So when the Heat suck this year...

[JT123]

How many Lebron haters are gonna try to blame it on the loss of James Jones, a dude who never even played. :lol
When Cleveland epically sucked after Bron's departure Bron haters were trying to say it wasn't only cause they lost Lebron, but because they also lost a washed up Shaq and Big Z! :facepalm
I see history repeating itself this year once it becomes apparent the Heat will struggle to win 40 games. "But...but they didn't just lose Lebron, they lost Battier and James Jones too!" :roll: :roll: :roll:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Honestly, Miami won't even make the playoffs :lol :oldlol:

[DaSeba5]

Why are we going to suck?

[oh the horror]

Why are we going to suck?



They're not going to suck. These dudes are idiots.

[Flush]

When Bosh is going to drop 25/10 you all haters gonna suck it up.

[OnFire]

Well the Heat will win more than double the games the Cavs won the year after LeBron left so your thread is fail. Go get attention somewhere else.

It'll be more like the 93-94 Bulls because we aren't a bunch of crying, quitter, losers.

[Orlando Magic]

Depends entirely on Wade. If he's struggling most of the year, they will struggle to win mid 40s. If he's really hurting, they're going to struggle to win 40 games. They aren't winning 50 unless Wade is 100% healthy and contributing to the most of his all time abilities.

[JT123]

Why are we going to suck?
1. Your best player is broken down and can't take over games anymore. He can take over quarters and sometimes even an entire half, but his days of dominating on a consistent basis are long gone.
2. Bosh is still a softy who can't defend decent bigs, and you guys gave him 120 million! :lol In the words of my dad, "If Bosh isn't hitting his jumpers what good is he?" He's not shutting down the paint, he's not rebounding, and he's not putting opposing bigs in foul trouble. :confusedshrug:
3. Mario Chalmers is still your best point guard. Nuff said

You are forgetting just how flawed your team is, and how many of those flaws Lebron was able to cover up the last 4 years.

[305Baller]

Lets see what Bosh and Wade can do.

You bitches laugh all you want but Cleveland has no proven playoff performers and Kyries a chucker.

[Roundball_Rock]

How many Lebron haters are gonna try to blame it on the loss of James Jones, a dude who never even played. :lol
When Cleveland epically sucked after Bron's departure Bron haters were trying to say it wasn't only cause they lost Lebron, but because they also lost a washed up Shaq and Big Z! :facepalm
I see history repeating itself this year once it becomes apparent the Heat will struggle to win 40 games. "But...but they didn't just lose Lebron, they lost Battier and James Jones too!" :roll: :roll: :roll:

:lol great point. The Cavs went from 61 wins to 19 and these guys were out here citing washed up Shaq and Big Z.

The Heat likely will finish 4th-6th in the East, which would be a disappointment for a team with 2 superstars (the only East team with multiple superstars) and 3 all-stars (Deng).

Side note: LeBron went 6-0 in Miami when Bosh and Wade did not play. Let's see what they can do without him.

[Orlando Magic]

Lets see what Bosh and Wade can do.

You bitches laugh all you want but Cleveland has no proven playoff performers and Kyries a chucker.

Well... the Cavs aren't going to suddenly be as good as last year's Heat... don't see that happening.

However, the Cavs this year will be better than the Heat this year unless LeBron has season ending in jury. Bank on it.

[navy]

Id rather not Heat threads become a battle ground for Lebron stans and Lebron haters to further dumb agendas.

[TheMarkMadsen]

1. Your best player is broken down and can't take over games anymore. He can take over quarters and sometimes even an entire half, but his days of dominating on a consistent basis are long gone.
2. Bosh is still a softy who can't defend decent bigs, and you guys gave him 120 million! :lol In the words of my dad, "If Bosh isn't hitting his jumpers what good is he?" He's not shutting down the paint, he's not rebounding, and he's not putting opposing bigs in foul trouble. :confusedshrug:
3. Mario Chalmers is still your best point guard. Nuff said

You are forgetting just how flawed your team is, and how many of those flaws Lebron was able to cover up the last 4 years.

So in other words the whole family are a bunch of bandwagoners who began watching basketball in 2011.

[OnFire]

Well... the Cavs aren't going to suddenly be as good as last year's Heat... don't see that happening.

However, the Cavs this year will be better than the Heat this year unless LeBron has season ending in jury. Bank on it.

lol you worry about the Magic and that big Luke signing :cheers:

[305Baller]

Well... the Cavs aren't going to suddenly be as good as last year's Heat... don't see that happening.

