Lance Stephenson to Hornets

[konex]

@Chris_Broussard: 3 yrs $27 million Lance to Charlotte, "@rick_bonnell: The Charlotte Hornets will sign Lance Stephenson, the Observer has learned."

[JohnFreeman]

Not bad

[Rubio2Gasol]

If they do that.....shieeet.

3 years 27 million?

I don't believe that. He could have opted out after three on the deal the Pacers offered.

Someone else should jump on this.

[Cocaine80s]

WTF:biggums:

Pacers just became irrelevant again

[russwest0]

Dam

[konex]

Broussard is hilarious. After the Hornets beat writer broke the story he posted a tweet reporting it via "sources"

[Shade8780]

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 5m
Last yr for Lance is team option
Great deal for the Hornets.

[East_Stone_Ya]

damn..I was hoping that he would stay with Pacers

[StephHamann]

the hornets will be a defensive juggernaut

:applause:

still dont see enough scoring for a deep playoff run

[Rubio2Gasol]

the hornets will be a defensive juggernaut

:applause:

still dont see enough scoring for a deep playoff run

Just realized this. Charlotte not New Orleans.

That would have been nice.

[Milbuck]

Holy shit. Great for the Hornets..Pacers are ****ed.

[russwest0]

Remember last year when Paul George was an MVP Candidate and Roy Hibbert was a DPOY lock?

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[ronnymac]

The Hornets/Bobcats were a great defensive team and this just makes them even better.They get a guy who can play swingman role and be a defensive weapon.I really like where the Hornets are going.They also get someone who can score outside of Al Jefferson and Walker.

[MJ(Mean John)]

Do lance turned down a 5/44 for this?
I'm assuming the other deal started at 8 mil? And had raises?

Guess he didn't want to go back to INDY.

Or maybe he thinks with Charlotte is a young up and coming team where Lance will get the green light and after 3 years will be in a position to get the Max from someone.

And TBH hornets>>Pacers.

Man Hornets will be sick this year! East is retooling.

Pacers are done. Hibbert sucks.
Although an argument can be made that the emergence of Lance was the cause of Hibberts Denise

[UK2K]

What a steal

[Cocaine80s]

MJ will train Lance and help him get his mind right.

Lance is a future top 10 player

[Bobcats2013]

Wow that's shocking. Good for the Bobcats.

[DirkNowitzki41]

Great deal.

This was very similar to Monta's situation last year.. reject a bigger offer from their original teams then end up falling through the cracks for a cheaper deal.

Couldn't work out better for Dallas, so hope it works well for Charlotte. They looking good

[UK2K]

Bobcats will be the #1 seed in the East provided they stay healthy.

Calling it now.

[Rik Smits' Hair]

ISH "Lance sucks. He's over rated............... oh He left Indiana. Pacers are ****ed"

[russwest0]

It's now time for MJ to step up to the plate and coach this team.

[roffie]

hornets are starting to look good for once

[UK2K]

the hornets will be a defensive juggernaut

:applause:

still dont see enough scoring for a deep playoff run
Kemba, Stephenson, and Jefferson to go along with a top 5 defense...

What more do you need?

[StephHamann]

Kemba, Stephenson, and Jefferson to go along with a top 5 defense...

What more do you need?

more bench scoring, if they could add a guy like Mo Williams, they would look real good.

[blacknapalm]

wow, totally thought he'd be overpaid but this is a nice little deal. hornets are having a sneaky good offseason. def not playoff worthy yet but might be tapping on the door soon.

[BigTicket]

Isn't that less than what the Pacers offered ? I guess he just wanted out.

[russwest0]

ISH "Lance sucks. He's over rated............... oh He left Indiana. Pacers are ****ed"

lol ISH was just pissed because the Pacers legit looked like they could beat the Heat and then they fell apart making the East as undramatic as possible

[sportjames23]

MJ building a juggernaut. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[blacknapalm]

Isn't that less than what the Pacers offered ? I guess he just wanted out.

calculated risk. he's willing to take a bit less to take on a more prominent role. he can end up earning more down the line and that's why it's a short contract. kinda safe for both sides.

