rings dont count unless you win fmvp

[rlsmooth775]

You can't use rings to make cases for players if he wasn't even the best player in the championship round sidekick rings are cheap and embarrassing to brag about

[dubeta]

Makes sense, otherwise Horry>Jordan

FMVP+ MVP is the true GOAT ranking

Jordan 11

LeBron 6

Shaq 4

Kobe 3

[SMoKe0uT]

Makes sense, otherwise Horry>Jordan

FMVP+ MVP is the true GOAT ranking

Jordan 11

LeBron 6

Shaq 4

Kobe 3

:facepalm


Russell 22 > everyone combined?

[Lamar Odumbb]

lebron stans still butt hurt he was humiliated by KY Jelly leonard and old man Duncan.

[Nuff Said]

Makes sense, otherwise Horry>Jordan

FMVP+ MVP is the true GOAT ranking

Jordan 11

LeBron 6

Shaq 4

Kobe 3

Your list is severely lacking but ok.

[kennethgriffin]

some teams dont win with 1 guy doing all the work

some teams win with 2 lead dogs

some teams have no lead dog and a random wins fmvp


sorry it varies based on each situation


kobe averaged 25/5/5 combined for the 3 titles he won without finals mvp

guys have won finals mvp with worse stats

in 2001 kobe had 29/7/6

that > kawhi leonard

[Marchesk]

FMVP + MVP + DPOY

Russell 19
MJ 12
Lebron 6
Kobe 3

[ThePhantomCreep]

Makes sense, otherwise Horry>Jordan

FMVP+ MVP is the true GOAT ranking

Jordan 11

LeBron 6

Shaq 4

Kobe 3

Rose > KG?

[Marchesk]

Russell 1.5-2X > MJ
MJ twice as good as Lebron
Lebron 2 times Kobe
Kobe 1.5 times Nash
Nash twice Malone

[rlsmooth775]

some teams dont win with 1 guy doing all the work

some teams win with 2 lead dogs

some teams have no lead dog and a random wins fmvp


sorry it varies based on each situation


kobe averaged 25/5/5 combined for the 3 titles he won without finals mvp

guys have won finals mvp with worse stats

in 2001 kobe had 29/7/6




that > kawhi leonard




Yeah I dont count kobe and his 3 sidekick rings as real championships. In order for it to have count he would have had to be the best player in the championship round. It just seems cheap to brag about a ring when a teammate played better than you

[Nowitness]

FMVP just means best in the finals though, you do realize that. You really think Cedric Maxwell was the best player for Boston? You really think Paul Pierce was the best player in 08? Or Parker in 07?

[ImKobe]

Yeah I dont count kobe and his 3 sidekick rings as real championships. In order for it to have count he would have had to be the best player in the championship round. It just seems cheap to brag about a ring when a teammate played better than you

Because only 1 player is deserving of the ring and other teammates have 0 impact on the outcome. Great logic.

[rlsmooth775]

Because only 1 player is deserving of the ring and other teammates have 0 impact on the outcome. Great logic.

Yeah but the ring only matters if you were the leader of the team thats the point. Who cares about sidekick rings

[kennethgriffin]

Yeah I dont count kobe and his 3 sidekick rings as real championships. In order for it to have count he would have had to be the best player in the championship round. It just seems cheap to brag about a ring when a teammate played better than you
for the bazillionth time

the championship round was after the fact

kobe averaged 33ppg and shaq averaged 27ppg through the first 3 rounds in 2001


against the REAL competition


honestly how many times are we gonna have this same exact conversation

it goes the same way every single time


someone says kobe didnt win finals mvp


we post stats and competition.


you go crying and hiding

[rlsmooth775]

for the bazillionth time

the championship round was after the fact

kobe averaged 33ppg and shaq averaged 27ppg through the first 3 rounds in 2001


against the REAL competition


honestly how many times are we gonna have this same exact conversation

it goes the same way every single time



someone says kobe didnt win finals mvp


we post stats and competition.


you go crying and hiding

So kobe wet his pants in the final round and needed Shaq to carry him to the championship hahahahahahahahah

[knicksman]

sidekick rings>>>cheated rings

Thats why bran stans are the cheapeast of the cheaps coz theyre proud of their heros cheated rings. :lol

[jzek]

That's why I don't count Kobe's first three rings. He was a sidekick. TMac, Iverson, Vince, etc. all would have won three rings as Shaq's sidekick.

