View Full Version : Why are people overhyping the Bulls? They need to rebuild
imnew09
07-20-2014, 03:29 AM
are people hyping the Bulls or is the East really that bad? This Bulls team is not going anywhere because they lack scoring and good shooters.
It would be way better if they rebuild from the bottom. As of now, farthest they could go is 2nd round exit in the playoff.
TheWINdyCity
07-20-2014, 03:36 AM
it would be impossible for the bulls to tank in the east
but you already knew this..
Cocaine80s
07-20-2014, 03:51 AM
if they tank theyd still end up the 5th seed :oldlol:
RoundMoundOfReb
07-20-2014, 04:02 AM
Playoff team in the East almost regardless of injury situation...with a healthy team all year? top 2...
keep-itreal
07-20-2014, 04:07 AM
LOL, They still haven't traded Rose away. That ni99a is Andrew Bynum status, worse is he got that $100 million contract. Stay irrelevant for another 10 years Bulls fan
Milbuck
07-20-2014, 04:11 AM
"They lack scoring and shooters" is just a tired cliche everyone spews about the Bulls because of past seasons. It couldn't be further from the trust this time, they've added a ton of offensive weapons to the roster. The Bulls have arguably the most balanced roster offensively and defensively next to San Antonio.
Rose, Gasol, Noah, Mirotic, Butler, Taj, McBuckets, Dunleavy Snell, Brooks is quite a bit offense. Especially with their bench..Brooks/Snell/McBuckets/Mirotic/Taj is an elite offensive bench with shooters at 4 positions. The only way they'd have trouble scoring is if Rose went down again..as even then they have a hell of a lot more offense than the team that just won 48 games this past season.
2nd round exit :facepalm
Barring injuries, they're contenders.
outbreak
07-20-2014, 04:19 AM
"They lack scoring and shooters" is just a tired cliche everyone spews about the Bulls because of past seasons. It couldn't be further from the trust this time, they've added a ton of offensive weapons to the roster. The Bulls have arguably the most balanced roster offensively and defensively next to San Antonio.
Rose, Gasol, Noah, Mirotic, Butler, Taj, McBuckets, Dunleavy Snell, Brooks is quite a bit offense. Especially with their bench..Brooks/Snell/McBuckets/Mirotic/Taj is an elite offensive bench with shooters at 4 positions. The only way they'd have trouble scoring is if Rose went down again..as even then they have a hell of a lot more offense than the team that just won 48 games this past season.
2nd round exit :facepalm
Barring injuries, they're contenders.
I'd wait on calling them contenders until we get to see how Mcdermott and Mirotic do in the league. If they can produce though then I think they've got a shot barring injuries.
Euroleague
07-20-2014, 07:54 AM
Because evidently some people still think Rose can run and jump without breaking his vag.
Dragic4Life
07-20-2014, 07:57 AM
Because evidently some people still think Rose can run and jump without breaking his vag.
:roll:
Bulls are regular season warriors.
stalkerforlife
07-20-2014, 07:59 AM
McBuckets.
MrC1991
07-20-2014, 08:22 AM
We're contenders for the next couple years. Bulls FO did something right for a change finally lol
qrich
07-20-2014, 08:35 AM
They just upgraded from Boozer to Gasol, added one of the best international prospects, a lights out collegiate scorer, and will, all but be, adding Derrick Rose back into the fray, and they need to rebuild?
Tell me OP, should they give Sushi 4 mil a year? Or Frye 8 mil a year?
imnew09
07-20-2014, 09:45 AM
Because evidently some people still think Rose can run and jump without breaking his vag.
:applause: couldnt have said it better
Bulls team looks good on papee, but suckerpunch when it comes to playoff
beastee
07-20-2014, 10:44 AM
Because evidently some people still think Rose can run and jump without breaking his vag.
Rose can **** up any of your lame ass euro stars. **** you and your lame opinions. I am gonna laugh when rose drops 20 and 7 this year and all you dickriders start denying the fact he is back.