[fragokota]

He obviously wanted out. Pacers had those lockeroom issues for quite some time

[Dragic4Life]

Damn I wanted him on the Suns.

[HylianNightmare]

Love it for them. I expect an excellent year from him. Sucks for the pacers doe

[El Kabong]

In the end the Hornets are likely cheering that the Jazz decided to match Hayward's offer now that they've gotten Stephenson on that deal.

[BigTicket]

In the end the Hornets are likely cheering that the Jazz decided to match Hayward's offer now that they've gotten Stephenson on that deal.

Yeah, Lance for $27M is definetely a better deal than Hayward for $63M.

[MJ(Mean John)]

wow, totally thought he'd be overpaid but this is a nice little deal. hornets are having a sneaky good offseason. def not playoff worthy yet but might be tapping on the door soon.

Bro they made the playoffs last year

[wally_world]

Pacers :facepalm

Surprised he signed for so little. Imagine the Suns signing him iso Isaiah

[smoovegittar]

Looks like y'all are gonna have to shuffle that "East 1-8" deck again...:facepalm

[blacknapalm]

Bro they made the playoffs last year

how could i forget the bron stare, duh. my bad...guess it was such a slaughter i didn't remember much :oldlol:

i'll put it this way...they can be a consistent lower seed PO team with potential if they can build on this.

[Angel Face]

Jordan will soon to be GOAT in 2 professions. GOAT owner, GOAT player.

:bowdown:

[russwest0]

Jordan will soon to be GOAT in 2 professions. GOAT owner, GOAT player.

:bowdown:

Shitting on Bird 20 years later :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Angel Face]

Shitting on Bird 20 years later :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

:bowdown:

[AintNoSunshine]

wow, totally thought he'd be overpaid but this is a nice little deal. hornets are having a sneaky good offseason. def not playoff worthy yet but might be tapping on the door soon.


What? They were in the PO last year before all these off season moves.

[BlazerRed]

Wow.. what a steal.

[El Kabong]

Pacers :facepalm

Surprised he signed for so little. Imagine the Suns signing him iso Isaiah
It's hard for Bird, not allowed to go over the tax line of $76 million, their payroll is about $3-$4 million short of it and they've got $53 million tied up in George, Hibbert, West and Hill alone. Outside of moving on Hibbert for little in return or cutting Scola and trading away guys like Mahinimi, Waston or Copeland there really wasn't any way for them to keep him.

[Denitron]

Pacers in trouble


Jordan will soon to be GOAT in 2 professions. GOAT owner, GOAT player.

:bowdown:

:bowdown:

[coin24]

What a steal:applause:

Great job hornets.. Indy in deep shit

[pegasus]

Fcuk, I thought it was NO, not Charlotte:facepalm Even when they offered Hayward a contract, I thought it was AD's team:lol East is getting more and more balanced:applause:

[longtime lurker]

Smh. This is exactly the player that the Lakers should have been after. Now to find out her was signed for this steal of a deal.... Smh other teams playing chess Lakers playing go boggle

[It's A VC3!!!]

Pacers and Heat much weaker than last season. The top two teams in the East may very well be the Bulls and Wizards. Road to the finals from the east perspective is up for grabs.

[D-Rose]

Charlotte is building a legitimately good team next season. I mean Top 3-4 in the East They have had a great off season...getting Noah Vonleh in the draft was a damn steal.

Lance is going to produce...this is excellent news to help strengthen the East :applause:

[Meticode]

Wow, Stephenson gave up $44 million over 5 years for $27 million over three.

[Dragic4Life]

Wow, Stephenson gave up $44 million over 5 years for $27 million over three.
Dat MJ mentorship price.:pimp:

[D-Rose]

What'd Indy gunna do? Sign Evan Turner? :oldlol:

[Dragic4Life]

What'd Indy gunna do? Sign Evan Turner? :oldlol:
Rose fan talking smack.:lol :hammerhead:

[Meticode]

What'd Indy gunna do? Sign Evan Turner? :oldlol:
Either that or have C.J. Miles start SG. Miles is a good SG, but he's not the ball handler that Stephenson is.