However, the Cavs this year will be better than the Heat this year unless LeBron has season ending in jury. Bank on it.

Thats probable but not a given. We will see. I f Kyrie becomes better than he is Cavs will def be better but they need to make that trade for Love. Right now they are not obviously better.

[Orlando Magic]

lol you worry about the Magic and that big Luke signing :cheers:

I'm not trying to be insulting... I'm just telling you how it is.

The Magic are going to continue to struggle to win games. What's the relevance of the Magic as it pertains to this thread? Don't get upset when people point out stuff that is in all probability going to be a reality.

Happy now? *shrugs* lol...

[JT123]

Depends entirely on Wade. If he's struggling most of the year, they will struggle to win mid 40s. If he's really hurting, they're going to struggle to win 40 games. They aren't winning 50 unless Wade is 100% healthy and contributing to the most of his all time abilities.
That's the thing, what makes anyone who has watched Wade the last 3 years think he has any chance of staying 100 percent healthy for an entire 82 game season? :wtf:
They let him take half of this past season off, and he STILL managed to rack up injuries! The elephant in the room that all Heat fans wanna ignore is that Wade was NOT hurt during the Finals, he just sucked. As I said, Wade can no longer take over on a consistent basis. He will have a few vintage games next season, but they will be far and few between, especially seeing as how he won't be single covered anymore like he was when he had Lebron beside him.

[OnFire]

I'm not trying to be insulting... I'm just telling you how it is.

The Magic are going to continue to struggle to win games. What's the relevance of the Magic as it pertains to this thread? Don't get upset when people point out stuff that is in all probability going to be a reality.

Happy now? *shrugs* lol...

Yes please give a magic report anytime before criticizing the heat lol

I was just friendly jabbing because you pretty much summed up a fair assessment except I'd lean towards the other outcome.

:cheers:

[305Baller]

That's the thing, what makes anyone who has watched Wade the last 3 years think he has any chance of staying 100 percent healthy for an entire 82 game season? :wtf:
They let him take half of this past season off, and he STILL managed to rack up injuries! The elephant in the room that all Heat fans wanna ignore is that Wade was NOT hurt during the Finals, he just sucked. As I said, Wade can no longer take over on a consistent basis. He will have a few vintage games next season, but they will be far and few between, especially seeing as how he won't be single covered anymore like he was when he had Lebron beside him.

yeah, thats a big issue. Maybe James Ennis can provide some spacing if he gets it going. This will have to be team ball ala SPURS

[Orlando Magic]

That's the thing, what makes anyone who has watched Wade the last 3 years think he has any chance of staying 100 percent healthy for an entire 82 game season? :wtf:
They let him take half of this past season off, and he STILL managed to rack up injuries! The elephant in the room that all Heat fans wanna ignore is that Wade was NOT hurt during the Finals, he just sucked. As I said, Wade can no longer take over on a consistent basis. He will have a few vintage games next season, but they will be far and few between, especially seeing as how he won't be single covered anymore like he was when he had Lebron beside him.

I don't disagree... I was simply stating if... because any of those things could happen.

I see the Heat winning around 40 games myself, give or take a few.

[DMAVS41]

the Heat will not suck.

they will win around 48 to 50 games in the shitty East...and then if they are healthy in the playoffs they will be as good as anyone they play other than the Bulls.

LOL

[Skyscraper]

That's the thing, what makes anyone who has watched Wade the last 3 years think he has any chance of staying 100 percent healthy for an entire 82 game season? :wtf:
They let him take half of this past season off, and he STILL managed to rack up injuries! The elephant in the room that all Heat fans wanna ignore is that Wade was NOT hurt during the Finals, he just sucked. As I said, Wade can no longer take over on a consistent basis. He will have a few vintage games next season, but they will be far and few between, especially seeing as how he won't be single covered anymore like he was when he had Lebron beside him.


precisely

there were (painful) times in which Wade was still trying to do things he could do in 2006-2010 but no more these days

for instance his painful lack of vertical when something as simple as fighting for a rebound

his lack of explosiveness compared to his Flash days earlier on

and so on so forth.

[DaSeba5]

It's sad how fast many of you turned on the Heat. Bran stans have no shame.

[Orlando Magic]

It's sad how fast many of you turned on the Heat. Bran stans have no shame.

Some of these people are irrationally hating on the Heat but there's also some people irrationally defending the Heat. It's going both ways, with few posters in the middle, which tends to be reality.