Roundball_Rock
07-20-2014, 11:13 AM
"They lack scoring and shooters" is just a tired cliche everyone spews about the Bulls because of past seasons. It couldn't be further from the trust this time, they've added a ton of offensive weapons to the roster. The Bulls have arguably the most balanced roster offensively and defensively next to San Antonio.
Rose, Gasol, Noah, Mirotic, Butler, Taj, McBuckets, Dunleavy Snell, Brooks is quite a bit offense. Especially with their bench..Brooks/Snell/McBuckets/Mirotic/Taj is an elite offensive bench with shooters at 4 positions. The only way they'd have trouble scoring is if Rose went down again..as even then they have a hell of a lot more offense than the team that just won 48 games this past season.
2nd round exit :facepalm
Barring injuries, they're contenders.
This. :applause:
They just upgraded from Boozer to Gasol, added one of the best international prospects, a lights out collegiate scorer, and will, all but be, adding Derrick Rose back into the fray, and they need to rebuild?
:applause:
For the people calling the Bulls regular season wonders, when they last had Rose in the playoffs they reached the ECF only to lose to the Heatles.
GimmeThat
07-20-2014, 11:14 AM
they are going to be as good as Thib goes.
and getting him a player that expands his playbook and imagination will be critical for the Bull's long term success
Finger Roll
07-20-2014, 11:30 AM
Giving Rose one more shot.
3rd time and they are done
Legends66NBA7
07-20-2014, 11:32 AM
are people hyping the Bulls or is the East really that bad? This Bulls team is not going anywhere because they lack scoring and good shooters.
It would be way better if they rebuild from the bottom. As of now, farthest they could go is 2nd round exit in the playoff.
Buddy, they were trying to tank last year when they lost Rose again and traded Deng. They ended up with the 4th seed.
Now with a more balanced East, they didn't make any moves to suggest a rebuild is on the way.
Finger Roll
07-20-2014, 11:41 AM
Buddy, they were trying to tank last year when they lost Rose again and traded Deng. They ended up with the 4th seed.
Now with a more balanced East, they didn't make any moves to suggest a rebuild is on the way.
Exactly,
Healthy Bulls could get the top seed.
Hell, any of the top 4 or so that manage to stay completely healthy can get the 1 seed next year.
D-Rose
07-20-2014, 11:51 AM
are people hyping the Bulls or is the East really that bad? This Bulls team is not going anywhere because they lack scoring and good shooters.
It would be way better if they rebuild from the bottom. As of now, farthest they could go is 2nd round exit in the playoff.
The 4th seed in the East should rebuild? Hello, the East is wide open next year. Bulls add a ton of scoring: Gasol, Mirotic, McDermott, Brooks, and hopefully Rose. One of the top 3 coaches in the league. Best front court rotation in the league. GTFO.
imnew09
07-20-2014, 12:56 PM
The 4th seed in the East should rebuild? Hello, the East is wide open next year. Bulls add a ton of scoring: Gasol, Mirotic, McDermott, Brooks, and hopefully Rose. One of the top 3 coaches in the league. Best front court rotation in the league. GTFO.
4th seed but first round exit, HELLO?! Best front court with a scoreless Noah and washed up Gasol? Stop kidding me man :facepalm Only live they have left is on D Rose, but is he coming back as the same player before his injury?
Roundball_Rock
07-20-2014, 01:03 PM
4th seed but first round exit, HELLO?! Best front court with a scoreless Noah and washed up Gasol? Stop kidding me man :facepalm Only live they have left is on D Rose, but is he coming back as the same player before his injury?
They were in the second round the previous year with the same squad. Gasol put up 17/10 last year. He is an upgrade over Boozer. That is all we need from him. We don't need him to be prime Gasol. Noah-Gasol is the best passing big man duo in the game. Mirotic and McBuckets will add needed bench scoring, Brooks is a solid backup PG and Rose will be back. Even if Rose is 80% of himself that would be enough to have the Bulls battling at the top of the East.