[D-Rose]

Rose fan talking smack.:lol :hammerhead:
I mean seriously though...that trade changed everything for them lol

[FlawlessVictory]

Does anyone know if Jordan and his ownership group would be willing to pay some tax in the future?

We are witnessing the limited ceiling of a small market team in Indiana as they have a cheap ass owner. Charlotte are building a very nice team, it will be interesting to see if they can keep all that talent together when Kemba and to a lesser degree Mkg gets paid.

[Meticode]

Hopefully the end result is the East is more competitive, at least with each other.

[poido123]

Wow, Stephenson gave up $44 million over 5 years for $27 million over three.


The Bulls missed out on this opportunity :mad:

Good signing by the Hornets, MJ will be able to mentor this guy and turn his craziness into good.

[CLTHornets4eva]

Does anyone know if Jordan and his ownership group would be willing to pay some tax in the future?

We are witnessing the limited ceiling of a small market team in Indiana as they have a cheap ass owner. Charlotte are building a very nice team, it will be interesting to see if they can keep all that talent together when Kemba and to a lesser degree Mkg gets paid.

MJ already said that he would pay the tax if he needs to retain a good team. He has shown that he will pay the max. If Vonleh turns into a star, woah. And they can clear enough room in '16 for Steph Curry or CP3 to come home this could be a top 2 team in the East. With MJ's brand, a really solid young team could draw a star in a couple FA classes.

What's so great is that the Hornets have a team option for year three, basically safe guarding against any potential issues that Stephenson could have.:applause:

I only regret the Marvin $. We still have some money to add a pure shooter.

[raprap]

Lance will be an all star next year. Watch out for the hornets! :eek:

[Meticode]

Watch out! NBA 2K14 customer rosters on PC! East is wide open!

[FlawlessVictory]

MJ already said that he would pay the tax if he needs to retain a good team. He has shown that he will pay the max. If Vonleh turns into a star, woah. And they can clear enough room in '16 for Steph Curry or CP3 to come home this could be a top 2 team in the East. With MJ's brand, a really solid young team could draw a star in a couple FA classes.

What's so great is that the Hornets have a team option for year three, basically safe guarding against any potential issues that Stephenson could have.:applause:

I only regret the Marvin $. We still have some money to add a pure shooter.

The MJ brand thing is interesting. The problem is that I don't think he can really leverage that to its fullest extent to benefit Charlotte. What I mean is that Charlotte can't go out and sign a player and then conveniently a few weeks/months later he gets a massive endorsement deal with the Jordan brand.

Fairly certain the NBA would not let that happen...

[sportjames23]

wow, totally thought he'd be overpaid but this is a nice little deal. hornets are having a sneaky good offseason. def not playoff worthy yet but might be tapping on the door soon.

Considering they made the playoffs this past season and are looking even better now (at least on paper), I don't see how they're not playoff worthy.

[sportjames23]

Bro they made the playoffs last year


LOL, beat me to it. :oldlol:

[CLTHornets4eva]

The MJ brand thing is interesting. The problem is that I don't think he can really leverage that to its fullest extent to benefit Charlotte. What I mean is that Charlotte can't go out and sign a player and then conveniently a few weeks/months later he gets a massive endorsement deal with the Jordan brand.

Fairly certain the NBA would not let that happen...

I'm not sure of the collusion in marketing rule in the NBA. I don't think its any different than Bran meeting with Nike to "discuss" the potential markets.

[DirkNowitzki41]

The Dallas Mavericks had a two-year, $20 million offer on the table to Stephenson, contingent on the Houston Rockets matching their offer for forward Chandler Parsons. If Houston had matched, Stephenson would have signed with Dallas, sources said.

Like many teams, the Hornets, while fans of Stephenson's play, had concerns about his antics and attitude. But sources say those concerns were alleviated in Tuesday's face-to-face meeting.

:eek:

[FlawlessVictory]

I'm not sure of the collusion in marketing rule in the NBA. I don't think its any different than Bran meeting with Nike to "discuss" the potential markets.
I am nearly sure it is different. It would be seen as a way of circumventing the salary cap.