In my not so humble opinion, LeBron impacts the game even more than people realize, and I think that will finally sink in with people based on the results Heat put up this year unless Wade makes an improbable and miraculous comeback.

[OnFire]

My only point, as my Orlando Magic friend draws my attention back to focus on this thread, is that the Heat have just a good a chance of anyone else in the East this year so the OP won't see anyone even having this theoretical discussion he is expecting.

Why? Because the Heat have just a chance as anyone else to compete, and the Cavs did what clevelanders and their teams do, curl up and cry.

[JT123]

So in other words the whole family are a bunch of bandwagoners who began watching basketball in 2011.
Just days ago Bosh went on record and said the old him is NEVER coming back! Sorry to disappoint you, but Bosh the jump shooter is here to stay.

[305Baller]

Just days ago Bosh went on record and said the old him is NEVER coming back! Sorry to disappoint you, but Bosh the jump shooter is here to stay.

Bosh wants to be "Black Dirk" now.

[Roundball_Rock]

A "healthy" Wade is kind of like a "healthy" Michael Vick...it just is not happening. These guys inevitably will miss time.

Games played by Wade:

2014: 54 of 82
2013: 69 of 82
2012: 49 of 66
2011: 76 of 82
2010: 77 of 82
2009: 79 of 82
2008: 51 of 82
2007: 51 of 82

[OnFire]

A "healthy" Wade is kind of like a "healthy" Michael Vick...it just is not happening. These guys inevitably will miss time.

Games played by Wade:

2014: 54 of 82
2013: 69 of 82
2012: 49 of 66
2011: 76 of 82
2010: 77 of 82
2009: 79 of 82
2008: 51 of 82
2007: 51 of 82

Based on your large sample pattern perhaps we are looking at a couple straight years of 70 games.

[SouBeachTalents]

When Bosh is going to drop 25/10 you all haters gonna suck it up.

He's done this ONCE in his entire career, why do people keep predicting this statline for him?

[305Baller]

He's done this ONCE in his entire career, why do people keep predicting this statline for him?


25/10 is silly. Maybe more like 23/7 ?

[navy]

He's done this ONCE in his entire career, why do people keep predicting this statline for him?
He's never done it.

[kennethgriffin]

Honestly, Miami won't even make the playoffs :lol :oldlol:

Luol Deng
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Michael Beasley
Danny Granger
Josh Mcroberts
Chris Anderson
Norris Cole
Mario Chalmers
Shabazz Napier
James Ennis
Greg Oden
Udonis Haslem

[305Baller]

Luol Deng
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Michael Beasley
Danny Granger
Josh Mcroberts
Chris Anderson
Norris Cole
Mario Chalmers
Shabazz Napier
James Ennis
Greg Oden
Udonis Haslem


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9QjARWd5a84/T3OXHJJbe1I/AAAAAAAAA34/OVtLNvwpMvI/s190/nod-of-approval.gif

[navy]

25/10 is silly. Maybe more like 23/7 ?
For 120 million? 23/9

Although personally I think Wade will be around 23-24 and Bosh 19-21.

[305Baller]

For 120 million? 23/9

Although personally I think Wade will be around 23-24 and Bosh 19-21.

I seriously doubt averages 9 rebounds. Thats just not his game.

Wade will not avg 23 points lol

[JellyBean]

The Heat will make the playoffs as a 3 seed. They will not suck this year.

[navy]

I seriously doubt averages 9 rebounds. Thats just not his game.

Wade will not avg 23 points lol
I know. Why he isnt worth 120 mill

He averaged 19 on 55% shooting last year. :confusedshrug:

[305Baller]

He averaged 19 on 55% shooting last year. :confusedshrug:

Thats on single coverage with LeBron sucking up the defense. I hope he does avg that but dont get your hopes up.

[Roundball_Rock]

Luol Deng
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Michael Beasley
Danny Granger
Josh Mcroberts
Chris Anderson
Norris Cole
Mario Chalmers
Shabazz Napier
James Ennis
Greg Oden
Udonis Haslem


Let's use the LeBron hater logic regarding this roster. The Heat have:

*1 #1 pick
*1 #2 pick
*1 #4 pick
*1 #5 pick (2 if they bring back Ray Allen)
*1 #7 pick

They have 4 players who have been all-stars (5 with Allen). Wow. Stacked! :bowdown:

[kennethgriffin]

A "healthy" Wade is kind of like a "healthy" Michael Vick...it just is not happening. These guys inevitably will miss time.

