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MJ(Mean John)
07-19-2014, 09:52 PM
Bledsoe to LA for Randle+ JChill.

Damn. It's a rumor on LakersNation.


Not sure how I feel about that.
Like Randle and Bledsoe has knee problems

brandonislegend
07-19-2014, 09:53 PM
Jim Buss is a moron. That is all. He could trade Nash for Durant and I would still think that.

dreamwarrior
07-19-2014, 09:55 PM
They just signed Randle so how can they trade him before 30 days

Jameerthefear
07-19-2014, 09:55 PM
Topkek.
Lakers are a joke :oldlol:

TheMarkMadsen
07-19-2014, 09:55 PM
Giving up Juice & Hill sounds like a lot to give up. That's basically our entire front court.

Plus we already have Lin on rental this year + Nash's god awful contract.

JohnFreeman
07-19-2014, 09:57 PM
Why?

Smook A.
07-19-2014, 09:58 PM
Then what the hell did they get Lin for?

You know he's gonna be pretty pissed if he starts the season on the bench. Lin fans are going to destory LakersGround

CelticBaller
07-19-2014, 09:59 PM
Get it done Mitch :applause:

Johnny Jones
07-19-2014, 09:59 PM
Then what the hell did they get Lin for?

You know he's gonna be pretty pissed if he starts the season on the bench. Lin fans are going to destory LakersGround
$$$

no pun intended
07-19-2014, 09:59 PM
How about Nash instead of Jordan Hill?

TheMarkMadsen
07-19-2014, 10:00 PM
A better deal would be Hill + Lin.

That way Phoenix can get rid of both those guys next year if they don't want them while still being a competitive team this year.

Plus they could always decide to hang on to Hill for another year while clearing 15 mill off the books with Lin.

I really would like hill to stay tho.

How about just Lin.

Jameerthefear
07-19-2014, 10:01 PM
Then what the hell did they get Lin for?

You know he's gonna be pretty pissed if he starts the season on the bench. Lin fans are going to destory LakersGround
bcuz rockets needed cap room and gave away a pick. they are just taking on his contract.

NZStreetBaller
07-19-2014, 10:04 PM
send nash back FFS hes a cripple and even when hes good to play. he's just a defensive cancer...... hes only here for the money

Cocaine80s
07-19-2014, 10:04 PM
Is Blesdoe that underrated here?

nig*as actually saying Hill+Lin for him? :roll:

NZStreetBaller
07-19-2014, 10:06 PM
Dont lose randle. the good thing about this kid is he WANTS to be a laker. that kind of mentality (will work hard for his team instead of thinking of other options all the time) makes a player put in alot more effort for a team. see:duncan ginobilli parker

outbreak
07-19-2014, 10:07 PM
Is Blesdoe that underrated here?

nig*as actually saying Hill+Lin for him? :roll:
Isn't it a sign and trade? They will get nothing for him if they let him walk and he has to agree to sign for the deal to happen so they don't have leverage?

TheMarkMadsen
07-19-2014, 10:08 PM
Is Blesdoe that underrated here?

nig*as actually saying Hill+Lin for him? :roll:

Do you realize the entire reason Phoenix would even consider trading him is because they have decided they don't want to give him the max.. So why would any team try too hard to accommodate them..

But I'm sure you don't, because judging by most of your post you're a moron.

Combat Wombat
07-19-2014, 10:08 PM
As much as I like Bledsoe's game, Lakers would give up too much. Almost our entire frontcourt (that includes a potential star) and a first rounder? Thanks but no thanks.

If we offer Hill+Lin+1st then maybe although I doubt the Suns take it.

Cocaine80s
07-19-2014, 10:09 PM
Do you realize the entire reason Phoenix would even consider trading him is because they have decided they don't want to give him the max.. So why would any team try too hard to accommodate them..

But I'm sure you don't, because judging by most of your post you're a moron.
no ur a moron

TheMarkMadsen
07-19-2014, 10:10 PM
no ur a moron

Okay.

nevetslc88
07-19-2014, 10:17 PM
Mark Willard from ESPNLA is the one that made this up on his radio show.

move along people.

fragokota
07-19-2014, 10:18 PM
Jim Buss is a moron. That is all. He could trade Nash for Durant and I would still think that.
:lol

fragokota
07-19-2014, 10:21 PM
Giving up Juice & Hill sounds like a lot to give up. That's basically our entire front court.

Plus we already have Lin on rental this year + Nash's god awful contract.

Oh the irony,when you're rockin that avy and meanwhile Dirk just left all those millions on the table...

coin24
07-19-2014, 10:21 PM
Complete bs rumor..