[JT123]

for the bazillionth time

the championship round was after the fact

kobe averaged 33ppg and shaq averaged 27ppg through the first 3 rounds in 2001


against the REAL competition


honestly how many times are we gonna have this same exact conversation

it goes the same way every single time


someone says kobe didnt win finals mvp


we post stats and competition.


you go crying and hiding
So why does Kobe struggle so much against bad teams? :lol

[knicksman]

So why does Kobe struggle so much against bad teams? :lol

well if kobe struggles, then how much for bran? Oh well theres a reason why he disappears in the finals.

[JT123]

well if kobe struggles, then how much for bran? Oh well theres a reason why he disappears in the finals.
Lebron has better Finals stats than Kobe. Try again, fake Knicks fan. :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Why do people even respond to this?

KAJ has 2 rings I guess..


Kobe has rings that "don't count" where he averaged more ppg in the playoffs than prime Bron did in 2011,2013,2014 :roll: :roll:

[rlsmooth775]

well if kobe struggles, then how much for bran? Oh well theres a reason why he disappears in the finals.

This thread is only about players with sidekick rings

[rlsmooth775]

Why do people even respond to this?

KAJ has 2 rings I guess..


Kobe has rings that "don't count" where he averaged more ppg in the playoffs than prime Bron did in 2011,2013,2014 :roll: :roll:

Rings only count when you were the best player on your team in the finals. Second or third best is just a cheap sidekick ring

[knicksman]

Lebron has better Finals stats than Kobe. Try again, fake Knicks fan. :oldlol:

well how it feels to be 1 of the lowest IQ on this board? I mean you got fooled by a statpadder..:lol

[JT123]

well how it feels to be 1 of the lowest IQ on this board? I mean you got fooled by a statpadder..:lol
This is how you know someone is autistic. The keep repeating the same lines over and over again. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Get some new material, son.

[Ne 1]

Magic is a 5x champion even though he won his first few titles with a superior player. Kobe is a 2x champion because his first 3 rings don't count because he won them with a superior player. Kobe detractors logic. Hell, Kobe was a lot closer to Shaq in in 2001 and 2002 than Magic was to Kareem in 1980 but only 2 of Kobe's rings "count" (2009/2010) yet all 5 of Magic's rings "count?":oldlol: Nobody seems to care that Dr. J and Oscar won with a superior player either.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Rings only count when you were the best player on your team in the finals. Second or third best is just a cheap sidekick ring

So KAJ only has 2 rings?

Kobe has rings that don't count even though he was averaging more ppg in the 01 playoffs than Lebron did in the 11,13,14 playoffs? While also averaging more assist than Lebron also :roll: :roll:

And more points per game in the 02 playoffs than Lebron in the 2011 & 2013 playoffs :roll: :roll:

There's the door troll..

[Destroyer9]

Only 29 players in the history of the league have rings :eek:

[rlsmooth775]

So KAJ only has 2 rings?

Kobe has rings that don't count even though he was averaging more ppg in the 01 playoffs than Lebron did in the 11,13,14 playoffs? While also averaging more assist than Lebron also :roll: :roll:

And more points per game in the 02 playoffs than Lebron in the 2011 & 2013 playoffs :roll: :roll:

There's the door troll..

Wow i got you so upset lol. Sidekick rings are cheap and don't count kobe got carried in the finals like scottie pippen. I dont know why you keep mentioning Lebron this is a thread about players with sidekick rings and his 2012 playoff run >>>>anything kobe ever did

[rlsmooth775]

Why are kobe fans the only one upset with this thread not that bad being scottie pippen

[TheMarkMadsen]

Wow i got you so upset lol. Sidekick rings are cheap and don't count kobe got carried in the finals like scottie pippen. I dont know why you keep mentioning Lebron this is a thread about players with sidekick rings and his 2012 playoff run >>>>anything kobe ever did

Please tell me how Kobe averaged more ppg than Lebron yet it doesn't count?

Do magics rings count?

Do Kareem's?

Do Duncan's?

Does Bird only have 2 rings.

Answers please.

[rlsmooth775]

Please tell me how Kobe averaged more ppg than Lebron yet it doesn't count?

Do magics rings count?

Do Kareem's?

Do Duncan's?

Does Bird only have 2 rings.

Answers please.

Sure you get the physical ring but in reality it has no meaning cause you weren't the leader the alpha dog

[knicksman]

Sure you get the physical ring but in reality it has no meaning cause you weren't the leader the alpha dog

at the end of the day, what lebron did is the most beta thing to do so bran has beta rings. so 0/5. and oh btw, only betas worship betas. No wonder why posters like you, jt123, dubeta, lebron23 posts like real losers.

[SouBeachTalents]

Well then according to this logic NOBODY won a ring on the 1969 Celtics