Last year Chicago had the #2 defense--but the #30 offense. Adding these above players should give the Bulls a solid offense. A team with the #2 defense and, say, the #15-17 offense should be a 55+ win team.
Hotlantadude81
07-21-2014, 12:06 AM
The Bulls are as over-hyped as NY is.
MJ retired from the Bulls almost 18 years ago. It's time to stop hyping them up.
oarabbus
07-21-2014, 12:18 AM
Because evidently some people still think Rose can run and jump without breaking his vag.
:lol
poido123
07-21-2014, 12:24 AM
LOL OP.
The Bulls are one of the favorites to win the championship.
:lol
poido123
07-21-2014, 12:29 AM
"They lack scoring and shooters" is just a tired cliche everyone spews about the Bulls because of past seasons. It couldn't be further from the trust this time, they've added a ton of offensive weapons to the roster. The Bulls have arguably the most balanced roster offensively and defensively next to San Antonio.
Rose, Gasol, Noah, Mirotic, Butler, Taj, McBuckets, Dunleavy Snell, Brooks is quite a bit offense. Especially with their bench..Brooks/Snell/McBuckets/Mirotic/Taj is an elite offensive bench with shooters at 4 positions. The only way they'd have trouble scoring is if Rose went down again..as even then they have a hell of a lot more offense than the team that just won 48 games this past season.
2nd round exit :facepalm
Barring injuries, they're contenders.
Milbuck knows what's up :applause:
I regard you as an honorary Bulls fan, since you know more about our team than some of our own fans :cheers:
D-FENS
07-21-2014, 12:36 AM
Bulls are taking the East.
CT: Noah/ Gasol
PF: Gibson/ Mirotic/ Bairstow
SF: Dunleavy/ McDermott
SG: Butler/ Snell
PG: Rose/ Hinrich/ Brooks
Not sure of the line-up, but I think they settle on this. That bench is dominant
Milbuck
07-21-2014, 12:50 AM
Milbuck knows what's up :applause:
I regard you as an honorary Bulls fan, since you know more about our team than some of our own fans :cheers:
:cheers:
Born and raised in Hinsdale (suburb of Chicago) till I was 12 when I moved to Milwaukee..hate to be that bitch that roots for two teams, but I'm always hoping the Bulls do well :oldlol:
Fawker
07-21-2014, 01:02 AM
Last chance for Rose to come back.
christian1923
07-21-2014, 01:05 AM
It's crazy how people can hate a guy because he hasn't been able to stay healthy.:biggums:
Fawker
07-21-2014, 01:09 AM
It's crazy how people can hate a guy because he hasn't been able to stay healthy.:biggums:
because he eating up all the damn money
kamil
07-21-2014, 01:19 AM
"They lack scoring and shooters" is just a tired cliche everyone spews about the Bulls because of past seasons. It couldn't be further from the trust this time, they've added a ton of offensive weapons to the roster. The Bulls have arguably the most balanced roster offensively and defensively next to San Antonio.
Rose, Gasol, Noah, Mirotic, Butler, Taj, McBuckets, Dunleavy Snell, Brooks is quite a bit offense. Especially with their bench..Brooks/Snell/McBuckets/Mirotic/Taj is an elite offensive bench with shooters at 4 positions. The only way they'd have trouble scoring is if Rose went down again..as even then they have a hell of a lot more offense than the team that just won 48 games this past season.
2nd round exit :facepalm
Barring injuries, they're contenders.
I think they're only possibly contenders as a top Eastern team. IMO, there's no chance in hell are they contenders to take it all, they're not getting past a Western team.
Rameek
07-21-2014, 01:38 AM
It's hard to have confidence when Rose and Noah have a terrible injury history. Outside of that with some of the additions they made they should be top 3 if healthy.
christian1923
07-21-2014, 01:40 AM
because he eating up all the damn money
Still not his fault.
poido123
07-21-2014, 01:43 AM
I think they're only possibly contenders as a top Eastern team. IMO, there's no chance in hell are they contenders to take it all, they're not getting past a Western team.
I disagree.
I think they should beat any west team, but have problems with the spurs.
SamuraiSWISH
07-21-2014, 01:54 AM
We have no idea how well rookies Mirotic, McDermott, and 35 year old Gasol will play next year, or fit into the current system. Aaron Brooks hasn't been anything special in recent years, and it was foolish to let go DJ Augustine.
Still don't know what Derrick Rose will be like out there, if at all. Thibs will squeeze the most juice out of them as possible, but we'll still have a ceiling during the playoffs. We don't have the proven scoring necessary to really be a contender. It's not saying much right now that we will be in the upper echelon of the eastern conference.
Couldn't even beat the Bullets last year, but people want to hype this team up based off some slight, yet unproven new talent, and an ancient Pau Gasol? Give me a break.
Chicago Bull fandom is filled to the brim with lovable, yet overly prideful hypebeasts. We don't have great talent on this team. It's a bunch of hard workers, a soon to be 35 year old Gasol, and Derrick Rose who has missed the past two seasons. They're not ... that ... frightening in reality.
poido123
07-21-2014, 02:05 AM
We have no idea how well rookies Mirotic, McDermott, and 35 year old Gasol will play next year, or fit into the current system. Aaron Brooks hasn't been anything special in recent years, and it was foolish to let go DJ Augustine.
Still don't know what Derrick Rose will be like out there, if at all. Thibs will squeeze the most juice out of them as possible, but we'll still have a ceiling during the playoffs. We don't have the proven scoring necessary to really be a contender. It's not saying much right now that we will be in the upper echelon of the eastern conference.
Couldn't even beat the Bullets last year, but people want to hype this team up based off some slight, yet unproven new talent, and an ancient Pau Gasol? Give me a break.
Chicago Bull fandom is filled to the brim with lovable, yet overly prideful hypebeasts. We don't have great talent on this team. It's a bunch of hard workers, a soon to be 35 year old Gasol, and Derrick Rose who has missed the past two seasons. They're not ... that ... frightening in reality.
Read milbucks post swish and then give yourself an uppercut to wake up.
Of course a lot depends on injuries, but we are analyzing a bulls team based on being healthy.
We have shooters, we have elite passing bigmen, we have a deep front line, we have specialist defenders as key positions, we have a good mix of experience and youth and of course an awesome coach who will vaslty improve the defense of the newcomers.
The management got it right this time. They drafted scorers, got a scoring post big man, drafted and signed elite shooters. All areas we needed help with.
While we lack players who can break guys off the dribble, we have excellent passers in our starting unit to overcome that. A bit like the spurs model and how most of the lane penetration comes from parker, then a spread of shooters and good passers to break down defenses.
Can any of the new blood create for themselves?
poido123
07-21-2014, 02:15 AM
Can any of the new blood create for themselves?
Dougie and bairstow can. Both scorers out of college with an array of posts moves.
Doug is also an excellent off the ball offensive player. He gets to spaces to find a shot much like ray ray.
SamuraiSWISH
07-21-2014, 02:20 AM
Read milbucks post swish and then give yourself an uppercut to wake up/
Don't take my objectivity for cynicsm. I'm speaking to the reality of the situation. We'll be competitive. Good even. At this point we can't comment because we don't know how healthy Rose is, how young Gasol will look, or how the rookies will be against actual NBA comp. Not summer league, not euroball.
Slap yourself for drinking the koolaid too early. We have depth, defense, hustle dorks, size, and a coach who treats mid January games like it's game 7 in June. He'll squeeze the juice out of us in the regular season, but he doesn't know how to slowly ramp it up for more elite levels of basketball.
We'll have a good, possibly great regular season. Our performance in the playoffs annually reveals our actual quality, and our true weaknesses. In this conference it won't matter much. You're a fool if you think we are confidently better than any of the following: Portland, Houston, Dallas, OKC, Golden State, or San Antonio.