Really need to get rid of Nash though:lol

hawkfan
07-19-2014, 10:22 PM
Move Kobe to small forward, then Bledsoe and Lin start together.
Young as sixth man.

Magic731
07-19-2014, 10:23 PM
no ur a moron
Brilliant argument. Accept you were wrong and move on.

If Lakers don't have to give up Randle they should get a deal done. However no way would I be giving up Randle for him.

dazzer87
07-19-2014, 10:33 PM
Wow if Lakers pull this off that will be great..:rockon: :applause:

TheMarkMadsen
07-19-2014, 10:33 PM
Oh the irony,when you're rockin that avy and meanwhile Dirk just left all those millions on the table...

What irony?

Kobe has brought 5 championships and 7 finals appearances to my favorite team. Kobe was offered the contract by the lakers.

Steve Nash has done nothing for my favorite team.

Kobe is working hard to get back to 100% and still believes he can be an all nba player like he was last time he was healthy.

While Steve Nash has admitted that he will never be close to what he was, that he's more or less done playing professional basketball and is only coming back to get paid

D-Rose
07-19-2014, 10:35 PM
Randle can't be traded until August 13th...

Also, it's just a rumor. Not a report by anyone verifiable/trusted.

Akrazotile
07-19-2014, 10:36 PM
A better deal would be Hill + Lin.

That way Phoenix can get rid of both those guys next year if they don't want them while still being a competitive team this year.

Plus they could always decide to hang on to Hill for another year while clearing 15 mill off the books with Lin.

I really would like hill to stay tho.

How about just Lin.



:facepalm


OBVIOUSLY thats a better deal for the Lakers.

Not for the Suns :facepalm

TheMarkMadsen
07-19-2014, 10:48 PM
:facepalm


OBVIOUSLY thats a better deal for the Lakers.

Not for the Suns :facepalm

It's either that or the suns get nothing in return you fcking moron

Akrazotile
07-19-2014, 10:50 PM
It's either that or the suns get nothing in return you fcking moron



:facepalm They have an entire year to trade him

Nash
07-19-2014, 10:52 PM
who is Jchill?

Cocaine80s
07-19-2014, 10:55 PM
It's either that or the suns get nothing in return you fcking moron
Lol then why is Minnesota asking for so much with Love? They have another year u dipshit


Edit: I will take my L

(e)
07-19-2014, 11:07 PM
They have an entire year to trade him

Lol then why is Minnesota asking for so much with Love? They have another year u dipshit
Eric Bledsoe is a RFA right now! Suns have already made it clear they won't give him the max, so not a very good chance of them matching a deal higher than what they offered him. They don't have a whole year to trade him - he's gone.

What does Love have to do with Bledsoe? And how are they asking so much? Wiggins or Klay Thompson? Seems like a rip off to me.

If Suns don't want to give Bledsoe the max, better off to just trade him and get something in return. Getting a guy like Jordan Hill would provide them a big man to replace what they lost in Frye. If they were somehow able to get Julius Randle, you take that and run.

TheMarkMadsen
07-19-2014, 11:08 PM
:facepalm They have an entire year to trade him


No they don't you fcking moron.

:roll: :oldlol:

LA_Showtime
07-19-2014, 11:14 PM
Wow let's hope not. Jesus Christ the only thing we have going for us right now is cap space and a talented young prospect in Randal. Let's get rid of both of those and **** ourselves over!

Rekindled
07-20-2014, 12:15 AM
lakers had the capspace to sign bledsoe to a max but they used it all on scrubs like hill, boozer , nick young and other bench warmers. mitch needs to be fired right away if this rumor is true( not likely)

gts
07-20-2014, 01:23 AM
Bledsoe to LA for Randle+ JChill.

Damn. It's a rumor on LakersNation.


Not sure how I feel about that.
Like Randle and Bledsoe has knee problems


Lakers sources have told guys like Pincus and Mcten there is zero truth to these rumors

roffie
07-20-2014, 01:29 AM
highly doubt they wud trade randle..

i wud keep him TBH

The-Legend-24
07-20-2014, 01:56 AM
Why hasn't Jim Buss been shot yet?

Akrazotile
07-20-2014, 02:09 AM
Eric Bledsoe is a RFA right now! Suns have already made it clear they won't give him the max, so not a very good chance of them matching a deal higher than what they offered him. They don't have a whole year to trade him - he's gone.



Saying they wont offer him the max doesnt mean anything as of right now. They could still choose to match regardless of what is 'said' now and either keep him or trade him during the season. Moreover, there is no guarantee of a max deal from someone else. Its possible but not a lock, and he could wind up taking the QO and returning this year to be unrestricted next year.


In any event, RIGHT NOW phoenix has all the cards. They have a year to trade him IF THEY CHOOSE. Either he takes the QO or they sign and trade. Perhaps they WILL do it sooner than later but they dont HAVE TO. They have a year.

Akrazotile
07-20-2014, 02:09 AM
No they don't you fcking moron.

:roll: :oldlol:


:facepalm

ImKobe
07-20-2014, 02:33 AM
Would make more sense if it was Hill + Nash + the 1st round pick we got from Houston

Nash gets to retire in Phoenix
Hill is a solid contributor
and the pick is to sweeten the deal, of course.

TheMarkMadsen
07-20-2014, 02:47 AM
:facepalm

They either have to sign him to a new contract, or let him walk.

How do you not understand this.

disel
07-20-2014, 03:17 AM
Back to the bench lin where ya scrubby ass belongs . Jeremy rin where scrubsanity happens.

imnew09
07-20-2014, 03:52 AM
Fken rumors, fk this. No. please don't.

livingby3's
07-20-2014, 04:16 AM
who is Jchill?

Lol yeah when I first read this I was thinking about Josh Childress

MJ(Mean John)
07-20-2014, 04:30 AM
Lol yeah when I first read this I was thinking about Josh Childress


Jordan Hill Fekkits. Everyone got this.

OBVIOUSLY I'm talking about the Lakers.
And they have a guy named Jordan Hill, who is referred to as JHILL and his nick name is JChill. You're telling me, you Intelligent ISH posters couldn't put 2+2 together ???? C'mon now.

MJ(Mean John)
07-20-2014, 04:33 AM
They either have to sign him to a new contract, or let him walk.

How do you not understand this.

Lol. My man Akrazotile just does not understand this. Lol.

He's a RFA. They either sign him, match an offer sheet, sign and trade him OR let em walk. They don't have "1 year" to trade him. His contract is up.

If you're talking they sign him or match, then decide to trade him then they don't only have 1 year, they have the duration of his contract to trade him. C'mon son.

qrich
07-20-2014, 05:03 AM
Why would the Suns even come close to considering this? I'm a fan of Randle, but Hill is an energetic rebounding big, I'm sure they can get Evans at a fraction of the cost to ball hawk. A first in the mid 20s, when they were trying to dump their late first this past draft? C'mon now.

Nash + Hill + First :roll:
Lin + Hill + First :roll:

Are you dudes seriously trying to consider anyone that either of those would be a better deal for Phoenix? You do realize that the ball is fully in the Suns court and Bledsoe has little decision on what uniform he will wear next year, and the Lakers have very little leverage, right?

He signs an offer sheet with another squad, Phoenix will match, as it isn't likely that any squad maxes him, and I'm not even sure any still has the cap space to do so that would.

He signs for the QO, gives Phoenix a year to work out a new contract OR put together a trade.

He is signed and traded, Phoenix gets value in return.

He agrees to a new contract to remain in the Valley of the Sun.

Notice how its all advantageous for Phoenix?

MJ(Mean John)
07-20-2014, 05:19 AM
Why would the Suns even come close to considering this? I'm a fan of Randle, but Hill is an energetic rebounding big, I'm sure they can get Evans at a fraction of the cost to ball hawk. A first in the mid 20s, when they were trying to dump their late first this past draft? C'mon now.

Nash + Hill + First :roll:
Lin + Hill + First :roll:

Are you dudes seriously trying to consider anyone that either of those would be a better deal for Phoenix? You do realize that the ball is fully in the Suns court and Bledsoe has little decision on what uniform he will wear next year, and the Lakers have very little leverage, right?

He signs an offer sheet with another squad, Phoenix will match, as it isn't likely that any squad maxes him, and I'm not even sure any still has the cap space to do so that would.

He signs for the QO, gives Phoenix a year to work out a new contract OR put together a trade.

He is signed and traded, Phoenix gets value in return.

He agrees to a new contract to remain in the Valley of the Sun.

Notice how its all advantageous for Phoenix?


Hey smart guy, not saying we made the trade up. It's a rumor.

And as I've seen Randle, a healthy rook with some potential, I just wouldn't eNt to deal him AT THE MOMENT for Bledsoe who JUST came off a knee injury and put up good stats on the suns.

Randle+Hill (decent big who can rebound score, play D on a expiring contract) + a first rounder is good considering you're losing a guy you DIDNT want to keep at a Max contract and thus saw it comming and picked up Thomas as insurance.

So I would say as a sign+trade it's a good deal. Not a steal, but DEF. A offer suns would consider.

qrich
07-20-2014, 05:35 AM
Hey smart guy, not saying we made the trade up. It's a rumor.

