New Phil Jackson book: "Dwight left because of Kobe"

[Cocaine80s]

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/17/phil-jackson-says-in-book-update-dwight-howard-left-lakers-because-of-kobe-new-cba-hurts-team-continuity/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

The Lakers invited Kobe and Steve (Nash) to the final pitch meeting to help persuade Dwight to come on board. It sounded like a good idea. Steve sent out an amusing tweet before the meeting:

[SexSymbol]

So that just means that Dwight's a bitch who doesn't value winning.
Good riddance

[sportjames23]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mahgtrd0UI1rx2tkjo1_500.gif

[Springsteen]

So that just means that Dwight's a bitch who doesn't value winning.
Good riddance

Riiiight. As much as I hate the current Rockets, if I was Dwight I'd rather be playing with them for a championship rather than wasting my talents on a rebuilding team.

If you were a star player who never won a ring; would you rather play with the dogsh*t the Lakers put out last season in hopes that they one day would be competitive, or an actual team ready to contend?

[East_Stone_Ya]

[QUOTE] Instead we

[russwest0]

speaking the truth :applause:

sounds like the thunder :applause:

they'll be champs next year if healthy, zero doubt in my mind.

[Dragic4Life]

sounds like the thunder :applause:

they'll be champs next year if healthy, zero doubt in my mind.
:rolleyes:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Fright Coward shouldve stayed in the East
2 straight 1st round exits without Kobe

hes a loser like Pau was before Kobe changed him into a champion and perennial HOF

[Artillery]

sounds like the thunder :applause:

they'll be champs next year if healthy, zero doubt in my mind.

:oldlol: Needed the refs and a Zbo suspensions to beat the Grizzlies in the first round

[Dragic4Life]

:oldlol: Needed the refs and a Zbo suspensions to beat the Grizzlies in the first round
:roll:

[Artillery]

Fright Coward shouldve stayed in the East
2 straight 1st round exits without Kobe

hes a loser like Pau was before Kobe changed him into a champion and perennial HOF

Kobe never made anyone better. Phil was the one that made Pau a great player. No coincidence that Pau's decline coincides with Phil leaving the Lakers.

[buddha]

Dwight's an idiot. He left one selfish chucker to go play with an inferior selfish chucker. But, we already knew he was stupid. #Freepalestine

[chosen_one6]

Dwight's an idiot. He left one selfish chucker to go play with an inferior selfish chucker. But, we already knew he was stupid. #Freepalestine

As a team the Rockets have a better chance of winning something in the next few years than he would have had with a fading star that thinks he's 25 and not 35 and the rest of the trash that was and now is on that team.

[SexSymbol]

Riiiight. As much as I hate the current Rockets, if I was Dwight I'd rather be playing with them for a championship rather than wasting my talents on a rebuilding team.

If you were a star player who never won a ring; would you rather play with the dogsh*t the Lakers put out last season in hopes that they one day would be competitive, or an actual team ready to contend?
I'd rather be with the Lakers.
Being a star player with the lakers usually means a 30-50 million dollar income every year, I ain't passing that up, especially when I know that somehow someway Lakers always get it done

[buddha]

As a team the Rockets have a better chance of winning something in the next few years than he would have had with a fading star that thinks he's 25 and not 35 and the rest of the trash that was and now is on that team.

lol, yeah, sure.

[TMacYaoRockets]

Kobe never made anyone better. Phil was the one that made Pau a great player. No coincidence that Pau's decline coincides with Phil leaving the Lakers.
Pau sucked in 2011 with Phil coaching.

[chosen_one6]

lol, yeah, sure.

The Lakers last year were garbage. It would have been that way with or without Kobe.

You're telling me the Lakers roster this year is going to have a better record and go further than the Rockets will? :oldlol:

[buddha]

The Lakers last year were garbage. It would have been that way with or without Kobe.

You're telling me the Lakers roster this year is going to have a better record and go further than the Rockets will? :oldlol:

if the Lakers had Dwight Howard, yes.

[Real14]

Why do u think people call him dfight? Gotta be a reason right??:confusedshrug:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Kobe never made anyone better. Phil was the one that made Pau a great player. No coincidence that Pau's decline coincides with Phil leaving the Lakers.
What happened in 2011? Pau was @zz
he just got old thats it. Phil didnt make him any better than he was in Memphis it was Kobes high low game with him that allowed him to flourish. He needed that alpha first option to take the pressure and defense off him which Kobe provided in spades

[russwest0]

Okay so a beta left because the team alpha planned on staying for a while

we saw LeBron do the same shit just a week or two ago, whats the big deal?

[East_Stone_Ya]

#Freepalestine

lol

[sportjames23]

Okay so a beta left because the team alpha planned on staying for a while

we saw LeBron do the same shit just a week or two ago, whats the big deal?

:oldlol:

[GimmeThat]

[QUOTE=Cocaine80s]And Kobe made a moving speech during the pitch, promising to teach Dwight the secret of winning championships that he

[Doranku]

Gotta love the irony. What Dwight feared would happen in LA with Kobe happened the very next year in Houston with Harden. :oldlol:

[3LiftHeatCurse]

So that just means that Dwight's a bitch who doesn't value winning.
Good riddance


Dwight didn't want to be a glorified rebounder for Kobe.

If you're a Laker fan, you should know all about that since Kobe pushed Shaq out. Did you say Kobe didn't care about winning then?

[JellyBean]

This is just gives me more proof that Dwight was a diva and can not handle pressure. I am glad that he is not with the Lakers anymore. Be the Rockets headache.

[coin24]

:lol :lol suck shit dwight, you wanted to be the man of your own team, look how that's turning out:oldlol:

[Nick Young]

Dwight Coward got scared when he saw what it takes to become a winner, and so runs away to Houston to team up with fellow Natural Born Loser Harden.

Thanks GOAT coach Phil for confirming what I already knew:applause:

I love being right.

[Nick Young]

Riiiight. As much as I hate the current Rockets, if I was Dwight I'd rather be playing with them for a championship rather than wasting my talents on a rebuilding team.

If you were a star player who never won a ring; would you rather play with the dogsh*t the Lakers put out last season in hopes that they one day would be competitive, or an actual team ready to contend?
For the Rockets, getting out off the first round is the equivalent of Championship. That franchise is not going to be sniffing the finals any time soon, let alone the second round:lol

[Nick Young]

Kobe never made anyone better. Phil was the one that made Pau a great player. No coincidence that Pau's decline coincides with Phil leaving the Lakers.
Pau didnt win a single playoff game before teaming up with Kobe, and it's not like Pau had shit teammates in Memphis.

[Nick Young]

Why do u think people call him dfight? Gotta be a reason right??:confusedshrug:
Dwight "The Coward" Howard

[Nick Young]

Gotta love the irony. What Dwight feared would happen in LA with Kobe happened the very next year in Houston with Harden. :oldlol:
Justice. God is a Laker fan.:rockon:

[STATUTORY]

dwight sounding like the straight up punk ass smiling clown fakkit bitch we all recognized him to be

dwight being dwight

[Nick Young]

#freepalestine


so glad we don't have to deal with this overgrown retard choke artist any longer. Have fun with max contract Dwight Coward Houston fans:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ImKobe]

Dwight is a mental midget. He knew he would never be alpha status on a Kobe-led team. He switched teams so he could be the "leader" and it still led to a 1st round exit.

[Orlando Magic]

Lakers fans... you only put up with him for one year. I don't think you're really that mad at him... you're mad at something else. You should be glad he's gone and not saying such vile things...

I'm glad he's gone from Orlando. He was a great player and our '09 squad was great to watch but he ended up turning into a cancer as his ego grew and grew yet was unable to recognize that he should not be the focal point on offense 100% of the time. It continued in LA... it seems to have calmed a bit now though but I don't keep up with the Rockets. Is that the case?

