dehydrated, you're cerebral fluid is decreased.

"Hangover" is the feeling of your cerebral fluid being decreased. It doesn't matter what kind of drinking you are drinking. It only matters the amount of alcohol you are drinking.

[Dresta]

I have actually done a fair amount of research on hangovers because I suffered from them a great deal when I drank. There are some things that are known to cause hangovers (carcinogens, dehydration, etc) but a lot of it is unknown and a lot of it is also purely genetic.

Roughly 25% of heavy drinkers claim to have never suffered a hangover.

I used to think that body weight played a big role but it doesn't appear that way...there are little 90 lb alcoholic women out there that suffer less hangover symptoms than some overweight men.
Yeah, i've found that regularity plays a big part, at least for me: when i used to drink heavily (>70cl bottle of spirits a night) i never got bad hangovers, though i often lost my appetite. Now that i very rarely drink i can feel the hangover coming on as i'm drinking.

[Jailblazers7]

Those prices aren't terrible. If you're buying a bottle for $70-$100 it generally isn't going to be for the purpose of taking shots and drinking a fifth in one night. A bottle of nice whiskey will last me a while unless I have the occasional sleepless night.

[IamRAMBO24]

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

No way I'm gonna spend that much on liquor. I'll rather just deal with the hangover next morning.

Those asians would rather drink that expensive sh*t than pay their rent.

[IamRAMBO24]

VSOP about $80.
XO Excellence about $250
Don Julio 1942 $150



I don't see any VSOP. I'm a huge fan of Remy XO myself. That sh*t goes down as smooth as water and the drunk feeling is off the chain.

[oarabbus]

You're imagining things.

It's a simple matter of dehydration. When you drink Alcohol, no matter how much water you take in, you have to output even more so you're depleting the natural balance of water in your body. The more alcohol you drink, the more water is depleted. When you're dehydrated, you're cerebral fluid is decreased.

"Hangover" is the feeling of your cerebral fluid being decreased. It doesn't matter what kind of drinking you are drinking. It only matters the amount of alcohol you are drinking.


It's much more than a simple matter of dehydration. Otherwise when you become dehydrated from physical activity it would feel identical to a hangover :oldlol:

The metabolism of alcohol to acetaldehyde is a major factor, as well as destruction of the stomach lining. Also congeners in the alcohol and sugars contribute to increased hangovers.

[hateraid]

Those prices aren't terrible. If you're buying a bottle for $70-$100 it generally isn't going to be for the purpose of taking shots and drinking a fifth in one night. A bottle of nice whiskey will last me a while unless I have the occasional sleepless night.

Lol, it was my cousin's stash. He has a collection and while we were playing poker a buddy lost and said he wanted to leave unless he cracked open the XO. Filipinos like to "tagay" which is go shot for shot. I wanted to sip it, but it turned into a who's got the bigger cahonies. We were already drunk so everyone took it as a challenge. When one bottle was done the guys kept on egging my cousin on to crack open the most expensive bottles he had. He was generous and we were pigs. It's probably the only opportunity to have to drink this stuff. But they all tasted good.

[hateraid]

I don't see any VSOP. I'm a huge fan of Remy XO myself. That sh*t goes down as smooth as water and the drunk feeling is off the chain.

I used the wrong picture.
The was a huge difference between the 2 Remy bottles. The VSOP was fruity while the Excellence had a bit of a peaty taste. I liked the Excellence more than the other guys, but I'm a scotch drinker so that's probably why I enjoyed it more. The other guys like flavored vodka.

[NumberSix]

It's much more than a simple matter of dehydration. Otherwise when you become dehydrated from physical activity it would feel identical to a hangover :oldlol:

The metabolism of alcohol to acetaldehyde is a major factor, as well as destruction of the stomach lining. Also congeners in the alcohol and sugars contribute to increased hangovers.
It's not the same thing. You don't lose as much water from physical activity as you do from pissing a bunch of times when your drinking which because of the alcohol you're also not replenishing.

When you exercise, you drink a water or a Gatorade. Problem solved. It's not the same when you're drinking.

[~primetime~]

No he is correct, it is much more than dehydration. Although dehydration is part of it.

Hangovers are not cured by simply hydrating.

[Cowboy Thunder]

Hosty Duo - Bag of Wine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amViRSfvyjw)

[Tarik One]

No he is correct, it is much more than dehydration. Although dehydration is part of it.

Hangovers are not cured by simply hydrating.
They are not cured, but they are minimized if you hydrate BEFORE you go to bed. It works. Guzzle a couple of large cups of water and you'll be at 90% the next morning.

[GimmeThat]

well, I wonder what your work performance or test scores would be like the next morning regardless of hungover or not.

some people perform brilliantly, don't get me wrong.




I wonder if it had something to do with anxiety though.