Greatest/Favourite Guitarists?

[Nowitness]

If anyone mentions Bob Dylan for the former I will shoot myself.

[russwest0]

Billy Corgan is my favorite. He is underrated as hell as a guitarist and musician. In all of Smashing Pumpkins albums he recorded every instrument and did everything but the drums.

The solo at 4:20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RumHTFUV7bA#t=260

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[JohnFreeman]

Gilmour

[Nowitness]

Gilmour

:notworthy:

He gets so overlooked because he was also a producer and songwriter (well, and Floyd are primarily known for having many layers) but the dude is insanely good as a lead.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Tito Larriva

[dr.hee]

Stevie Ray Vaughan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX5ioDq1m5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffcQwYGk3Kg

Mike Landau:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHR-rCb9HU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V72RC9_VU28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_s4_FMTUmo

John Scofield:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRTJLIKvvH8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xofscPY3E48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5By6Xokphk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yxy8BMibOU

Scott Henderson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlGq-qsjyvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk3MYFMZiWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHb2UGIYzPM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh40r6OdEKg

Tommy Emmanuel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-UQ8H43QDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaV0SOINI60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zek1vROh08Q

Joe Pass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0oEWuc_Ng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxU0TzdMbM

Ted Greene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5016romA3U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJSABbXwKxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDuee6blvj8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZENkj7C7Bw

Greg Howe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjbw_Y0Omgs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzCIbh3rHks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVvn3cgPmmE

Guthrie Govan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0QizlG7Rs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T02w4PiEGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwWc_Wyl5HA

John Mayer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkAjv52asFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-hnGwdBwWE

[Nowitness]

Zappa, Frusciante and Homme are my favorites (with Zappa to me being next to Hendrix as one of the greats).

[outbreak]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NSJw-68KXhM

brian setzer is my favorite.

[DukeDelonte13]

al di meola needs to be mentioned.

[Thorpesaurous]

Gilmour


One of the best ways I came to realize just how good Gilmore is was seeing Roger Water's do The Wall show four years or so ago. Because he uses a various guests to do the massive solo mid-show.


I'm an embarrassingly big fan of John Mayer. And coming out of a Stevie Ray Vaughn fandom, really like a lot of the little disciples, like Johnny Lang and Kenny Wayne Shephard.


I'd also throw Mark Knopfler out there. And recently have been really into Warren Haynes' stuff.

[boozehound]

my favorites are

Duane Allman
Bill Frisell

Obviously there are lots of others I like, but those two are my favorites.

[NumberSix]

Guitar fanboys can be so frustrating to deal with sometimes. The type of guys who will tell you with a straight face that they love listening to Alan Holdsworth and Buckethead albums all day. Yes, that is just what I am in the mood for. Guys who play shitty music but play it really well with amazing technical ability. To me, they're like the Michael Bay of music. Like, sure. His movies look great, are shot well and having amazing special effects...... But there's no story, the acting is bad and there is nothing remotely interesting. A perfectly painted image of a turd.

Anytime you talk about guitar players you like, there's always 1 or 2 douchebags who will start debating what's better? The new Joe Satriani or Steve Vai album. The actual answer of course is, both albums suck.

[BlazerRed]

Tom Delonge. Most skilled guitarist ever.

Gilmour and Mark Kozelek are two of my favorites. I enjoy Mayer too as someone else mentioned. There's so many though.

[Nowitness]

Guitar fanboys can be so frustrating to deal with sometimes. The type of guys who will tell you with a straight face that they love listening to Alan Holdsworth and Buckethead albums all day. Yes, that is just what I am in the mood for. Guys who play shitty music but play it really well with amazing technical ability. To me, they're like the Michael Bay of music. Like, sure. His movies look great, are shot well and having amazing special effects...... But there's no story, the acting is bad and there is nothing remotely interesting. A perfectly painted image of a turd.

Anytime you talk about guitar players you like, there's always 1 or 2 douchebags who will start debating what's better? The new Joe Satriani or Steve Vai album. The actual answer of course is, both albums suck.

I like the comparison.

[FatComputerNerd]

Mississippi John Hurt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEjyBLm9--4

HM for Buckethead. He's even done tribute songs to LBJ, along with a few other NBA players.

Buckethead- King James (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_iFxfCh2B8)
Buckethead - Lebron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78WgTsUv3Vg)
Buckethead - Lebron's Hammer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bW1qu_6Fg)
Buckethead - Lebrontron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqwJNEwhUVE)
Buckethead - Crack The Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHMbUR-0m2k) (dedicated to Blake Griffin)

Not even his best songs, but NBA-related so... =\

[Duggrr]

Frusciante, Billy Corgan, Tony Iommi, Hendrix

However, my all time favorite is J. Mascis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy9IP5Y4JrM

[Nowitness]

Frusciante, Billy Corgan, Tony Iommi, Hendrix

However, my all time favorite is J. Mascis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy9IP5Y4JrM

Just listened to Paranoid for like the 100th time. Iommi was so revolutionary for the time (and skilled for someone missing finger-tips), every hard band after owe something to him and Sabbath.

[dr.hee]

Guitar fanboys can be so frustrating to deal with sometimes. The type of guys who will tell you with a straight face that they love listening to Alan Holdsworth and Buckethead albums all day. Yes, that is just what I am in the mood for. Guys who play shitty music but play it really well with amazing technical ability. To me, they're like the Michael Bay of music. Like, sure. His movies look great, are shot well and having amazing special effects...... But there's no story, the acting is bad and there is nothing remotely interesting. A perfectly painted image of a turd.

Anytime you talk about guitar players you like, there's always 1 or 2 douchebags who will start debating what's better? The new Joe Satriani or Steve Vai album. The actual answer of course is, both albums suck.

I get your point, but the way you've explained it is really sub par imo. The comparison with Michael Bay movies is just as far off as it could possibly be, especially since you've mentioned Holdsworth. Whether you like his music is up to your personal taste, but to compare one of the most harmonically sophisticated fusion guitarists to easy to digest action movies and minor pentatonic/dorian mode shredders like Satriani/Vai makes me doubt you actually know what you're talking about. You could've used Vai rocking his wind machine while tapping minor scales as an example for Hollywood action movie like musical concepts, but Holdsworth of all people? Even if you hate his music (which I could absolutely understand), just the fact you're using him in an argument featuring Michael Bay, Satriani, Vai and Buckethead is ridiculous. Conceptually he's above any of that, not matter if you like him or not. If you can't see the difference, you simply lack musical education, sorry. And I don't even listen to a lot of his stuff, but I can appreciate his skills.


Again, I see your point and agree with it. But can't you voice your opinion in an at least semi-intelligent way?

[Patrick Chewing]

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users12/erased/default/dimebag-darrell--large-msg-115464030496.jpg

[andgar923]

Guitar fanboys can be so frustrating to deal with sometimes. The type of guys who will tell you with a straight face that they love listening to Alan Holdsworth and Buckethead albums all day. Yes, that is just what I am in the mood for. Guys who play shitty music but play it really well with amazing technical ability. To me, they're like the Michael Bay of music. Like, sure. His movies look great, are shot well and having amazing special effects...... But there's no story, the acting is bad and there is nothing remotely interesting. A perfectly painted image of a turd.

Anytime you talk about guitar players you like, there's always 1 or 2 douchebags who will start debating what's better? The new Joe Satriani or Steve Vai album. The actual answer of course is, both albums suck.

WTF? I agree with your basic argument.

I can't listen to some of the guys that are usually mentioned (at least not their original music). Yeah, they may be technically proficient and years better than somebody like Page. But give me a Zeppelin song any day.

[andgar923]

oh yeah....

+1 for Gilmour

He's just smooth.

[NumberSix]

I get your point, but the way you've explained it is really sub par imo. The comparison with Michael Bay movies is just as far off as it could possibly be, especially since you've mentioned Holdsworth. Whether you like his music is up to your personal taste, but to compare one of the most harmonically sophisticated fusion guitarists to easy to digest action movies and minor pentatonic/dorian mode shredders like Satriani/Vai makes me doubt you actually know what you're talking about. You could've used Vai rocking his wind machine while tapping minor scales as an example for Hollywood action movie like musical concepts, but Holdsworth of all people? Even if you hate his music (which I could absolutely understand), just the fact you're using him in an argument featuring Michael Bay, Satriani, Vai and Buckethead is ridiculous. Conceptually he's above any of that, not matter if you like him or not. If you can't see the difference, you simply lack musical education, sorry. And I don't even listen to a lot of his stuff, but I can appreciate his skills.


Again, I see your point and agree with it. But can't you voice your opinion in an at least semi-intelligent way?
I can safely say that I don't.

Maybe you're just missing the point. It is a simple matter of material and execution. Bad music played well. Bad movie filmed/directed well.

[dr.hee]

I can safely say that I don't.

Maybe you're just missing the point. It is a simple matter of material and execution. Bad music played well. Bad movie filmed/directed well.

Then I don't get your comparative categories. Good/bad are entirely based on subjective interpretation. You should rather have used conceptually simple/well executed as your point of reference, where Michael Bay popcorn action flicks vs. Satriani/Vai modal legato shred would've been a valid comparison I would've agreed with. Good/bad is simply too subjective as a valid category imo. I mean you could add "...which I don't enjoy listening to" as a qualifier to any comparison you've made. Regarding Holdsworth, it would be something like "conceptually sophisticated/well executed/hate it". But to simply compare him to a simplistic director and simplistic shred only based on you not enjoying his music doesn't make any sense to me.

Especially if you are musically educated. In that case you could've done better.

[NumberSix]

Then I don't get your comparative categories. Good/bad are entirely based on subjective interpretation. You should rather have used conceptually simple/well executed as your point of reference, where Michael Bay popcorn action flicks vs. Satriani/Vai modal legato shred would've been a valid comparison I would've agreed with. Good/bad is simply too subjective as a valid category imo. I mean you could add "...which I don't enjoy listening to" as a qualifier to any comparison you've made. Regarding Holdsworth, it would be something like "conceptually sophisticated/well executed/hate it". But to simply compare him to a simplistic director and simplistic shred only based on you not enjoying his music doesn't make any sense to me.

Especially if you are musically educated. In that case you could've done better.
Simple is often great. My point has nothing to do with "simplicity". Simplicity isn't why Michael Bay movies suck. It's just bad material.

[dr.hee]

Simple is often great. My point has nothing to do with "simplicity". Simplicity isn't why Michael Bay movies suck. It's just bad material.

Yeah, have to agree to disagree then. The evaluation of material is entirely subjective, not intrinsically good/bad imo.

[NumberSix]

Yeah, have to agree to disagree then. The evaluation of material is entirely subjective, not intrinsically good/bad imo.
You seem to be overly focused on the example and not the point. Your focusing on the wrong part.

You don't like the example? Fair enough, but if it got the point across, it was a successful example IMO.

[dr.hee]

You seem to be overly focused on the example and not the point. Your focusing on the wrong part.

You don't like the example? Fair enough, but if it got the point across, it was a successful example IMO.

If your point was that there is intrinsically good/bad material, then it's completely wrong imo.

[Nick Young]

Peter Green #1
http://www.thebluepearls.com/images/green/3-02.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxgY9eEFiYM

[NumberSix]

Yeah, have to agree to disagree then. The evaluation of material is entirely subjective, not intrinsically good/bad imo.
Obviously not. Scales exist because obviously using certain notes in certain ways does objectively sound better than just doing anything. Sound is not purely subjective. The human brain clearly does like a Phrygian scale more than a chromatic scale. I think I can objectify say "Paddy Fahy's jig" is better than "blurred lines"

[dr.hee]

Obviously not. Scales exist because obviously using certain notes in certain ways does objectively sound better than just doing anything. Sound is not purely subjective. The human brain clearly does like a Phrygian scale more than a chromatic scale. I think I can objectify say "Paddy Fahy's jig" is better than "blurred lines"

Yeah, but your examples for "material" were entire movies and songs. Now you're using scales as an example. Not impressed. You can't generalize like that on the level of entire songs. What is your point? Arguing for argument's sake? Besides, just an example...I prefer lydian dominant to mixolydian over dominant chords. Me, personally. Can't speak for all of mankind.

[Heavincent]

Marty Friedman
Dimebag Darrell
Kirk Hammett
Brent Hinds
John Petrucci
James Hetfield
David Gilmour

[NumberSix]

Yeah, but your examples for "material" were entire movies and songs. Now you're using scales as an example. Not impressed. You can't generalize like that on the level of entire songs. What is your point? Arguing for argument's sake?
It's not my intention to impress you.

You say "you used songs and movies now you're using scales" as if that is some kind of a contradiction. Be smarter. Group of examples A was a comparison of music and films. Group of example B was an explanation of how within music, it's entirely possible for 1 thing to be inherently better than another.

I mean, I'm not going to bother talking to you if every little think is going to have to be painstakingly explained. You should be able to grasp basic concepts on your own without needing your hand held to cross a street (oh no, more examples of things analogous to other things).

[Overdrive]

Still these:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9334405&postcount=60

Forgot Gilmour back then as a HM, but I don't like to single him out. Pink Floyd was the perfect band imo.

[Overdrive]

It's not my intention to impress you.