And as I've seen Randle, a healthy rook with some potential, I just wouldn't eNt to deal him AT THE MOMENT for Bledsoe who JUST came off a knee injury and put up good stats on the suns.

Randle+Hill (decent big who can rebound score, play D on a expiring contract) + a first rounder is good considering you're losing a guy you DIDNT want to keep at a Max contract and thus saw it comming and picked up Thomas as insurance.

So I would say as a sign+trade it's a good deal. Not a steal, but DEF. A offer suns would consider.

I'm aware it was a rumor, I just think Phoenix could do much better elsewhere, and the rest of the "offers" were horrible, just horrible.

Bledsoe's game transcends looking at statistics. Dude is easily the best defender at the point guard position, and with his strength/athleticism, he can guard most of the starting two guards in the league as well. He attacks the boards like no tomorrow for his position as well.

Like I already said, I'm a big fan of Randle and was shocked he fell below utility guys like Aaron Gordon, who has a MAX ceiling of Andrei Kirilenko, but Hill really isn't a guy of huge value when Phoenix can trade for Reggie Evans and get similar rebounding with a small offensive dip at a fraction of the cost.

I just don't think Phoenix should take a step back, which they would here, as Randle is still 2-3 years away from being a real big contributor, while Bledsoe fits their playoff push needs right away, and is still improving.

MJ(Mean John)
07-20-2014, 05:44 AM
I'm aware it was a rumor, I just think Phoenix could do much better elsewhere, and the rest of the "offers" were horrible, just horrible.

Bledsoe's game transcends looking at statistics. Dude is easily the best defender at the point guard position, and with his strength/athleticism, he can guard most of the starting two guards in the league as well. He attacks the boards like no tomorrow for his position as well.

Like I already said, I'm a big fan of Randle and was shocked he fell below utility guys like Aaron Gordon, who has a MAX ceiling of Andrei Kirilenko, but Hill really isn't a guy of huge value when Phoenix can trade for Reggie Evans and get similar rebounding with a small offensive dip at a fraction of the cost.

I just don't think Phoenix should take a step back, which they would here, as Randle is still 2-3 years away from being a real big contributor, while Bledsoe fits their playoff push needs right away, and is still improving.

Who else would offer something more than what we are? Considering he's a FA.

Don't you think they would have just signed him or attempted to?

Don't you think LAL was better off signing him initially to a Max and them keeping baby ZBO? Could have had both. Sans Lin, stretch provision Nash, and STILL could have had 15 mil in cap space to sign Hill and nick and the gang.
We'd be better off. Come to think, shit bothers me we didnt. Lol
I am a little worried about his knees tho,

I think Dwade and I think a lot if teams think that because he had his meniscus removed (dwade has gone on record to say he regrets removing it vs repairing it) which could cause a problem in the future.

qrich
07-20-2014, 05:53 AM
Who else would offer something more than what we are? Considering he's a FA.

Don't you think they would have just signed him or attempted to?

Don't you think LAL was better off signing him initially to a Max and them keeping baby ZBO? Could have had both. Sans Lin, stretch provision Nash, and STILL could have had 15 mil in cap space to sign Hill and nick and the gang.
We'd be better off. Come to think, shit bothers me we didnt. Lol
I am a little worried about his knees tho,

I think Dwade and I think a lot if teams think that because he had his meniscus removed (dwade has gone on record to say he regrets removing it vs repairing it) which could cause a problem in the future.

Who knows, but Phoenix isn't in a position to deal their starting shooting guard for a 2-3 year project, unless they are caving in on the playoff aspirations. If they can deal Bledsoe and get Eric Gordon (or Jrue Holiday) along with Ryan Anderson, it'd be better in the short term while giving the Pelicans great defense with Bleds/Davis/Asik in the starting unit, would lack offense.

Lakers would have been much better off fully pursuing Stephenson and Bledsoe before blowing the cap space on Lin/Sushi/Hill, and, considering guys like Xavier Henry, Wesley Johnson, Ed Davis and Ryan Kelly signed for so cheap, and the Boozer claim, this could have been the potential rotation given up on so soon:

Bleds - Kobe - Born Ready - Booz - Davis (don't think Hill would have remained if the offer was around or less than the MLE)
Nash - Sushi (still think he'd stay) - Wes - Kelly - Randle - Sacre

Much better than

Lin - Kobe - Wes? - Booz - Hill
Nash - Sushi - Henry - Kelly - Randle - Sacre - Davis

GimmeThat
07-20-2014, 05:59 AM
I was unaware of the fact that lottery teams make trades for none-franchise players

guess it shows the diginity of the Lakers fan nowadays

MJ(Mean John)
07-20-2014, 06:04 AM
Who knows, but Phoenix isn't in a position to deal their starting shooting guard for a 2-3 year project, unless they are caving in on the playoff aspirations. If they can deal Bledsoe and get Eric Gordon (or Jrue Holiday) along with Ryan Anderson, it'd be better in the short term while giving the Pelicans great defense with Bleds/Davis/Asik in the starting unit, would lack offense.