I'd hate to see how you guys would react if he were there for like 8 years lol.

Also... how can you all say he's a choker, a crybaby, choker with no post moves, etc... and then continue the "LA steals star players from Orlando" running joke? By your own comments surrounding Dwight... Essentially, you've only ever taken one good player from us... Shaq. I'd hardly constitute that as a trend. Also I know this will rustle your jimmies even though that wasn't my intention... a lot of you consciously decide to get upset. Have fun ripping me while I leave for the rest of the day.

[rezznor]

:lol :lol suck shit dwight, you wanted to be the man of your own team, look how that's turning out:oldlol:

better record then the lakers last year, will have a better record then the lakers again this year. :oldlol:

[coin24]

better record then the lakers last year, will have a better record then the lakers again this year. :oldlol:

First round exit:lol

Dat mediocrity

[pastis]

so dwightalina is officially a pvssy. she doesnt know anything about winning but didnt like that kobe wants come back for a couple of years after the injury? lol. how stupid and disrespectful she is. she can join ERICkA right there in the wnba

[GimmeThat]

Lakers fans... you only put up with him for one year. I don't think you're really that mad at him... you're mad at something else. You should be glad he's gone and not saying such vile things...

I'm glad he's gone from Orlando. He was a great player and our '09 squad was great to watch but he ended up turning into a cancer as his ego grew and grew yet was unable to recognize that he should not be the focal point on offense 100% of the time. It continued in LA... it seems to have calmed a bit now though but I don't keep up with the Rockets. Is that the case?

I'd hate to see how you guys would react if he were there for like 8 years lol.

Also... how can you all say he's a choker, a crybaby, choker with no post moves, etc... and then continue the "LA steals star players from Orlando" running joke? By your own comments surrounding Dwight... Essentially, you've only ever taken one good player from us... Shaq. I'd hardly constitute that as a trend. Also I know this will rustle your jimmies even though that wasn't my intention... a lot of you consciously decide to get upset. Have fun ripping me while I leave for the rest of the day.

I guess they were just mad at the fact that he had such a big ego, and he decided to utilize it by saying "I'm going to Houston to win on my own"

When it's sort of close to the same as staying with the Magic. Although it is fair for him to have the Rockets over the Magic as an organization for reasons we don't know.

I guess the Lakers were unsure as to how having a big ego for success, would equate to organizations having patient with him instead of the other way around.

[SexSymbol]

better record then the lakers last year, will have a better record then the lakers again this year. :oldlol:
5>0
forever.

[Nick Young]

Lakers fans... you only put up with him for one year. I don't think you're really that mad at him... you're mad at something else. You should be glad he's gone and not saying such vile things...

I'm glad he's gone from Orlando. He was a great player and our '09 squad was great to watch but he ended up turning into a cancer as his ego grew and grew yet was unable to recognize that he should not be the focal point on offense 100% of the time. It continued in LA... it seems to have calmed a bit now though but I don't keep up with the Rockets. Is that the case?

I'd hate to see how you guys would react if he were there for like 8 years lol.

Also... how can you all say he's a choker, a crybaby, choker with no post moves, etc... and then continue the "LA steals star players from Orlando" running joke? By your own comments surrounding Dwight... Essentially, you've only ever taken one good player from us... Shaq. I'd hardly constitute that as a trend. Also I know this will rustle your jimmies even though that wasn't my intention... a lot of you consciously decide to get upset. Have fun ripping me while I leave for the rest of the day.
We also took Ariza from you dawg. ORL is the LAL farm team. We coming for Vucevic next XD


dawg, myself and many other Laker fans didnt want this choke artist in purple and gold. We made our judgement on him based on his mentally weak 2009 performance. If anything he has gotten much worse since 2009. Atleast you got to witness The Coward in his prime years.