Don't be a Luvabull dancer, be honest with yourself about this team. Not many Bulls fans are capable of that sadly. I'm not one of them. We have plenty of flaws, and question marks.
Milbuck
07-21-2014, 02:32 AM
We have no idea how well rookies Mirotic, McDermott, and 35 year old Gasol will play next year, or fit into the current system. Aaron Brooks hasn't been anything special in recent years, and it was foolish to let go DJ Augustine.
Still don't know what Derrick Rose will be like out there, if at all. Thibs will squeeze the most juice out of them as possible, but we'll still have a ceiling during the playoffs. We don't have the proven scoring necessary to really be a contender. It's not saying much right now that we will be in the upper echelon of the eastern conference.
Couldn't even beat the Bullets last year, but people want to hype this team up based off some slight, yet unproven new talent, and an ancient Pau Gasol? Give me a break.
Chicago Bull fandom is filled to the brim with lovable, yet overly prideful hypebeasts. We don't have great talent on this team. It's a bunch of hard workers, a soon to be 35 year old Gasol, and Derrick Rose who has missed the past two seasons. They're not ... that ... frightening in reality.
Dude..I understand you're trying to temper expectations, as any rational fan of a team normally should, but this time there's a genuine reason to be excited for the Bulls. Of course there's a bunch of question marks, there always is when you make big changes. But that's exactly what they are...big changes.
Say what you will about Pau Gasol, he's still one of the most effective big men in the game. As much as his athleticism has faded..his post moves, his ability to stretch the floor as a 4 or 5, his elite passing ability for his position, his leadership, etc are all still there. The Bulls finally have a reliable scoring option in the post - pretty much what Boozer was supposed to be but never lived up to. Defensively he's not elite by any stretch, but he blocked more shots last year than Boozer did in his entire tenure with the Bulls, and he gives you size in the frontline that Chicago has lacked since losing Asik. Gasol put up 17/10/3/2/1 last season..if just 85% of that game can translate to a 25-30mpg role with the Bulls, it'll be huge.
Then you have Mirotic, Snell, and McBuckets..none of these guys (most likely) are going to start, and it's not like they have to be all-stars next year. But watching SL, Snell looks like a completely different player. SL doesn't mean much in terms of the way players actually produce..but it does give you a decent indication of how players have improved, their strengths, their weaknesses, etc. Last year he looked like a fringe NBA player with absolutely zero confidence. Now he looks damn near overconfident...he's a sniper from range, his handles are tighter, he looks stronger, and again, he's got confidence you just didn't see last year. McBuckets looks terrific as well. It's not like he's a 'project' rookie coming off a 1 and done season..he's as close to NBA-ready as you can get for his style of play, and it's showing. Mirotic is the biggest unknown. But going against Noah and Taj in practice, being coached by Thibs, and especially being mentored by Gasol, he's in just about the perfect situation for his transition to the NBA. And it's not like he's starting..with the FC depth he's probably not even gonna crack 20-24mpg unless someone goes down.
Then you have Rose..we can debate all day about how well he's gonna return..but according to all reports he's as quick/explosive as he ever was. It's gonna take time for him to shake off the rust and get used to NBA game speed..but it's more plausible than not to expect him to return to all star level if not 100% of who he was. And even if he returns to only 75-80% of his MVP form..that's still a great player capable of leading you through the East.
I'll say it again..this is the most balanced two-way roster the Bulls have had in the Rose/Noah/Thibs and since the Jordan era. No one is already celebrating and nothing is certain right now, but there's definitely cause for some excitement. The front office has done a hell of a job since missing out on Melo.
a coach who treats mid January games like it's game 7 in June. He'll squeeze the juice out of us in the regular season, but he doesn't know how to slowly ramp it up for more elite levels of basketball.
Well it's not like he's had that much depth the past couple years. Aside from Deng and now Butler, especially with this roster, he's not drive anyone into the ground. The front office has just recently stated that minutes management and maintaining health for the postseason is one of their biggest priorities for the season, and a big driving force of how they assembled the team and dealt with free agency.
You're a fool if you think we are confidently better than any of the following: Portland, Houston, Dallas, OKC, Golden State, or San Antonio.
Come on now..now you're being pessimistic. San Antonio and OKC I get. But Portland, Houston, Dallas, and Golden State? Really? There is nothing wrong with thinking that the Bulls as presently constructed can be better than them.
poido123
07-21-2014, 02:36 AM
Don't take my objectivity for cynicsm. I'm speaking to the reality of the situation. We'll be competitive. Good even. At this point we can't comment because we don't know how healthy Rose is, how young Gasol will look, or how the rookies will be against actual NBA comp. Not summer league, not euroball.
Slap yourself for drinking the koolaid too early. We have depth, defense, hustle dorks, size, and a coach who treats mid January games like it's game 7 in June. He'll squeeze the juice out of us in the regular season, but he doesn't know how to slowly ramp it up for more elite levels of basketball.
We'll have a good, possibly great regular season. Our performance in the playoffs annually reveals our actual quality, and our true weaknesses. In this conference it won't matter much. You're a fool if you think we are confidently better than any of the following: Portland, Houston, Dallas, OKC, Golden State, or San Antonio.
Don't be a Luvabull dancer, be honest with yourself about this team. Not many Bulls fans are capable of that sadly. I'm not one of them. We have plenty of flaws, and question marks.
Our team pre-rose injuries had glaring weaknesses and looked handcuffed around rose and what he creates.
This current team has more variety. More elite passers, more elite shooters, and guys who can post up and get points.
We no longer have to rely on Deng and his one dimensional straight line drives, or boozer going soft and throwing up moon ball fadeaways. We dont have keith brick bogans as a scoring blackhole in our starting lineup, we now have an elite sf defender(butler) who will be crucial against direct rivals like spurs and cavs.
I outlined that we have a lack of players who can break guys off the dribble, but everywhere else is solid to overcome this weakness.
imnew09
07-21-2014, 03:47 AM
I disagree.
I think they should beat any west team, but have problems with the spurs.
LOL are you kidding me? No way this Bulls team can get past OKC, Clippers, Spurs like you said, Dallas, Warriors, Lakers(i'm bias)
poido123
07-21-2014, 03:59 AM
LOL are you kidding me? No way this Bulls team can get past OKC, Clippers, Spurs like you said, Dallas, Warriors, Lakers(i'm bias)
I'll give you okc, they can cause some problems too. Warriors would be tough, but I think we'd still win.
Those other teams have glaring weaknesses we can exploit though.
Lakers and houston lol
PP34Deuce
07-21-2014, 09:11 AM
The Bulls have pieces tat are still young.
Noah is only 28. His game will translate as he nears early 30's
Rose is still only 25 and I believe he will adjust his game as he gets older.
Butler is 23-24 andif he gets a consistent jump shot, you have a 17-18 ppg 6 and 3 player with very good defense.
Snell is a wildcard and he could potentially be that SG they have been needing.
In the front court depth you have Gibson. You have Nazi that still can play in 5 min stretches.
Brickz187
07-21-2014, 09:52 AM
People are counting Derrick Rose out. With Rose, the Bulls might be the best team in the East. Without, they are top 5. Why would they need to rebuild? They just have to keep Rose healthy.
GimmeThat
07-21-2014, 10:17 AM
the difference between the 09-10 Mavs and the 10-11 Mavs
was Tyson Chandler
alexd
07-21-2014, 11:56 AM
Don t expect too much from mirotic.he s softer than a tissue
hawksdogsbraves
07-21-2014, 12:09 PM
People are counting Derrick Rose out. With Rose, the Bulls might be the best team in the East. Without, they are top 5. Why would they need to rebuild? They just have to keep Rose healthy.