Lakers would have been much better off fully pursuing Stephenson and Bledsoe before blowing the cap space on Lin/Sushi/Hill, and, considering guys like Xavier Henry, Wesley Johnson, Ed Davis and Ryan Kelly signed for so cheap, and the Boozer claim, this could have been the potential rotation given up on so soon:

Bleds - Kobe - Born Ready - Booz - Davis (don't think Hill would have remained if the offer was around or less than the MLE)
Nash - Sushi (still think he'd stay) - Wes - Kelly - Randle - Sacre

Much better than

Lin - Kobe - Wes? - Booz - Hill
Nash - Sushi - Henry - Kelly - Randle - Sacre - Davis


Yeah, the idea here is that LAL didn't want any contracts longer than 1-2 years. Trying to go after the big fish again next 2 summers. (Which I don't like).

I honestly would have been happier if they (stretch Provision Nash) threw NEAR max NOT Max money at Bledsoe + Monroe. Woah baby.

Monroe/Davis
Boozer/Randle/Ryan Kelly
Wes/ Henry
KB/Young/clarkson
Bledsoe/ Kendall Marshall/clarkson


THEN I wouldn't mind the Booz pick up as much. IF KB comes back to 25/5/5 on 47% FG shooting were looking at the 6th seed. At this point, I would be alright with possibly signing Hill to a longer deal with cheaper money, just to have depth.
Then, Kobe's Deal is off the books and we can sign Durant.

Daaaamn. A nice big 3 of our own with Depth.

MJ(Mean John)
07-20-2014, 06:06 AM
I was unaware of the fact that lottery teams make trades for none-franchise players

guess it shows the diginity of the Lakers fan nowadays


Lol. WTf are you saying Dumbass.

Take a seat son. Stay seated and don't speak when Adults are talking.

CJ Mustard
07-20-2014, 06:11 AM
No way the Lakers are that stupid. This seems like a fabricated rumor.

qrich
07-20-2014, 06:15 AM
Yeah, the idea here is that LAL didn't want any contracts longer than 1-2 years. Trying to go after the big fish again next 2 summers. (Which I don't like).

I honestly would have been happier if they (stretch Provision Nash) threw NEAR max NOT Max money at Bledsoe + Monroe. Woah baby.

Monroe/Davis
Boozer/Randle/Ryan Kelly
Wes/ Henry
KB/Young/clarkson
Bledsoe/ Kendall Marshall/clarkson


THEN I wouldn't mind the Booz pick up as much. IF KB comes back to 25/5/5 on 47% FG shooting were looking at the 6th seed. At this point, I would be alright with possibly signing Hill to a longer deal with cheaper money, just to have depth.
Then, Kobe's Deal is off the books and we can sign Durant.

Daaaamn. A nice big 3 of our own with Depth.

Meh, I think if they want Monroe, I'd still try to wiggle the Lin deal in somehow and sign Stephenson

Lin-Kobe-Lance-Booz-Greg

Finger Roll
07-20-2014, 11:06 AM
What irony?

Kobe has brought 5 championships and 7 finals appearances to my favorite team. Kobe was offered the contract by the lakers.

Steve Nash has done nothing for my favorite team.

Kobe is working hard to get back to 100% and still believes he can be an all nba player like he was last time he was healthy.

While Steve Nash has admitted that he will never be close to what he was, that he's more or less done playing professional basketball and is only coming back to get paid

kobe might believe hes capable of being an all nba guy, but he wont be and at 30 million that sucks.

I'm just really glad the Raptors never landed Nash at the tail end and got stuck with a contract doing nothing.

Pretty weak trade idea for LAL.

NoGunzJustSkillz
07-20-2014, 11:25 AM
I wonder how motivated by money Nash really is. Will he attempt to play for another 1 or 2 year deal?!?!

chocolatethunder
07-20-2014, 11:33 AM
Bledsoe to LA for Randle+ JChill.

Damn. It's a rumor on LakersNation.


Not sure how I feel about that.
Like Randle and Bledsoe has knee problems
If you read the story that's being published it's just all bullshit. It basically says that it's not a real story. Just normal bullshit that people make up.