[Jailblazers7]

Great signing, I was really hoping this would happen. A Kemba/Lance back court is going to be a ton of fun to watch, especially on D.

Kemba/Gary Neal
Lance/Gerald Henderson
MKG/PJ Hairston/Jeff Taylor
Vonleh/Zeller
Al Jefferson/Bioymbo

^That's a damn solid team. I think they have a real shot at the ECF depending on how everything settles with all the changes made in the East. This season is actually going to be awesome for the East.

Cavs
Heat
Bulls
Hornets
Pacers

^All should be legitimately good teams.

[bagelred]

OK someone correct me if I'm wrong. but...didn't he have a 5 year, $45 million offer from Pacers? And if so, was that offer off the table? And if it wasn't, why didn't Lance take that?

Please fill me in on this mystery. :coleman:

[FlawlessVictory]

:eek:

Huge difference in dollars, but Parsons is a much better fit for the Mavs with Monta already on the roster.

[DirkNowitzki41]

Huge difference in dollars, but Parsons is a much better fit for the Mavs with Monta already on the roster.

Yeah, I agree. I wonder if they put Monta at the 1 and Lance at the 2. Or maybe one of them off the bench, cause thats a whole lotta crazy in the backcourt

[FlawlessVictory]

Yeah, I agree. I wonder if they put Monta at the 1 and Lance at the 2. Or maybe one of them off the bench, cause thats a whole lotta crazy in the backcourt

I don't like Monta playing heavy minutes at the point and I doubt either would be happy coming off the bench. Mavs might have dodged a bullet on this one, especially from a team chemistry pov.

[bagelred]

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[Jailblazers7]

They signed Roberts as their backup point guard and also overpaid Marvin Williams. I also doubt Vonleh starts, at least not in the first few months of the season.

Damn, forgot about Roberts. That's a good signing as I was about to say that I wish they had a better back-up PG. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure why they signed Marvin except to fill in some minutes as a stretch 4.

It will be interesting to see what kind of line-up they use for their front court.

[sportjames23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsqnPAJCYAIEiTs.png

:oldlol:

[Jailblazers7]

Not sure why people think MJ will be a mentor to Lance tho. If Bird couldn't do it, then I doubt Jordan can. But who knows Lance might be the type of personality who would respond well to Jordan.

[dunksby]

Good move by Charlotte Hornets, MJ setting up a good team.

[JohnFreeman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsqkuZhIIAAFwO3.jpg

[pegasus]

Either that or have C.J. Miles start SG. Miles is a good SG, but he's not the ball handler that Stephenson is.

They need a true PG. Too bad they don't have the pieces for Rondo, because now with C.J. as the starting SG, they have enough shooters on the floor for a pass-first, can't-shoot PG like Rondo to operate.

[poido123]

For all the Bobcats fans who have stuck by this team through thick and thin, you guys might have a competitive team capable of doing some really good things over the next few years.

You guys deserve it :cheers:

When I saw the Roster, I thought they lacked a decent backup point guard, but then I see they got Roberts who I think is really solid.

What a great offseason for the Hornets.:applause:

[roffie]

and pacers just got much worse...

[UNCrules2187]

Projected depth chart IMO:

PG: Walker/Roberts
SG: Stephenson/Henderson/Neal/Hairston
SF: Kidd-Gilchrist/Taylor/Douglas-Roberts
PF: Williams/Vonleh
C: Jefferson/Zeller/Biyombo

Obviously there's a logjam at the 2. Henderson has been on the block and I think CLT will try harder to move him now. He's on a fair contract ($6m per for next two seasons) and getting him off the books would leave CLT just shy of $9m in cap space to add a few more pieces for this season.

Really excited about what MJ and Cho are building here.

[jrong]

You know who this guy is? Stephen Jackson without the rings.

Talent and potential in spades, but a headcase who makes headcase decisions and is will probably headcase his way out of the league before long.