I am glad this scrub is gone, and I enjoy mocking this mentally weak scrub for saying shit like "I want to be on a contender" and then going to Houston to team with 6th Man of the Year James Harden as the best player:roll:

And it's even funnier now that Houston blew up after yet another first round exit and The Coward is stuck there to lead his team to first round exits for the rest of his career XD

[Nick Young]

better record then the lakers last year, will have a better record then the lakers again this year. :oldlol:
First round exit and #18 draft pick every year until he retires:oldlol:

[Jailblazers7]

How many books does Pjax have? It seems like we are talking about some controversial passage from his new book every year.

[rezznor]

First round exit and #18 draft pick every year until he retires:oldlol:
missing the playoffs until Kobe retires :rockon:

[Y2ktors]

Dwight's an idiot. He left one selfish chucker to go play with an inferior selfish chucker. But, we already knew he was stupid. #Freepalestine
I wouldn't call Harden Selfish. But he's definitely the top option on offense.

[ZeN]

Kobe never made anyone better. Phil was the one that made Pau a great player. No coincidence that Pau's decline coincides with Phil leaving the Lakers.
Pau started declining at the start of 2011.. One full season before Phil left.

[ZeN]

How many books does Pjax have? It seems like we are talking about some controversial passage from his new book every year.
Phil understands that scandal and sensationalism sells. So he twist his words into notions that seem goosipy so people will want to read his books. No different than rag mags.

[ILLsmak]

[QUOTE=Cocaine80s]http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/17/phil-jackson-says-in-book-update-dwight-howard-left-lakers-because-of-kobe-new-cba-hurts-team-continuity/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

The Lakers invited Kobe and Steve (Nash) to the final pitch meeting to help persuade Dwight to come on board. It sounded like a good idea. Steve sent out an amusing tweet before the meeting:

[Hey Yo]

Dwight would have been better off staying in LA.....the Rockets are now on the decline, doesn't seem like anyone wants to play there.
Didn't Trevor Ariza just take less money to sign with Houston?

[G.O.A.T]

I thought this was common knowledge.

Kobe is a prickly pear, he wants to win, he has no sense of reality and the most out of you. It's why he didn't respect Shaq at the end. He works harder and expects you to do the same. Dwight likes the simple bear necessities, he'd rather laugh than scowl, Kobe scowls when he laughs. So Dwight wanted to play in run and gun Houston with equally lax James Harden.

Howard could be great, for a few years, seemingly on accident now, he was one of the best five players in the NBA, now he's a guy we begrudgingly admit is the best center but can't wait to find a replacement for.

I love Kobe the player, but Kobe the person gets in the way a lot. He needed to be diplomatic and understand that in the long run he could use Howard to serve purpose. He's not getting better player than D12 to come there and play second to an ego bigger than the Staples Center.

[miggyme1]

I thought this was common knowledge.

Kobe is a prickly pear, he wants to win, he has no sense of reality and the most out of you. It's why he didn't respect Shaq at the end. He works harder and expects you to do the same. Dwight likes the simple bear necessities, he'd rather laugh than scowl, Kobe scowls when he laughs. So Dwight wanted to play in run and gun Houston with equally lax James Harden.

Howard could be great, for a few years, seemingly on accident now, he was one of the best five players in the NBA, now he's a guy we begrudgingly admit is the best center but can't wait to find a replacement for.

I love Kobe the player, but Kobe the person gets in the way a lot. He needed to be diplomatic and understand that in the long run he could use Howard to serve purpose. He's not getting better player than D12 to come there and play second to an ego bigger than the Staples Center.


yea i knew from the start it was gonna be tough for howard and kobe to get along. a no nonsense guy never gets along with the happy go lucky guy...dwight is goofier than shaq..at least shaq backed his goofiness up on game days tho. if i were the lakers id keep a close eye on damarcus cousins....i know for a fact he would love playing for the lakers.

[ZeN]

Didn't Trevor Ariza just take less money to sign with Houston?
Nope he took the exact amount that Ron Artest took. Trevors agent was trying to play hardball and Lakers just signed Artest.

[iamgine]

Old ass kobe and his crippling salary for 4 more seasons? Anyone wanting to win would've split.