Easier said than done, there's no telling when that mental midget will decide he has another 'muscle memory' issue and sit out for 6 months.
We have no idea how well rookies Mirotic, McDermott, and 35 year old Gasol will play next year, or fit into the current system. Aaron Brooks hasn't been anything special in recent years, and it was foolish to let go DJ Augustine.
Still don't know what Derrick Rose will be like out there, if at all. Thibs will squeeze the most juice out of them as possible, but we'll still have a ceiling during the playoffs. We don't have the proven scoring necessary to really be a contender. It's not saying much right now that we will be in the upper echelon of the eastern conference.
Couldn't even beat the Bullets last year, but people want to hype this team up based off some slight, yet unproven new talent, and an ancient Pau Gasol? Give me a break.
Chicago Bull fandom is filled to the brim with lovable, yet overly prideful hypebeasts. We don't have great talent on this team. It's a bunch of hard workers, a soon to be 35 year old Gasol, and Derrick Rose who has missed the past two seasons. They're not ... that ... frightening in reality.
Augustin*
I'd rather have Hinrich and Brooks. Augustin and Brooks have similar games and neither can defend. Hinrich can defend and play the 2 - alongside Rose, or Brooks.
Health will remain the number 1 priority. Getting this team healthy into the Playoffs is really all I care about. Let guys like McDermott, Mirotic, and Snell get some run so they'll be tested and ready for a Playoff run. Chicago's size will give teams fits, and hopefully the shooting of McDermott, Dunleavy, Mirotic, Snell, Hinrich and Rose can hurt teams as well.
Dr.J4ever
07-21-2014, 12:40 PM
We have no idea how well rookies Mirotic, McDermott, and 35 year old Gasol will play next year, or fit into the current system. Aaron Brooks hasn't been anything special in recent years, and it was foolish to let go DJ Augustine.
Still don't know what Derrick Rose will be like out there, if at all. Thibs will squeeze the most juice out of them as possible, but we'll still have a ceiling during the playoffs. We don't have the proven scoring necessary to really be a contender. It's not saying much right now that we will be in the upper echelon of the eastern conference.
Couldn't even beat the Bullets last year, but people want to hype this team up based off some slight, yet unproven new talent, and an ancient Pau Gasol? Give me a break.
Chicago Bull fandom is filled to the brim with lovable, yet overly prideful hypebeasts. We don't have great talent on this team. It's a bunch of hard workers, a soon to be 35 year old Gasol, and Derrick Rose who has missed the past two seasons. They're not ... that ... frightening in reality.
This..Nice reality check there for the kool aid drinkers.
My other question is this: how good of an offensive coach is Thibs really? To me, he coaches a lot like a Larry Brown when he was with the Sixers. He never trusted any of his so called "offensive players" and developed them in his system. Larry played favorites, and his favorites were veteran players who were known as defensive players like George Lynch, Eric Snow, Aaron Mckie who could score a little, but were mostly known for being tough defenders.
I can see a scenario where Pau or Mirotic or Dougie won't be playing in the 4th quarter, and the Bulls would have the same lineup as last year in the end game, except for Rose.
So at the end of the day, it all hinges on Rose being the Rose of old.
beastee
07-21-2014, 12:49 PM
Aaron Brooks hasn't been anything special in recent years, and it was foolish to let go DJ Augustine.
Chicago Bull fandom is filled to the brim with lovable, yet overly prideful hypebeasts. We don't have great talent on this team.
So you did just that with DJ. Would you have said they shouldnt have let Watson, then Nate Robinson, and now DJ go? We pick up middling BU PGs and make them fit Thib's system. Aaron Brooks will be no different. This roster is setting up to be very deep and has 2 legit all stars and a top 10 talent. He WILL be healthy this year.