With the breakup of the Heat, the Pacers had a legit chance to get out of the East, but instead of staying or signing on with another contender, he goes to the last year's EC #8 seed?

And the sad thing is, I'd say Stephenson has even more raw talent than Jackson did.

[boozehound]

what a ****ing idiot. He took a way shorter deal worth the same per year to go to a much worse team (that just lost a major bigman?). Wow, just wow.

[atljonesbro]

Damn man I would have been happy with him for like 11 mill a year

[Carbine]

It blows my mind that Stephenson gets 9 million over three years and Parsons got 15 million over three years.

You could make the argument Stephenson is better and younger.

[Wavves]

Love this deal for the Hornets! Other than the Marvin Williams signing, I love what they are doing.

Hope Lance can keep his head on straight, because if he can keep it that way the Hornets can make some noise starting next season.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

I wonder how Pacers will be without him. Any good guards left on the market?
Hornets should be battling for home court though.

[CLTHornets4eva]

I wonder how Pacers will be without him. Any good guards left on the market?
Hornets should be battling for home court though.

I know how bad Boozer was at times for Chicago, but for 3-4 mil per year he would be great support at the 4. I think the Marvin deal was a slight freakout that we thought we wouldn't get Stephenson or Hayward. Were able to get him and have enough for a run at Lance. It worked out I guess. Gonna have to watch Marvin and his fat ass for the next 2 years.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

I know how bad Boozer was at times for Chicago, but for 3-4 mil per year he would be great support at the 4. I think the Marvin deal was a slight freakout that we thought we wouldn't get Stephenson or Hayward. Were able to get him and have enough for a run at Lance. It worked out I guess. Gonna have to watch Marvin and his fat ass for the next 2 years.
Well that could work depending how your big man rotation works.
I wouldn't want Boozer taking up Zeller's/Vonleh's playing time, but that's just me

[pegasus]

I wish the Bulls got him instead of Gasol. Younger and would have solved our problem at the backcourt. Yes, Lance can be problematic on and off the floor, but let's not forget about Gasol's hissy fits.

[UNCrules2187]

I know how bad Boozer was at times for Chicago, but for 3-4 mil per year he would be great support at the 4. I think the Marvin deal was a slight freakout that we thought we wouldn't get Stephenson or Hayward. Were able to get him and have enough for a run at Lance. It worked out I guess. Gonna have to watch Marvin and his fat ass for the next 2 years.

I think Marvin was an overpay in money in order to get flexibility in contract length. I would have preferred him at the MLE, but with the contract only being 2 years, we're not really limiting our ability to add players here. Marvin isn't the kind of creator on offense that McRoberts was, but he has a better track record of stretching the floor and providing scoring which is sorely needed.

Cho has built the roster very well. See what this core can do over the next two years in the East. If they can't accomplish anything, you've got Henderson, Williams, Big Al, and potentially Stephenson's contracts all coming off the books for the 2016 offseason leading to massive cap space. Obviously Kemba's extension (and potentially MKG's) will eat up a portion of that cap space, but still a lot of room to remold the team if need be.

[Droid101]

Player option for the third year I'm guessing. Less years at more money per year and a chance at another big payday. Not bad.

[UNCrules2187]

Player option for the third year I'm guessing. Less years at more money per year and a chance at another big payday. Not bad.

It's a team option after year 2.

[CelticBaller]

Bobcats taking over that division

[AMERVET]

Went to pacers forum and a lot of their fans say good riddance as if his contributions were minute. Lance knew that the organization didn't have his back 100% after publicly criticizing him for his antics , even though he showed more heart than the rest of the team. He is old school and will get under your skin. Jordan wants players who remind him of his era when there was no public friendships between league rivals. Plus the guy will have a chance to get a new deal at the peek of his prime. I say great move by Jordan and the Stevenson camp. In today's NBA you have to maximize your profits while you're in the drivers seat.

