Damn just talked to this guy from Haiti

[Godzuki]

he says zero progress of rebuilding has gone on over there despite hundreds of millions in aid. My uncle who is a catholic deacon went over there and told me of all of these aid groups and people over there when the story was popular.

The guy even said he saw stuff labeled for aid that people were selling :facepalm

he's got a 71 yr old relative over there where there is no work, and no way to get by on, other than him and his sister sending him money from the states.

He said nobody knows where exactly all of the money went other than it being swiped by the 3% rich somewhere along the line...

its funny because i told him i just assumed they had rebuilt now since i haven't heard anything about it since the relief funds were pouring in. Charity is like the biggest scam, and even if the charities don't reinvest it back into their telemarketing, and give it to the country it seems like some corrupt people will take it anyways.

Can't ever win trying to help people these days :confusedshrug:

[kNIOKAS]

I've watched this documentary on Haiti relief, how the help went down. It shows how all the big funds came to market themselves, and nobody were willing to do the dirty work. The funds ended up being wasted or put into incredibly stupid uses, and it is all a mess now. Highly recommend to watch it.

Fatal Assistance
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2373878/

trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGPbqO5ocrE

[BasedTom]

I'm in Miami, and most of the black people here aren't Africa-American, but instead descended from Haiti and other Caribbean countries. So I have a lot of experiences with Haitians. Some of it good, unfortunately, most of it not so good.

Some of the Haitians I've met in school and uni are really smart, good people. But most of the ones you see around the streets remind me of gypsies in Europe.

http://i.imgur.com/pRz1k9J.jpg

As much as I want to have sympathy for them, a good number of them that you see are just flat out scumbags and the worst type of immigrant. It's not rare for them to be very violent, proud of Haiti but hate the US, immoral, and have very little concept of manners or how people act in the civilized world. The prisons are full of "Jean-Pierres" and it's not funny frenchmen with striped shirts, but rather ghetto criminals who come from horrible conditions like the pic I posted above.

And please note that I'm not trying to be racist. Many other black people I hang out with (Jamaicans, Bahamians, Trinidadians) have a low opinion on the Haitian people as well. I hope that one day their country can improve, but I really doubt it ever will because of things like the corruption that OP is talking about.

[Nick Young]

he says zero progress of rebuilding has gone on over there despite hundreds of millions in aid. My uncle who is a catholic deacon went over there and told me of all of these aid groups and people over there when the story was popular.

The guy even said he saw stuff labeled for aid that people were selling :facepalm

he's got a 71 yr old relative over there where there is no work, and no way to get by on, other than him and his sister sending him money from the states.

He said nobody knows where exactly all of the money went other than it being swiped by the 3% rich somewhere along the line...

its funny because i told him i just assumed they had rebuilt now since i haven't heard anything about it since the relief funds were pouring in. Charity is like the biggest scam, and even if the charities don't reinvest it back into their telemarketing, and give it to the country it seems like some corrupt people will take it anyways.

Can't ever win trying to help people these days :confusedshrug:
Yep I have worked in the charity sector for a long time. Even charities like UNICEF and Red Cross are gigantic scams where I'd estimate 97% of the money donated from the public winds up in the charity organizers pockets and 3% is actually sent to the cause it is meant to be sent to, and then organized horribly.

[Nick Young]

I'm in Miami, and most of the black people here aren't Africa-American, but instead descended from Haiti and other Caribbean countries. So I have a lot of experiences with Haitians. Some of it good, unfortunately, most of it not so good.

Some of the Haitians I've met in school and uni are really smart, good people. But most of the ones you see around the streets remind me of gypsies in Europe.

http://i.imgur.com/pRz1k9J.jpg

As much as I want to have sympathy for them, a good number of them that you see are just flat out scumbags and the worst type of immigrant. It's not rare for them to be very violent, proud of Haiti but hate the US, immoral, and have very little concept of manners or how people act in the civilized world. The prisons are full of "Jean-Pierres" and it's not funny frenchmen with striped shirts, but rather ghetto criminals who come from conditions like the pic I posted above.