You say "you used songs and movies now you're using scales" as if that is some kind of a contradiction. Be smarter. Group of examples A was a comparison of music and films. Group of example B was an explanation of how within music, it's entirely possible for 1 thing to be inherently better than another.

I mean, I'm not going to bother talking to you if every little think is going to have to be painstakingly explained. You should be able to grasp basic concepts on your own without needing your hand held to cross a street (oh no, more examples of things analogous to other things).

I don't get why you argue. I got your point and I think it's completely understandable. That Vai isn't Holdsworth is obvious. Maybe the Bay comparison was wrong in his case.

Maybe you should've used Bay for Vai and some french film noir with hungarian subtitles for Holdsworth.

[dr.hee]

It's not my intention to impress you.

You say "you used songs and movies now you're using scales" as if that is some kind of a contradiction. Be smarter. Group of examples A was a comparison of music and films. Group of example B was an explanation of how within music, it's entirely possible for 1 thing to be inherently better than another.

I mean, I'm not going to bother talking to you if every little think is going to have to be painstakingly explained. You should be able to grasp basic concepts on your own without needing your hand held to cross a street (oh no, more examples of things analogous to other things).

Nope, it's entirely possible for 1 thing to be evaluated more positive on average by listeners. That's something entirely different than postulating intrinsical value.

And even if this would be valid on a very basic level such as scales...how are you generalizing it to more complex situations like songs?

Also, your example of phrygian vs. chromatic is pretty useless since you're completely ignoring different contextual factors. When to use it, how to use it etc...another reason why I'm doubting you've got any meaningful musical education. Could've been an interesting discussion, but I don't get why you're resorting to such pederstrian arguments. You aren't stupid, that's why I don't get this low level of thought you're exhibiting in this thread.

[dr.hee]

I don't get why you argue. I got your point and I think it's completely understandable. That Vai isn't Holdsworth is obvious. Maybe the Bay comparison was wrong in his case.

Maybe you should've used Bay for Vai and some french film noir with hungarian subtitles for Holdsworth.

Yeah, that sounds reasonable. But his argument was basically "Holdsworth is bad because he's bad."

Just a horribly flawed argument imo. And I don't even like to listen to Holdsworth. In the end, all he says is "I don't like certain kinds of music"...which is fine, but it's ridiculous to act like it's anything more than subjective taste.

[Overdrive]

Yeah, that sounds reasonable. But his argument was basically "Holdsworth is bad because he's bad."

Just a horribly flawed argument imo. And I don't even like to listen to Holdsworth. In the end, all he says is "I don't like certain kinds of music"...which is fine, but it's ridiculous to act like it's anything more than subjective taste.

Don't know. Most people I learned to know who listened to him did it more out of musical snobbery than actually enjoying it and when it came to letting go they'd listen to GNR or similar stuff(mostly drunk and/or high but still..).

[dr.hee]

Don't know. Most people I learned to know who listened to him did it more out of musical snobbery than actually enjoying it and when it came to letting go they'd listen to GNR or similar stuff(mostly drunk and/or high but still..).

Yeah, I know. Some of them are just wannabe elitist snobs. But there are also people who get emotionally touched by far out-there fusion solos just the same way others like Beatles songs or stuff like that. At least for me, it's entirely subjective, I love all kinds of music and absolutely hate virtually identical stuff, too.

[NumberSix]

Yeah, that sounds reasonable. But his argument was basically "Holdsworth is bad because he's bad."

Just a horribly flawed argument imo. And I don't even like to listen to Holdsworth. In the end, all he says is "I don't like certain kinds of music"...which is fine, but it's ridiculous to act like it's anything more than subjective taste.
It's not about kinds of music. I don't know why you're playing dumb and being purposely evasive. It often happens that on the same album, there are good songs and bad songs. Same kind of music, same artist.

I don't get this whole "everything is subjective" nonsense. Something's are a matter of "taste" but if you want to be literally, taste isn't even a matter of "taste" as we mean it in the figurative sense. It would suggest that we are all working with the same equipment, which we aren't.

Before even getting sucked back into this, I'll just ask you 1 question..........

If you understood the point, why are you complaining about the examples? You get that an analogy isn't meant to be 100% literal don't you? It's like I'm telling you that you look like a million bucks and you're arguing back that humans can't look like amounts of money.

[boozehound]

Still these:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9334405&postcount=60

Forgot Gilmour back then as a HM, but I don't like to single him out. Pink Floyd was the perfect band imo.
This was a pretty interesting thread.