[gasolina]

Went to pacers forum and a lot of their fans say good riddance as if his contributions were minute. Lance knew that the organization didn't have his back 100% after publicly criticizing him for his antics , even though he showed more heart than the rest of the team. He is old school and will get under your skin. Jordan wants players who remind him of his era when there was no public friendships between league rivals. Plus the guy will have a chance to get a new deal at the peek of his prime. I say great move by Jordan and the Stevenson camp. In today's NBA you have to maximize your profits while you're in the drivers seat.
Pacers roster looking a little thin an old. They could still be mentally tired with last season's mess.

They need a shakeup on their roster. I know Lance may be part of the problem but losing him makes the roster less dynamic than it already is

[Twiens]

Aaaaaaand there goes any chance of the Pacers contending

[CavaliersFTW]

Great acquisition for the Hornets :applause:

[Cactus-Sack]

I really hope they keep Henderson as the back-up 2/3 and move Hairston/Taylor for a back-up pg.

[UK2K]

I think Kemba/Lance/Jefferson is the best trio RIGHT NOW in the East.

Yes better than Kyrie/Wiggins/Lebron because Kyrie is butt and Wiggins is a big ?

[imnew09]

Fken lakers should jump on that. Fkkkkk

[TexasBloodMoney]

I think the Pacers will survive without him. He's very ball-dominant and a bit of a stat-whore. Jordan Crawford is still available if they want some extra scoring.

[SwishSquared]

Aside from the Marvin Williams overpay, I'm liking what the Hornets are doing this off-season. It's been mentioned, but a Kemba-Lance-Big Al core is really solid in the EC. McRoberts & Tolliver may be missed, but they did just draft 2 PFs in the lotto consecutive years. Would hope that Williams doesn't interfere with their PT so they can develop.

They wrung out some extra assets from Miami in the Napier/Hairston swap, but will Hairston get much time at all next couple years? He's a bit of a headcase so maybe some time in D-League again won't hurt. I don't think there's a huge market for Henderson (believe that 2015-2016 is a team option on his contract) or Neal (expiring) to clear some time for the younger players. This is a pretty deep squad right now. Wouldn't be shocked at all if they got home court in the playoffs next year.

[Mr. Incredible]

Bye bye pacers

[hawkfan]

Maybe Shawn Marion to the Pacers to take LS's spot.

[DMAVS41]

Healthy Wizards the best team in the East? Hearing they are getting Blair today as well.

Healthy Bulls would be the best team of course, but that seems absurd at this point.

[CLTHornets4eva]

Bobcats taking over that division

Hate to be the Hornets editor-in-chief but its Hornets. The "B*bcats" era is ova!

[TylerOO]

Maybe Shawn Marion to the Pacers to take LS's spot.

Pacers will average 68 PPG :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

Pacers will average 68 PPG :oldlol:

Yea...would be awful.

They are going after Rodney Stuckey to fill in for Lance. I like that move actually.

[DMV2]

Hate to be the Hornets editor-in-chief but its Hornets. The "B*bcats" era is ova!
Horncats

I actually developed a liking for the Bobcats nickname the last couple of years.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Not a Lance fan, but that's a good price. Thought he would get paid more.

Bobcats name must have been unlucky.

[Quizno]

couldn't be happier with this signing. we SHOULD have a 50 win team capable of making a nice push in the playoffs. our fortunes have turned for the better :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[alenleomessi]

the east is finally becoming interesting.. wide open as of right now

[RoTM]

Pacer deal wasn't still on the table. He turned them down and they went and got Miles. Lance thought a market was going to be there for him that never materialized for whatever reason.

[hangintheair]

**** Yeah

That's what I'm talking about.. 50 win team here we come.

[305Baller]

Hornets will be decent

[bluechox2]

bad move for lance

[LA Lakers]

Good job, Michael. Finally making some good moves for Charlotte. Would have loved Lance on the Lakers teamed up with Kobe. He has that fire.

[Is He Ill]

It blows my mind that Stephenson gets 9 million over three years and Parsons got 15 million over three years.

You could make the argument Stephenson is better and younger.

He's also an arrogant headcase.

[Adrenalynn]

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[Chill_Hustle]

http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4763770/lance_hornet_medium.png

:oldlol:

[stalkerforlife]

Great deal for the Hornets. MJ will mentor this young crazy man and probably even bust his ass a little one on one. I have no doubt MJ could still beat a lot of these young punks one on one.