And please note that I'm not trying to be racist. Many other black people I hang out with (Jamaicans, Bahamians, Trinidadians) have a low opinion on the Haitian people as well. I hope that one day their country can improve, but I really doubt it ever will because of things like the corruption that OP is talking about.

I know what you mean, it's the same for Egyptians. I think that some cultures just create assholes that aren't able to function properly outside of their culture or interact with people of other cultures. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with cultural upbringing, but if anyone brings something like that up OH NO TABOO, PC police brigade, you are a giant racist.

[9erempiree]

I'm in Miami, and most of the black people here aren't Africa-American, but instead descended from Haiti and other Caribbean countries. So I have a lot of experiences with Haitians. Some of it good, unfortunately, most of it not so good.

Some of the Haitians I've met in school and uni are really smart, good people. But most of the ones you see around the streets remind me of gypsies in Europe.

http://i.imgur.com/pRz1k9J.jpg

As much as I want to have sympathy for them, a good number of them that you see are just flat out scumbags and the worst type of immigrant. It's not rare for them to be very violent, proud of Haiti but hate the US, immoral, and have very little concept of manners or how people act in the civilized world. The prisons are full of "Jean-Pierres" and it's not funny frenchmen with striped shirts, but rather ghetto criminals who come from horrible conditions like the pic I posted above.

And please note that I'm not trying to be racist. Many other black people I hang out with (Jamaicans, Bahamians, Trinidadians) have a low opinion on the Haitian people as well. I hope that one day their country can improve, but I really doubt it ever will because of things like the corruption that OP is talking about.

Dude looks like he's at a homeless camp and right behind it are subdivision homes.

[Bandito]

Yep I have worked in the charity sector for a long time. Even charities like UNICEF and Red Cross are gigantic scams where I'd estimate 97% of the money donated from the public winds up in the charity organizers pockets and 3% is actually sent to the cause it is meant to be sent to, and then organized horribly.
In the red cross for every dollar you give to charity like only 3 cents goes into the thing they are asking for. The rest of the money goes into the pockets of the president. UNICEF is even worse.

[sick_brah07]

charity is a scam

non profit organisations are the hardest to start but damn you can make some good money from them

[Godzuki]

sad thing is most of America doesn't know charities are scams.

Its sort of ridiculous to me its not publicized more than a CNN article(or another buried news article) while America continues to throw their money at them.

Red Cross is known and thought of in the mainstream as legit. I bet 80% of America doesn't know they reinvest most of their donations into telemarketing, and i just realized from this story how much other countries corrupt take from oversea's donations.

this shit needs to be the focus of a Presidential speech or something :mad:

[BigBoss]

Tell him not to worry Wyclef Jean will fix everything

[nathanjizzle]

its easy donating money, the hardwork is done on ground level which not many people are willing to do. What happens is that they have this onslaught of money, and little people to do work. they pay the people and get out as much supplies and aid as possible but its not enough to use up the money, the organizers know this. a year later they are still sitting on a pile of money with less people helping and then the charity organizers pocket what ever is left which is usually like 90 percent of the money.

[kNIOKAS]

its easy donating money, the hardwork is done on ground level which not many people are willing to do. What happens is that they have this onslaught of money, and little people to do work. they pay the people and get out as much supplies and aid as possible but its not enough to use up the money, the organizers know this. a year later they are still sitting on a pile of money with less people helping and then the charity organizers pocket what ever is left which is usually like 90 percent of the money.
It is actually the opposite, the documentary I've mentioned covers exactly that. Haiti wasn't given the money itself, it was companies bringing their own workers and equipment worth of money to help Haiti but only under their own terms. Nobody wanted to clear the debris, because it is hard, dirty work, everyone only wanted to build schools. It all ended up being a waste of resources, the effort was not coordinated, and the charity organizations just used up and laundred the relief money.

I guess it's somewhat similar to giving food aid to a starving country - effectively ruining their economy as own farmers go out of business, but then the food aid ends, and it's the same story all over again.