Dr.J4ever
07-21-2014, 01:02 PM
So you did just that with DJ. Would you have said they shouldnt have let Watson, then Nate Robinson, and now DJ go? We pick up middling BU PGs and make them fit Thib's system. Aaron Brooks will be no different. This roster is setting up to be very deep and has 2 legit all stars and a top 10 talent. He WILL be healthy this year.
You have 2 shakey all stars, and you don't know what you have in Mcbuckets. He could end up to be a Kyle Korver type, for all we know.
It will take time to see how they jell together.
You have 2 shakey all stars, and you don't know what you have in Mcbuckets. He could end up to be a Kyle Korver type, for all we know.
It will take time to see how they jell together.
You realize Kyle Korver just led the league in 3PT% right? And was second the season before, even though he hit like 60 more 3s that the first place Calderon. Easily one of the best shooters in the league.
McDermott is coming out of college as a more versatile scorer than Korver ever has been too.
imnew09
07-21-2014, 05:30 PM
So you did just that with DJ. Would you have said they shouldnt have let Watson, then Nate Robinson, and now DJ go? We pick up middling BU PGs and make them fit Thib's system. Aaron Brooks will be no different. This roster is setting up to be very deep and has 2 legit all stars and a top 10 talent. He WILL be healthy this year.
Dj and Aaron brooks lol
Two of em added up is not even 6 ft yet
nathanjizzle
07-21-2014, 06:51 PM
cant wait to quote samuraibitch and bump this thread. what an idiot.
Dengness9
07-21-2014, 08:08 PM
You have 2 shakey all stars, and you don't know what you have in Mcbuckets. He could end up to be a Kyle Korver type, for all we know.
It will take time to see how they jell together.
Why is Noah shakey? He's had his plantar issues w/ his feet but last year he CARRIED the team after the loss of Rose and Deng.
Noah was wearing a French brand shoe(he's suing them) and has since made the switch to Adidas(last season) and didnt have feet problems last season.
Mcbuckets ending up as a Kyle Korver is a bad thing? I know the Bulls org views him as a better all around scorer but Korver is one of the greatest 3pt shooters of all time, there are worse things to amount to in the NBA.
Definitely going to take time to gel but I see a team full of high IQ team first players that want to be coached and want to win.
Dengness9
07-21-2014, 08:10 PM
This..Nice reality check there for the kool aid drinkers.
My other question is this: how good of an offensive coach is Thibs really? To me, he coaches a lot like a Larry Brown when he was with the Sixers. He never trusted any of his so called "offensive players" and developed them in his system. Larry played favorites, and his favorites were veteran players who were known as defensive players like George Lynch, Eric Snow, Aaron Mckie who could score a little, but were mostly known for being tough defenders.
I can see a scenario where Pau or Mirotic or Dougie won't be playing in the 4th quarter, and the Bulls would have the same lineup as last year in the end game, except for Rose.
So at the end of the day, it all hinges on Rose being the Rose of old.
Thibs can be a pretty good offensive coach. in 2010-11 and 2011-12, the Bulls were not bad offensively. Needed more shooting and creating but when you have Rose on the court, everything changes.
The Bulls have armed the roster w/ shooters in Snell, Dunleavy, McDermott, and Mirotic. Pau has a good midrange.
Derrick's health and Jimmy Butler playing less minutes and saving some energy to shoot and score will help too.
We'll see if it happens or not.
Roundball_Rock
07-21-2014, 08:27 PM
Why is Noah shakey? He's had his plantar issues w/ his feet but last year he CARRIED the team after the loss of Rose and Deng.
Noah was wearing a French brand shoe(he's suing them) and has since made the switch to Adidas(last season) and didnt have feet problems last season.
Mcbuckets ending up as a Kyle Korver is a bad thing? I know the Bulls org views him as a better all around scorer but Korver is one of the greatest 3pt shooters of all time, there are worse things to amount to in the NBA.
Definitely going to take time to gel but I see a team full of high IQ team first players that want to be coached and want to win.
:applause:
Rose got hurt seriously in April 2012 and then again last year. That does not mean he will get hurt every year forevermore.
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