MJ, the owner, is a huge success.

[kshutts1]

Isn't that less than what the Pacers offered ? I guess he just wanted out.
Two pages in, and I've seen the comment that Lance was offered "more money" from the Pacers.

27 / 3 = 9m a year.
44 / 5 = 8.8m a year
8.8 < 9

Not to mention, Lance wanted a shorter contract, likely so he could prove his "haters" wrong, and get a larger one. Dude is like 23. He plays until 26 on this deal. Now he's in his prime and, theoretically anyway, he's shown that he's not a headcase. Max contract, easy. A FA again at 31... still young enough to get a shorter max, or a longer near max.

Or!!!
FA at 28 on the same team. One max deal brings him to 33. Now what?

[wally_world]

Two pages in, and I've seen the comment that Lance was offered "more money" from the Pacers.

27 / 3 = 9m a year.
44 / 5 = 8.8m a year
8.8 < 9

Not to mention, Lance wanted a shorter contract, likely so he could prove his "haters" wrong, and get a larger one. Dude is like 23. He plays until 26 on this deal. Now he's in his prime and, theoretically anyway, he's shown that he's not a headcase. Max contract, easy. A FA again at 31... still young enough to get a shorter max, or a longer near max.

Or!!!
FA at 28 on the same team. One max deal brings him to 33. Now what?

Thing is Pacers couldve bumped their offer up, or at least have a good negotiation with Lance. It's almost like Lance didnt wanna play for Indy.

[UNCrules2187]

Two pages in, and I've seen the comment that Lance was offered "more money" from the Pacers.

27 / 3 = 9m a year.
44 / 5 = 8.8m a year
8.8 < 9

Not to mention, Lance wanted a shorter contract, likely so he could prove his "haters" wrong, and get a larger one. Dude is like 23. He plays until 26 on this deal. Now he's in his prime and, theoretically anyway, he's shown that he's not a headcase. Max contract, easy. A FA again at 31... still young enough to get a shorter max, or a longer near max.

Or!!!
FA at 28 on the same team. One max deal brings him to 33. Now what?

Not to mention the Pacers offer started low and then ramped up, so Lance actually makes more over the term of the Lance's contract with the Hornets:

Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
Don't confuse starting salaries with average salaries. Pace or average offer is $8.8 million but starting is $7.6 million.

Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
For context, the Pacers' 5/$44 offer would pay $7.7mm in yr1, $8.2mm yr2 for total of $15.9mm.

Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
CHA offer will pay Lance about $3mm more over next three years than Pacer offer, but has $26mm less in total guaranteed dollars.

[GimmeThat]

well, Jordan misses Rip Hamilton.

[rufuspaul]

I was just about to make a thread on how disappointed I was with the way FA was going for the Hornets when this news broke. It's gonna be a fun season.

[kshutts1]

Thing is Pacers couldve bumped their offer up, or at least have a good negotiation with Lance. It's almost like Lance didnt wanna play for Indy.
I don't blame him. He was not offered much freedom on that team. And I don't mean verbally, as I obviously don't have any inside info, but rather in play style. I think Lance should be more like the second option, whereas on Indy he was the third option on a good day, and the third ball-handler, as well.

I see him averaging something like 18/8/6 this year.. Iguodala numbers. But again, I'm one of his biggest fans.

[Jasper]

@Chris_Broussard: 3 yrs $27 million Lance to Charlotte, "@rick_bonnell: The Charlotte Hornets will sign Lance Stephenson, the Observer has learned."
great move by hornets , they have a disapline coach , and MJ will mentor him to beinga defensive genius, and an arsonal of an offensive player.

I expect him to have a great year.

[East_Stone_Ya]

http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4763770/lance_hornet_medium.png


:lol

[QuebecBaller]

http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4763770/lance_hornet_medium.png

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[veilside23]

good signing for the hornets ... good option for lance as well in 2 years time he might get the money he asked for .. if he can bring this hornets team to the ECF ... he will get paid without a doubt.