Games played by Wade:

2014: 54 of 82
2013: 69 of 82
2012: 49 of 66
2011: 76 of 82
2010: 77 of 82
2009: 79 of 82
2008: 51 of 82
2007: 51 of 82

remember shaq in 2003 and 04... and how he transformed health wise in 05 and 06

it was due to him actually giving a f*ck again about his body to prove a point.


wade wasnt in shape the last few years because he was spoiled. now he wants to prove the heat are good without lebron. and he'l be playing at an all nba level again

if shaq can lose 50 pounds in a year. wade can lose 10-15

[kennethgriffin]

Let's use the LeBron hater logic regarding this roster. The Heat have:

*1 #1 pick
*1 #2 pick
*1 #4 pick
*1 #5 pick (2 if they bring back Ray Allen)
*1 #7 pick

They have 4 players who have been all-stars (5 with Allen). Wow. Stacked! :bowdown:


i would murder 5 innocent puppies to get the heat lineup behind kobe for next years lakers

[305Baller]

remember shaq in 2003 and 04... and how he transformed health wise in 05 and 06

it was due to him actually giving a f*ck again about his body to prove a point.


wade wasnt in shape the last few years because he was spoiled. now he wants to prove the heat are good without lebron. and he'l be playing at an all nba level again

if shaq can lose 50 pounds in a year. wade can lose 10-15

Nah. Theres always some kind of offseason storyine with Wade all of a sudden returning to beast-mode. Im rooting for the guy but hes in Manu-stage right now. The whole thing has cried wolf too many times.

[SouBeachTalents]

He's never done it.

He did put up 24/11 in 2010, which is, unless your splitting hairs, the basic equivalent of a 25/10 season. It's amazing to me that people think he's going to start surpassing his Toronto numbers when he's now 30 and still has to share the ball with Wade

[Brokenbeat]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9QjARWd5a84/T3OXHJJbe1I/AAAAAAAAA34/OVtLNvwpMvI/s190/nod-of-approval.gif

:oldlol:

[bluechox2]

what will all the lebran fans do when the heat knock them out of the playoffs?

[Hey Yo]

When Bosh is going to drop 25/10 you all haters gonna suck it up.
He won't see the MPG in order to put up those numbers. His MPG in the reg season and postseason have gone down since his first year in Miami.

If Spo starts giving him more minutes during the reg season, then you can expect him to peter out in the postseason....like D-Fade did.

[305Baller]

He won't see the MPG in order to put up those numbers. His MPG in the reg season and postseason have gone down since his first year in Miami.

If Spo starts giving him more minutes during the reg season, then you can expect him to peter out in the postseason....like D-Fade did.

seems legit

[Dave3]

25/10 is silly. Maybe more like 23/7 ?
I think that's pretty spot on. Maybe 8 or 9 reb even.

[LA Lakers]

Stop with the nonsense. The Heat will not suck this year. Calm down. They dont have the best show in town anymore, but they are still a playoff bound team, by all means.

[Ai2death]

1. Your best player is broken down and can't take over games anymore. He can take over quarters and sometimes even an entire half, but his days of dominating on a consistent basis are long gone.
2. Bosh is still a softy who can't defend decent bigs, and you guys gave him 120 million! :lol In the words of my dad, "If Bosh isn't hitting his jumpers what good is he?" He's not shutting down the paint, he's not rebounding, and he's not putting opposing bigs in foul trouble. :confusedshrug:
3. Mario Chalmers is still your best point guard. Nuff said

You are forgetting just how flawed your team is, and how many of those flaws Lebron was able to cover up the last 4 years.

Weren't you a Heat fan?

[Soundwave]

I suspect we'll see these numbers for the Miami squad

21/6 ast/4 rpg for Wade

19/8 rpg for Bosh

14 ppg/3.5 apg for Deng


Good enough to be a solid squad. If Riley can add one more good piece at the deadline they'll be ok.

[Human Error]

what will all the lebran fans do when the heat knock them out of the playoffs?
:facepalm

[edrick]

:oldlol:

[nba_55]

the Heat will not suck.

they will win around 48 to 50 games in the shitty East...and then if they are healthy in the playoffs they will be as good as anyone they play other than the Bulls.

LOL

ISH expert!:oldlol: :oldlol:

[nba_55]

When Bosh is going to drop 25/10 you all haters gonna suck it up.
tell us more!

[HOoopCityJones]

Weren't you a Heat fan?
what a loser

[Lebronxrings]

what will all the lebran fans do when the heat knock them out of the playoffs?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[chosen_one6]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: